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In defence of presentism | Abbie Casson | TEDxTauntonSchool


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three weeks ago my class was asked by a

three weeks ago my class was asked by a teacher what is morality I was taken

teacher what is morality I was taken

teacher what is morality I was taken aback and we haven’t not deeply

aback and we haven’t not deeply

aback and we haven’t not deeply considered this question before replied

considered this question before replied

considered this question before replied personal principles deciding the

personal principles deciding the

personal principles deciding the difference between right and wrong the

difference between right and wrong the

difference between right and wrong the response we got was a slow nod and

response we got was a slow nod and

response we got was a slow nod and pensive look presentism is the practice

pensive look presentism is the practice

pensive look presentism is the practice of applying modern-day morality to the

of applying modern-day morality to the

of applying modern-day morality to the past and that phrase modern-day morality

past and that phrase modern-day morality

past and that phrase modern-day morality is where I’d like to begin my talk

is where I’d like to begin my talk

is where I’d like to begin my talk tonight

tonight

tonight although most dictionaries would agree

although most dictionaries would agree

although most dictionaries would agree with my broad definition of morality

with my broad definition of morality

with my broad definition of morality obtaining a consensus for the whole

obtaining a consensus for the whole

obtaining a consensus for the whole world’s idea of such proves much for Nia

world’s idea of such proves much for Nia

world’s idea of such proves much for Nia for some euthanasia is an act of murder

for some euthanasia is an act of murder

for some euthanasia is an act of murder for others it is an act of kindness is

for others it is an act of kindness is

for others it is an act of kindness is doing right

doing right

doing right finding endless online petitions

finding endless online petitions

finding endless online petitions sweating your way to a finish line for

sweating your way to a finish line for

sweating your way to a finish line for charity or cultivating a marvelous

charity or cultivating a marvelous

charity or cultivating a marvelous mustache in Movember to raise awareness

mustache in Movember to raise awareness

mustache in Movember to raise awareness are we now only morally just when our

are we now only morally just when our

are we now only morally just when our actions will benefit others a tricky

actions will benefit others a tricky

actions will benefit others a tricky question to which I’m sure we’d all have

question to which I’m sure we’d all have

question to which I’m sure we’d all have varied answers to it is unlikely that

varied answers to it is unlikely that

varied answers to it is unlikely that any consensus of what the modern-day

any consensus of what the modern-day

any consensus of what the modern-day population thinks of as being morally

population thinks of as being morally

population thinks of as being morally correct or incorrect will be unanimous

correct or incorrect will be unanimous

correct or incorrect will be unanimous as our thoughts of fickle and a change

as our thoughts of fickle and a change

as our thoughts of fickle and a change as part of who we are our morals have

as part of who we are our morals have

as part of who we are our morals have never quite been set in stone they have

never quite been set in stone they have

never quite been set in stone they have shaped shifted since their beginning

shaped shifted since their beginning

shaped shifted since their beginning through time and across the world they

through time and across the world they

through time and across the world they have become the playdough of the people

have become the playdough of the people

have become the playdough of the people and societies since have consistently

and societies since have consistently

and societies since have consistently been molding their hand into principles

been molding their hand into principles

been molding their hand into principles that benefit their wants needs and way

that benefit their wants needs and way

that benefit their wants needs and way of life most thus difference is to be

of life most thus difference is to be

of life most thus difference is to be expected across the globe morality can

expected across the globe morality can

expected across the globe morality can undergo a revolution within a generation

undergo a revolution within a generation

undergo a revolution within a generation it was not until 1928 when women first

it was not until 1928 when women first

it was not until 1928 when women first achieved the same fighting voting rights

achieved the same fighting voting rights

achieved the same fighting voting rights as men in Germany it was 1918

as men in Germany it was 1918

as men in Germany it was 1918 Switzerland 1971 and United Arab

Switzerland 1971 and United Arab

Switzerland 1971 and United Arab Emirates 2006 in the centuries prior to

Emirates 2006 in the centuries prior to

Emirates 2006 in the centuries prior to this many thought that women having this

this many thought that women having this

this many thought that women having this right was wrong I’m sure some still do

right was wrong I’m sure some still do

right was wrong I’m sure some still do and this problem of inconsistency is

and this problem of inconsistency is

and this problem of inconsistency is especially prevalent in today’s society

especially prevalent in today’s society

especially prevalent in today’s society with our widespread access to

with our widespread access to

with our widespread access to information via the internet not all of

information via the internet not all of

information via the internet not all of us like no longer constrained by herd

us like no longer constrained by herd

us like no longer constrained by herd mentality ignorance and we’re more

mentality ignorance and we’re more

mentality ignorance and we’re more likely to form our own code of ethics

likely to form our own code of ethics

likely to form our own code of ethics therefore what is morally just in our

therefore what is morally just in our

therefore what is morally just in our day and age is entirely subjective and

day and age is entirely subjective and

day and age is entirely subjective and cannot be concretely defined this is one

cannot be concretely defined this is one

cannot be concretely defined this is one of the most compelling criticisms of

of the most compelling criticisms of

of the most compelling criticisms of presentism can one condemned restricting

presentism can one condemned restricting

presentism can one condemned restricting women’s right to vote since given that

women’s right to vote since given that

women’s right to vote since given that morals are subjective and fluid who is

morals are subjective and fluid who is

morals are subjective and fluid who is to say that a single person’s morals or

to say that a single person’s morals or

to say that a single person’s morals or rights were wrong for one to deem

rights were wrong for one to deem

rights were wrong for one to deem something is incorrect does not

something is incorrect does not

something is incorrect does not necessarily prove that it is

necessarily prove that it is

necessarily prove that it is fundamentally fundamentally wrong

fundamentally fundamentally wrong

fundamentally fundamentally wrong secondly there is no way to prove that

secondly there is no way to prove that

secondly there is no way to prove that one person’s code of morals are lost

one person’s code of morals are lost

one person’s code of morals are lost truly aligned with modern-day morality

truly aligned with modern-day morality

truly aligned with modern-day morality by which presentism aims to judge the

by which presentism aims to judge the

by which presentism aims to judge the past presentism is believed by some such

past presentism is believed by some such

past presentism is believed by some such as historian David Fisher to be a common

as historian David Fisher to be a common

as historian David Fisher to be a common fallacy in historical writing the

fallacy in historical writing the

fallacy in historical writing the fallacy of nunc pro tunc now for then

fallacy of nunc pro tunc now for then

fallacy of nunc pro tunc now for then applying judgment to an earlier date it

applying judgment to an earlier date it

applying judgment to an earlier date it is generally agreed that discussions of

is generally agreed that discussions of

is generally agreed that discussions of the past should be unclouded by bias and

the past should be unclouded by bias and

the past should be unclouded by bias and thus approaches such a presentism should

thus approaches such a presentism should

thus approaches such a presentism should not be employed another key argument

not be employed another key argument

not be employed another key argument against presentism exists it doesn’t

against presentism exists it doesn’t

against presentism exists it doesn’t matter what does the discussion or

matter what does the discussion or

matter what does the discussion or judgment of the past actually achieve

judgment of the past actually achieve

judgment of the past actually achieve the past is the past and we can do

the past is the past and we can do

the past is the past and we can do nothing about it now similarly debating

nothing about it now similarly debating

nothing about it now similarly debating on what historical figures were like is

on what historical figures were like is

on what historical figures were like is than debating about fictional characters

than debating about fictional characters

than debating about fictional characters in our day and age they only exist in

in our day and age they only exist in

in our day and age they only exist in stories I believe a case for presentism

stories I believe a case for presentism

stories I believe a case for presentism exists after all we have been using the

exists after all we have been using the

exists after all we have been using the practice in various ways for a long time

practice in various ways for a long time

practice in various ways for a long time in the 19th century students were

in the 19th century students were

in the 19th century students were expected to study ancient history to

expected to study ancient history to

expected to study ancient history to find therein examples of politics in the

find therein examples of politics in the

find therein examples of politics in the present our political system was

present our political system was

present our political system was inspired by the ancient Greeks to take

inspired by the ancient Greeks to take

inspired by the ancient Greeks to take notes from the past with the purpose of

notes from the past with the purpose of

notes from the past with the purpose of applying it to the future therein must

applying it to the future therein must

applying it to the future therein must lie a judgment in this case we deemed

lie a judgment in this case we deemed

lie a judgment in this case we deemed the Greeks example to be a positive

the Greeks example to be a positive

the Greeks example to be a positive influence my case were in for presentism

influence my case were in for presentism

influence my case were in for presentism can be broken down to two key points

can be broken down to two key points

can be broken down to two key points judging the past leads to apologies and

judging the past leads to apologies and

judging the past leads to apologies and those are needed

those are needed

those are needed second we learn from it and can do

second we learn from it and can do

second we learn from it and can do better let us start with apologies it

better let us start with apologies it

better let us start with apologies it was in 2009 that World War two code

was in 2009 that World War two code

was in 2009 that World War two code breaker alan sharing was often a offered

breaker alan sharing was often a offered

breaker alan sharing was often a offered an apology by Prime Minister Gordon

an apology by Prime Minister Gordon

an apology by Prime Minister Gordon Brown he was arrested in 1952 and his

Brown he was arrested in 1952 and his

Brown he was arrested in 1952 and his crime being homosexual it was not until

crime being homosexual it was not until

crime being homosexual it was not until 50 years ago that the Sexual Offences

50 years ago that the Sexual Offences

50 years ago that the Sexual Offences Act made it legal for two men to be

Act made it legal for two men to be

Act made it legal for two men to be together as long as it was in private

together as long as it was in private

together as long as it was in private and they were over 21 years of age

and they were over 21 years of age

and they were over 21 years of age churring was sentenced to chemical

churring was sentenced to chemical

churring was sentenced to chemical castration by a series of injections of

castration by a series of injections of

castration by a series of injections of female hormones but he killed himself

female hormones but he killed himself

female hormones but he killed himself before this could take full effect why

before this could take full effect why

before this could take full effect why was this apology important

was this apology important

was this apology important apologies are definitely not conclusions

apologies are definitely not conclusions

apologies are definitely not conclusions but they are beginnings not only was it

but they are beginnings not only was it

but they are beginnings not only was it a step in the right direction towards

a step in the right direction towards

a step in the right direction towards equality but for the surviving nieces

equality but for the surviving nieces

equality but for the surviving nieces and nephews of cheering for the

and nephews of cheering for the

and nephews of cheering for the surviving relatives of any gay person

surviving relatives of any gay person

surviving relatives of any gay person who is in justly punished for their

who is in justly punished for their

who is in justly punished for their sexuality there is a sense of peace a

sexuality there is a sense of peace a

sexuality there is a sense of peace a recognition of wrongdoing by our

recognition of wrongdoing by our

recognition of wrongdoing by our government gives calls for optimism that

government gives calls for optimism that

government gives calls for optimism that such won’t happen again in the future

such won’t happen again in the future

such won’t happen again in the future and this isn’t a perfect world hate

and this isn’t a perfect world hate

and this isn’t a perfect world hate crimes still exists but at least says

crimes still exists but at least says

crimes still exists but at least says hope upon saying can you file one bar

hope upon saying can you file one bar

hope upon saying can you file one bar Chou

Chou

Chou we’ll remember villi Brandt’s historic

we’ll remember villi Brandt’s historic

we’ll remember villi Brandt’s historic act in 1970 a silent demonstration of

act in 1970 a silent demonstration of

act in 1970 a silent demonstration of empathy and understanding for the

empathy and understanding for the

empathy and understanding for the victims of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising he

victims of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising he

victims of the Warsaw Ghetto Uprising he laid a wreath next to a commemorative

laid a wreath next to a commemorative

laid a wreath next to a commemorative monument and then knelt before it to

monument and then knelt before it to

monument and then knelt before it to what is reported as everyone’s surprise

what is reported as everyone’s surprise

what is reported as everyone’s surprise this was one of the first times that

this was one of the first times that

this was one of the first times that Germany showed remorse for the war not

Germany showed remorse for the war not

Germany showed remorse for the war not only did Brandt mine Germany that Nazism

only did Brandt mine Germany that Nazism

only did Brandt mine Germany that Nazism is something to be remembered with

is something to be remembered with

is something to be remembered with connotations of regret rather than

connotations of regret rather than

connotations of regret rather than forgotten but that through public

forgotten but that through public

forgotten but that through public demonstrations of guilt today room is

demonstrations of guilt today room is

demonstrations of guilt today room is made for reconciliation as an article in

made for reconciliation as an article in

made for reconciliation as an article in Psychology Today put it apology is not

Psychology Today put it apology is not

Psychology Today put it apology is not just a social nicety it is an important

just a social nicety it is an important

just a social nicety it is an important ritual a way of showing respect and

ritual a way of showing respect and

ritual a way of showing respect and empathy for the wronged person for those

empathy for the wronged person for those

empathy for the wronged person for those affected in the past receiving a public

affected in the past receiving a public

affected in the past receiving a public apology can lead to healing and moving

apology can lead to healing and moving

apology can lead to healing and moving past anger no longer perceiving the

past anger no longer perceiving the

past anger no longer perceiving the wrongdoer as a threat one can only

wrongdoer as a threat one can only

wrongdoer as a threat one can only imagine the good the possible goods that

imagine the good the possible goods that

imagine the good the possible goods that this could do for society if a

this could do for society if a

this could do for society if a government meaningfully apologized for

government meaningfully apologized for

government meaningfully apologized for its failures could it lessen or stop

its failures could it lessen or stop

its failures could it lessen or stop Wars could communities feel more

Wars could communities feel more

Wars could communities feel more accepted could it better world relations

accepted could it better world relations

accepted could it better world relations only possibilities but perhaps ones

only possibilities but perhaps ones

only possibilities but perhaps ones worth thinking about moving on to my

worth thinking about moving on to my

worth thinking about moving on to my second point we learn from it I came

second point we learn from it I came

second point we learn from it I came across the following comment posted

across the following comment posted

across the following comment posted online while researching this talk why

online while researching this talk why

online while researching this talk why judge the past when it seems to

judge the past when it seems to

judge the past when it seems to continually elicit a deep disappointment

continually elicit a deep disappointment

continually elicit a deep disappointment in our ancestors they will never live up

in our ancestors they will never live up

in our ancestors they will never live up to our present-day standards this is not

to our present-day standards this is not

to our present-day standards this is not the point of presentism when I judge my

the point of presentism when I judge my

the point of presentism when I judge my past self as we all naturally do I am

past self as we all naturally do I am

past self as we all naturally do I am disappointed by my actions and times of

disappointed by my actions and times of

disappointed by my actions and times of stress arrogance and ignorance I have

stress arrogance and ignorance I have

stress arrogance and ignorance I have pushed people away and manipulated

pushed people away and manipulated

pushed people away and manipulated others closer a classic example of a

others closer a classic example of a

others closer a classic example of a flawed human it pains me and I

flawed human it pains me and I

flawed human it pains me and I cringe to remember so why do I put

cringe to remember so why do I put

cringe to remember so why do I put myself through these reflections because

myself through these reflections because

myself through these reflections because it’s not all I get

it’s not all I get

it’s not all I get I endeavor to learn from that mistake I

I endeavor to learn from that mistake I

I endeavor to learn from that mistake I hope to recognize when I am on the brink

hope to recognize when I am on the brink

hope to recognize when I am on the brink of doing it again and consider my next

of doing it again and consider my next

of doing it again and consider my next move more deeply it makes a difference

move more deeply it makes a difference

move more deeply it makes a difference and arguably this is why presentism is

and arguably this is why presentism is

and arguably this is why presentism is important humanities present situation

important humanities present situation

important humanities present situation can be summed up quite nicely by a quote

can be summed up quite nicely by a quote

can be summed up quite nicely by a quote from Margaret Macmillan we can learn

from Margaret Macmillan we can learn

from Margaret Macmillan we can learn from history but we can also deceive

from history but we can also deceive

from history but we can also deceive ourselves when we selectively take

ourselves when we selectively take

ourselves when we selectively take evidence from the past to justify what

evidence from the past to justify what

evidence from the past to justify what we have already made our minds up to do

we have already made our minds up to do

we have already made our minds up to do there are a great number of examples

there are a great number of examples

there are a great number of examples where we haven’t heeded the advice from

where we haven’t heeded the advice from

where we haven’t heeded the advice from the past but there are also examples in

the past but there are also examples in

the past but there are also examples in which we have and benefits have been

which we have and benefits have been

which we have and benefits have been reaped Woodrow Wilson’s fourteen point

reaped Woodrow Wilson’s fourteen point

reaped Woodrow Wilson’s fourteen point program for world peace

program for world peace

program for world peace following World War one was designed to

following World War one was designed to

following World War one was designed to learn from the past and stop another war

learn from the past and stop another war

learn from the past and stop another war from taking place we do not know how

from taking place we do not know how

from taking place we do not know how effective it would have been if it was

effective it would have been if it was

effective it would have been if it was implemented but we do know that the

implemented but we do know that the

implemented but we do know that the harsh sanctions on Germany which the

harsh sanctions on Germany which the

harsh sanctions on Germany which the program did not support facilitated

program did not support facilitated

program did not support facilitated Hitler rising to power and the coming on

Hitler rising to power and the coming on

Hitler rising to power and the coming on of the Second World War

of the Second World War

of the Second World War learning from the failures of its

learning from the failures of its

learning from the failures of its predecessor the League of Nations the

predecessor the League of Nations the

predecessor the League of Nations the United Nations remains a prosperous

United Nations remains a prosperous

United Nations remains a prosperous institution to this day the introduction

institution to this day the introduction

institution to this day the introduction of their own army which the League of

of their own army which the League of

of their own army which the League of Nations did not have allowed them to

Nations did not have allowed them to

Nations did not have allowed them to take robust action against aggressors an

take robust action against aggressors an

take robust action against aggressors an example of this being in the Korean War

example of this being in the Korean War

example of this being in the Korean War with regards to learning from the past

with regards to learning from the past

with regards to learning from the past and where I think humanity could be I

and where I think humanity could be I

and where I think humanity could be I turned to Edmund Burke who said in

turned to Edmund Burke who said in

turned to Edmund Burke who said in history a great volume is unrolled for

history a great volume is unrolled for

history a great volume is unrolled for our instruction during the materials of

our instruction during the materials of

our instruction during the materials of future wisdom from the past errors and

future wisdom from the past errors and

future wisdom from the past errors and infirmities of mankind we’re never to

infirmities of mankind we’re never to

infirmities of mankind we’re never to look to the past for an understanding of

look to the past for an understanding of

look to the past for an understanding of where we are today and for guidelines

where we are today and for guidelines

where we are today and for guidelines for the future and while doing so we are

for the future and while doing so we are

for the future and while doing so we are bound to use a moral prism it is in our

bound to use a moral prism it is in our

bound to use a moral prism it is in our nature

nature

nature we can even just take a look at GCSE

we can even just take a look at GCSE

we can even just take a look at GCSE history questions one being to what

history questions one being to what

history questions one being to what extent was the Treaty of Versailles

extent was the Treaty of Versailles

extent was the Treaty of Versailles they’re presentism is unavoidable in the

they’re presentism is unavoidable in the

they’re presentism is unavoidable in the academic community advocating the

academic community advocating the

academic community advocating the importance of this practice is bound to

importance of this practice is bound to

importance of this practice is bound to elicit some snares but it’s worth is not

elicit some snares but it’s worth is not

elicit some snares but it’s worth is not found in the analytical essays that

found in the analytical essays that

found in the analytical essays that judge to judge alone rather it is the

judge to judge alone rather it is the

judge to judge alone rather it is the consequences of using presentism

consequences of using presentism

consequences of using presentism striving purely for a politically

striving purely for a politically

striving purely for a politically correct stance that matters an essay on

correct stance that matters an essay on

correct stance that matters an essay on how it was wrong for Cortes Spanish

how it was wrong for Cortes Spanish

how it was wrong for Cortes Spanish conquest adore to invade Mexico killing

conquest adore to invade Mexico killing

conquest adore to invade Mexico killing countless natives on the process and

countless natives on the process and

countless natives on the process and ultimately leading to the genocide of

ultimately leading to the genocide of

ultimately leading to the genocide of the Native Americans it’s not going to

the Native Americans it’s not going to

the Native Americans it’s not going to make much of a difference because we

make much of a difference because we

make much of a difference because we can’t do much about it it’s in the past

can’t do much about it it’s in the past

can’t do much about it it’s in the past yes but the lessons learned and what we

yes but the lessons learned and what we

yes but the lessons learned and what we do with this information can make

do with this information can make

do with this information can make significant differences as Donald Trump

significant differences as Donald Trump

significant differences as Donald Trump President of the United States of

President of the United States of

President of the United States of America attempts to place a wall around

America attempts to place a wall around

America attempts to place a wall around the border of Mexico to stop people in

the border of Mexico to stop people in

the border of Mexico to stop people in need from coming in because they are not

need from coming in because they are not

need from coming in because they are not Americans

Americans

Americans he not only forgets the principles on

he not only forgets the principles on

he not only forgets the principles on which America was built all men are

which America was built all men are

which America was built all men are created equal most of all he forgets

created equal most of all he forgets

created equal most of all he forgets that Americans themselves were

that Americans themselves were

that Americans themselves were immigrants

immigrants

immigrants we’re not apologizing for the

we’re not apologizing for the

we’re not apologizing for the persecution of say the lgbtq+ community

persecution of say the lgbtq+ community

persecution of say the lgbtq+ community how are they expected to feel accepted

how are they expected to feel accepted

how are they expected to feel accepted in the present without a public apology

in the present without a public apology

in the present without a public apology what are we teaching the children of

what are we teaching the children of

what are we teaching the children of this generation we may not be to blame

this generation we may not be to blame

this generation we may not be to blame for what happened but we are responsible

for what happened but we are responsible

for what happened but we are responsible for what happens next

for what happens next

for what happens next freaka also convincingly argues people

freaka also convincingly argues people

freaka also convincingly argues people who have been wronged by the state

who have been wronged by the state

who have been wronged by the state deserve an apology by the state even if

deserve an apology by the state even if

deserve an apology by the state even if the individuals and government are

the individuals and government are

the individuals and government are different from those at the time and so

different from those at the time and so

different from those at the time and so look at your moral compass speak out

look at your moral compass speak out

look at your moral compass speak out against the past and then use presentism

against the past and then use presentism

against the past and then use presentism to teach others through your learning

to teach others through your learning

to teach others through your learning through your example ultimately judging

through your example ultimately judging

through your example ultimately judging the past is important to better the

the past is important to better the

the past is important to better the present and who doesn’t want that

present and who doesn’t want that

present and who doesn’t want that you

you

you [Applause]

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