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imagine if you could make a major dent

imagine if you could make a major dent in reducing global warming by just

in reducing global warming by just

in reducing global warming by just choosing something different to eat for

choosing something different to eat for

choosing something different to eat for lunch tomorrow would you do it over the

lunch tomorrow would you do it over the

lunch tomorrow would you do it over the last year I’ve worked with the team on

last year I’ve worked with the team on

last year I’ve worked with the team on the largest rainforest conservation

the largest rainforest conservation

the largest rainforest conservation climate mitigation project in the world

climate mitigation project in the world

climate mitigation project in the world this was on some land out in Indonesia

this was on some land out in Indonesia

this was on some land out in Indonesia and I wanted to talk to you a couple of

and I wanted to talk to you a couple of

and I wanted to talk to you a couple of things I learned in that process and

things I learned in that process and

things I learned in that process and really talk about two things quick

really talk about two things quick

really talk about two things quick update on climate change or global

update on climate change or global

update on climate change or global warming and second how rainforests play

warming and second how rainforests play

warming and second how rainforests play a critical role in the solution but i

a critical role in the solution but i

a critical role in the solution but i also want to talk about how an

also want to talk about how an

also want to talk about how an individual one person even you can

individual one person even you can

individual one person even you can really make a difference by the choices

really make a difference by the choices

really make a difference by the choices you make and what you eat so let’s let’s

you make and what you eat so let’s let’s

you make and what you eat so let’s let’s do the quick update on climate change

do the quick update on climate change

do the quick update on climate change some of the top scientists around the

some of the top scientists around the

some of the top scientists around the world have told us and shown us over the

world have told us and shown us over the

world have told us and shown us over the past 10 years issues been highlighted

past 10 years issues been highlighted

past 10 years issues been highlighted that what we’re doing is putting a lot

that what we’re doing is putting a lot

that what we’re doing is putting a lot of extra carbon dioxide co2 and

of extra carbon dioxide co2 and

of extra carbon dioxide co2 and greenhouse gases into the air and this

greenhouse gases into the air and this

greenhouse gases into the air and this extra co2 is forming a thermal

extra co2 is forming a thermal

extra co2 is forming a thermal insulation blanket around the planet and

insulation blanket around the planet and

insulation blanket around the planet and warming it up faster than our natural

warming it up faster than our natural

warming it up faster than our natural systems can actually manage it we didn’t

systems can actually manage it we didn’t

systems can actually manage it we didn’t have this problem before but when we’ve

have this problem before but when we’ve

have this problem before but when we’ve started using a lot of fossil fuels coal

started using a lot of fossil fuels coal

started using a lot of fossil fuels coal oil and gas and burning him over the

oil and gas and burning him over the

oil and gas and burning him over the last hundred years 150 years roughly

last hundred years 150 years roughly

last hundred years 150 years roughly we’ve added a lot of co2 and also not

we’ve added a lot of co2 and also not

we’ve added a lot of co2 and also not only from coal which makes up about

only from coal which makes up about

only from coal which makes up about sixty three percent of the emissions

sixty three percent of the emissions

sixty three percent of the emissions that are in the air but from deforesting

that are in the air but from deforesting

that are in the air but from deforesting the forest and burning the trees to

the forest and burning the trees to

the forest and burning the trees to clear them for agriculture or cattle and

clear them for agriculture or cattle and

clear them for agriculture or cattle and that’s somewhere between twenty twenty

that’s somewhere between twenty twenty

that’s somewhere between twenty twenty and twenty-five and thirty percent of

and twenty-five and thirty percent of

and twenty-five and thirty percent of the emissions in the in the air of a

the emissions in the in the air of a

the emissions in the in the air of a year these numbers move around but

year these numbers move around but

year these numbers move around but that’s roughly what’s happening so how

that’s roughly what’s happening so how

that’s roughly what’s happening so how much carbon dioxide’s in the air and why

much carbon dioxide’s in the air and why

much carbon dioxide’s in the air and why is that really important this is an

is that really important this is an

is that really important this is an analysis that shows a roughly half a

analysis that shows a roughly half a

analysis that shows a roughly half a million years of every year how much

million years of every year how much

million years of every year how much carbon dioxide is in the air and the

carbon dioxide is in the air and the

carbon dioxide is in the air and the data comes from ice core samples that

data comes from ice core samples that

data comes from ice core samples that were taken out of glaciers where every

were taken out of glaciers where every

were taken out of glaciers where every year the annual snowfall traps air in

year the annual snowfall traps air in

year the annual snowfall traps air in that layer you can go back and look at

that layer you can go back and look at

that layer you can go back and look at it and do isotope analysis to figure out

it and do isotope analysis to figure out

it and do isotope analysis to figure out exactly what the

exactly what the

exactly what the concentrations of co2 or and what you

concentrations of co2 or and what you

concentrations of co2 or and what you see is a rough band between 180 parts

see is a rough band between 180 parts

see is a rough band between 180 parts per million at the low and 282 300 parts

per million at the low and 282 300 parts

per million at the low and 282 300 parts per million it’s a trace gas at the high

per million it’s a trace gas at the high

per million it’s a trace gas at the high and about every hundred twenty-five

and about every hundred twenty-five

and about every hundred twenty-five years there’s roughly an ice age and so

years there’s roughly an ice age and so

years there’s roughly an ice age and so the low co2 is correlated to the bottom

the low co2 is correlated to the bottom

the low co2 is correlated to the bottom of this cycle and the high co2 amounts

of this cycle and the high co2 amounts

of this cycle and the high co2 amounts correlate to the top end of the cycle

correlate to the top end of the cycle

correlate to the top end of the cycle now when it’s really cold at the bottom

now when it’s really cold at the bottom

now when it’s really cold at the bottom of the cycle the temperature the average

of the cycle the temperature the average

of the cycle the temperature the average temperature in the earth is about eight

temperature in the earth is about eight

temperature in the earth is about eight degrees Celsius lower than it is right

degrees Celsius lower than it is right

degrees Celsius lower than it is right now the seas are about 350 feet lower

now the seas are about 350 feet lower

now the seas are about 350 feet lower because of all the surface ice that

because of all the surface ice that

because of all the surface ice that exists and if you’re standing about here

exists and if you’re standing about here

exists and if you’re standing about here there’s about a mile thick of ice above

there’s about a mile thick of ice above

there’s about a mile thick of ice above your head but look at the graph and see

your head but look at the graph and see

your head but look at the graph and see what’s happened in the last hundred

what’s happened in the last hundred

what’s happened in the last hundred years we’ve put in another roughly 120

years we’ve put in another roughly 120

years we’ve put in another roughly 120 parts per million in the last hundred

parts per million in the last hundred

parts per million in the last hundred years through this extra missions and

years through this extra missions and

years through this extra missions and that’s some that’s a lot if you look

that’s some that’s a lot if you look

that’s some that’s a lot if you look over a shorter time period say 1,700

over a shorter time period say 1,700

over a shorter time period say 1,700 years and you just look at temperature

years and you just look at temperature

years and you just look at temperature after a gradual cooling period in the

after a gradual cooling period in the

after a gradual cooling period in the last hundred years we’ve had this rapid

last hundred years we’ve had this rapid

last hundred years we’ve had this rapid increase in the temperature of the

increase in the temperature of the

increase in the temperature of the planet and it’s up about a one and a

planet and it’s up about a one and a

planet and it’s up about a one and a half degrees Fahrenheit which is halfway

half degrees Fahrenheit which is halfway

half degrees Fahrenheit which is halfway to the warmest it ever was in that prior

to the warmest it ever was in that prior

to the warmest it ever was in that prior graph and there’s still more co2 being

graph and there’s still more co2 being

graph and there’s still more co2 being pumped into the air so we’re starting to

pumped into the air so we’re starting to

pumped into the air so we’re starting to see this relationship between co2

see this relationship between co2

see this relationship between co2 concentrations and temperature if you

concentrations and temperature if you

concentrations and temperature if you look at observational data which is a

look at observational data which is a

look at observational data which is a little more accurate than the methods

little more accurate than the methods

little more accurate than the methods that were done for the last two graphs

that were done for the last two graphs

that were done for the last two graphs you’ll see a pretty tighter are much

you’ll see a pretty tighter are much

you’ll see a pretty tighter are much tighter correlation between co2

tighter correlation between co2

tighter correlation between co2 concentrations and the temperature you

concentrations and the temperature you

concentrations and the temperature you start to see roughly the concentration

start to see roughly the concentration

start to see roughly the concentration increase and the temperature arrived

last week Noah released some data

last week Noah released some data showing that 2016 was the warmest

showing that 2016 was the warmest

showing that 2016 was the warmest hottest year on record since they

hottest year on record since they

hottest year on record since they started collecting data now this graph

started collecting data now this graph

started collecting data now this graph shows average temperature comparisons

shows average temperature comparisons

shows average temperature comparisons around the world for last year alone and

around the world for last year alone and

around the world for last year alone and everywhere it’s red it was warmer and

everywhere it’s red it was warmer and

everywhere it’s red it was warmer and everywhere it’s blue it was colder you

everywhere it’s blue it was colder you

everywhere it’s blue it was colder you see there are a couple of cold spots but

see there are a couple of cold spots but

see there are a couple of cold spots but they’re actually a lot of red spots and

they’re actually a lot of red spots and

they’re actually a lot of red spots and this is happening all over the planet

this is happening all over the planet

this is happening all over the planet and it rates for me it raises a couple

and it rates for me it raises a couple

and it rates for me it raises a couple of questions like

of questions like

of questions like we’re still putting a lot more co2 in

we’re still putting a lot more co2 in

we’re still putting a lot more co2 in the air how hot is it going to get and

the air how hot is it going to get and

the air how hot is it going to get and the modeling that’s going on now at the

the modeling that’s going on now at the

the modeling that’s going on now at the IPCC and other Institute’s is really

IPCC and other Institute’s is really

IPCC and other Institute’s is really focused on trying to figure out the

focused on trying to figure out the

focused on trying to figure out the predictability of how hot it will get

predictability of how hot it will get

predictability of how hot it will get and what do we need to do and can we

and what do we need to do and can we

and what do we need to do and can we adapt to this because it may get warmer

adapt to this because it may get warmer

adapt to this because it may get warmer but what does that really mean for us

but what does that really mean for us

but what does that really mean for us now and one of the things we’re starting

now and one of the things we’re starting

now and one of the things we’re starting to notice is there are a lot more

to notice is there are a lot more

to notice is there are a lot more extreme weather events which is defined

extreme weather events which is defined

extreme weather events which is defined as if you look at this graph this is

as if you look at this graph this is

as if you look at this graph this is another analysis of just 2016 the purple

another analysis of just 2016 the purple

another analysis of just 2016 the purple and blue dots are high precipitation at

and blue dots are high precipitation at

and blue dots are high precipitation at the extremes those are floods the brown

the extremes those are floods the brown

the extremes those are floods the brown or the tan dots are actually droughts

or the tan dots are actually droughts

or the tan dots are actually droughts low precipitation that’s in comparison

low precipitation that’s in comparison

low precipitation that’s in comparison to what the average was for 30-year

to what the average was for 30-year

to what the average was for 30-year period or ending around nineteen ninety

period or ending around nineteen ninety

period or ending around nineteen ninety now droughts and floods and volatile

now droughts and floods and volatile

now droughts and floods and volatile weather not very good for us in fact

weather not very good for us in fact

weather not very good for us in fact that the two and a half million known

that the two and a half million known

that the two and a half million known species need a much more stable weather

species need a much more stable weather

species need a much more stable weather pattern to survive on this planet it’s

pattern to survive on this planet it’s

pattern to survive on this planet it’s highly disruptive to have such extremes

highly disruptive to have such extremes

highly disruptive to have such extremes let’s go back to what we could possibly

let’s go back to what we could possibly

let’s go back to what we could possibly do about this so as we said we know how

do about this so as we said we know how

do about this so as we said we know how the extra co2 is gotten into the air

the extra co2 is gotten into the air

the extra co2 is gotten into the air pretty accurately mostly Cola Ling gas

pretty accurately mostly Cola Ling gas

pretty accurately mostly Cola Ling gas some burning of forests but we really

some burning of forests but we really

some burning of forests but we really have two problems I think everyone

have two problems I think everyone

have two problems I think everyone agrees we’ve got to reduce our emissions

agrees we’ve got to reduce our emissions

agrees we’ve got to reduce our emissions but we really got to figure out a way to

but we really got to figure out a way to

but we really got to figure out a way to get the extra co2 back out of the air no

get the extra co2 back out of the air no

get the extra co2 back out of the air no one really talks about that a lot and

one really talks about that a lot and

one really talks about that a lot and when you do there’s some scientists who

when you do there’s some scientists who

when you do there’s some scientists who proposed things like what are called

proposed things like what are called

proposed things like what are called large geo global projects where you’re

large geo global projects where you’re

large geo global projects where you’re either trying to manage the amount of

either trying to manage the amount of

either trying to manage the amount of energy coming into the Sun and reduce it

energy coming into the Sun and reduce it

energy coming into the Sun and reduce it so it doesn’t get as hot or you’re

so it doesn’t get as hot or you’re

so it doesn’t get as hot or you’re putting large amounts of chemicals into

putting large amounts of chemicals into

putting large amounts of chemicals into the Seas or into the air to to manage

the Seas or into the air to to manage

the Seas or into the air to to manage the natural cycles that reduce co2

the natural cycles that reduce co2

the natural cycles that reduce co2 because if we don’t do anything that co2

because if we don’t do anything that co2

because if we don’t do anything that co2 is going to be in the air for thousands

is going to be in the air for thousands

is going to be in the air for thousands of years there’s nowhere else for to go

of years there’s nowhere else for to go

of years there’s nowhere else for to go so this is where forests come into play

so this is where forests come into play

so this is where forests come into play farce are beautiful they do when you

farce are beautiful they do when you

farce are beautiful they do when you don’t not cutting them down they do a

don’t not cutting them down they do a

don’t not cutting them down they do a lot of things first of all forest take

lot of things first of all forest take

lot of things first of all forest take co2 out of the air in large scale and

co2 out of the air in large scale and

co2 out of the air in large scale and they create large banks of what are

they create large banks of what are

they create large banks of what are called negative emissions or climate

called negative emissions or climate

called negative emissions or climate sinks or carbon sinks

sinks or carbon sinks

sinks or carbon sinks these forests and maybe from your

these forests and maybe from your

these forests and maybe from your biology class you remember that through

biology class you remember that through

biology class you remember that through photosynthesis the actual chlorophyll in

photosynthesis the actual chlorophyll in

photosynthesis the actual chlorophyll in the plant’s leaves and the tree’s leaves

the plant’s leaves and the tree’s leaves

the plant’s leaves and the tree’s leaves take the energy from the Sun convert it

take the energy from the Sun convert it

take the energy from the Sun convert it into sugars for food and the trees grow

into sugars for food and the trees grow

into sugars for food and the trees grow and store vast amounts of carbon in the

and store vast amounts of carbon in the

and store vast amounts of carbon in the wood and the tree’s roots in the soil

wood and the tree’s roots in the soil

wood and the tree’s roots in the soil and that is something that we need I

and that is something that we need I

and that is something that we need I think to allow to happen because if you

think to allow to happen because if you

think to allow to happen because if you look back say 10,000 years before humans

look back say 10,000 years before humans

look back say 10,000 years before humans started degrading the forest and cutting

started degrading the forest and cutting

started degrading the forest and cutting them down there were about 18 billion

them down there were about 18 billion

them down there were about 18 billion acres of forests on the world about half

acres of forests on the world about half

acres of forests on the world about half of those were in the tropics where it

of those were in the tropics where it

of those were in the tropics where it was very wet very hot things grow very

was very wet very hot things grow very

was very wet very hot things grow very rapidly and in the last 10,000 years

rapidly and in the last 10,000 years

rapidly and in the last 10,000 years we’ve either degraded which is basically

we’ve either degraded which is basically

we’ve either degraded which is basically cut down a lot of them or deforested

cut down a lot of them or deforested

cut down a lot of them or deforested eighty percent of the forest on the

eighty percent of the forest on the

eighty percent of the forest on the planet in fact right now there’s only

planet in fact right now there’s only

planet in fact right now there’s only around one and a half billion acres of

around one and a half billion acres of

around one and a half billion acres of rainforest left on the planet that’s

rainforest left on the planet that’s

rainforest left on the planet that’s that’s the size of an area a little

that’s the size of an area a little

that’s the size of an area a little smaller than Australia every year three

smaller than Australia every year three

smaller than Australia every year three to five percent getting smaller getting

to five percent getting smaller getting

to five percent getting smaller getting smaller so one of the most destructive

smaller so one of the most destructive

smaller so one of the most destructive things that’s happening in the

things that’s happening in the

things that’s happening in the rainforest is the production the

rainforest is the production the

rainforest is the production the large-scale production of a product

large-scale production of a product

large-scale production of a product called palm oil now palm oil it’s an

called palm oil now palm oil it’s an

called palm oil now palm oil it’s an edible vegetable oil it grows very fast

edible vegetable oil it grows very fast

edible vegetable oil it grows very fast in the tropics it’s the largest

in the tropics it’s the largest

in the tropics it’s the largest vegetable oil product in the world in

vegetable oil product in the world in

vegetable oil product in the world in the last 20 years it’s been a product

the last 20 years it’s been a product

the last 20 years it’s been a product that you can find in almost forty to

that you can find in almost forty to

that you can find in almost forty to fifty percent of the of the commercial

fifty percent of the of the commercial

fifty percent of the of the commercial grocery stores around the world

grocery stores around the world

grocery stores around the world primarily in Asia and in the US and

primarily in Asia and in the US and

primarily in Asia and in the US and Europe you find it in cooking oils you

Europe you find it in cooking oils you

Europe you find it in cooking oils you find it in cookies cakes biscuits

find it in cookies cakes biscuits

find it in cookies cakes biscuits because it’s a semi solid at room

because it’s a semi solid at room

because it’s a semi solid at room temperature you can use it in other

temperature you can use it in other

temperature you can use it in other products to like soaps and shampoos and

products to like soaps and shampoos and

products to like soaps and shampoos and cosmetics so we have this use of palm

cosmetics so we have this use of palm

cosmetics so we have this use of palm oil and one of the interesting things

oil and one of the interesting things

oil and one of the interesting things about Paul moles they’re only really two

about Paul moles they’re only really two

about Paul moles they’re only really two countries where eighty-five percent of

countries where eighty-five percent of

countries where eighty-five percent of the palm oil gets grown Indonesia and

the palm oil gets grown Indonesia and

the palm oil gets grown Indonesia and Malaysia and for the past 20 years

Malaysia and for the past 20 years

Malaysia and for the past 20 years they’ve been cutting down vast areas of

they’ve been cutting down vast areas of

they’ve been cutting down vast areas of rain forests and burning them to allow

rain forests and burning them to allow

rain forests and burning them to allow for palm oil production these are space

for palm oil production these are space

for palm oil production these are space shots of the smoke in 2015 that covered

shots of the smoke in 2015 that covered

shots of the smoke in 2015 that covered most of Singapore in that whole area

most of Singapore in that whole area

most of Singapore in that whole area from just far as being cut down it was

from just far as being cut down it was

from just far as being cut down it was during the post El Nino season two so

during the post El Nino season two so

during the post El Nino season two so this was pretty intense the monsoons

this was pretty intense the monsoons

this was pretty intense the monsoons come in

come in

come in and put out a lot of the fires but it’s

and put out a lot of the fires but it’s

and put out a lot of the fires but it’s a repeating pattern that’s happened year

a repeating pattern that’s happened year

a repeating pattern that’s happened year after year one of the problems here is

after year one of the problems here is

after year one of the problems here is there there’s not just one big company

there there’s not just one big company

there there’s not just one big company or two big companies doing this in the

or two big companies doing this in the

or two big companies doing this in the forests there are about 150,000 small

forests there are about 150,000 small

forests there are about 150,000 small farmers spread out over a vast area who

farmers spread out over a vast area who

farmers spread out over a vast area who individually cut down small acreage and

individually cut down small acreage and

individually cut down small acreage and then sell their fruits they cut down the

then sell their fruits they cut down the

then sell their fruits they cut down the forest they burn the trees clear the

forest they burn the trees clear the

forest they burn the trees clear the land plant the seeds and then within

land plant the seeds and then within

land plant the seeds and then within three years the plants start growing

three years the plants start growing

three years the plants start growing they look like this is their small palm

they look like this is their small palm

they look like this is their small palm tree plants then within three years I

tree plants then within three years I

tree plants then within three years I start harvesting fruit this is what the

start harvesting fruit this is what the

start harvesting fruit this is what the fruit looks like that goes to a mill

fruit looks like that goes to a mill

fruit looks like that goes to a mill gets processed and turned into palm oil

gets processed and turned into palm oil

gets processed and turned into palm oil so this is the forest before untouched

so this is the forest before untouched

so this is the forest before untouched and a couple years later palm well it’s

and a couple years later palm well it’s

and a couple years later palm well it’s a homogenous monoculture lots of snakes

a homogenous monoculture lots of snakes

a homogenous monoculture lots of snakes lots of rats but not a lot of other

lots of rats but not a lot of other

lots of rats but not a lot of other biodiversity so it creates a problem

biodiversity so it creates a problem

biodiversity so it creates a problem where does this biodiversity actually go

where does this biodiversity actually go

where does this biodiversity actually go because rain forests contain fifty

because rain forests contain fifty

because rain forests contain fifty percent of the biodiversity on the

percent of the biodiversity on the

percent of the biodiversity on the planet in the areas in Indonesia

planet in the areas in Indonesia

planet in the areas in Indonesia Malaysia there’s hundreds of endangered

Malaysia there’s hundreds of endangered

Malaysia there’s hundreds of endangered species and critically endangered

species and critically endangered

species and critically endangered species like orangutang pangolins

species like orangutang pangolins

species like orangutang pangolins hundreds of bird species are being lost

hundreds of bird species are being lost

hundreds of bird species are being lost the orangutan kind of special to me

the orangutan kind of special to me

the orangutan kind of special to me genetically one of our closest cousins

genetically one of our closest cousins

genetically one of our closest cousins which is great but there are only about

which is great but there are only about

which is great but there are only about 60,000 left in the world and they’re all

60,000 left in the world and they’re all

60,000 left in the world and they’re all in these two countries that’s down

in these two countries that’s down

in these two countries that’s down eighty percent from a hundred years ago

eighty percent from a hundred years ago

eighty percent from a hundred years ago and in the next ten years is projected

and in the next ten years is projected

and in the next ten years is projected to thirty percent of the habitats they

to thirty percent of the habitats they

to thirty percent of the habitats they live in is going to disappear due to

live in is going to disappear due to

live in is going to disappear due to this process so it’s a pretty tough

this process so it’s a pretty tough

this process so it’s a pretty tough problem one of the things you can do and

problem one of the things you can do and

problem one of the things you can do and this is where you come in as an

this is where you come in as an

this is where you come in as an individual you have to learn it will

individual you have to learn it will

individual you have to learn it will take about two minutes for you to learn

take about two minutes for you to learn

take about two minutes for you to learn how do you identify when there’s Paul

how do you identify when there’s Paul

how do you identify when there’s Paul molé and the products you eat it comes

molé and the products you eat it comes

molé and the products you eat it comes under several names sometimes it’s very

under several names sometimes it’s very

under several names sometimes it’s very easy it just says palm oil other times

easy it just says palm oil other times

easy it just says palm oil other times its palm kernel oil because you can

its palm kernel oil because you can

its palm kernel oil because you can actually take a slightly different type

actually take a slightly different type

actually take a slightly different type of oil out of the kernel of the fruit or

of oil out of the kernel of the fruit or

of oil out of the kernel of the fruit or palm vegetable oil sometimes it’s

palm vegetable oil sometimes it’s

palm vegetable oil sometimes it’s abbreviated in acronyms sometimes it

abbreviated in acronyms sometimes it

abbreviated in acronyms sometimes it just says vegetable oil but it’s really

just says vegetable oil but it’s really

just says vegetable oil but it’s really palm well you have to dig deeper and

palm well you have to dig deeper and

palm well you have to dig deeper and find out once you learn that you can

find out once you learn that you can

find out once you learn that you can look on the ingredients for boxes and

look on the ingredients for boxes and

look on the ingredients for boxes and figure out hey is what i’m eating

figure out hey is what i’m eating

figure out hey is what i’m eating actually palm oil or not and then what

actually palm oil or not and then what

actually palm oil or not and then what do you do you have a choice

do you do you have a choice

do you do you have a choice I call it the just gasps choice you can

I call it the just gasps choice you can

I call it the just gasps choice you can either eat it or not eat it but there

either eat it or not eat it but there

either eat it or not eat it but there are a lot of companies both in the

are a lot of companies both in the

are a lot of companies both in the supply chain and in the consumer goods

supply chain and in the consumer goods

supply chain and in the consumer goods area that are very aware of this problem

area that are very aware of this problem

area that are very aware of this problem and have gone out and made no

and have gone out and made no

and have gone out and made no deforestation pledges which is terrific

deforestation pledges which is terrific

deforestation pledges which is terrific they’re aware of this and they’re

they’re aware of this and they’re

they’re aware of this and they’re starting to work on it but it’s one of

starting to work on it but it’s one of

starting to work on it but it’s one of these critical you know easier said than

these critical you know easier said than

these critical you know easier said than done situations where because of the

done situations where because of the

done situations where because of the confusion in the supply chain because of

confusion in the supply chain because of

confusion in the supply chain because of a very difficult challenge of tracing

a very difficult challenge of tracing

a very difficult challenge of tracing who actually sold what fruit from what

who actually sold what fruit from what

who actually sold what fruit from what field from what processing plant through

field from what processing plant through

field from what processing plant through what processor to a thing it’s extremely

what processor to a thing it’s extremely

what processor to a thing it’s extremely different difficult and these companies

different difficult and these companies

different difficult and these companies need I would say more than just a little

need I would say more than just a little

need I would say more than just a little encouragement to keep on the fight to

encouragement to keep on the fight to

encouragement to keep on the fight to try and trace us back and solve this

try and trace us back and solve this

try and trace us back and solve this problem and the way you can do that

problem and the way you can do that

problem and the way you can do that because we have great tools and we have

because we have great tools and we have

because we have great tools and we have language is text and email you’d be

language is text and email you’d be

language is text and email you’d be remarkably impressed how powerful an

remarkably impressed how powerful an

remarkably impressed how powerful an individual can be by just texting and

individual can be by just texting and

individual can be by just texting and asking a company a question about their

asking a company a question about their

asking a company a question about their products companies are extremely

products companies are extremely

products companies are extremely extremely sensitive to consumer input in

extremely sensitive to consumer input in

extremely sensitive to consumer input in fact they spend billions of dollars

fact they spend billions of dollars

fact they spend billions of dollars trying to get you to buy something and

trying to get you to buy something and

trying to get you to buy something and when you stop buying it they want to

when you stop buying it they want to

when you stop buying it they want to know why but if you can get ahead of

know why but if you can get ahead of

know why but if you can get ahead of them and tell them we don’t like what

them and tell them we don’t like what

them and tell them we don’t like what you’re doing or we want you to come up

you’re doing or we want you to come up

you’re doing or we want you to come up with a substitute use a domestic use

with a substitute use a domestic use

with a substitute use a domestic use something else but this or prove to us

something else but this or prove to us

something else but this or prove to us that you’re actually doing it in a way

that you’re actually doing it in a way

that you’re actually doing it in a way that’s sustainable that really helps and

that’s sustainable that really helps and

that’s sustainable that really helps and you have that capability every one of

you have that capability every one of

you have that capability every one of you does so we’re down to a system where

you does so we’re down to a system where

you does so we’re down to a system where you can either make a choice and do

you can either make a choice and do

you can either make a choice and do something about it or continue the

something about it or continue the

something about it or continue the system we’ve set out I actually think

system we’ve set out I actually think

system we’ve set out I actually think this is one of the more powerful things

this is one of the more powerful things

this is one of the more powerful things because not only by putting pressure on

because not only by putting pressure on

because not only by putting pressure on the companies that do this you can

the companies that do this you can

the companies that do this you can reduce global warming you can save

reduce global warming you can save

reduce global warming you can save biodiversity you can actually get

biodiversity you can actually get

biodiversity you can actually get something else good d thank you for

something else good d thank you for

something else good d thank you for listening

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