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How to Build a Biological Starship | Angelo VERMEULEN | TEDxBrussels


I’m going to take you far far away and

I’m going to take you far far away and we will talk about my latest research

we will talk about my latest research

we will talk about my latest research which is dealing with as you just heard

which is dealing with as you just heard

which is dealing with as you just heard with deep space what you see here is the

with deep space what you see here is the

with deep space what you see here is the first patented spaceship in history it

first patented spaceship in history it

first patented spaceship in history it was designed and as you can see in 1901

was designed and as you can see in 1901

was designed and as you can see in 1901 by Frederick Thompson it was actually an

by Frederick Thompson it was actually an

by Frederick Thompson it was actually an electrically powered mechanical bark

electrically powered mechanical bark

electrically powered mechanical bark right which was developed for the

right which was developed for the

right which was developed for the pan-american Exhibition in Buffalo New

pan-american Exhibition in Buffalo New

pan-american Exhibition in Buffalo New York

York

York it was a multimedia moon simulation a

it was a multimedia moon simulation a

it was a multimedia moon simulation a trip to the moon people would enter a

trip to the moon people would enter a

trip to the moon people would enter a large building they would take place in

large building they would take place in

large building they would take place in this spaceship that was actually built

this spaceship that was actually built

this spaceship that was actually built and then through all kinds of devices

and then through all kinds of devices

and then through all kinds of devices for example flapping wings earth was

for example flapping wings earth was

for example flapping wings earth was painted on a canvas and then with using

painted on a canvas and then with using

painted on a canvas and then with using pulleys the earth would receive the

pulleys the earth would receive the

pulleys the earth would receive the spaceship would leave earth would fly

spaceship would leave earth would fly

spaceship would leave earth would fly through space and would actually land on

through space and would actually land on

through space and would actually land on the moon then the visitors would be

the moon then the visitors would be

the moon then the visitors would be allowed to get up the spaceship they

allowed to get up the spaceship they

allowed to get up the spaceship they would enter a paper mache moon landscape

would enter a paper mache moon landscape

would enter a paper mache moon landscape they would be welcomed by dwarf actors

they would be welcomed by dwarf actors

they would be welcomed by dwarf actors with witness a show by the man on the

with witness a show by the man on the

with witness a show by the man on the moon and then the whole attraction would

moon and then the whole attraction would

moon and then the whole attraction would be over it was very successful actually

be over it was very successful actually

be over it was very successful actually 400,000 people visited this it was a

400,000 people visited this it was a

400,000 people visited this it was a huge ship and the designers actually

huge ship and the designers actually

huge ship and the designers actually after the exhibition moved it to Coney

after the exhibition moved it to Coney

after the exhibition moved it to Coney Island where they called it where it

Island where they called it where it

Island where they called it where it became part of the Luna Park because the

became part of the Luna Park because the

became part of the Luna Park because the spaceship was called Luna and that’s

spaceship was called Luna and that’s

spaceship was called Luna and that’s actually where the name Luna Park comes

actually where the name Luna Park comes

actually where the name Luna Park comes from why we’re talking about this why

from why we’re talking about this why

from why we’re talking about this why I’m introducing my talk about

I’m introducing my talk about

I’m introducing my talk about interstellar space with some

interstellar space with some

interstellar space with some construction from the 19th century well

construction from the 19th century well

construction from the 19th century well if you look at the design of this

if you look at the design of this

if you look at the design of this particular spaceship it’s very clear how

particular spaceship it’s very clear how

particular spaceship it’s very clear how difficult it is for our imagination to

difficult it is for our imagination to

difficult it is for our imagination to think in the future the design of this

think in the future the design of this

think in the future the design of this particular spaceship is very deeply

particular spaceship is very deeply

particular spaceship is very deeply rooted into its own time it reflects

rooted into its own time it reflects

rooted into its own time it reflects technologies from the day such as

technologies from the day such as

technologies from the day such as ornithopters airships and if we move

ornithopters airships and if we move

ornithopters airships and if we move further we can see that even in these

further we can see that even in these

further we can see that even in these examples are always deeply rooted in

examples are always deeply rooted in

examples are always deeply rooted in their own time you can see on the

their own time you can see on the

their own time you can see on the left-hand side the USS Enterprise Star

left-hand side the USS Enterprise Star

left-hand side the USS Enterprise Star Trek which is a typical symbol of the

Trek which is a typical symbol of the

Trek which is a typical symbol of the Space Age aerodynamic

Space Age aerodynamic

Space Age aerodynamic except you don’t really need

except you don’t really need

except you don’t really need aerodynamics and outer space it’s kind

aerodynamics and outer space it’s kind

aerodynamics and outer space it’s kind of vacuum there and then you have the

of vacuum there and then you have the

of vacuum there and then you have the beautiful star war designs and they’re

beautiful star war designs and they’re

beautiful star war designs and they’re very typically seventies angular designs

very typically seventies angular designs

very typically seventies angular designs now when we’re talking about going into

now when we’re talking about going into

now when we’re talking about going into interstellar space

interstellar space

interstellar space there is one particularly defining

there is one particularly defining

there is one particularly defining feature of a trip through deep space

feature of a trip through deep space

feature of a trip through deep space through interstellar space the space

through interstellar space the space

through interstellar space the space between stars it’s unpredictable this is

between stars it’s unpredictable this is

between stars it’s unpredictable this is in big contrast with what you can see

in big contrast with what you can see

in big contrast with what you can see here this is an image scheduled of the

here this is an image scheduled of the

here this is an image scheduled of the Apollo program this was taken care of in

Apollo program this was taken care of in

Apollo program this was taken care of in a very different way basically what they

a very different way basically what they

a very different way basically what they did is they they got closer and closer

did is they they got closer and closer

did is they they got closer and closer to the moon step-by-step charting and

to the moon step-by-step charting and

to the moon step-by-step charting and trying to understand all the different

trying to understand all the different

trying to understand all the different things that could go wrong kind of

things that could go wrong kind of

things that could go wrong kind of mapping all the contingencies and then

mapping all the contingencies and then

mapping all the contingencies and then finally they made a trip all the way

finally they made a trip all the way

finally they made a trip all the way down to the surface of the Moon that’s

down to the surface of the Moon that’s

down to the surface of the Moon that’s how most space exploration missions are

how most space exploration missions are

how most space exploration missions are being designed now when you go into deep

being designed now when you go into deep

being designed now when you go into deep space you cannot use this trick anymore

space you cannot use this trick anymore

space you cannot use this trick anymore it’s too far away far out and you can’t

it’s too far away far out and you can’t

it’s too far away far out and you can’t just go into deep space and then come

just go into deep space and then come

just go into deep space and then come back and tune a few things so you need a

back and tune a few things so you need a

back and tune a few things so you need a different approach there to Bay two ways

different approach there to Bay two ways

different approach there to Bay two ways you can handle this the first one is

you can handle this the first one is

you can handle this the first one is redundancy and redundancy is something

redundancy and redundancy is something

redundancy and redundancy is something that is used in this fantastic

that is used in this fantastic

that is used in this fantastic initiative which is called breakthrough

initiative which is called breakthrough

initiative which is called breakthrough starshot it was announced last year in

starshot it was announced last year in

starshot it was announced last year in April with the support of Mark

April with the support of Mark

April with the support of Mark Zuckerberg Stephen Hawking it’s the

Zuckerberg Stephen Hawking it’s the

Zuckerberg Stephen Hawking it’s the first interstellar mission that mankind

first interstellar mission that mankind

first interstellar mission that mankind is currently developing the very tiny

is currently developing the very tiny

is currently developing the very tiny spacecraft it’s an unmanned mission of

spacecraft it’s an unmanned mission of

spacecraft it’s an unmanned mission of obviously we’re not ready to send people

obviously we’re not ready to send people

obviously we’re not ready to send people to different stars they’re very the

to different stars they’re very the

to different stars they’re very the concept here is to send very tiny

concept here is to send very tiny

concept here is to send very tiny spacecraft probes to a different star

spacecraft probes to a different star

spacecraft probes to a different star using light sails and then beaming a

using light sails and then beaming a

using light sails and then beaming a very powerful laser from earth onto the

very powerful laser from earth onto the

very powerful laser from earth onto the sails accelerating the craft with a very

sails accelerating the craft with a very

sails accelerating the craft with a very to a very high speed let’s say 20% of

to a very high speed let’s say 20% of

to a very high speed let’s say 20% of the speed of light and then with this

the speed of light and then with this

the speed of light and then with this speed those craft could reach the

speed those craft could reach the

speed those craft could reach the nearest star in about 20 years which is

nearest star in about 20 years which is

nearest star in about 20 years which is not bad and the idea would be that when

not bad and the idea would be that when

not bad and the idea would be that when the craft passes the star it would be

the craft passes the star it would be

the craft passes the star it would be back photos to earth with the light of

back photos to earth with the light of

back photos to earth with the light of speech so basically in about 25 years we

speech so basically in about 25 years we

speech so basically in about 25 years we could have first images of a different

could have first images of a different

could have first images of a different star all the technologies are not in

star all the technologies are not in

star all the technologies are not in place yet but like I said they’re

place yet but like I said they’re

place yet but like I said they’re working on it and it’s an example of

working on it and it’s an example of

working on it and it’s an example of redundancy because what they’re planning

redundancy because what they’re planning

redundancy because what they’re planning to do is they planning to send out a

to do is they planning to send out a

to do is they planning to send out a swar

swar

swar of these many of these and hopefully one

of these many of these and hopefully one

of these many of these and hopefully one will arrive now there is another

will arrive now there is another

will arrive now there is another approach and the other approach is

approach and the other approach is

approach and the other approach is something that was that came up to me

something that was that came up to me

something that was that came up to me when I was looking at this this is a

when I was looking at this this is a

when I was looking at this this is a robot without a particular fixed body

robot without a particular fixed body

robot without a particular fixed body foam bought from developed at University

foam bought from developed at University

foam bought from developed at University of Pennsylvania a few years ago and what

of Pennsylvania a few years ago and what

of Pennsylvania a few years ago and what you can see here is actually a robot

you can see here is actually a robot

you can see here is actually a robot that actually when it’s encountering a

that actually when it’s encountering a

that actually when it’s encountering a particular physical challenges challenge

particular physical challenges challenge

particular physical challenges challenge it calculates the physical body it needs

it calculates the physical body it needs

it calculates the physical body it needs to overcome that challenge it will

to overcome that challenge it will

to overcome that challenge it will distribute that its joints that hat it

distribute that its joints that hat it

distribute that its joints that hat it has at its disposal on the floor it will

has at its disposal on the floor it will

has at its disposal on the floor it will connect a joint using Bully urethane

connect a joint using Bully urethane

connect a joint using Bully urethane foam to create a body on the fly it will

foam to create a body on the fly it will

foam to create a body on the fly it will then calculate a movement scheme to move

then calculate a movement scheme to move

then calculate a movement scheme to move the body and it will overcome the

the body and it will overcome the

the body and it will overcome the obstacle which I thought it was

obstacle which I thought it was

obstacle which I thought it was incredibly cool this is not even a

incredibly cool this is not even a

incredibly cool this is not even a polymorphic robot you know like

polymorphic robot you know like

polymorphic robot you know like transformers robots which have a few

transformers robots which have a few

transformers robots which have a few configurations this is really a robot I

configurations this is really a robot I

configurations this is really a robot I can take any shape and this gave me the

can take any shape and this gave me the

can take any shape and this gave me the idea to start thinking about developing

idea to start thinking about developing

idea to start thinking about developing starships that actually evolved over

starships that actually evolved over

starships that actually evolved over time that can reshape themselves or code

time that can reshape themselves or code

time that can reshape themselves or code during the journey a code according to

during the journey a code according to

during the journey a code according to the different needs of of what’s

the different needs of of what’s

the different needs of of what’s happening around them and also the

happening around them and also the

happening around them and also the different things that are changing

different things that are changing

different things that are changing inside the spaceship which I will

inside the spaceship which I will

inside the spaceship which I will explain in a bit I’m actually not an

explain in a bit I’m actually not an

explain in a bit I’m actually not an aerospace engineer I’m a biologist as

aerospace engineer I’m a biologist as

aerospace engineer I’m a biologist as you as you could just hear and only

you as you could just hear and only

you as you could just hear and only recently I’ve jumped into the field of

recently I’ve jumped into the field of

recently I’ve jumped into the field of space systems and my original biological

space systems and my original biological

space systems and my original biological research was deformities of the teeth of

research was deformities of the teeth of

research was deformities of the teeth of larvae of non-biting midges our Upton is

larvae of non-biting midges our Upton is

larvae of non-biting midges our Upton is for six years very interesting actually

for six years very interesting actually

for six years very interesting actually got a PhD in this go figure no wonder I

got a PhD in this go figure no wonder I

got a PhD in this go figure no wonder I moved on to other things the thing is it

moved on to other things the thing is it

moved on to other things the thing is it is really useful because now I’m

is really useful because now I’m

is really useful because now I’m actually applying my developmental

actually applying my developmental

actually applying my developmental biology background into aerospace now

biology background into aerospace now

biology background into aerospace now thinking about some of developing space

thinking about some of developing space

thinking about some of developing space systems is nothing new for example this

systems is nothing new for example this

systems is nothing new for example this is a very nice example of a proposal

is a very nice example of a proposal

is a very nice example of a proposal that NASA brought out in the 80s of a

that NASA brought out in the 80s of a

that NASA brought out in the 80s of a self-replicating lunar Factory it’s

self-replicating lunar Factory it’s

self-replicating lunar Factory it’s basically an autonomous factory in which

basically an autonomous factory in which

basically an autonomous factory in which machines would build a system a factory

machines would build a system a factory

machines would build a system a factory for example infrastructure and the

for example infrastructure and the

for example infrastructure and the machines which self replicates to keep

machines which self replicates to keep

machines which self replicates to keep on produce

on produce

on produce seeing more of the infrastructure using

seeing more of the infrastructure using

seeing more of the infrastructure using lunar soil now today with all the new

lunar soil now today with all the new

lunar soil now today with all the new technologies around an especially 3d

technologies around an especially 3d

technologies around an especially 3d printing suddenly the idea of building

printing suddenly the idea of building

printing suddenly the idea of building things on in space on the fly have

things on in space on the fly have

things on in space on the fly have become much more realistic and actually

become much more realistic and actually

become much more realistic and actually right now in the international space

right now in the international space

right now in the international space station there is a 3d printer created by

station there is a 3d printer created by

station there is a 3d printer created by made in space that is actually used to

made in space that is actually used to

made in space that is actually used to run experiments and I believe that 3d

run experiments and I believe that 3d

run experiments and I believe that 3d printing could be a real game-changer in

printing could be a real game-changer in

printing could be a real game-changer in the future of space travel now when

the future of space travel now when

the future of space travel now when we’re thinking about a spacecraft the

we’re thinking about a spacecraft the

we’re thinking about a spacecraft the starship that develops itself over time

starship that develops itself over time

starship that develops itself over time it’s traveling at a very high speed

it’s traveling at a very high speed

it’s traveling at a very high speed where did the resources come from the

where did the resources come from the

where did the resources come from the thing is it can’t really stop to find

thing is it can’t really stop to find

thing is it can’t really stop to find some stuff and I move on it’s travelling

some stuff and I move on it’s travelling

some stuff and I move on it’s travelling way too fast it takes too long to to

way too fast it takes too long to to

way too fast it takes too long to to decelerate so basically what you need to

decelerate so basically what you need to

decelerate so basically what you need to do is you need to take all your raw

do is you need to take all your raw

do is you need to take all your raw materials on board there’s basically a

materials on board there’s basically a

materials on board there’s basically a bit like this like an embryo like a

bit like this like an embryo like a

bit like this like an embryo like a chick egg you know the the yolk is

chick egg you know the the yolk is

chick egg you know the the yolk is basically the raw material it’s all

basically the raw material it’s all

basically the raw material it’s all self-contained and the raw material over

self-contained and the raw material over

self-contained and the raw material over time develops into this complex thing

time develops into this complex thing

time develops into this complex thing which is a small chick so this is the

which is a small chick so this is the

which is a small chick so this is the core concept of what I’m proposing here

core concept of what I’m proposing here

core concept of what I’m proposing here took me years to come up with this three

took me years to come up with this three

took me years to come up with this three squares anyhow you have a spaceship

squares anyhow you have a spaceship

squares anyhow you have a spaceship which is like an active component there

which is like an active component there

which is like an active component there is raw materials and then there is

is raw materials and then there is

is raw materials and then there is constant bootstrapping of growth and

constant bootstrapping of growth and

constant bootstrapping of growth and evolution and the groove then you have

evolution and the groove then you have

evolution and the groove then you have lose the growth and evolution are

lose the growth and evolution are

lose the growth and evolution are basically stimulated because in part

basically stimulated because in part

basically stimulated because in part because of environmental change is the

because of environmental change is the

because of environmental change is the interstellar medium in the open space

interstellar medium in the open space

interstellar medium in the open space between stars is not constant they’re

between stars is not constant they’re

between stars is not constant they’re different kinds of challenges such as

different kinds of challenges such as

different kinds of challenges such as radiation impacts of micro meteorites

radiation impacts of micro meteorites

radiation impacts of micro meteorites etc and there’s of course also internal

etc and there’s of course also internal

etc and there’s of course also internal G changes your populations might grow

G changes your populations might grow

G changes your populations might grow and might need more space now what kind

and might need more space now what kind

and might need more space now what kind of materials are you going to take on

of materials are you going to take on

of materials are you going to take on board shipping materials from Earth and

board shipping materials from Earth and

board shipping materials from Earth and moving them into space is really

moving them into space is really

moving them into space is really expensive so we came up with the idea

expensive so we came up with the idea

expensive so we came up with the idea because I’m working on this with many

because I’m working on this with many

because I’m working on this with many different people at my university and I

different people at my university and I

different people at my university and I left with all student team we came up

left with all student team we came up

left with all student team we came up with the idea of using asteroids and

with the idea of using asteroids and

with the idea of using asteroids and clicking a protostar ship to an asteroid

clicking a protostar ship to an asteroid

clicking a protostar ship to an asteroid and then gradually over time during the

and then gradually over time during the

and then gradually over time during the journey use the asteroids for resources

journey use the asteroids for resources

journey use the asteroids for resources and the asteroid could be used for

and the asteroid could be used for

and the asteroid could be used for resources both to develop the ecosystem

resources both to develop the ecosystem

resources both to develop the ecosystem and to develop the architecture because

and to develop the architecture because

and to develop the architecture because it’s known that asteroids contain both

it’s known that asteroids contain both

it’s known that asteroids contain both organic material water

organic material water

organic material water and different types of metals now there

and different types of metals now there

and different types of metals now there is a difference between growth and

is a difference between growth and

is a difference between growth and evolution and I need to make the

evolution and I need to make the

evolution and I need to make the distinction here growth is the way in

distinction here growth is the way in

distinction here growth is the way in which you’re developing our model is a

which you’re developing our model is a

which you’re developing our model is a repetition of the same systems a

repetition of the same systems a

repetition of the same systems a particular system works and then you

particular system works and then you

particular system works and then you don’t need to need to change it

don’t need to need to change it

don’t need to need to change it evolution is something else

evolution is something else

evolution is something else evolution is like really changing the

evolution is like really changing the

evolution is like really changing the morphology of the whole system and this

morphology of the whole system and this

morphology of the whole system and this is how we look at it the spaceship the

is how we look at it the spaceship the

is how we look at it the spaceship the starship is traveling and has a sensing

starship is traveling and has a sensing

starship is traveling and has a sensing horizon which is a term or a consider

horizon which is a term or a consider

horizon which is a term or a consider comes from robotics it can sense what’s

comes from robotics it can sense what’s

comes from robotics it can sense what’s coming up if what’s coming up is very

coming up if what’s coming up is very

coming up if what’s coming up is very similar to what was already happening

similar to what was already happening

similar to what was already happening it’ll grow if it’s very different it’ll

it’ll grow if it’s very different it’ll

it’ll grow if it’s very different it’ll start to evolve and this is a kind of

start to evolve and this is a kind of

start to evolve and this is a kind of concept that we’ve been developing now

concept that we’ve been developing now

concept that we’ve been developing now this is all very well but we can’t

this is all very well but we can’t

this is all very well but we can’t really build any starships yet so what

really build any starships yet so what

really build any starships yet so what are we going to do with these ideas and

are we going to do with these ideas and

are we going to do with these ideas and is this a beautiful study of series of

is this a beautiful study of series of

is this a beautiful study of series of studies done by carl sims in the 90s

studies done by carl sims in the 90s

studies done by carl sims in the 90s that showed me how they could be

that showed me how they could be

that showed me how they could be explored and what Carl Sims did was he

explored and what Carl Sims did was he

explored and what Carl Sims did was he evolved virtual creatures these are

evolved virtual creatures these are

evolved virtual creatures these are computer simulations in which virtual

computer simulations in which virtual

computer simulations in which virtual creatures are evolving a body morphology

creatures are evolving a body morphology

creatures are evolving a body morphology over time using genetic algorithms it’s

over time using genetic algorithms it’s

over time using genetic algorithms it’s like Darwinism and mathematics

like Darwinism and mathematics

like Darwinism and mathematics completely combined with each other and

completely combined with each other and

completely combined with each other and you see an evolution that otherwise you

you see an evolution that otherwise you

you see an evolution that otherwise you would never be able to predict and it is

would never be able to predict and it is

would never be able to predict and it is a very interesting technique and so

a very interesting technique and so

a very interesting technique and so we’re basically using a very similar

we’re basically using a very similar

we’re basically using a very similar technique and this is the model we’re

technique and this is the model we’re

technique and this is the model we’re currently developing we’re not done yet

currently developing we’re not done yet

currently developing we’re not done yet take an asteroid we like I said we click

take an asteroid we like I said we click

take an asteroid we like I said we click on the protostar ship we move the Astro

on the protostar ship we move the Astro

on the protostar ship we move the Astro to the front it becomes this shield

to the front it becomes this shield

to the front it becomes this shield so it’s an ablative shield if there’s

so it’s an ablative shield if there’s

so it’s an ablative shield if there’s any impacts in the front you lose a bit

any impacts in the front you lose a bit

any impacts in the front you lose a bit of your asteroid but your starship is

of your asteroid but your starship is

of your asteroid but your starship is safe and then we define a typology of

safe and then we define a typology of

safe and then we define a typology of modules for our architecture we have

modules for our architecture we have

modules for our architecture we have processing we have manufactured we have

processing we have manufactured we have

processing we have manufactured we have storage we have habitation and we have

storage we have habitation and we have

storage we have habitation and we have life-support and there are certain rules

life-support and there are certain rules

life-support and there are certain rules in which these modules can grow and this

in which these modules can grow and this

in which these modules can grow and this is the kind of architectural model that

is the kind of architectural model that

is the kind of architectural model that we’re currently developing and we’re

we’re currently developing and we’re

we’re currently developing and we’re really interested to see what will

really interested to see what will

really interested to see what will happen if we predefined a particular

happen if we predefined a particular

happen if we predefined a particular interstellar trip with all kinds of

interstellar trip with all kinds of

interstellar trip with all kinds of challenges and then to throw one of our

challenges and then to throw one of our

challenges and then to throw one of our designs into that simulation and see

designs into that simulation and see

designs into that simulation and see what happens during the journey it’s

what happens during the journey it’s

what happens during the journey it’s like self developing architecture now

like self developing architecture now

like self developing architecture now it’s always interesting when you talk

it’s always interesting when you talk

it’s always interesting when you talk about space too

about space too

about space too see how much you can learn from that

see how much you can learn from that

see how much you can learn from that exercise for Earth and I think when

exercise for Earth and I think when

exercise for Earth and I think when we’re dealing with uncertain futures it

we’re dealing with uncertain futures it

we’re dealing with uncertain futures it makes no sense to regress to static

makes no sense to regress to static

makes no sense to regress to static solutions from the past on the contrary

solutions from the past on the contrary

solutions from the past on the contrary I really believe we should embrace

I really believe we should embrace

I really believe we should embrace ongoing change uncertainty and we should

ongoing change uncertainty and we should

ongoing change uncertainty and we should really try to increase adaptability and

really try to increase adaptability and

really try to increase adaptability and nurture it and in the end I think we

nurture it and in the end I think we

nurture it and in the end I think we should let evolution be what it always

should let evolution be what it always

should let evolution be what it always has been best at an endless stream of

has been best at an endless stream of

has been best at an endless stream of ongoing change thank you

ongoing change thank you

ongoing change thank you [Applause]

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