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How I discovered the path to forgiveness and leadership | Jon White | TEDxBucharest


I am flying I mean it’s like a dream I’m

I am flying I mean it’s like a dream I’m flying through the air through the gray

flying through the air through the gray

flying through the air through the gray dawn sky and ethnics gone into slow

dawn sky and ethnics gone into slow

dawn sky and ethnics gone into slow motion and I’m thinking oh god it’s me

motion and I’m thinking oh god it’s me

motion and I’m thinking oh god it’s me this is how I remember stepping on a

this is how I remember stepping on a

this is how I remember stepping on a bomb in Afghanistan six years ago it

bomb in Afghanistan six years ago it

bomb in Afghanistan six years ago it left me missing three limbs both legs

left me missing three limbs both legs

left me missing three limbs both legs above the knee and my right arm at the

above the knee and my right arm at the

above the knee and my right arm at the elbow but I was just happy to be alive

elbow but I was just happy to be alive

elbow but I was just happy to be alive so who did this to me then I don’t

so who did this to me then I don’t

so who did this to me then I don’t exactly know that this guy was probably

exactly know that this guy was probably

exactly know that this guy was probably involved Mike mid/side he was the local

involved Mike mid/side he was the local

involved Mike mid/side he was the local bomb supplier in our area of operations

bomb supplier in our area of operations

bomb supplier in our area of operations in Salem I’d met him I took this

in Salem I’d met him I took this

in Salem I’d met him I took this photograph but I never had sufficient

photograph but I never had sufficient

photograph but I never had sufficient evidence to arrest him there was also

evidence to arrest him there was also

evidence to arrest him there was also our underperforming commanding officer

our underperforming commanding officer

our underperforming commanding officer at the time of the incident I had

at the time of the incident I had

at the time of the incident I had already written my letter of resignation

already written my letter of resignation

already written my letter of resignation citing his total failure and leadership

citing his total failure and leadership

citing his total failure and leadership as my reason I’d intended to hand it to

as my reason I’d intended to hand it to

as my reason I’d intended to hand it to his boss but I never got the opportunity

his boss but I never got the opportunity

his boss but I never got the opportunity so these were the two men that I could

so these were the two men that I could

so these were the two men that I could blame and focus my anger towards what

blame and focus my anger towards what

blame and focus my anger towards what led me to that moment well it started

led me to that moment well it started

led me to that moment well it started with inspiration as a young teenager

with inspiration as a young teenager

with inspiration as a young teenager meeting a handful of raw Marines

meeting a handful of raw Marines

meeting a handful of raw Marines officers who were confident intelligent

officers who were confident intelligent

officers who were confident intelligent and adventurous always full of exciting

and adventurous always full of exciting

and adventurous always full of exciting stories and insightful views on the

stories and insightful views on the

stories and insightful views on the latest news this is what I aspired to be

latest news this is what I aspired to be

latest news this is what I aspired to be but inspiration turned to devastation

but inspiration turned to devastation

but inspiration turned to devastation when as a 17 year old I failed the

when as a 17 year old I failed the

when as a 17 year old I failed the selection process I took it as a

selection process I took it as a

selection process I took it as a personal insult they did not want me but

personal insult they did not want me but

personal insult they did not want me but as I recovered I realized there was

as I recovered I realized there was

as I recovered I realized there was nothing personal about it I had simply

nothing personal about it I had simply

nothing personal about it I had simply failed to make the grade so with

failed to make the grade so with

failed to make the grade so with determination I reapplied taking the

determination I reapplied taking the

determination I reapplied taking the opportunity to grow from my failure

opportunity to grow from my failure

opportunity to grow from my failure better preparing myself

better preparing myself

better preparing myself and succeeding the thing about this

and succeeding the thing about this

and succeeding the thing about this career path is that every time you

career path is that every time you

career path is that every time you succeed you just find yourself on an

succeed you just find yourself on an

succeed you just find yourself on an even more challenging journey success on

even more challenging journey success on

even more challenging journey success on applying men I then had to complete the

applying men I then had to complete the

applying men I then had to complete the 12-month rule Marines commando young

12-month rule Marines commando young

12-month rule Marines commando young officer training course the course is

officer training course the course is

officer training course the course is far more intense and 50 times longer

far more intense and 50 times longer

far more intense and 50 times longer than the entry assessments I was just 19

than the entry assessments I was just 19

than the entry assessments I was just 19 the majority of my peers were between 2

the majority of my peers were between 2

the majority of my peers were between 2 and 6 years older than me and this was

and 6 years older than me and this was

and 6 years older than me and this was the ultimate alpha male environment so

the ultimate alpha male environment so

the ultimate alpha male environment so it was no surprise that I struggled I

it was no surprise that I struggled I

it was no surprise that I struggled I seem to be constantly on the edge of

seem to be constantly on the edge of

seem to be constantly on the edge of failure any talent I thought I had in me

failure any talent I thought I had in me

failure any talent I thought I had in me just seemed to disappear but I did have

just seemed to disappear but I did have

just seemed to disappear but I did have determination and that just proved

determination and that just proved

determination and that just proved enough I found some talent and I grew

enough I found some talent and I grew

enough I found some talent and I grew but my regular struggles ensured that

but my regular struggles ensured that

but my regular struggles ensured that that talent grew steadily and my core

that talent grew steadily and my core

that talent grew steadily and my core spirit grew strong my performance

spirit grew strong my performance

spirit grew strong my performance reviews improved and I completed tougher

reviews improved and I completed tougher

reviews improved and I completed tougher courses the great thing about my

courses the great thing about my

courses the great thing about my struggles were that they kept me humble

struggles were that they kept me humble

struggles were that they kept me humble and this really helped me as a leader

and this really helped me as a leader

and this really helped me as a leader you see I was just 20 years old and in

you see I was just 20 years old and in

you see I was just 20 years old and in command of 30 Royal Marines between the

command of 30 Royal Marines between the

command of 30 Royal Marines between the ages of 17 and 37 they were all

ages of 17 and 37 they were all

ages of 17 and 37 they were all specialist drivers and I was responsible

specialist drivers and I was responsible

specialist drivers and I was responsible for the 18 vehicles they drove to I did

for the 18 vehicles they drove to I did

for the 18 vehicles they drove to I did not have a clue what I was doing and I

not have a clue what I was doing and I

not have a clue what I was doing and I knew there was no way of fooling them

knew there was no way of fooling them

knew there was no way of fooling them into thinking that I did my solution was

into thinking that I did my solution was

into thinking that I did my solution was simple though I admitted to them that I

simple though I admitted to them that I

simple though I admitted to them that I was clueless but showed them I was

was clueless but showed them I was

was clueless but showed them I was willing to learn I would ask anyone for

willing to learn I would ask anyone for

willing to learn I would ask anyone for advice mainly letting my most

advice mainly letting my most

advice mainly letting my most experienced colleagues lead my judgments

experienced colleagues lead my judgments

experienced colleagues lead my judgments though what I discovered was that people

though what I discovered was that people

though what I discovered was that people work far harder to execute a plan when

work far harder to execute a plan when

work far harder to execute a plan when they are directly involved in the

they are directly involved in the

they are directly involved in the planning and that success is best when

planning and that success is best when

planning and that success is best when shared we all benefited equally one of

shared we all benefited equally one of

shared we all benefited equally one of those men came to visit me when I was in

those men came to visit me when I was in

those men came to visit me when I was in hospital last year after 12 years of not

hospital last year after 12 years of not

hospital last year after 12 years of not working with me he decided to look me

working with me he decided to look me

working with me he decided to look me and go out of his way just to say hello

and go out of his way just to say hello

and go out of his way just to say hello I felt honored but more so I felt pride

I felt honored but more so I felt pride

I felt honored but more so I felt pride when hearing his story how after leaving

when hearing his story how after leaving

when hearing his story how after leaving the Marines he had had to resort to

the Marines he had had to resort to

the Marines he had had to resort to sweeping a warehouse floor for work but

sweeping a warehouse floor for work but

sweeping a warehouse floor for work but within that small family-run business he

within that small family-run business he

within that small family-run business he took every little opportunity and within

took every little opportunity and within

took every little opportunity and within five years had made it to the highest

five years had made it to the highest

five years had made it to the highest possible level for a non family member

possible level for a non family member

possible level for a non family member and from there was able to successfully

and from there was able to successfully

and from there was able to successfully apply for a role as a Sales Director in

apply for a role as a Sales Director in

apply for a role as a Sales Director in a different business he’s doing really

a different business he’s doing really

a different business he’s doing really well now through humility and

well now through humility and

well now through humility and determination so what do you need when

determination so what do you need when

determination so what do you need when you’re lying on the desert floor missing

you’re lying on the desert floor missing

you’re lying on the desert floor missing three limbs the first thing you need is

three limbs the first thing you need is

three limbs the first thing you need is faith not in a higher being

faith not in a higher being

faith not in a higher being but in yourself and in the human beings

but in yourself and in the human beings

but in yourself and in the human beings around you those beings are far higher

around you those beings are far higher

around you those beings are far higher than we typically give them credit for

than we typically give them credit for

than we typically give them credit for be under no illusion I should have died

be under no illusion I should have died

be under no illusion I should have died that day my job was simple at the time I

that day my job was simple at the time I

that day my job was simple at the time I just had to hold on their job though

just had to hold on their job though

just had to hold on their job though that was a different question and

that was a different question and

that was a different question and miracle was asked of them and a miracle

miracle was asked of them and a miracle

miracle was asked of them and a miracle they delivered this episode truly

they delivered this episode truly

they delivered this episode truly confirmed what I’ve always suspected

confirmed what I’ve always suspected

confirmed what I’ve always suspected that we massively underestimate humans

that we massively underestimate humans

that we massively underestimate humans in the human body my body allowed me to

in the human body my body allowed me to

in the human body my body allowed me to stay alert even make jokes at least for

stay alert even make jokes at least for

stay alert even make jokes at least for the first 30 minutes after the explosion

the first 30 minutes after the explosion

the first 30 minutes after the explosion although I have to say after 40 minutes

although I have to say after 40 minutes

although I have to say after 40 minutes when they loaded me onto the evacuation

when they loaded me onto the evacuation

when they loaded me onto the evacuation helicopter I was crying

helicopter I was crying

helicopter I was crying literally begging to be put to sleep I

felt when I woke up to day three days

felt when I woke up to day three days later back in the UK that I only had two

later back in the UK that I only had two

later back in the UK that I only had two choices

choices

choices I could either roll over and die or I

I could either roll over and die or I

I could either roll over and die or I could get up and get on with life so

could get up and get on with life so

could get up and get on with life so with the help and my girlfriend my

with the help and my girlfriend my

with the help and my girlfriend my family and my friends that’s exactly

family and my friends that’s exactly

family and my friends that’s exactly what I decided to do I was discharged

what I decided to do I was discharged

what I decided to do I was discharged from hospital after just 27 nights

from hospital after just 27 nights

from hospital after just 27 nights nine weeks post-injury I was wearing

nine weeks post-injury I was wearing

nine weeks post-injury I was wearing basic prosthetics by nine months I was

basic prosthetics by nine months I was

basic prosthetics by nine months I was becoming proficient on prosthetic legs

becoming proficient on prosthetic legs

becoming proficient on prosthetic legs similar to the ones you see me wearing

similar to the ones you see me wearing

similar to the ones you see me wearing today and twelve months and three days

today and twelve months and three days

today and twelve months and three days after the explosion I stopped using a

after the explosion I stopped using a

after the explosion I stopped using a wheelchair I had goals all the way just

wheelchair I had goals all the way just

wheelchair I had goals all the way just little ones that I could reach but by

little ones that I could reach but by

little ones that I could reach but by that stage I needed something bigger to

that stage I needed something bigger to

that stage I needed something bigger to set my sights on I came up with two

set my sights on I came up with two

set my sights on I came up with two ideas firstly to complete the devices to

ideas firstly to complete the devices to

ideas firstly to complete the devices to westminster quiet grace a bucket-list

westminster quiet grace a bucket-list

westminster quiet grace a bucket-list event that I had never got around to

event that I had never got around to

event that I had never got around to doing and secondly to build my own home

doing and secondly to build my own home

doing and secondly to build my own home both felt like big targets the kayak

both felt like big targets the kayak

both felt like big targets the kayak race is 200 kilometers long and to be

race is 200 kilometers long and to be

race is 200 kilometers long and to be done in one go over Easter weekend I

done in one go over Easter weekend I

done in one go over Easter weekend I only have one arm intact and I’d already

only have one arm intact and I’d already

only have one arm intact and I’d already had a shoulder reconstruction on that

had a shoulder reconstruction on that

had a shoulder reconstruction on that and Becks who was now my wife and

and Becks who was now my wife and

and Becks who was now my wife and planned to partner me in the race had

planned to partner me in the race had

planned to partner me in the race had never even cried before so the race felt

never even cried before so the race felt

never even cried before so the race felt stupidly challenging perfect the house

stupidly challenging perfect the house

stupidly challenging perfect the house well I simply had no experience of

well I simply had no experience of

well I simply had no experience of building I just didn’t know where to

building I just didn’t know where to

building I just didn’t know where to start training for the race was

start training for the race was

start training for the race was disturbed happily bets fell pregnant so

disturbed happily bets fell pregnant so

disturbed happily bets fell pregnant so a good friend and colleague Leigh waters

a good friend and colleague Leigh waters

a good friend and colleague Leigh waters jumped in the boat with me with just six

jumped in the boat with me with just six

jumped in the boat with me with just six weeks to go and we turned up on the race

weeks to go and we turned up on the race

weeks to go and we turned up on the race start line having only completed a

start line having only completed a

start line having only completed a hundred and ninety kilometers total

hundred and ninety kilometers total

hundred and ninety kilometers total training together

training together

training together remember the races 200 kilometers long

remember the races 200 kilometers long

remember the races 200 kilometers long but we just went for it with a big

but we just went for it with a big

but we just went for it with a big support crew and the day went well after

support crew and the day went well after

support crew and the day went well after 12 hours we were on target but as the

12 hours we were on target but as the

12 hours we were on target but as the evening drew in our pace slowed

evening drew in our pace slowed

evening drew in our pace slowed drastically and by midnight we were

drastically and by midnight we were

drastically and by midnight we were informed there was no way we could meet

informed there was no way we could meet

informed there was no way we could meet our 8:00 a.m. cutoff for a critical

our 8:00 a.m. cutoff for a critical

our 8:00 a.m. cutoff for a critical checkpoint anger set in and we ignored

checkpoint anger set in and we ignored

checkpoint anger set in and we ignored everyone for the next eight hours we

everyone for the next eight hours we

everyone for the next eight hours we increased our pace from six kilometers

increased our pace from six kilometers

increased our pace from six kilometers an hour to nine kilometers an hour and

an hour to nine kilometers an hour and

an hour to nine kilometers an hour and we scraped in we finished the race in

we scraped in we finished the race in

we scraped in we finished the race in twenty eight and a half hours achieving

twenty eight and a half hours achieving

twenty eight and a half hours achieving the impossible dream we did so by

the impossible dream we did so by

the impossible dream we did so by applying the three rules of kayaking

applying the three rules of kayaking

applying the three rules of kayaking rule one keep paddling Rule two

rule one keep paddling Rule two

rule one keep paddling Rule two you keep cool and rule three

you keep cool and rule three

you keep cool and rule three happens when it does refer to rule

happens when it does refer to rule

happens when it does refer to rule 1

ladies and gentlemen those rules have

ladies and gentlemen those rules have not just got me through that kayaking

not just got me through that kayaking

not just got me through that kayaking race they’ve got me through my life this

race they’ve got me through my life this

race they’ve got me through my life this far I simply changed the word paddling

far I simply changed the word paddling

far I simply changed the word paddling for going keep going keep cool and

for going keep going keep cool and

for going keep going keep cool and happens when it does keep going the

happens when it does keep going the

happens when it does keep going the house was a very different challenge the

house was a very different challenge the

house was a very different challenge the aim was clear build a house that I and

aim was clear build a house that I and

aim was clear build a house that I and my now growing family could live in for

my now growing family could live in for

my now growing family could live in for the rest of my life we had the money we

the rest of my life we had the money we

the rest of my life we had the money we had the budget we found a plot of land

had the budget we found a plot of land

had the budget we found a plot of land and with my oldest friend who was

and with my oldest friend who was

and with my oldest friend who was training to be an architect we designed

training to be an architect we designed

training to be an architect we designed the house over to me to deliver the

the house over to me to deliver the

the house over to me to deliver the project then as I’ve already said I had

project then as I’ve already said I had

project then as I’ve already said I had absolutely no idea what I was doing

absolutely no idea what I was doing

absolutely no idea what I was doing whatsoever luckily I found some support

whatsoever luckily I found some support

whatsoever luckily I found some support from a couple of big and generous

from a couple of big and generous

from a couple of big and generous companies but it was still tough quite

companies but it was still tough quite

companies but it was still tough quite simply the most sustained period of

simply the most sustained period of

simply the most sustained period of stress ever in my life the budget

stress ever in my life the budget

stress ever in my life the budget spiraled the completion date slipped and

spiraled the completion date slipped and

spiraled the completion date slipped and the result was beyond my dreams not just

the result was beyond my dreams not just

the result was beyond my dreams not just in terms of the physical result of the

in terms of the physical result of the

in terms of the physical result of the house yes it is lovely but in terms of

house yes it is lovely but in terms of

house yes it is lovely but in terms of the confidence the project gave me it

the confidence the project gave me it

the confidence the project gave me it made me realize there was more to me

made me realize there was more to me

made me realize there was more to me than just being able to keep going

than just being able to keep going

than just being able to keep going through difficult physical challenges or

through difficult physical challenges or

through difficult physical challenges or coordinate military maneuvers you see

coordinate military maneuvers you see

coordinate military maneuvers you see I’d actually thought about leaving the

I’d actually thought about leaving the

I’d actually thought about leaving the Marines before my final tour but I

Marines before my final tour but I

Marines before my final tour but I didn’t think I had the necessary skills

didn’t think I had the necessary skills

didn’t think I had the necessary skills or education to do it to make it in the

or education to do it to make it in the

or education to do it to make it in the civilian world I was too afraid fear had

civilian world I was too afraid fear had

civilian world I was too afraid fear had kept me in this dangerous job on leaving

kept me in this dangerous job on leaving

kept me in this dangerous job on leaving the Marines a friend of mine invited me

the Marines a friend of mine invited me

the Marines a friend of mine invited me to do some leadership consulting and I

to do some leadership consulting and I

to do some leadership consulting and I found a new passion leadership was the

found a new passion leadership was the

found a new passion leadership was the part of my job in the Marines that I got

part of my job in the Marines that I got

part of my job in the Marines that I got the greatest satisfaction from and for

the greatest satisfaction from and for

the greatest satisfaction from and for me it wasn’t about being a skillful

me it wasn’t about being a skillful

me it wasn’t about being a skillful communicator or a clever manager it was

communicator or a clever manager it was

communicator or a clever manager it was simply about caring for my teams and

simply about caring for my teams and

simply about caring for my teams and enjoy watching them succeed just doing

enjoy watching them succeed just doing

enjoy watching them succeed just doing my bit to help them along my passion for

my bit to help them along my passion for

my bit to help them along my passion for this work was also fueled by the anger I

this work was also fueled by the anger I

this work was also fueled by the anger I mentioned earlier

mentioned earlier

mentioned earlier at my former commanding officer who in

at my former commanding officer who in

at my former commanding officer who in my eyes had missed this basic point

my eyes had missed this basic point

my eyes had missed this basic point about leadership so I set out on a

about leadership so I set out on a

about leadership so I set out on a journey to inspire a better leadership

journey to inspire a better leadership

journey to inspire a better leadership my concept is simple care about your

my concept is simple care about your

my concept is simple care about your people and dedicate your performance to

people and dedicate your performance to

people and dedicate your performance to helping them but Who am I to judge this

helping them but Who am I to judge this

helping them but Who am I to judge this I’m just John White no one’s ever heard

I’m just John White no one’s ever heard

I’m just John White no one’s ever heard of me so I decided to write a book as a

of me so I decided to write a book as a

of me so I decided to write a book as a research project it’s not complete yet

research project it’s not complete yet

research project it’s not complete yet by being lucky enough to interview five

by being lucky enough to interview five

by being lucky enough to interview five great leaders including Kofi Annan two

great leaders including Kofi Annan two

great leaders including Kofi Annan two four-star generals and two successful

four-star generals and two successful

four-star generals and two successful business leaders I’m still looking for

business leaders I’m still looking for

business leaders I’m still looking for seven more people to interview by the

seven more people to interview by the

seven more people to interview by the way my aim is simple I want to interview

way my aim is simple I want to interview

way my aim is simple I want to interview a wide range of leaders and just show

a wide range of leaders and just show

a wide range of leaders and just show regular people what is possible the

regular people what is possible the

regular people what is possible the first theme to come out of the interview

first theme to come out of the interview

first theme to come out of the interview so far it’s just how human all of these

so far it’s just how human all of these

so far it’s just how human all of these leaders are they all have and continue

leaders are they all have and continue

leaders are they all have and continue to make mistakes

to make mistakes

to make mistakes whether it be in career planning or the

whether it be in career planning or the

whether it be in career planning or the execution of their roles they are human

execution of their roles they are human

execution of their roles they are human they do learn from their mistakes though

they do learn from their mistakes though

they do learn from their mistakes though the second common theme I want to share

the second common theme I want to share

the second common theme I want to share with you is their sense of

with you is their sense of

with you is their sense of responsibility all of them have had a

responsibility all of them have had a

responsibility all of them have had a shift in motivation over the course of

shift in motivation over the course of

shift in motivation over the course of their careers whether this be an

their careers whether this be an

their careers whether this be an epiphany at a specific point or an

epiphany at a specific point or an

epiphany at a specific point or an evolution all of their motivations have

evolution all of their motivations have

evolution all of their motivations have shifted from themselves to the people

shifted from themselves to the people

shifted from themselves to the people they work for be it the organization or

they work for be it the organization or

they work for be it the organization or the customers or both in Kofi Annan’s

the customers or both in Kofi Annan’s

the customers or both in Kofi Annan’s case his customers are the world’s

case his customers are the world’s

case his customers are the world’s population so he quite literally feels

population so he quite literally feels

population so he quite literally feels the way to the world on his shoulders

the way to the world on his shoulders

the way to the world on his shoulders and that is why now in his 70s he’s

and that is why now in his 70s he’s

and that is why now in his 70s he’s still working hard to make the world a

still working hard to make the world a

still working hard to make the world a better place the final common theme I

better place the final common theme I

better place the final common theme I want to share with you from the

want to share with you from the

want to share with you from the interview so far it’s that optimistic

interview so far it’s that optimistic

interview so far it’s that optimistic and forgiving nature all of them are

and forgiving nature all of them are

and forgiving nature all of them are noted for their lack of anger most of

noted for their lack of anger most of

noted for their lack of anger most of them have been criticized at times for

them have been criticized at times for

them have been criticized at times for not sacking people early enough and this

not sacking people early enough and this

not sacking people early enough and this is all down to their power for

is all down to their power for

is all down to their power for forgiveness I’m going to

forgiveness I’m going to

forgiveness I’m going to Admiral Sir George lamb boluses

Admiral Sir George lamb boluses

Admiral Sir George lamb boluses definition for leadership here

definition for leadership here

definition for leadership here he calls it transferred belief the

he calls it transferred belief the

he calls it transferred belief the belief that I want to transfer to you

belief that I want to transfer to you

belief that I want to transfer to you today is the power of forgiveness I told

today is the power of forgiveness I told

today is the power of forgiveness I told you how I use my anger at two men to

you how I use my anger at two men to

you how I use my anger at two men to fuel my drive initially and whilst I got

fuel my drive initially and whilst I got

fuel my drive initially and whilst I got a lot done very quickly using this the

a lot done very quickly using this the

a lot done very quickly using this the issue was that that anger was also

issue was that that anger was also

issue was that that anger was also slowly eating away at me

slowly eating away at me

slowly eating away at me it was using energy that I needed in

it was using energy that I needed in

it was using energy that I needed in other parts of my life

other parts of my life

other parts of my life it was stopping me from thinking freely

it was stopping me from thinking freely

it was stopping me from thinking freely and creatively and my life just got to a

and creatively and my life just got to a

and creatively and my life just got to a point where it didn’t make sense to be

point where it didn’t make sense to be

point where it didn’t make sense to be angry at them anymore being angry at

angry at them anymore being angry at

angry at them anymore being angry at them suggested I wanted my life to be

them suggested I wanted my life to be

them suggested I wanted my life to be different that I didn’t want my wife my

different that I didn’t want my wife my

different that I didn’t want my wife my house my children or my newfound passion

house my children or my newfound passion

house my children or my newfound passion for my work so I realized I had to

for my work so I realized I had to

for my work so I realized I had to forgive them and I can tell you now that

forgive them and I can tell you now that

forgive them and I can tell you now that I hold no resentment against those two

I hold no resentment against those two

I hold no resentment against those two men whatsoever in fact I am actually

men whatsoever in fact I am actually

men whatsoever in fact I am actually grateful for what they have done for me

grateful for what they have done for me

grateful for what they have done for me I recently had a further revelation

I recently had a further revelation

I recently had a further revelation though whilst helping a friend with a

though whilst helping a friend with a

though whilst helping a friend with a personal issue she wanted to talk to an

personal issue she wanted to talk to an

personal issue she wanted to talk to an ex-partner because she felt she had

ex-partner because she felt she had

ex-partner because she felt she had unfinished business in her mind as we

unfinished business in her mind as we

unfinished business in her mind as we explored what she wanted to achieve by

explored what she wanted to achieve by

explored what she wanted to achieve by talking to him forgiveness came up she

talking to him forgiveness came up she

talking to him forgiveness came up she wanted to forgive him I pointed out that

wanted to forgive him I pointed out that

wanted to forgive him I pointed out that if he had not taken responsibility for

if he had not taken responsibility for

if he had not taken responsibility for what had happened then forgiving him

what had happened then forgiving him

what had happened then forgiving him would simply be taken as an accusation

would simply be taken as an accusation

would simply be taken as an accusation and as we explored further we realized

and as we explored further we realized

and as we explored further we realized she actually needed to forgive herself a

she actually needed to forgive herself a

she actually needed to forgive herself a tear came to my eye at that moment

tear came to my eye at that moment

tear came to my eye at that moment because the concept resonated with me I

because the concept resonated with me I

because the concept resonated with me I was still partly anchored by my own past

was still partly anchored by my own past

was still partly anchored by my own past as much as forgiving these men felt good

as much as forgiving these men felt good

as much as forgiving these men felt good and it was good it did release me a

and it was good it did release me a

and it was good it did release me a great deal it was not wholly healing I

great deal it was not wholly healing I

great deal it was not wholly healing I was still kind of using them as

was still kind of using them as

was still kind of using them as distractions and excuses

to sleep at night it is only our own

to sleep at night it is only our own conscience that must be clear no one

conscience that must be clear no one

conscience that must be clear no one else is and this was the moment when I

else is and this was the moment when I

else is and this was the moment when I realized that I had to take

realized that I had to take

realized that I had to take responsibility for my past I had to

responsibility for my past I had to

responsibility for my past I had to forgive myself and thank myself in order

forgive myself and thank myself in order

forgive myself and thank myself in order to be happy with myself

to be happy with myself

to be happy with myself and live a life that feels meaningful to

and live a life that feels meaningful to

and live a life that feels meaningful to me Maude Smith

me Maude Smith

me Maude Smith [Applause]

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