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Gefühltes Alter als fließende Produktivitätsgrenze in der Arbeitswelt | Florian Kunze | TEDxBodensee


thank you very much

Welcome also from mine

I am very happy to be here today

to be with them just like

come straight to the topic of aging in the

this is my big job

research topic with me

I’m burning for that

but wants to still to come then,

come or take a little trip

I want to take with them

start in outer space and in the

space where currently the flying object

is created by humans that am

farthest from us

what we see here is the voyager 2

probe which is 21 billion kilometers

currently 21 billion away from us

kilometer that is already a whole

nice time on the road and that is now

just in the concept of our solar system

to leave

that is a huge success story

Space travel that this probe so long

is on the way and research data us

provides information from this region

huge success story all over

Aerospace and that’s just so far

come off because it’s pretty

For a long time there has been this mission

started almost 40 years ago

exactly 40 years ago ie end of august

at the beginning of september are the two people

but sent out in space

been

originally one had thought the

Sun only five years that is fly

five years then will nowhere

space burn up

but they still fly on and on

Now here they almost have ours

heliosphere means ours

Solar system always leave fly

someday they will eventually

also to an extraterrestrial life

so come sunbathe

equipped is a record there

Greetings in 55 languages ​​from the world

recorded 33 songs at the time

at the end of the seventies at that time in delusion the

the extraterrestrial meat bit something

want to get across what at least in

the seventies so in the world that

with is very exciting story so

great project super successful

NASA project of American

aerospace organizations technical

Huge success that still

it probably works the same way

10 years to go on

even more exciting, especially for me

for my research as management

but an organization researcher is

that there are also people behind it and

the interesting thing is that is still

the same people for the most part with

We started seeing this project

the eps sound that is still the

Head of mission today 76 years old

the 1977 started these two

bask in the sunshine near by

angeles

in one in a center of nasa too

control

that means someone also this team

on the road that these suns controls the

do that with the technology of

then at that time totally high tech here

Personal computer at that time straight on brand

Of course today come total slodczyk

is the great and this is important that

not only this technique works

but also that these people this

team still works so well and also

is absolutely necessary to this technique

to control

If you see this is larry sugar

Berlin

this is the programmer of this mission

already 76 years and that is the

the only one in the near to be still

the programming language speaks and

can operate to control these suns

to control the course

that means extremely important knowledge of

these people still every day

come to the office for this mission

conduct

So a great example for now

also little to the theme of stoxx out

conducts work in the workplace

aging in the workplace how are we going

that is, of course, that’s natural

already an extreme example, of course,

also an extremely positive example like

the people can work well

even beyond the use limit of 65

continue to work beyond motivated

are enthusiastic and part and

at the same time something important

for the organization of the

company they work for

contribute a great example to that

could be that even such a

little look into the future

Pension age is always here after

pushed out the back

but overall this is mine

view also necessary but we see that

also just as a reality in the

the working population becomes easy

older can you see now have

I pay you a little bit

Germany brought 1997 to 2014

is a bit cut off though

dark blue bar that is 2014

participation in various

in different age groups we were

can see most of what happens here

from me on the left side of

on the right side in the

oldest age groups that strengthens her

the participation rate increases quite a bit

strong 50 to 60 to 65 has the

It’s more than double 55 to 60

also increased significantly means here

we see a strong change and

also the average age of

world population germany switzerland

but also in many other western ones

industry parents is rising

39 to 43 and that will be safe in the future

still pretty much increase

that is not just for the

nasa somehow a thing that is for

many companies in Germany but

also in the Bodenseeregion also small

and medium-sized companies

that’s a big topic how are we going

in order for our workforce to get older

becomes and at the same time personally

How can we do anything else?

Contribute to projects as we get older

maybe we’ll work until age 65

if some of them maybe too

that’s about working beyond 65

the big issue was me very much

interested in me for a long time

I have been working on it for a long time now

over 11 years this is my main

research topic to which I already many

publications studies have done with

Companies here in the region but also in the

but also worldwide

other researchers are also working on this and

the big question is here now

why does that work in some places?

film or for some individuals like that

well as we do in the nasa example

People have been scary

productive are enthusiastic from 45 years

maybe theirs

Performance of their motivation

even up

the other remains relatively stable

but at some

and that’s what you’re like

Often type victims what the society

Also many movies as the red head

the productivity goes

motivation down

that’s what we if we as a

There are also great studies

meta-analyzes different studies

summarize studies what you see there

we have a relatively large one

fluctuations between individuals so

some can cope well here

These nasa beust that make that great

for others it ‘s pretty fast

and I can not make it up

to use limit how can we

explain that

that’s the motivation, so to speak

But my research there because close

in front of him with my team in constancy to

how can we explain that and one

main thesis I have and that is also

what I am today in the center of one

wanting to talk is that it’s a lot

has to do with the attitude to old

so that many and they can

maybe even short yourself

Imagine a strong discrepancy

have a deviation between that

how old I sort of pass in my passport

am and how old I feel today

that could be an explanation

I will explain further how

we can explain that some people and

stay productive too

stay physically fit and others

maybe that means stronger

subjective old age attitudes

age identity may be

a big role and how can you do that

How do I influence the topic?

always get that as often

researcher does in my

research area that this

organization and management of researchers was

there are numerous still had nothing to

none yet what to do there I watch

other research area times pure

is trying a bit too

to be inspired

then I’m in one more

research area is close

if you have dealt with age

that gerontological research is

right the right age research the

to deal with very old people

and how beautiful they are, too

can have in higher age

there is a super exciting study

the name is counter klopp white

Studies turn back the clock

which was written by a gerontologist and

social psychologist ellenlangen in the

harvard university usa

already at the end of the seventies

and what made them very much

exciting experiment that has classes

experiment two groups formed one

trial group a control group and

in the trial group she has for one

Group of I believe twelve people

try for a week the time

Turn back 20 years that is

that was with this test person

they were made into such an external one

Retreat brought in such a monastery in sun

a remote house and there was a

Setting created as if it were 20 years

previously 179 back to 959

that means there was only music played

from 20 years ago only able to newspaper

from 20 years ago

Each of the participants had one

Write a resume 20 years ago

ends

the other parts only take pictures

before from the other war for the 20

years younger were the experimenter

made sure they over

Topics discussed 20 years ago

other control group also people the

all over 70 were wounded

was partially recruited

also brought to ried for a week

were also spotted but not with

this specific treatment that the

time was turned back then what

happened and that is super exciting

in this experiment you have both

of the cognitive abilities so

intelligence test that’s better before

but after become particularly on

physiological skills are better

become

so what the agility finger length

so very important measure if you like that

with older people research is

Run skillfully all that has

statistically significant in this

trial group where the time

was turned back by this

Context also improves external

proven have photos of these

persons rated younger than

at the control group

So very exciting because I’ve read

build that is super exciting

the context in which these people are

move

even something like that changes

physiological physical measurements

Cognitive ability can be said yes

now also for the working world is so

not so interesting that he only too much

old people carried out there is there

perhaps even more potential which

rauszuholen is another study that

also changed the context and that

is a study in the field of

priming research like the classical one

is done in social-psychological

area with very young people

So it was done here

average age not like over

70 but 22 23 years and that’s one

study quite simple experiment too

again try control group where the

Participants can take on students

university sentences had to form out

words in the given task you

had to form sentences in the

They had to form teams in the trial group

with old stereotyped words

So something like old slowly forgetful

so everything in the bingo florida

usa with age also negatively associated

becomes

was accidentally leaked to them and

they had to sit on it

The control group must also form sentences

so innocuous words then what

it was made that you see here

are then out of your test room

went out went down the hall

and then it stopped like fast

the corridors under which you go

then look here too in this chart

the group represented with these

age serotypes rebounded affected

was going much slower though the

a very young

as the group did not pass through

that would also affect here

another story but similar again

the setting in which we move

we are somehow influenced as we are

behave as we move

I read both super spans

because that is very interesting

what does that mean for mine now?

concrete research what does that mean for

the world of work what does that mean?

Organizations, it is similar to that

the context in which I work in the

I move in, I also

spend much of my life time

has an influence on how old I am

It feels and affects me too

behavior that means what do we have

we made the study

carried out by yourself

Over 100 German companies 15,000

People interviewed quite a big study

Various things queried but under

We also have this question

how old do they feel?

actually independent of her

chronological age ie at the time

now that I would have to ask her

you give a number how old you feel

she is independent of her

We have that chronological age

evaluated and what do we see there

see chronological old man is

still pretty young that’s the only one

age group on average where the

people slightly older lead from 25 to

25 years young people feel

maybe a bit tending

older you try so to speak

maybe experiences compensate the

accumulates when we go down here

at the old one has the younger one feels

that means we arrive here then

Group 50 to 65 on average of

These 50 thousand people will be there

Report that you are more than eight

years younger than you really lead

chronological age first great

exciting which is also very interesting

there were also differences between

female surveyed and male us

have seen that female interrogated

significantly in minus 5.65 years as

the male surveyed 49 5 years

be comes naturally that the

Women really involved her

younger are also perceived as such

or of course that’s the stronger one

Social social pressure there

also for female employees in

To lead this temple the boy

only times already great tension that is

this big difference gives me something

but now as an organization as

management research much stronger

there are interested in examines

these differences also differ

companies between organizations the

As we said in this temple we have

100 organizations 100 companies there

in there and then it gets really exciting

at least for me what we saw there

we have had at these 100

organizations which where the

employees on average eight months

feeling younger means that is relatively

Small deviate from all staff

away in the organization in others

Businesses are eight years old

felt younger

that is a massive gap between

These organizations look older

or we feel younger

went on and looked at that

also relevant to the organization

and then have that in connection with

the efficiency of this

Organization and what we do that

then see it simplified here for you

it is shown that we see the

Company where the employees

feel younger are on average 10

percent more successful and that

chronological age of the employee

that even in these studies with us in it

then it just does not play any

more

other study not published but

We have the very latest data

same again with misconduct

made at the big swiss

company here

there we saw that the wrong times

rate even fluctuates by almost 40 percent

between those here on the one in this one

hall teams where the employees

where they feel old and young

turn the chronological age plays

then no role

So also very impressive results

that really does seem really

may have relevance

But what does that mean first?

once for organizations from my

sight that means and that’s a lot

exciting implication that this whole

discussion of demographic change

The city ​​may find work

It is completely wrong to think it works

not around this

illogical age which in many

staff almost inevitably

rises but it goes more and more

this subjective perceived this

age the age of the

employee and that should be mine

view in companies rather the

foreground

on the one hand , employees would be hired

that you are quite older

Employees 40 50 plus can adjust

if this is the appropriate setting

they are very strong on theirs

chronological age may differ

also for career decisions

organizations where we still see today

from 50 years even 45 will be the people

no more training is sent

no career prospects at all

more you have to differentiate very much

that is very much motivated

ambitious innovative older

employed aging workers

There is also something for everyone

personally

that’s another exciting thing the

we have found here is one

very strong role for that

felt age if you want a meaningful

have meaningful activities pursues

we also saw what we did in the study

have seen that those in

to work for a company where you think

you make something meaningful by 33%

feel younger than those who do that

do not do that and that’s why

personally for all of you

also, so to speak, the main fair the kiki

bay

look at a young age

especially in the middle and older

actually for all

Age groups that find their job

she is excited for her with her

Look for them for burning

they are motivated and meaningful

then maybe they can succeed

to have such a success story with 78

years

with the app store still on a project

to work for what mankind

thrilled what 40 years flies or

at least productive and innovative too

aging and successful work world too

be

thank you very much

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