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From vandalism to fine art | Ben Eine | TEDxUniversityofEastAnglia


hello oh this is awkward I’m not a very

hello oh this is awkward I’m not a very good public speaker I’ve kind of spent

good public speaker I’ve kind of spent

good public speaker I’ve kind of spent most of my career and most of my life

most of my career and most of my life

most of my career and most of my life hiding behind some kind of like

hiding behind some kind of like

hiding behind some kind of like masquerade

masquerade

masquerade my name is not Ben iron my name’s Ben

my name is not Ben iron my name’s Ben

my name is not Ben iron my name’s Ben whatever so I’ve always been like hidden

whatever so I’ve always been like hidden

whatever so I’ve always been like hidden behind this thing so for me to stand up

behind this thing so for me to stand up

behind this thing so for me to stand up in front of you guys now and go during

in front of you guys now and go during

in front of you guys now and go during his talk was a little bit weird so we’re

his talk was a little bit weird so we’re

his talk was a little bit weird so we’re gonna talk about graffiti vandalism

gonna talk about graffiti vandalism

gonna talk about graffiti vandalism turning into fine art so I was full team

turning into fine art so I was full team

turning into fine art so I was full team and I was down the Kings Road I went in

and I was down the Kings Road I went in

and I was down the Kings Road I went in WH Smurfs and I saw this book and it’s

WH Smurfs and I saw this book and it’s

WH Smurfs and I saw this book and it’s called subway AR and it was the first

called subway AR and it was the first

called subway AR and it was the first thing I ever stolen in my life it was a

thing I ever stolen in my life it was a

thing I ever stolen in my life it was a book on by these two people mark Cooper

book on by these two people mark Cooper

book on by these two people mark Cooper and Henry tale front and this book

and Henry tale front and this book

and Henry tale front and this book literally became my Bible by literally

literally became my Bible by literally

literally became my Bible by literally worship worship it for years and I

worship worship it for years and I

worship worship it for years and I looked at these paintings of trains in

looked at these paintings of trains in

looked at these paintings of trains in New York and I was like I’m going to do

New York and I was like I’m going to do

New York and I was like I’m going to do that I kind of dedicated the next 20

that I kind of dedicated the next 20

that I kind of dedicated the next 20 years of my life to doing that I got

years of my life to doing that I got

years of my life to doing that I got arrested loads and tagged the hell out

arrested loads and tagged the hell out

arrested loads and tagged the hell out of London destroyed London Underground

of London destroyed London Underground

of London destroyed London Underground destroyed British Rail trains painted

destroyed British Rail trains painted

destroyed British Rail trains painted every Beastie Boy album named as a

every Beastie Boy album named as a

every Beastie Boy album named as a top-to-bottom whole car on British Rail

top-to-bottom whole car on British Rail

top-to-bottom whole car on British Rail carriages I was like a little kid yeah

carriages I was like a little kid yeah

carriages I was like a little kid yeah but the one thing I did have was an

but the one thing I did have was an

but the one thing I did have was an unbelievable Drive and an unbelievable

unbelievable Drive and an unbelievable

unbelievable Drive and an unbelievable passion for this thing that I couldn’t

passion for this thing that I couldn’t

passion for this thing that I couldn’t really understand when I got into

really understand when I got into

really understand when I got into graffiti I saw this book I kind of

graffiti I saw this book I kind of

graffiti I saw this book I kind of looked at this and I was like this is

looked at this and I was like this is

looked at this and I was like this is the most amazing art form in the world

the most amazing art form in the world

the most amazing art form in the world it’s literally gonna change everything

it’s literally gonna change everything

it’s literally gonna change everything and then 20 years later I was like this

and then 20 years later I was like this

and then 20 years later I was like this is literally so boring it hasn’t changed

is literally so boring it hasn’t changed

is literally so boring it hasn’t changed anything everything it promised it was

anything everything it promised it was

anything everything it promised it was going to do it hasn’t done and I’ve lost

going to do it hasn’t done and I’ve lost

going to do it hasn’t done and I’ve lost interest in it and at that time

interest in it and at that time

interest in it and at that time I’d met this kid called Banksy and his

I’d met this kid called Banksy and his

I’d met this kid called Banksy and his kid called Shepard Fairey and a few

kid called Shepard Fairey and a few

kid called Shepard Fairey and a few other people I was like know what you’re

other people I was like know what you’re

other people I was like know what you’re kind of doing graffiti but seems a

kind of doing graffiti but seems a

kind of doing graffiti but seems a little bit more intelligent it was at

little bit more intelligent it was at

little bit more intelligent it was at the same time that I’ve been arrested so

the same time that I’ve been arrested so

the same time that I’ve been arrested so many times that the next time I got

many times that the next time I got

many times that the next time I got arrested they were going to send me to

arrested they were going to send me to

arrested they were going to send me to prison so I was looking for a way that I

prison so I was looking for a way that I

prison so I was looking for a way that I could continue doing illegal graffiti

could continue doing illegal graffiti

could continue doing illegal graffiti arts whatever but not get arrested and I

arts whatever but not get arrested and I

arts whatever but not get arrested and I saw street art as a way for me to do

saw street art as a way for me to do

saw street art as a way for me to do that so a year was but that’s when I

that so a year was but that’s when I

that so a year was but that’s when I first started painting these big random

first started painting these big random

first started painting these big random letters on shutters and I kind of had a

letters on shutters and I kind of had a

letters on shutters and I kind of had a graffiti mentality and so I think I did

graffiti mentality and so I think I did

graffiti mentality and so I think I did like 60 shutters in like the course

like 60 shutters in like the course

like 60 shutters in like the course about three months all over East London

about three months all over East London

about three months all over East London and I didn’t tag them I didn’t want my

and I didn’t tag them I didn’t want my

and I didn’t tag them I didn’t want my name on them like nobody knew that was

name on them like nobody knew that was

name on them like nobody knew that was me that’s doing it nobody knew that what

me that’s doing it nobody knew that what

me that’s doing it nobody knew that what it was like half of them were illegal

it was like half of them were illegal

it was like half of them were illegal some of them are commissioned I paid for

some of them are commissioned I paid for

some of them are commissioned I paid for everything and over the course of like I

everything and over the course of like I

everything and over the course of like I know two or three months 60 random weird

know two or three months 60 random weird

know two or three months 60 random weird letters really nicely painted appeared

letters really nicely painted appeared

letters really nicely painted appeared on like shop shutters all over East

on like shop shutters all over East

on like shop shutters all over East London everyone was like where’s this

London everyone was like where’s this

London everyone was like where’s this and it kind of got people talking I was

and it kind of got people talking I was

and it kind of got people talking I was like this is way more interesting than

like this is way more interesting than

like this is way more interesting than graffiti no one cares about graffiti

graffiti no one cares about graffiti

graffiti no one cares about graffiti graffiti is about graffiti for graffiti

graffiti is about graffiti for graffiti

graffiti is about graffiti for graffiti writers to annoy graffiti wires but this

writers to annoy graffiti wires but this

writers to annoy graffiti wires but this is like you know by doing this I’m

is like you know by doing this I’m

is like you know by doing this I’m actually kind of connecting with people

actually kind of connecting with people

actually kind of connecting with people I’m I’m kind of making like crappy

I’m I’m kind of making like crappy

I’m I’m kind of making like crappy neighborhoods and crappy streets look

neighborhoods and crappy streets look

neighborhoods and crappy streets look better so all of a sudden I went from

better so all of a sudden I went from

better so all of a sudden I went from being one of the most destructive

being one of the most destructive

being one of the most destructive horrible graffiti writers in London to

horrible graffiti writers in London to

horrible graffiti writers in London to now I’m actually making neighborhoods

now I’m actually making neighborhoods

now I’m actually making neighborhoods look better and that that was kind of

look better and that that was kind of

look better and that that was kind of like a turning point for me I was like

like a turning point for me I was like

like a turning point for me I was like oh I don’t want to destroy things

oh I don’t want to destroy things

oh I don’t want to destroy things you know you know I’m an artist I have a

you know you know I’m an artist I have a

you know you know I’m an artist I have a talent I have a scale

talent I have a scale

talent I have a scale and I have a passion and that’s like one

and I have a passion and that’s like one

and I have a passion and that’s like one of the most important things so I

of the most important things so I

of the most important things so I started making things nicer rather than

started making things nicer rather than

started making things nicer rather than more horrible and yeah like I said I’ve

more horrible and yeah like I said I’ve

more horrible and yeah like I said I’ve hooked up these people started working

hooked up these people started working

hooked up these people started working Banksy me and Banksy war on mountain

Banksy me and Banksy war on mountain

Banksy me and Banksy war on mountain bikes we had some studios together and

bikes we had some studios together and

bikes we had some studios together and we’d run around with like stencils and

we’d run around with like stencils and

we’d run around with like stencils and do like little rats here and do that and

do like little rats here and do that and

do like little rats here and do that and slowly kind of like what was graffiti

slowly kind of like what was graffiti

slowly kind of like what was graffiti turned into kind of like like some kind

turned into kind of like like some kind

turned into kind of like like some kind of like happy graffiti or non-aggressive

of like happy graffiti or non-aggressive

of like happy graffiti or non-aggressive confiteor non-destructive graffiti and

confiteor non-destructive graffiti and

confiteor non-destructive graffiti and yeah it slowly turned into this kind of

yeah it slowly turned into this kind of

yeah it slowly turned into this kind of art movement that is now kind of street

art movement that is now kind of street

art movement that is now kind of street art we would run around London and like

art we would run around London and like

art we would run around London and like paint stuff and stick up stencils and

paint stuff and stick up stencils and

paint stuff and stick up stencils and there wasn’t a forum it’s a sale or kind

there wasn’t a forum it’s a sale or kind

there wasn’t a forum it’s a sale or kind of promote what we were doing like there

of promote what we were doing like there

of promote what we were doing like there wasn’t one gallery in London or the weld

wasn’t one gallery in London or the weld

wasn’t one gallery in London or the weld that would touch what we were doing so

that would touch what we were doing so

that would touch what we were doing so we kind of did it ourselves

we kind of did it ourselves

we kind of did it ourselves and it’s like I’ve always been inspired

and it’s like I’ve always been inspired

and it’s like I’ve always been inspired and motivated by like Vivienne Westwood

and motivated by like Vivienne Westwood

and motivated by like Vivienne Westwood the punk movement is like why wait for

the punk movement is like why wait for

the punk movement is like why wait for somebody to come along and go we love

somebody to come along and go we love

somebody to come along and go we love you

you

you do-it-yourself literally the whole DIY

do-it-yourself literally the whole DIY

do-it-yourself literally the whole DIY movement so you know the punk movement

movement so you know the punk movement

movement so you know the punk movement and I think street art did that so well

and I think street art did that so well

and I think street art did that so well you know we started our own galleries we

you know we started our own galleries we

you know we started our own galleries we started our own screen printing company

started our own screen printing company

started our own screen printing company called pigeon walls like I’d never

called pigeon walls like I’d never

called pigeon walls like I’d never screen printing in my life kind of did

screen printing in my life kind of did

screen printing in my life kind of did another job I’m like oh we want to

another job I’m like oh we want to

another job I’m like oh we want to screen print stuff I was like I was

screen print stuff I was like I was

screen print stuff I was like I was going things and I’d never sprinkling of

going things and I’d never sprinkling of

going things and I’d never sprinkling of anything in my life and I did like all

anything in my life and I did like all

anything in my life and I did like all the banks he staff Jamie who they’re

the banks he staff Jamie who they’re

the banks he staff Jamie who they’re Stanley Donwood

Stanley Donwood

Stanley Donwood and yet we turned it into a little

and yet we turned it into a little

and yet we turned it into a little industry because if we didn’t do it

industry because if we didn’t do it

industry because if we didn’t do it nobody else was going to do it

nobody else was going to do it

nobody else was going to do it after that like galleries kind of got

after that like galleries kind of got

after that like galleries kind of got interested you know gallery saw the

interested you know gallery saw the

interested you know gallery saw the opportunity to make money out of what we

opportunity to make money out of what we

opportunity to make money out of what we do and yeah now there’s like you know

do and yeah now there’s like you know

do and yeah now there’s like you know I’m in like the VNA Museum like la MOCA

I’m in like the VNA Museum like la MOCA

I’m in like the VNA Museum like la MOCA SF MOCA

SF MOCA

SF MOCA so yeah I don’t know it’s been a very

so yeah I don’t know it’s been a very

so yeah I don’t know it’s been a very strange kind of I never imagined that I

strange kind of I never imagined that I

strange kind of I never imagined that I would have a painting in the White House

would have a painting in the White House

would have a painting in the White House I never imagined that – my graffiti

I never imagined that – my graffiti

I never imagined that – my graffiti friends would be one nominated and won

friends would be one nominated and won

friends would be one nominated and won won an Oscar and like none of us went to

won an Oscar and like none of us went to

won an Oscar and like none of us went to art school we were all like kids that

art school we were all like kids that

art school we were all like kids that had like a passion to do sank I went to

had like a passion to do sank I went to

had like a passion to do sank I went to parylene a little while ago and you know

parylene a little while ago and you know

parylene a little while ago and you know I kind of love CR and most of my friends

I kind of love CR and most of my friends

I kind of love CR and most of my friends do it and I think a lot of my friends

do it and I think a lot of my friends

do it and I think a lot of my friends are amazing talented but you go to a

are amazing talented but you go to a

are amazing talented but you go to a place like Berlin and it’s just like

place like Berlin and it’s just like

place like Berlin and it’s just like this is literally visual pollution

this is literally visual pollution

this is literally visual pollution there’s so much rubbish I would make if

there’s so much rubbish I would make if

there’s so much rubbish I would make if I could I would make it I would take

I could I would make it I would take

I could I would make it I would take away walls that people are allowed to

away walls that people are allowed to

away walls that people are allowed to paint I would make it harder for you to

paint I would make it harder for you to

paint I would make it harder for you to get spray paint

get spray paint

get spray paint I would impose more draconian rules on

I would impose more draconian rules on

I would impose more draconian rules on policing and that would filter out the

policing and that would filter out the

policing and that would filter out the people that actually wanted to do it or

people that actually wanted to do it or

people that actually wanted to do it or had to do it and the people that did it

had to do it and the people that did it

had to do it and the people that did it because they wanted to get a girlfriend

it’s like friends have might have been

it’s like friends have might have been to prison so many times for graffiti

to prison so many times for graffiti

to prison so many times for graffiti right I grew up doing graffiti painting

right I grew up doing graffiti painting

right I grew up doing graffiti painting trains and much they have to edit this

trains and much they have to edit this

trains and much they have to edit this out I jumped over a fence the other

out I jumped over a fence the other

out I jumped over a fence the other nights and painted the try and I’m like

nights and painted the try and I’m like

nights and painted the try and I’m like oh what am i doing that’s like I’m

oh what am i doing that’s like I’m

oh what am i doing that’s like I’m friends of mine painted trains been to

friends of mine painted trains been to

friends of mine painted trains been to prison and still paint trains I like

prison and still paint trains I like

prison and still paint trains I like that like whether you’d like it whether

that like whether you’d like it whether

that like whether you’d like it whether you hate it whether it’s worth any money

you hate it whether it’s worth any money

you hate it whether it’s worth any money that those actions are like the purest

that those actions are like the purest

that those actions are like the purest the purest art ever like Damien Hirst

the purest art ever like Damien Hirst

the purest art ever like Damien Hirst going change the color of that spots

going change the color of that spots

going change the color of that spots well if that’s not art well that’s what

well if that’s not art well that’s what

well if that’s not art well that’s what people think is up like the drive and

people think is up like the drive and

people think is up like the drive and the passion to jump over France risk

the passion to jump over France risk

the passion to jump over France risk going to prison to write your name on

going to prison to write your name on

going to prison to write your name on the side of a train but no one’s ever

the side of a train but no one’s ever

the side of a train but no one’s ever going to say and everybody hates IVA

going to say and everybody hates IVA

going to say and everybody hates IVA it’s over that’s pure art or you’re an

it’s over that’s pure art or you’re an

it’s over that’s pure art or you’re an idiot anyway thank you so much my name’s

idiot anyway thank you so much my name’s

idiot anyway thank you so much my name’s Ben

Ben

Ben [Applause]

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