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last March I was right here in Gaston

last March I was right here in Gaston Hall attending the ownit summit after

Hall attending the ownit summit after

Hall attending the ownit summit after the end of the first panel I decided I

the end of the first panel I decided I

the end of the first panel I decided I wanted to go outside and call my mom to

wanted to go outside and call my mom to

wanted to go outside and call my mom to talk to her about all the super awesome

talk to her about all the super awesome

talk to her about all the super awesome feminist woman who were doing the kind

feminist woman who were doing the kind

feminist woman who were doing the kind of thing I wanted to be doing 10 20 30

of thing I wanted to be doing 10 20 30

of thing I wanted to be doing 10 20 30 years from now woman who were actively

years from now woman who were actively

years from now woman who were actively working to create a space for themselves

working to create a space for themselves

working to create a space for themselves and for future woman like myself I was

and for future woman like myself I was

and for future woman like myself I was so excited to talk to her until I heard

so excited to talk to her until I heard

so excited to talk to her until I heard her voice I knew that tone of voice mama

her voice I knew that tone of voice mama

her voice I knew that tone of voice mama what’s wrong nothing’s wrong habibti I

what’s wrong nothing’s wrong habibti I

what’s wrong nothing’s wrong habibti I love my things wrong mama you’re crying

love my things wrong mama you’re crying

love my things wrong mama you’re crying what’s wrong I’m just I’m just sad about

what’s wrong I’m just I’m just sad about

what’s wrong I’m just I’m just sad about things back home don’t worry about me

things back home don’t worry about me

things back home don’t worry about me though nothing’s wrong I’m just I’m okay

though nothing’s wrong I’m just I’m okay

though nothing’s wrong I’m just I’m okay focus on your studies you’re a senior

focus on your studies you’re a senior

focus on your studies you’re a senior everything is gonna be okay

everything is gonna be okay

everything is gonna be okay I knew not to take my mom’s words at

I knew not to take my mom’s words at

I knew not to take my mom’s words at face value

face value

face value I knew that tone of voice that would it

I knew that tone of voice that would it

I knew that tone of voice that would it was the tone of voice that comes from

was the tone of voice that comes from

was the tone of voice that comes from the gut-wrenching pain of losing a loved

the gut-wrenching pain of losing a loved

the gut-wrenching pain of losing a loved one I decided to call my little sister

one I decided to call my little sister

one I decided to call my little sister Fatma

Fatma

Fatma I spoke to mama I heard her voice who

I spoke to mama I heard her voice who

I spoke to mama I heard her voice who was it who died this time it was

was it who died this time it was

was it who died this time it was Mohammad who let Hani our maternal

Mohammad who let Hani our maternal

Mohammad who let Hani our maternal cousin this was the third cousin we lose

cousin this was the third cousin we lose

cousin this was the third cousin we lose in the span of three months I can’t even

in the span of three months I can’t even

in the span of three months I can’t even keep count how many family members we’ve

keep count how many family members we’ve

keep count how many family members we’ve lost over the past two years I was born

lost over the past two years I was born

lost over the past two years I was born in Benghazi Libya most of my family

in Benghazi Libya most of my family

in Benghazi Libya most of my family lived there until they were displaced in

lived there until they were displaced in

lived there until they were displaced in 2014 because of a civil war that no one

2014 because of a civil war that no one

2014 because of a civil war that no one wanted starting October 15th 2015

wanted starting October 15th 2015

wanted starting October 15th 2015 we’ve been continuously losing family

we’ve been continuously losing family

we’ve been continuously losing family members and loved ones to a civil war

members and loved ones to a civil war

members and loved ones to a civil war that no one wanted I still feel the pain

that no one wanted I still feel the pain

that no one wanted I still feel the pain of each loss still feel it right here

of each loss still feel it right here

of each loss still feel it right here but more than the pain I feel guilt you

but more than the pain I feel guilt you

but more than the pain I feel guilt you see there’s a survivor’s guilt that

see there’s a survivor’s guilt that

see there’s a survivor’s guilt that comes during times of war and I feel it

comes during times of war and I feel it

comes during times of war and I feel it exponentially how is it my family are

exponentially how is it my family are

exponentially how is it my family are trying to live escaping the horrors of

trying to live escaping the horrors of

trying to live escaping the horrors of war while I’m at Georgetown what did I

war while I’m at Georgetown what did I

war while I’m at Georgetown what did I do to deserve this level of privilege to

do to deserve this level of privilege to

do to deserve this level of privilege to make things worse I didn’t have the

make things worse I didn’t have the

make things worse I didn’t have the language to speak about this type of

language to speak about this type of

language to speak about this type of guilt to my friends which only isolated

guilt to my friends which only isolated

guilt to my friends which only isolated anymore

anymore

anymore I felt guilty for the smiles at a crack

I felt guilty for the smiles at a crack

I felt guilty for the smiles at a crack joke I felt guilty for the stress of

joke I felt guilty for the stress of

joke I felt guilty for the stress of midterms because my cousin’s didn’t

midterms because my cousin’s didn’t

midterms because my cousin’s didn’t hadn’t even gone to school for the past

hadn’t even gone to school for the past

hadn’t even gone to school for the past couple of years and I couldn’t talk to

couple of years and I couldn’t talk to

couple of years and I couldn’t talk to this about my I couldn’t talk about this

this about my I couldn’t talk about this

this about my I couldn’t talk about this to my friends because we’ve been taught

to my friends because we’ve been taught

to my friends because we’ve been taught to value problem-solving overactive

to value problem-solving overactive

to value problem-solving overactive empathy so every time I would talk to

empathy so every time I would talk to

empathy so every time I would talk to talk to someone about this they try to

talk to someone about this they try to

talk to someone about this they try to come up with some solution which was

come up with some solution which was

come up with some solution which was never really a solution only isolating

never really a solution only isolating

never really a solution only isolating me more

me more

me more I still remember one specific instance

I still remember one specific instance

I still remember one specific instance of this I was talking to one of my best

of this I was talking to one of my best

of this I was talking to one of my best friends whom I loved dearly

friends whom I loved dearly

friends whom I loved dearly about this and she said maybe I should

about this and she said maybe I should

about this and she said maybe I should consider learning to forgive she started

consider learning to forgive she started

consider learning to forgive she started reading doesn’t lead to two quotes to me

reading doesn’t lead to two quotes to me

reading doesn’t lead to two quotes to me which only infuriated me more how dare

which only infuriated me more how dare

which only infuriated me more how dare you how dare you ask me to forgive when

you how dare you ask me to forgive when

you how dare you ask me to forgive when my cousins were taken away from their

my cousins were taken away from their

my cousins were taken away from their mothers how dare you ask me to forgive

mothers how dare you ask me to forgive

mothers how dare you ask me to forgive when my family home was burned to a

when my family home was burned to a

when my family home was burned to a crisp how dare you ask me to forgive

crisp how dare you ask me to forgive

crisp how dare you ask me to forgive when I still hear the crack in my aunt’s

when I still hear the crack in my aunt’s

when I still hear the crack in my aunt’s voice every time her son’s name is

voice every time her son’s name is

voice every time her son’s name is mentioned

she took a moment and then responded but

she took a moment and then responded but how will you heal how will your country

how will you heal how will your country

how will you heal how will your country heal you see by that point I’d perfected

heal you see by that point I’d perfected

heal you see by that point I’d perfected the art of I’m fine every time someone

the art of I’m fine every time someone

the art of I’m fine every time someone would ask me about this don’t worry

would ask me about this don’t worry

would ask me about this don’t worry about me I’m fine don’t worry

about me I’m fine don’t worry

about me I’m fine don’t worry and the little smile to look to assure

and the little smile to look to assure

and the little smile to look to assure all my friends that everything was ok

all my friends that everything was ok

all my friends that everything was ok and that they didn’t need to feel guilty

and that they didn’t need to feel guilty

and that they didn’t need to feel guilty for not being around me all the time

for not being around me all the time

for not being around me all the time after all the losses I’m fine well good

after all the losses I’m fine well good

after all the losses I’m fine well good know about it but every time I did that

know about it but every time I did that

know about it but every time I did that raging forest fires of anger started

raging forest fires of anger started

raging forest fires of anger started inside of me which left no space for

inside of me which left no space for

inside of me which left no space for healing was it even possible to heal

healing was it even possible to heal

healing was it even possible to heal after this much loss I started looking

after this much loss I started looking

after this much loss I started looking for ways of healing that didn’t require

for ways of healing that didn’t require

for ways of healing that didn’t require forgiveness forgiveness requires someone

forgiveness forgiveness requires someone

forgiveness forgiveness requires someone ask for forgiveness forgiveness requires

ask for forgiveness forgiveness requires

ask for forgiveness forgiveness requires some form of moral justification or

some form of moral justification or

some form of moral justification or explanation of these people’s actions

explanation of these people’s actions

explanation of these people’s actions and I couldn’t bring myself to do so

while talking about this to one of my

while talking about this to one of my professors

professors

professors she mentioned a group called the Y ihr

she mentioned a group called the Y ihr

she mentioned a group called the Y ihr the Youth Initiative for human rights in

the Youth Initiative for human rights in

the Youth Initiative for human rights in the former Yugoslavia there a group of

the former Yugoslavia there a group of

the former Yugoslavia there a group of young activists who create art

young activists who create art

young activists who create art installations like this one across the

installations like this one across the

installations like this one across the different cities in the former

different cities in the former

different cities in the former Yugoslavia this art installation was in

Yugoslavia this art installation was in

Yugoslavia this art installation was in Pristina and Kosovo it has inscribe all

Pristina and Kosovo it has inscribe all

Pristina and Kosovo it has inscribe all inscribed the names of 1819 missing

inscribed the names of 1819 missing

inscribed the names of 1819 missing persons since the last war in Kosovo and

persons since the last war in Kosovo and

persons since the last war in Kosovo and in front of the wall

in front of the wall

in front of the wall they put a chair to remind people all

they put a chair to remind people all

they put a chair to remind people all these names for all these names there is

these names for all these names there is

these names for all these names there is still a chair in someone’s living in

still a chair in someone’s living in

still a chair in someone’s living in someone’s dining table their families

someone’s dining table their families

someone’s dining table their families are still waiting for them to come home

are still waiting for them to come home

are still waiting for them to come home for dinner what was controversial about

for dinner what was controversial about

for dinner what was controversial about this piece of art though was that the

this piece of art though was that the

this piece of art though was that the names of the victims were not just those

names of the victims were not just those

names of the victims were not just those from Kosovo there were crow

from Kosovo there were crow

from Kosovo there were crow and Bosniaks and serbs the pain

and Bosniaks and serbs the pain

and Bosniaks and serbs the pain transcended the borders that were

transcended the borders that were

transcended the borders that were created by the war that reminded me of a

created by the war that reminded me of a

created by the war that reminded me of a scene that i had seen at a libyan Aza a

scene that i had seen at a libyan Aza a

scene that i had seen at a libyan Aza a libyan Aza is a social occasion after

libyan Aza is a social occasion after

libyan Aza is a social occasion after someone dies all family friends and

someone dies all family friends and

someone dies all family friends and loved ones come to give condolences to

loved ones come to give condolences to

loved ones come to give condolences to the family of the person who had died I

the family of the person who had died I

the family of the person who had died I was at one Aza when I saw a scene that

was at one Aza when I saw a scene that

was at one Aza when I saw a scene that no amount of words can describe to

mothers whose sons had fought on

mothers whose sons had fought on opposite sides of the war hugging each

opposite sides of the war hugging each

opposite sides of the war hugging each other and crying

other and crying

other and crying each whale barely drop in the ocean of

each whale barely drop in the ocean of

each whale barely drop in the ocean of their grief I was so surprised by the

their grief I was so surprised by the

their grief I was so surprised by the scene I asked my cousins about it and

scene I asked my cousins about it and

scene I asked my cousins about it and they said this wasn’t a rare sight they

they said this wasn’t a rare sight they

they said this wasn’t a rare sight they said these mothers understand each other

said these mothers understand each other

said these mothers understand each other in a way no politician ever will both

in a way no politician ever will both

in a way no politician ever will both mothers wake up every morning for a

mothers wake up every morning for a

mothers wake up every morning for a brief second everything’s okay until

brief second everything’s okay until

brief second everything’s okay until they remember and when they remember

they remember and when they remember

they remember and when they remember it’s like a wave hitting them in the

it’s like a wave hitting them in the

it’s like a wave hitting them in the face again and again and again every

face again and again and again every

face again and again and again every moment reminding them of the moment they

moment reminding them of the moment they

moment reminding them of the moment they found out that their son was no longer

found out that their son was no longer

found out that their son was no longer alive these mothers when they see each

alive these mothers when they see each

alive these mothers when they see each other they don’t see politics they see

other they don’t see politics they see

other they don’t see politics they see the pain they practice empathy these

the pain they practice empathy these

the pain they practice empathy these mothers understand each other in a way

mothers understand each other in a way

mothers understand each other in a way no politician ever will or else why

no politician ever will or else why

no politician ever will or else why would they keep sending our sons to

would they keep sending our sons to

would they keep sending our sons to fight each other

in trying to understand this I’d have

in trying to understand this I’d have the only thing I know how to do when I’m

the only thing I know how to do when I’m

the only thing I know how to do when I’m overwhelmed by emotion I wrote a spoken

overwhelmed by emotion I wrote a spoken

overwhelmed by emotion I wrote a spoken word poet Sarah Kay the poet says spoken

word poet Sarah Kay the poet says spoken

word poet Sarah Kay the poet says spoken word poetry is poetry that demands to be

word poetry is poetry that demands to be

word poetry is poetry that demands to be heard or witnessed one of my professor

heard or witnessed one of my professor

heard or witnessed one of my professor is an undergrad taught me that spoken

is an undergrad taught me that spoken

is an undergrad taught me that spoken word poetry is three minutes of me on a

word poetry is three minutes of me on a

word poetry is three minutes of me on a stage uninterrupted so I can interrupt

stage uninterrupted so I can interrupt

stage uninterrupted so I can interrupt the status quo to me spoken word poetry

the status quo to me spoken word poetry

the status quo to me spoken word poetry is feelings that refuse to sit on paper

is feelings that refuse to sit on paper

is feelings that refuse to sit on paper or a screen they want to scream and they

or a screen they want to scream and they

or a screen they want to scream and they use my vocal cords as a tool to do so

use my vocal cords as a tool to do so

use my vocal cords as a tool to do so and so I wrote this poem

we have a proverb in my country chief

we have a proverb in my country chief and man magische vallei en but the curse

and man magische vallei en but the curse

and man magische vallei en but the curse come to my money and not my children but

come to my money and not my children but

come to my money and not my children but the curse has taken both the curse has

the curse has taken both the curse has

the curse has taken both the curse has turned my home into a graveyard full of

turned my home into a graveyard full of

turned my home into a graveyard full of names of people and once recognized

names of people and once recognized

names of people and once recognized filled with the stench of death almost

filled with the stench of death almost

filled with the stench of death almost distracting me from the smoky gray of

distracting me from the smoky gray of

distracting me from the smoky gray of all the tombstones with father daughter

all the tombstones with father daughter

all the tombstones with father daughter son beloved beloved beloved that word

son beloved beloved beloved that word

son beloved beloved beloved that word brings about the shrieks of all the

brings about the shrieks of all the

brings about the shrieks of all the mothers after losing their sons that

mothers after losing their sons that

mothers after losing their sons that word brings about the grief of knowing

word brings about the grief of knowing

word brings about the grief of knowing that my brother isn’t coming home my

that my brother isn’t coming home my

that my brother isn’t coming home my brother isn’t gonna tell me I’m safe my

brother isn’t gonna tell me I’m safe my

brother isn’t gonna tell me I’m safe my brother my beloved mode then reach the

brother my beloved mode then reach the

brother my beloved mode then reach the Palestinian poet says I kill her and I

Palestinian poet says I kill her and I

Palestinian poet says I kill her and I lie in the same grave in war this war

lie in the same grave in war this war

lie in the same grave in war this war has turned my city into a graveyard and

has turned my city into a graveyard and

has turned my city into a graveyard and in the graveyard there is no winner for

in the graveyard there is no winner for

in the graveyard there is no winner for the killer in the killed lie in the same

the killer in the killed lie in the same

the killer in the killed lie in the same grave

this poem was a culmination of two years

this poem was a culmination of two years of emotions this poem was the beginning

of emotions this poem was the beginning

of emotions this poem was the beginning of my healing process it taught me that

of my healing process it taught me that

of my healing process it taught me that in the graveyard there are no winners in

in the graveyard there are no winners in

in the graveyard there are no winners in the graveyard there’s only pain and pain

the graveyard there’s only pain and pain

the graveyard there’s only pain and pain pain knows no ideology no nation or

pain knows no ideology no nation or

pain knows no ideology no nation or ethnicity or religion pain affects us

ethnicity or religion pain affects us

ethnicity or religion pain affects us all and reflecting about this poem and

all and reflecting about this poem and

all and reflecting about this poem and everything that I’ve been through in the

everything that I’ve been through in the

everything that I’ve been through in the past couple years I noticed something I

past couple years I noticed something I

past couple years I noticed something I noticed that people try to put a

noticed that people try to put a

noticed that people try to put a hierarchy on pain we try to say

hierarchy on pain we try to say

hierarchy on pain we try to say my pain is tougher than theirs my pain

my pain is tougher than theirs my pain

my pain is tougher than theirs my pain it’s harder but in the process of doing

it’s harder but in the process of doing

it’s harder but in the process of doing so we don’t realize that we’re isolating

so we don’t realize that we’re isolating

so we don’t realize that we’re isolating them from empathizing with us and we’re

them from empathizing with us and we’re

them from empathizing with us and we’re stopping ourselves from emphasizing with

stopping ourselves from emphasizing with

stopping ourselves from emphasizing with them we try to tie a moral character to

them we try to tie a moral character to

them we try to tie a moral character to pain and in the process we don’t

pain and in the process we don’t

pain and in the process we don’t acknowledge the pain of those that we

acknowledge the pain of those that we

acknowledge the pain of those that we disagree with empathy on the other hand

empathy allows us to see the pain of

empathy allows us to see the pain of those that we disagree with to go a step

those that we disagree with to go a step

those that we disagree with to go a step further

further

further empathy allows us to see the humanity of

empathy allows us to see the humanity of

empathy allows us to see the humanity of those that hurt us I believe empathy can

those that hurt us I believe empathy can

those that hurt us I believe empathy can be learned specifically empathy can be

be learned specifically empathy can be

be learned specifically empathy can be learned through art and I’m not talking

learned through art and I’m not talking

learned through art and I’m not talking about the really expensive art that no

about the really expensive art that no

about the really expensive art that no one really understand that goes from one

one really understand that goes from one

one really understand that goes from one millionaires house to another

millionaires house to another

millionaires house to another millionaires house I’m talking about the

millionaires house I’m talking about the

millionaires house I’m talking about the art that disrupts the daily I’m talking

art that disrupts the daily I’m talking

art that disrupts the daily I’m talking about the art that disrupts the news

about the art that disrupts the news

about the art that disrupts the news bites

bites

bites that we’ve become descent desensitized

that we’ve become descent desensitized

that we’ve become descent desensitized to I’m talking about the roses of

to I’m talking about the roses of

to I’m talking about the roses of Sarajevo campaign which was done in a

Sarajevo campaign which was done in a

Sarajevo campaign which was done in a way to draw a red rose in every place

way to draw a red rose in every place

way to draw a red rose in every place that someone was killed in Sarajevo in

that someone was killed in Sarajevo in

that someone was killed in Sarajevo in 1995 I’m talking about bear story which

1995 I’m talking about bear story which

1995 I’m talking about bear story which tells the story of Leopard I see those

tells the story of Leopard I see those

tells the story of Leopard I see those in Chile in the span of nine minutes I’m

in Chile in the span of nine minutes I’m

in Chile in the span of nine minutes I’m even talking about Hamilton which has

even talking about Hamilton which has

even talking about Hamilton which has led us all to reconsider how we view our

led us all to reconsider how we view our

led us all to reconsider how we view our history and how we interact with our

history and how we interact with our

history and how we interact with our society today art is a powerful

society today art is a powerful

society today art is a powerful disrupter my personal medium of art is

disrupter my personal medium of art is

disrupter my personal medium of art is poetry for the past two years I’ve been

poetry for the past two years I’ve been

poetry for the past two years I’ve been performing poetry to diverse audiences

performing poetry to diverse audiences

performing poetry to diverse audiences and it never ceases to amaze me how a

and it never ceases to amaze me how a

and it never ceases to amaze me how a poem so personal to me can deeply affect

poem so personal to me can deeply affect

poem so personal to me can deeply affect someone who was born and raised in

someone who was born and raised in

someone who was born and raised in Venezuela or Colombia or Yemen or Syria

Venezuela or Colombia or Yemen or Syria

Venezuela or Colombia or Yemen or Syria or even in the safety of the United

or even in the safety of the United

or even in the safety of the United States and I think that’s because poetry

States and I think that’s because poetry

States and I think that’s because poetry spoken word poetry is vulnerable when I

spoken word poetry is vulnerable when I

spoken word poetry is vulnerable when I perform a poem it’s three minutes of me

perform a poem it’s three minutes of me

perform a poem it’s three minutes of me on a stage sharing my heart to a group

on a stage sharing my heart to a group

on a stage sharing my heart to a group of people I’ve never met before but it’s

of people I’ve never met before but it’s

of people I’ve never met before but it’s that vulnerability that allows them to

that vulnerability that allows them to

that vulnerability that allows them to approach me after the end of the poem

approach me after the end of the poem

approach me after the end of the poem and say felt that you see I have this

and say felt that you see I have this

and say felt that you see I have this kind of similar experience because of

kind of similar experience because of

kind of similar experience because of this in this often opening up a

this in this often opening up a

this in this often opening up a discussion that wouldn’t have happened

discussion that wouldn’t have happened

discussion that wouldn’t have happened otherwise

poetry uses my tongue as a paintbrush to

poetry uses my tongue as a paintbrush to accentuate the colors of my words in a

accentuate the colors of my words in a

accentuate the colors of my words in a performance that’s the portrait in the

performance that’s the portrait in the

performance that’s the portrait in the end

and that portrait opens up a key to

and that portrait opens up a key to finding empathy now while there are

finding empathy now while there are

finding empathy now while there are still raging forest fires inside of me

still raging forest fires inside of me

still raging forest fires inside of me from all the pain and all the loss I can

from all the pain and all the loss I can

from all the pain and all the loss I can confidently say that there slowly but

confidently say that there slowly but

confidently say that there slowly but surely calming down from the rain

surely calming down from the rain

surely calming down from the rain brought by by empathy empathy is the key

brought by by empathy empathy is the key

brought by by empathy empathy is the key to healing a divided society both

to healing a divided society both

to healing a divided society both personally and societally an art is the

personally and societally an art is the

personally and societally an art is the key to that empathy

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