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Evolution of an angler | Kathryn Maroun | TEDxCanmore


just gets it just gets better oh good I

just gets it just gets better oh good I did put my pants on

I have been a professional angler for

I have been a professional angler for most of my adult life I was a guide an

most of my adult life I was a guide an

most of my adult life I was a guide an instructor and I have my own TV show I

instructor and I have my own TV show I

instructor and I have my own TV show I was a member of the Canadian fly fishing

was a member of the Canadian fly fishing

was a member of the Canadian fly fishing team and I fished on the World

team and I fished on the World

team and I fished on the World Championships fishing has been my life’s

Championships fishing has been my life’s

Championships fishing has been my life’s passion my husband move of course if

passion my husband move of course if

passion my husband move of course if anyone here is a fisherman and I do see

anyone here is a fisherman and I do see

anyone here is a fisherman and I do see some familiar faces in the crowd you

some familiar faces in the crowd you

some familiar faces in the crowd you know how it feels when you cast your

know how it feels when you cast your

know how it feels when you cast your line in the water and hit your mark one

line in the water and hit your mark one

line in the water and hit your mark one minute you’re enjoying the peace and

minute you’re enjoying the peace and

minute you’re enjoying the peace and serenity of nature when all of a sudden

serenity of nature when all of a sudden

serenity of nature when all of a sudden the water explodes you feel a pull you

the water explodes you feel a pull you

the water explodes you feel a pull you pull back your adrenaline goes through

pull back your adrenaline goes through

pull back your adrenaline goes through the roof and you start to shape as you

the roof and you start to shape as you

the roof and you start to shape as you real that fish in no words can describe

real that fish in no words can describe

real that fish in no words can describe that feeling I’ve never felt more alive

that feeling I’ve never felt more alive

that feeling I’ve never felt more alive my husband Luke of course now this is

my husband Luke of course now this is

my husband Luke of course now this is where it gets tough because as great as

where it gets tough because as great as

where it gets tough because as great as that feeling is and as much as I know

that feeling is and as much as I know

that feeling is and as much as I know that I will miss it I have decided to

that I will miss it I have decided to

that I will miss it I have decided to never again cast a line in the water for

never again cast a line in the water for

never again cast a line in the water for sport

I’m not here to preach or tell anyone

I’m not here to preach or tell anyone what’s right or wrong this is my

what’s right or wrong this is my

what’s right or wrong this is my personal decision one that has taken a

personal decision one that has taken a

personal decision one that has taken a lot of souls now I grew up on the water

lot of souls now I grew up on the water

lot of souls now I grew up on the water in Nova Scotia and I fell in love with

in Nova Scotia and I fell in love with

in Nova Scotia and I fell in love with fishing the first time I cast my line on

fishing the first time I cast my line on

fishing the first time I cast my line on the water and pulled out a fish you know

the water and pulled out a fish you know

the water and pulled out a fish you know it seemed like a miracle I remember how

it seemed like a miracle I remember how

it seemed like a miracle I remember how excited I felt and how back then sports

excited I felt and how back then sports

excited I felt and how back then sports fishing was a male preserve I would

fishing was a male preserve I would

fishing was a male preserve I would watch the fishing shows on TV and

watch the fishing shows on TV and

watch the fishing shows on TV and fantasize about having a show of my own

fantasize about having a show of my own

fantasize about having a show of my own but the idea seems so preposterous that

but the idea seems so preposterous that

but the idea seems so preposterous that I wouldn’t even dare say it out loud and

I wouldn’t even dare say it out loud and

I wouldn’t even dare say it out loud and my father well he would take my

my father well he would take my

my father well he would take my brother’s on the fishing trips but he

brother’s on the fishing trips but he

brother’s on the fishing trips but he would never take me it never even

would never take me it never even

would never take me it never even occurred to him and when I would ask to

occurred to him and when I would ask to

occurred to him and when I would ask to come along he’d say these trips aren’t

come along he’d say these trips aren’t

come along he’d say these trips aren’t for girls and a discussion when I was 30

for girls and a discussion when I was 30

for girls and a discussion when I was 30 I decided to go after my dream I sold my

I decided to go after my dream I sold my

I decided to go after my dream I sold my business and went in pursuit of becoming

business and went in pursuit of becoming

business and went in pursuit of becoming a professional fly fisherman now what

a professional fly fisherman now what

a professional fly fisherman now what i’m about to share with you guys I’ve

i’m about to share with you guys I’ve

i’m about to share with you guys I’ve never said out loud before it has taken

never said out loud before it has taken

never said out loud before it has taken me many years to get to this place and

me many years to get to this place and

me many years to get to this place and it’s heartbreaking for me so I’m glad

it’s heartbreaking for me so I’m glad

it’s heartbreaking for me so I’m glad that I’m amongst friends you guys can

that I’m amongst friends you guys can

that I’m amongst friends you guys can help me through it but here we go I was

help me through it but here we go I was

help me through it but here we go I was talking about how when I turned 30 I

talking about how when I turned 30 I

talking about how when I turned 30 I decided to go after my dream and I sold

decided to go after my dream and I sold

decided to go after my dream and I sold my business and devoted myself to

my business and devoted myself to

my business and devoted myself to learning the art of fly fishing and it

learning the art of fly fishing and it

learning the art of fly fishing and it was a lot of work if any of you guys

was a lot of work if any of you guys

was a lot of work if any of you guys have tried this it’s you know the first

have tried this it’s you know the first

have tried this it’s you know the first time I tried it I lift the fly off the

time I tried it I lift the fly off the

time I tried it I lift the fly off the water and I would duck but you know

water and I would duck but you know

water and I would duck but you know after a few years I became the third

after a few years I became the third

after a few years I became the third woman in Canada to be qualified as a

woman in Canada to be qualified as a

woman in Canada to be qualified as a certified casting instructor

certified casting instructor

certified casting instructor yeah thank you I worked as a fishing

yeah thank you I worked as a fishing

yeah thank you I worked as a fishing guide for a while but that was a little

guide for a while but that was a little

guide for a while but that was a little tricky taking men that I didn’t know

tricky taking men that I didn’t know

tricky taking men that I didn’t know into the wilderness when I be carrying

into the wilderness when I be carrying

into the wilderness when I be carrying the toilet paper and the see-through

the toilet paper and the see-through

the toilet paper and the see-through sack and the whole bit anyway so after

sack and the whole bit anyway so after

sack and the whole bit anyway so after that I started to produce my own TV show

that I started to produce my own TV show

that I started to produce my own TV show and then i traveled all over the world

and then i traveled all over the world

and then i traveled all over the world in pursuit of the top game fish peacock

in pursuit of the top game fish peacock

in pursuit of the top game fish peacock bass in Brazil sailfish in Costa Rica

bass in Brazil sailfish in Costa Rica

bass in Brazil sailfish in Costa Rica yellow fish in South Africa time and in

yellow fish in South Africa time and in

yellow fish in South Africa time and in Mongolia the mighty Mahathir in India

Mongolia the mighty Mahathir in India

Mongolia the mighty Mahathir in India and even a fish that smelled like

and even a fish that smelled like

and even a fish that smelled like watermelon and it was a vegetarian in

watermelon and it was a vegetarian in

watermelon and it was a vegetarian in Japan I went fishing every chance I had

Japan I went fishing every chance I had

Japan I went fishing every chance I had and every trip had one primary goal to

and every trip had one primary goal to

and every trip had one primary goal to catch the trophy fish oh yeah the one

catch the trophy fish oh yeah the one

catch the trophy fish oh yeah the one that would make people sit up and take

that would make people sit up and take

that would make people sit up and take notice there are other satisfactions as

notice there are other satisfactions as

notice there are other satisfactions as well because my husband one would invite

well because my husband one would invite

well because my husband one would invite me to go on his fishing trips and I was

me to go on his fishing trips and I was

me to go on his fishing trips and I was the only usually the only woman in the

the only usually the only woman in the

the only usually the only woman in the group and at first the men were aloof

group and at first the men were aloof

group and at first the men were aloof and a bit dismissive but that changed

and a bit dismissive but that changed

and a bit dismissive but that changed when I showed them that I could fish as

when I showed them that I could fish as

when I showed them that I could fish as well if not better than they could and

well if not better than they could and

well if not better than they could and it might sound crass but I have to admit

it might sound crass but I have to admit

it might sound crass but I have to admit that I did enjoy seeing the looks on

that I did enjoy seeing the looks on

that I did enjoy seeing the looks on their faces at the end of the day when

their faces at the end of the day when

their faces at the end of the day when they found out that I was top rod

they found out that I was top rod

they found out that I was top rod I took even more pleasure when they

I took even more pleasure when they

I took even more pleasure when they would comment on what great fishing

would comment on what great fishing

would comment on what great fishing buddies Lu and I were and how on the

buddies Lu and I were and how on the

buddies Lu and I were and how on the next trip they would invite their wives

next trip they would invite their wives

next trip they would invite their wives along now I always saw myself as the

along now I always saw myself as the

along now I always saw myself as the fishes ally I always practice catch and

fishes ally I always practice catch and

fishes ally I always practice catch and release and I treated the fish with the

release and I treated the fish with the

release and I treated the fish with the utmost care I practiced with barbless

utmost care I practiced with barbless

utmost care I practiced with barbless hook to lessen the damage to the fish I

hook to lessen the damage to the fish I

hook to lessen the damage to the fish I kept the fish in the water for the photo

kept the fish in the water for the photo

kept the fish in the water for the photo op and instead of releasing it right

op and instead of releasing it right

op and instead of releasing it right away I would hold on to it until it was

away I would hold on to it until it was

away I would hold on to it until it was ready to swim away under its own power

ready to swim away under its own power

ready to swim away under its own power but despite taking all these protections

but despite taking all these protections

but despite taking all these protections I always had this nagging feeling that I

I always had this nagging feeling that I

I always had this nagging feeling that I was doing something wrong I might have

was doing something wrong I might have

was doing something wrong I might have known that I was going to release the

known that I was going to release the

known that I was going to release the fish but the fish didn’t know that as

fish but the fish didn’t know that as

fish but the fish didn’t know that as far as it was concerned it was fighting

far as it was concerned it was fighting

far as it was concerned it was fighting for its life and seeing the fish

for its life and seeing the fish

for its life and seeing the fish struggle and gasp for air did take away

struggle and gasp for air did take away

struggle and gasp for air did take away a lot of the joy of catching it you know

a lot of the joy of catching it you know

a lot of the joy of catching it you know my sinking feeling turned out to be more

my sinking feeling turned out to be more

my sinking feeling turned out to be more than just women’s intuition in recent

than just women’s intuition in recent

than just women’s intuition in recent years scientific studies have proven

years scientific studies have proven

years scientific studies have proven that catch and release isn’t as harmless

that catch and release isn’t as harmless

that catch and release isn’t as harmless as we’ve been told a lot of the fish

as we’ve been told a lot of the fish

as we’ve been told a lot of the fish that are released die within days or

that are released die within days or

that are released die within days or weeks of being hooked and their death

weeks of being hooked and their death

weeks of being hooked and their death isn’t a pleasant one injuries they

isn’t a pleasant one injuries they

isn’t a pleasant one injuries they suffer from being hooked and released

suffer from being hooked and released

suffer from being hooked and released can make it hard for them to eat and

can make it hard for them to eat and

can make it hard for them to eat and make them prone to predation so this is

make them prone to predation so this is

make them prone to predation so this is where things got complicated for me

where things got complicated for me

where things got complicated for me because I could no longer make another

because I could no longer make another

because I could no longer make another living being suffer just to give me a

living being suffer just to give me a

living being suffer just to give me a thrill and to feed my ego the more I

thrill and to feed my ego the more I

thrill and to feed my ego the more I learned the more conflicted i became but

learned the more conflicted i became but

learned the more conflicted i became but i wasn’t ready to give up fishing i was

i wasn’t ready to give up fishing i was

i wasn’t ready to give up fishing i was too addicted to the thrill of the battle

too addicted to the thrill of the battle

too addicted to the thrill of the battle to in love with that trophy picture oh

to in love with that trophy picture oh

to in love with that trophy picture oh yes i was too enamored with being part

yes i was too enamored with being part

yes i was too enamored with being part of the fishing fraternity

so you know I just kept on fishing and

so you know I just kept on fishing and suppress that sinking feeling that I had

suppress that sinking feeling that I had

suppress that sinking feeling that I had so this led to the next stage of my

so this led to the next stage of my

so this led to the next stage of my evolution about 10 years ago Lou and I

evolution about 10 years ago Lou and I

evolution about 10 years ago Lou and I established an organization called

established an organization called

established an organization called casting for recovery Canada it’s a

casting for recovery Canada it’s a

casting for recovery Canada it’s a nonprofit organization that teaches

nonprofit organization that teaches

nonprofit organization that teaches women who have or have had breast cancer

women who have or have had breast cancer

women who have or have had breast cancer how to fly fish and you know some of

how to fly fish and you know some of

how to fly fish and you know some of those women didn’t want to tie the fly

those women didn’t want to tie the fly

those women didn’t want to tie the fly on their hook on their line and at first

on their hook on their line and at first

on their hook on their line and at first I thought they were being overly

I thought they were being overly

I thought they were being overly sensitive but then when I got sick I

sensitive but then when I got sick I

sensitive but then when I got sick I started to feel the same way my illness

started to feel the same way my illness

started to feel the same way my illness changed everything about my my life I

changed everything about my my life I

changed everything about my my life I had contracted Lyme disease it’s a

had contracted Lyme disease it’s a

had contracted Lyme disease it’s a serious infection you guys know about it

serious infection you guys know about it

serious infection you guys know about it out here it’s caused by a bug bite and

out here it’s caused by a bug bite and

out here it’s caused by a bug bite and when I got sick the doctors didn’t know

when I got sick the doctors didn’t know

when I got sick the doctors didn’t know what was wrong with me so I’d actually

what was wrong with me so I’d actually

what was wrong with me so I’d actually been sick for a long time and it had

been sick for a long time and it had

been sick for a long time and it had gone diagnosed and it turned into a

gone diagnosed and it turned into a

gone diagnosed and it turned into a potentially life-threatening illness so

potentially life-threatening illness so

potentially life-threatening illness so suddenly I had gone from being fearless

suddenly I had gone from being fearless

suddenly I had gone from being fearless and adventurous and you know really I I

and adventurous and you know really I I

and adventurous and you know really I I was living the life and for the first

was living the life and for the first

was living the life and for the first time in my life I was forced to confront

time in my life I was forced to confront

time in my life I was forced to confront my own mortality and I started asking

my own mortality and I started asking

my own mortality and I started asking myself questions that I hadn’t asked

myself questions that I hadn’t asked

myself questions that I hadn’t asked since I would was an adolescent you know

since I would was an adolescent you know

since I would was an adolescent you know like why was I born and and what is the

like why was I born and and what is the

like why was I born and and what is the purpose of my life so despite my illness

purpose of my life so despite my illness

purpose of my life so despite my illness I was able to go on a few fishing trips

I was able to go on a few fishing trips

I was able to go on a few fishing trips but I realized I had lost the heart for

but I realized I had lost the heart for

but I realized I had lost the heart for it I could no longer catch a fish for

it I could no longer catch a fish for

it I could no longer catch a fish for sport I realized that I could no longer

sport I realized that I could no longer

sport I realized that I could no longer cause another living being to suffer

cause another living being to suffer

cause another living being to suffer just to give me a thrill and to feed my

just to give me a thrill and to feed my

just to give me a thrill and to feed my ego

so I decided to switch things up a

so I decided to switch things up a little bit and I went on a trip to

little bit and I went on a trip to

little bit and I went on a trip to Iceland and I thought I’m gonna try

Iceland and I thought I’m gonna try

Iceland and I thought I’m gonna try hookless fishing have you guys heard of

hookless fishing have you guys heard of

hookless fishing have you guys heard of this well I the guide hadn’t heard of it

this well I the guide hadn’t heard of it

this well I the guide hadn’t heard of it either but I told him what I was going

either but I told him what I was going

either but I told him what I was going to do you know because I was desperate i

to do you know because I was desperate i

to do you know because I was desperate i wanted to keep fishing you know fishing

wanted to keep fishing you know fishing

wanted to keep fishing you know fishing was it was my whole life I mean look it

was it was my whole life I mean look it

was it was my whole life I mean look it was my identity it was how I saw myself

was my identity it was how I saw myself

was my identity it was how I saw myself and how others saw me I wasn’t ready to

and how others saw me I wasn’t ready to

and how others saw me I wasn’t ready to give this all up so hookless fishing so

give this all up so hookless fishing so

give this all up so hookless fishing so I told the guide if you can picture this

I told the guide if you can picture this

I told the guide if you can picture this I’m going to cut off the bend of the

I’m going to cut off the bend of the

I’m going to cut off the bend of the hook and cast the feathers alone well he

hook and cast the feathers alone well he

hook and cast the feathers alone well he didn’t laugh but you know not out loud

didn’t laugh but you know not out loud

didn’t laugh but you know not out loud not then but I knew that there’d be

not then but I knew that there’d be

not then but I knew that there’d be plenty of laughter back at the lodge

plenty of laughter back at the lodge

plenty of laughter back at the lodge when he told the other guides about the

when he told the other guides about the

when he told the other guides about the crazy canadian woman you just spent the

crazy canadian woman you just spent the

crazy canadian woman you just spent the day with but i had to try so I picked my

day with but i had to try so I picked my

day with but i had to try so I picked my fly

my line it hit its mark I felt the

my line it hit its mark I felt the satisfaction that came with watching the

satisfaction that came with watching the

satisfaction that came with watching the water explode as that fish rose and took

water explode as that fish rose and took

water explode as that fish rose and took the fly boy I love that and even though

the fly boy I love that and even though

the fly boy I love that and even though the rod Bend only lasts for a short time

the rod Bend only lasts for a short time

the rod Bend only lasts for a short time it was incredibly satisfying and I

it was incredibly satisfying and I

it was incredibly satisfying and I thought that maybe I had found the way

thought that maybe I had found the way

thought that maybe I had found the way that I could you know keep on fishing

that I could you know keep on fishing

that I could you know keep on fishing and best of all it wouldn’t hurt the

and best of all it wouldn’t hurt the

and best of all it wouldn’t hurt the fish in any way how do you think it

fish in any way how do you think it

fish in any way how do you think it ended up no you see because before

ended up no you see because before

ended up no you see because before before I got all warm and fuzzy and had

before I got all warm and fuzzy and had

before I got all warm and fuzzy and had my epiphany about this whole fishing

my epiphany about this whole fishing

my epiphany about this whole fishing thing my favorite fish was the Atlantic

thing my favorite fish was the Atlantic

thing my favorite fish was the Atlantic salmon now i’m sort of a west be you

salmon now i’m sort of a west be you

salmon now i’m sort of a west be you know you guys probably steal headers out

know you guys probably steal headers out

know you guys probably steal headers out here but it’s kind of the same thing

here but it’s kind of the same thing

here but it’s kind of the same thing right the atlantic salmon is nor known

right the atlantic salmon is nor known

right the atlantic salmon is nor known by sportsman as the king of fish and not

by sportsman as the king of fish and not

by sportsman as the king of fish and not just because of its beauty strength and

just because of its beauty strength and

just because of its beauty strength and power it’s because it’s incredible

power it’s because it’s incredible

power it’s because it’s incredible journey this fish is born in freshwater

journey this fish is born in freshwater

journey this fish is born in freshwater streams and then it makes its way to the

streams and then it makes its way to the

streams and then it makes its way to the ocean and when it’s ready it goes to its

ocean and when it’s ready it goes to its

ocean and when it’s ready it goes to its Arctic feeding grounds it hangs out

Arctic feeding grounds it hangs out

Arctic feeding grounds it hangs out there for a while and when it’s ready to

there for a while and when it’s ready to

there for a while and when it’s ready to breed it makes the long journey all the

breed it makes the long journey all the

breed it makes the long journey all the way back to the very river where it was

way back to the very river where it was

way back to the very river where it was born now scientists can’t figure out how

born now scientists can’t figure out how

born now scientists can’t figure out how they can do this and watching these fish

they can do this and watching these fish

they can do this and watching these fish mount these waterfalls to get back to

mount these waterfalls to get back to

mount these waterfalls to get back to the very place where they were born

the very place where they were born

the very place where they were born ranks high on the list of nature’s

ranks high on the list of nature’s

ranks high on the list of nature’s wonders there’s only a small amount of

wonders there’s only a small amount of

wonders there’s only a small amount of eggs that survived this epic journey and

eggs that survived this epic journey and

eggs that survived this epic journey and when this fish return you can bet that

when this fish return you can bet that

when this fish return you can bet that they’re tired and they’re weary and they

they’re tired and they’re weary and they

they’re tired and they’re weary and they need to rest to be able to do what

need to rest to be able to do what

need to rest to be able to do what nature has asked of them and that’s to

nature has asked of them and that’s to

nature has asked of them and that’s to reproduce for the next generation but

reproduce for the next generation but

reproduce for the next generation but not even hope

not even hope

not even hope fishing allows for them to do this you

fishing allows for them to do this you

fishing allows for them to do this you know here they are I mean you guys if

know here they are I mean you guys if

know here they are I mean you guys if you’ve seen a wild fish right in there

you’ve seen a wild fish right in there

you’ve seen a wild fish right in there floating in air and they’re resting in

floating in air and they’re resting in

floating in air and they’re resting in this oxygenated water and this is after

this oxygenated water and this is after

this oxygenated water and this is after living in saltwater they’re back in

living in saltwater they’re back in

living in saltwater they’re back in freshwater you know even that their

freshwater you know even that their

freshwater you know even that their bodies can make this fundamental change

bodies can make this fundamental change

bodies can make this fundamental change its extraordinary but hookless fishing

its extraordinary but hookless fishing

its extraordinary but hookless fishing doesn’t allow the fish to regain their

doesn’t allow the fish to regain their

doesn’t allow the fish to regain their strength you know there they are sitting

strength you know there they are sitting

strength you know there they are sitting there when smack a fly hits the water

there when smack a fly hits the water

there when smack a fly hits the water smack smack smack smack day after day

smack smack smack smack day after day

smack smack smack smack day after day week after week these fish are sleep

week after week these fish are sleep

week after week these fish are sleep deprived and harassed it’s tantamount to

deprived and harassed it’s tantamount to

deprived and harassed it’s tantamount to sleep deprivation and harassment in my

sleep deprivation and harassment in my

sleep deprivation and harassment in my opinion it’s very difficult

I just feel that unless I’m going to

I just feel that unless I’m going to take that fish for my own nourishment

take that fish for my own nourishment

take that fish for my own nourishment that I don’t have the right to interfere

that I don’t have the right to interfere

that I don’t have the right to interfere with its life in any way I believe that

with its life in any way I believe that

with its life in any way I believe that the fish and every living thing has its

the fish and every living thing has its

the fish and every living thing has its right to live out its life as nature

right to live out its life as nature

right to live out its life as nature intended so unless I need that fish are

intended so unless I need that fish are

intended so unless I need that fish are my own sustenance I don’t want to

my own sustenance I don’t want to

my own sustenance I don’t want to interfere with its life now you may

interfere with its life now you may

interfere with its life now you may think that my views on fish and fishing

think that my views on fish and fishing

think that my views on fish and fishing or extreme maybe even ridiculous but

or extreme maybe even ridiculous but

or extreme maybe even ridiculous but consider this you know 50 years ago it

consider this you know 50 years ago it

consider this you know 50 years ago it was deemed perfectly acceptable to go to

was deemed perfectly acceptable to go to

was deemed perfectly acceptable to go to Africa and shoot an elephant or shoot a

Africa and shoot an elephant or shoot a

Africa and shoot an elephant or shoot a rhino or shoot a lion cut off its tusks

rhino or shoot a lion cut off its tusks

rhino or shoot a lion cut off its tusks or cut off its head or take its skin get

or cut off its head or take its skin get

or cut off its head or take its skin get a picture with your trophy kill and then

a picture with your trophy kill and then

a picture with your trophy kill and then bring it back home now today in this

bring it back home now today in this

bring it back home now today in this room most of us would find this barbaric

room most of us would find this barbaric

room most of us would find this barbaric I’m not saying that sports fishing is

I’m not saying that sports fishing is

I’m not saying that sports fishing is remotely like big game hunting but what

remotely like big game hunting but what

remotely like big game hunting but what I am saying is that our views about fish

I am saying is that our views about fish

I am saying is that our views about fish and fishing and animals have evolved

and fishing and animals have evolved

and fishing and animals have evolved from the days when we thought they were

from the days when we thought they were

from the days when we thought they were here merely for our own a benefit and

here merely for our own a benefit and

here merely for our own a benefit and they will continue to evolve into the

they will continue to evolve into the

they will continue to evolve into the future it used to be that we lived in

future it used to be that we lived in

future it used to be that we lived in harmony with nature but now because of

harmony with nature but now because of

harmony with nature but now because of science we have learned to exploit

science we have learned to exploit

science we have learned to exploit nature for our own material needs and

nature for our own material needs and

nature for our own material needs and this has created a great problem in my

this has created a great problem in my

this has created a great problem in my opinion we have environmental

opinion we have environmental

opinion we have environmental degradation and issues that are really

degradation and issues that are really

degradation and issues that are really threatening our very existence and if we

threatening our very existence and if we

threatening our very existence and if we want to save this world for the next

want to save this world for the next

want to save this world for the next generation we have to do more than just

generation we have to do more than just

generation we have to do more than just change a few laws we have to

change a few laws we have to

change a few laws we have to fundamentally change your attitude about

fundamentally change your attitude about

fundamentally change your attitude about our place on this earth and the animals

our place on this earth and the animals

our place on this earth and the animals that we share it with so this is my cry

that we share it with so this is my cry

that we share it with so this is my cry for temperance

for temperance

for temperance I beg temperance you know I’m not here

I beg temperance you know I’m not here

I beg temperance you know I’m not here to moralize Gandhi said it best the

to moralize Gandhi said it best the

to moralize Gandhi said it best the greatness of a society and its moral

greatness of a society and its moral

greatness of a society and its moral progress he said can be measured by the

progress he said can be measured by the

progress he said can be measured by the way they treat its animals devolve

way they treat its animals devolve

way they treat its animals devolve that’s an idea we’re sharing god bless

that’s an idea we’re sharing god bless

that’s an idea we’re sharing god bless [Applause]

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