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Emotional Engagement in Learning | Mark Thompson | TEDxLSSC


I wanted to be a reporter I could say it

I wanted to be a reporter I could say it was because of the noble role of the

was because of the noble role of the

was because of the noble role of the public watch dog or championing First

public watch dog or championing First

public watch dog or championing First Amendment freedoms but truth be told I’m

Amendment freedoms but truth be told I’m

Amendment freedoms but truth be told I’m just nosy and I like to know the real

just nosy and I like to know the real

just nosy and I like to know the real story and share the story with people

story and share the story with people

story and share the story with people who don’t know it so we’re all on the

who don’t know it so we’re all on the

who don’t know it so we’re all on the same page so if you think about it it

same page so if you think about it it

same page so if you think about it it wasn’t a big leap for me to become a

wasn’t a big leap for me to become a

wasn’t a big leap for me to become a teacher because that’s also what

teacher because that’s also what

teacher because that’s also what teachers do isn’t it they know the real

teachers do isn’t it they know the real

teachers do isn’t it they know the real story and they try to bring everybody up

story and they try to bring everybody up

story and they try to bring everybody up to speed after a few years in the

to speed after a few years in the

to speed after a few years in the classroom I came to love education so

classroom I came to love education so

classroom I came to love education so much that not only was I a teacher I

much that not only was I a teacher I

much that not only was I a teacher I became a teacher of teachers and worked

became a teacher of teachers and worked

became a teacher of teachers and worked in professional development now I say

in professional development now I say

in professional development now I say teacher of teachers loosely because

teacher of teachers loosely because

teacher of teachers loosely because honestly I learned so much more from the

honestly I learned so much more from the

honestly I learned so much more from the teachers that I worked with than they

teachers that I worked with than they

teachers that I worked with than they learned from me and I had the privilege

learned from me and I had the privilege

learned from me and I had the privilege of working with educators from across

of working with educators from across

of working with educators from across the United States and eight countries

the United States and eight countries

the United States and eight countries from Afghanistan to Uganda and I learned

from Afghanistan to Uganda and I learned

from Afghanistan to Uganda and I learned that no matter what campus you go onto

that no matter what campus you go onto

that no matter what campus you go onto no matter what school you’re at if you

no matter what school you’re at if you

no matter what school you’re at if you ask the staff who’s the best teacher

ask the staff who’s the best teacher

ask the staff who’s the best teacher here they can always tell you and when I

here they can always tell you and when I

here they can always tell you and when I ask well what makes them the best

ask well what makes them the best

ask well what makes them the best teacher they give you an answer along

teacher they give you an answer along

teacher they give you an answer along the lines of they always get results but

the lines of they always get results but

the lines of they always get results but there’s nothing quite like an answer

there’s nothing quite like an answer

there’s nothing quite like an answer that just leads to another question

that just leads to another question

that just leads to another question which is why do they always get results

which is why do they always get results

which is why do they always get results what makes great teachers great and what

what makes great teachers great and what

what makes great teachers great and what makes their instruction meaningful so

makes their instruction meaningful so

makes their instruction meaningful so even though I was heading an

even though I was heading an

even though I was heading an international nonprofit at the time the

international nonprofit at the time the

international nonprofit at the time the nosy reporter in me got the best of me

nosy reporter in me got the best of me

nosy reporter in me got the best of me because this was a question I wanted to

because this was a question I wanted to

because this was a question I wanted to have answered so I did a lot of research

have answered so I did a lot of research

have answered so I did a lot of research and I was especially excited by the work

and I was especially excited by the work

and I was especially excited by the work of dr. William Glasser and what he wrote

of dr. William Glasser and what he wrote

of dr. William Glasser and what he wrote about quality schools but that just made

about quality schools but that just made

about quality schools but that just made me want to know more so I decided to

me want to know more so I decided to

me want to know more so I decided to take an opportunity to embed myself

take an opportunity to embed myself

take an opportunity to embed myself a public inner-city high school in

a public inner-city high school in

a public inner-city high school in Brooklyn New York for two years where I

Brooklyn New York for two years where I

Brooklyn New York for two years where I wouldn’t just do research as a casual

wouldn’t just do research as a casual

wouldn’t just do research as a casual observer

observer

observer I would actually roll up my sleeves and

I would actually roll up my sleeves and

I would actually roll up my sleeves and be in the mix to really focus on what

be in the mix to really focus on what

be in the mix to really focus on what makes instruction meaningful and learn

makes instruction meaningful and learn

makes instruction meaningful and learn from other teachers after my time in

from other teachers after my time in

from other teachers after my time in Brooklyn I embedded myself for an

Brooklyn I embedded myself for an

Brooklyn I embedded myself for an additional year at a private middle

additional year at a private middle

additional year at a private middle school in Tampa Florida my thinking was

school in Tampa Florida my thinking was

school in Tampa Florida my thinking was that the polar opposite demographics

that the polar opposite demographics

that the polar opposite demographics would help bring validity to my findings

would help bring validity to my findings

would help bring validity to my findings after three years embedded in a

after three years embedded in a

after three years embedded in a classroom and after a year of analyzing

classroom and after a year of analyzing

classroom and after a year of analyzing the results I can say with confidence I

the results I can say with confidence I

the results I can say with confidence I know what makes instruction meaningful

know what makes instruction meaningful

know what makes instruction meaningful and the answer shocks me it turns out

and the answer shocks me it turns out

and the answer shocks me it turns out that we all learn exactly the same way

that we all learn exactly the same way

that we all learn exactly the same way now this flew in the face of years of

now this flew in the face of years of

now this flew in the face of years of instruction that I’d received that

instruction that I’d received that

instruction that I’d received that everybody learns differently now

everybody learns differently now

everybody learns differently now learning styles prior knowledge social

learning styles prior knowledge social

learning styles prior knowledge social economics factors all of these come into

economics factors all of these come into

economics factors all of these come into play in how learning is manifested but

play in how learning is manifested but

play in how learning is manifested but whether you are a baby boomer genex or

whether you are a baby boomer genex or

whether you are a baby boomer genex or millennial inner-city suburban every

millennial inner-city suburban every

millennial inner-city suburban every human being will master content let me

human being will master content let me

human being will master content let me say that again every human being will

say that again every human being will

say that again every human being will master content if instruction has five

master content if instruction has five

master content if instruction has five critical characteristics first truly

critical characteristics first truly

critical characteristics first truly meaningful instruction is real-world and

meaningful instruction is real-world and

meaningful instruction is real-world and by that I mean the student can see a

by that I mean the student can see a

by that I mean the student can see a reason outside of the classroom for

reason outside of the classroom for

reason outside of the classroom for learning what’s going on inside of the

learning what’s going on inside of the

learning what’s going on inside of the classroom second meaningful instruction

classroom second meaningful instruction

classroom second meaningful instruction is hard work

is hard work

is hard work the students are not throwing it

the students are not throwing it

the students are not throwing it together the night before they’ve been

together the night before they’ve been

together the night before they’ve been working on it a long time because

working on it a long time because

working on it a long time because there’s a real risk of failure third

there’s a real risk of failure third

there’s a real risk of failure third meaningful instruction is unpredictable

meaningful instruction is unpredictable

meaningful instruction is unpredictable the answer cannot be looked up in the

the answer cannot be looked up in the

the answer cannot be looked up in the back of the book

back of the book

back of the book because it’s not there so the student

because it’s not there so the student

because it’s not there so the student doesn’t know how the work is supposed to

doesn’t know how the work is supposed to

doesn’t know how the work is supposed to come out it’s especially unpredictable

come out it’s especially unpredictable

come out it’s especially unpredictable if the teacher doesn’t know how the work

if the teacher doesn’t know how the work

if the teacher doesn’t know how the work is supposed to come out fourth

is supposed to come out fourth

is supposed to come out fourth meaningful instruction is student-driven

meaningful instruction is student-driven

meaningful instruction is student-driven meaning the learner is making

meaning the learner is making

meaning the learner is making substantive decisions about how the work

substantive decisions about how the work

substantive decisions about how the work is done and how they demonstrate mastery

is done and how they demonstrate mastery

is done and how they demonstrate mastery of what they’ve learned five and this is

of what they’ve learned five and this is

of what they’ve learned five and this is the big one truly meaningful instruction

the big one truly meaningful instruction

the big one truly meaningful instruction is an emotional experience for the

is an emotional experience for the

is an emotional experience for the learner meaning that the student has an

learner meaning that the student has an

learner meaning that the student has an emotional interaction with the content

emotional interaction with the content

emotional interaction with the content while they learn it we’ve always known

while they learn it we’ve always known

while they learn it we’ve always known that when your brain takes in a new

that when your brain takes in a new

that when your brain takes in a new piece of information the first thing it

piece of information the first thing it

piece of information the first thing it does is it looks for a pattern what is

does is it looks for a pattern what is

does is it looks for a pattern what is this like so it knows where to file it

this like so it knows where to file it

this like so it knows where to file it in long term memory if it doesn’t see a

in long term memory if it doesn’t see a

in long term memory if it doesn’t see a pattern it will file it into short-term

pattern it will file it into short-term

pattern it will file it into short-term memory to buy you time after a certain

memory to buy you time after a certain

memory to buy you time after a certain period of time if you haven’t figured

period of time if you haven’t figured

period of time if you haven’t figured out where to file it over here it’s

out where to file it over here it’s

out where to file it over here it’s going to dump it out of short-term

going to dump it out of short-term

going to dump it out of short-term memory and is completely forgotten

memory and is completely forgotten

memory and is completely forgotten hopefully after the quiz in that class

hopefully after the quiz in that class

hopefully after the quiz in that class and not before but it’s gone research by

and not before but it’s gone research by

and not before but it’s gone research by Eric Jensen and dr. Pierce Howard shows

Eric Jensen and dr. Pierce Howard shows

Eric Jensen and dr. Pierce Howard shows that when your brain takes in a new

that when your brain takes in a new

that when your brain takes in a new piece of information in an emotional

piece of information in an emotional

piece of information in an emotional setting that information bypasses

setting that information bypasses

setting that information bypasses short-term memory and goes directly into

short-term memory and goes directly into

short-term memory and goes directly into long-term memory that’s quite a trick

long-term memory that’s quite a trick

long-term memory that’s quite a trick isn’t it wouldn’t it be great as a

isn’t it wouldn’t it be great as a

isn’t it wouldn’t it be great as a teacher or a parent to say hey I’ve got

teacher or a parent to say hey I’ve got

teacher or a parent to say hey I’ve got some really important information in

some really important information in

some really important information in fact I’m just gonna open up your brain

fact I’m just gonna open up your brain

fact I’m just gonna open up your brain and stick it right into long-term memory

and stick it right into long-term memory

and stick it right into long-term memory so you’ll always have it you’re welcome

it turns out we can do just that

it turns out we can do just that many years ago I was a sophomore at

many years ago I was a sophomore at

many years ago I was a sophomore at Piper high school in Sunrise Florida I

Piper high school in Sunrise Florida I

Piper high school in Sunrise Florida I was sitting in a biology class taught by

was sitting in a biology class taught by

was sitting in a biology class taught by mr. Tony Oh Rico and on this particular

mr. Tony Oh Rico and on this particular

mr. Tony Oh Rico and on this particular day he was talking about scalp fungus

day he was talking about scalp fungus

day he was talking about scalp fungus and how it gets transmitted from one

and how it gets transmitted from one

and how it gets transmitted from one person to another okay some of you are

person to another okay some of you are

person to another okay some of you are already having an emotional interaction

already having an emotional interaction

already having an emotional interaction with the content that’s terrific he said

with the content that’s terrific he said

with the content that’s terrific he said I want you to imagine this five-year-old

I want you to imagine this five-year-old

I want you to imagine this five-year-old kid who has a scalp fungus and you know

kid who has a scalp fungus and you know

kid who has a scalp fungus and you know because there’s a hole in his hair where

because there’s a hole in his hair where

because there’s a hole in his hair where you can see his scalp and he goes in to

you can see his scalp and he goes in to

you can see his scalp and he goes in to watch a movie in a theater and he’s

watch a movie in a theater and he’s

watch a movie in a theater and he’s crunches down in the seat and puts his

crunches down in the seat and puts his

crunches down in the seat and puts his head on the back he watches the movie he

head on the back he watches the movie he

head on the back he watches the movie he leaves you come in for the next showing

leaves you come in for the next showing

leaves you come in for the next showing you scrunch down in the seat you get the

you scrunch down in the seat you get the

you scrunch down in the seat you get the scalp fungus like 50 of you just shot

scalp fungus like 50 of you just shot

scalp fungus like 50 of you just shot straight up in your seats

straight up in your seats

straight up in your seats I don’t know what grade I got on the

I don’t know what grade I got on the

I don’t know what grade I got on the quiz that came after but I guarantee you

quiz that came after but I guarantee you

quiz that came after but I guarantee you I got the scalp fungus question right to

I got the scalp fungus question right to

I got the scalp fungus question right to this day I can’t scrunch down in a

this day I can’t scrunch down in a

this day I can’t scrunch down in a theater seat because mr. Rico is lodged

theater seat because mr. Rico is lodged

theater seat because mr. Rico is lodged in my brain what a gift

the one that keeps giving teachers

the one that keeps giving teachers cannot write emotional interaction in

cannot write emotional interaction in

cannot write emotional interaction in the content in their lesson plan that’s

the content in their lesson plan that’s

the content in their lesson plan that’s unfortunate but they can create

unfortunate but they can create

unfortunate but they can create conditions like mr. Rico did where it’s

conditions like mr. Rico did where it’s

conditions like mr. Rico did where it’s likely for emotional interaction to

likely for emotional interaction to

likely for emotional interaction to happen what if you’re not a teacher what

happen what if you’re not a teacher what

happen what if you’re not a teacher what if you’re a parent or a grandparent or

if you’re a parent or a grandparent or

if you’re a parent or a grandparent or an older sibling you have a role to play

an older sibling you have a role to play

an older sibling you have a role to play two years later when my daughter Natalie

two years later when my daughter Natalie

two years later when my daughter Natalie was in third grade

was in third grade

was in third grade she had a science project to do and she

she had a science project to do and she

she had a science project to do and she was always interested in cars even from

was always interested in cars even from

was always interested in cars even from a young age and she decided she wanted

a young age and she decided she wanted

a young age and she decided she wanted to see if the width of a wheelbase on a

to see if the width of a wheelbase on a

to see if the width of a wheelbase on a car would make it more stable so her

car would make it more stable so her

car would make it more stable so her brother Philip had a racetrack set and

brother Philip had a racetrack set and

brother Philip had a racetrack set and we commandeered that and we set it up in

we commandeered that and we set it up in

we commandeered that and we set it up in her room and she started running cars

her room and she started running cars

her room and she started running cars around the track and they would fly off

around the track and they would fly off

around the track and they would fly off and she’d count how many times they’d

and she’d count how many times they’d

and she’d count how many times they’d fly off on a curve and after every time

fly off on a curve and after every time

fly off on a curve and after every time she’d pushed the wheelbase out just a

she’d pushed the wheelbase out just a

she’d pushed the wheelbase out just a little wider and what she discovered was

little wider and what she discovered was

little wider and what she discovered was that the wider the wheelbase the fewer

that the wider the wheelbase the fewer

that the wider the wheelbase the fewer times the car will fly off the track on

times the car will fly off the track on

times the car will fly off the track on a curve when it set speed she called it

a curve when it set speed she called it

a curve when it set speed she called it fast on fours and she references that

fast on fours and she references that

fast on fours and she references that science project to this day even though

science project to this day even though

science project to this day even though she’s almost 30 there was a lot of

she’s almost 30 there was a lot of

she’s almost 30 there was a lot of emotion in the process of learning that

emotion in the process of learning that

emotion in the process of learning that there was the excitement of running the

there was the excitement of running the

there was the excitement of running the experiments there was the thrill of

experiments there was the thrill of

experiments there was the thrill of doing important work that was uniquely

doing important work that was uniquely

doing important work that was uniquely hers and I like to think there was some

hers and I like to think there was some

hers and I like to think there was some pretty awesome father-daughter time

pretty awesome father-daughter time

pretty awesome father-daughter time involved as well and I know that’s what

involved as well and I know that’s what

involved as well and I know that’s what makes it stand out in my mind so in the

makes it stand out in my mind so in the

makes it stand out in my mind so in the process of that she learned an important

process of that she learned an important

process of that she learned an important principle of physics so how can we help

principle of physics so how can we help

principle of physics so how can we help cause meaningful instruction to occur in

cause meaningful instruction to occur in

cause meaningful instruction to occur in even greater numbers throughout our

even greater numbers throughout our

even greater numbers throughout our schools well for one thing policymakers

schools well for one thing policymakers

schools well for one thing policymakers can help facilitate this by shifting the

can help facilitate this by shifting the

can help facilitate this by shifting the focus away from high-stakes testing

focus away from high-stakes testing

focus away from high-stakes testing micromanagement and compliance

micromanagement and compliance

micromanagement and compliance back to where it should be supporting

back to where it should be supporting

back to where it should be supporting teachers in the classroom in creating

teachers in the classroom in creating

teachers in the classroom in creating truly meaningful and struck

truly meaningful and struck

truly meaningful and struck second second if you are an

second second if you are an

second second if you are an administrator you’re under a lot of heat

administrator you’re under a lot of heat

administrator you’re under a lot of heat especially in the current political

especially in the current political

especially in the current political climate how our government and

climate how our government and

climate how our government and communities are looking at schools your

communities are looking at schools your

communities are looking at schools your main job as an administrator is to act

main job as an administrator is to act

main job as an administrator is to act like styrofoam insulate your teachers

like styrofoam insulate your teachers

like styrofoam insulate your teachers from the heat don’t pass it on because

from the heat don’t pass it on because

from the heat don’t pass it on because when teachers feel safe and protected

when teachers feel safe and protected

when teachers feel safe and protected they will unleash their creativity in

they will unleash their creativity in

they will unleash their creativity in the classroom and indulge in their art

the classroom and indulge in their art

the classroom and indulge in their art with reckless abandon and if you are a

with reckless abandon and if you are a

with reckless abandon and if you are a parent a grandparent or an older sibling

parent a grandparent or an older sibling

parent a grandparent or an older sibling you can play an important part when you

you can play an important part when you

you can play an important part when you have your student come home in the

have your student come home in the

have your student come home in the afternoon from school help them with

afternoon from school help them with

afternoon from school help them with their homework don’t just make sure that

their homework don’t just make sure that

their homework don’t just make sure that it gets done but sit with them and

it gets done but sit with them and

it gets done but sit with them and actively learn with them many parents

actively learn with them many parents

actively learn with them many parents are hesitant to do this because they

are hesitant to do this because they

are hesitant to do this because they don’t want their child to see that they

don’t want their child to see that they

don’t want their child to see that they don’t know something but there’s no more

don’t know something but there’s no more

don’t know something but there’s no more powerful and example that we can set for

powerful and example that we can set for

powerful and example that we can set for young people in our homes than to sit

young people in our homes than to sit

young people in our homes than to sit with them and actively learn and show

with them and actively learn and show

with them and actively learn and show them that the process of learning is a

them that the process of learning is a

them that the process of learning is a gift and something to be cherished

gift and something to be cherished

gift and something to be cherished throughout life if I’ve done my job well

throughout life if I’ve done my job well

throughout life if I’ve done my job well today you’ve had an emotional

today you’ve had an emotional

today you’ve had an emotional interaction with the concept somewhere

interaction with the concept somewhere

interaction with the concept somewhere along the way and maybe years from now

along the way and maybe years from now

along the way and maybe years from now you’ll be telling somebody one time I

you’ll be telling somebody one time I

you’ll be telling somebody one time I heard this amazing TED Talks I can’t

heard this amazing TED Talks I can’t

heard this amazing TED Talks I can’t remember that guy’s name but I remember

remember that guy’s name but I remember

remember that guy’s name but I remember one thing for sure

one thing for sure

one thing for sure never scrunch down it at the other seat

never scrunch down it at the other seat

never scrunch down it at the other seat thank you

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