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Drawing The Line On Educational Disadvantage | Adam Inder | TEDxUWA


I’d like to start by sharing a story

I’d like to start by sharing a story there’s a coast and the two schools

there’s a coast and the two schools

there’s a coast and the two schools school a and school B between these two

school a and school B between these two

school a and school B between these two schools there’s a main road the boundary

schools there’s a main road the boundary

schools there’s a main road the boundary line which dictates which students in

line which dictates which students in

line which dictates which students in which houses go to which school runs

which houses go to which school runs

which houses go to which school runs along the main road because school a is

along the main road because school a is

along the main road because school a is closer to the coast the median house

closer to the coast the median house

closer to the coast the median house price is higher and therefore the

price is higher and therefore the

price is higher and therefore the students that go to school a have a

students that go to school a have a

students that go to school a have a higher level of socioeconomic advantage

higher level of socioeconomic advantage

higher level of socioeconomic advantage so green here means upper-class yellow

so green here means upper-class yellow

so green here means upper-class yellow means middle class and red means lower

means middle class and red means lower

means middle class and red means lower class because school B is further from

class because school B is further from

class because school B is further from the coast the level of advantage for

the coast the level of advantage for

the coast the level of advantage for students at school B is lower relative

students at school B is lower relative

students at school B is lower relative to school A because school B is

to school A because school B is

to school A because school B is perceived to have more behavioral

perceived to have more behavioral

perceived to have more behavioral problems and school a is placed in a

problems and school a is placed in a

problems and school a is placed in a nicer area so it seemed to have better

nicer area so it seemed to have better

nicer area so it seemed to have better resources high achieving students from

resources high achieving students from

resources high achieving students from school B desire to go to school a as

school B desire to go to school a as

school B desire to go to school a as they believe they’ll have better

they believe they’ll have better

they believe they’ll have better outcomes and better opportunities at

outcomes and better opportunities at

outcomes and better opportunities at school a and what this does is it

school a and what this does is it

school a and what this does is it creates a large imbalance in the level

creates a large imbalance in the level

creates a large imbalance in the level of advantage between school a and school

of advantage between school a and school

of advantage between school a and school B but what I haven’t told you is that

B but what I haven’t told you is that

B but what I haven’t told you is that school B is the school that I teach at

school B is the school that I teach at

school B is the school that I teach at as was mentioned before my name is Adam

as was mentioned before my name is Adam

as was mentioned before my name is Adam endo and I’m the head of mathematics and

endo and I’m the head of mathematics and

endo and I’m the head of mathematics and science at a disadvantaged school in

science at a disadvantaged school in

science at a disadvantaged school in metropolitan Perth I started out

metropolitan Perth I started out

metropolitan Perth I started out studying chemical engineering and

studying chemical engineering and

studying chemical engineering and chemistry here at UWA I then went on to

chemistry here at UWA I then went on to

chemistry here at UWA I then went on to do the teach for Australia leadership

do the teach for Australia leadership

do the teach for Australia leadership development program doing my masters of

development program doing my masters of

development program doing my masters of teaching following this I’ve taught it

teaching following this I’ve taught it

teaching following this I’ve taught it to socioeconomically disadvantaged

to socioeconomically disadvantaged

to socioeconomically disadvantaged schools here in Perth when I was

schools here in Perth when I was

schools here in Perth when I was studying chemical engineering

studying chemical engineering

studying chemical engineering one of my friends made a rather crude

one of my friends made a rather crude

one of my friends made a rather crude generalization that stuck with me to

generalization that stuck with me to

generalization that stuck with me to this day and that’s the electrical

this day and that’s the electrical

this day and that’s the electrical engineers they deal with the electrical

engineers they deal with the electrical

engineers they deal with the electrical parts mechanical engineers deal with the

parts mechanical engineers deal with the

parts mechanical engineers deal with the mechanical part or the moving parts

mechanical part or the moving parts

mechanical part or the moving parts civil and structural engineers deal with

civil and structural engineers deal with

civil and structural engineers deal with the non moving parts the chemical

the non moving parts the chemical

the non moving parts the chemical engineers

engineers

engineers they look at the whole thing they look

they look at the whole thing they look

they look at the whole thing they look at the big picture from start to finish

at the big picture from start to finish

at the big picture from start to finish and the purpose of chemical engineering

and the purpose of chemical engineering

and the purpose of chemical engineering is to take raw unrefined resources and

is to take raw unrefined resources and

is to take raw unrefined resources and materials and put them through a process

materials and put them through a process

materials and put them through a process that allows them to become more refined

that allows them to become more refined

that allows them to become more refined and more usable I’m not in chemical

and more usable I’m not in chemical

and more usable I’m not in chemical engineering but I think I’m doing

engineering but I think I’m doing

engineering but I think I’m doing something a little bit smaller but not

something a little bit smaller but not

something a little bit smaller but not with inanimate objects

with inanimate objects

with inanimate objects with people how do we take raw students

with people how do we take raw students

with people how do we take raw students for lack of a better term and value add

for lack of a better term and value add

for lack of a better term and value add to them so that they’re more refined and

to them so that they’re more refined and

to them so that they’re more refined and can contribute more positively to

can contribute more positively to

can contribute more positively to society I think the answer lies

society I think the answer lies

society I think the answer lies somewhere in here and what I believe

somewhere in here and what I believe

somewhere in here and what I believe this should look like is dictated by my

this should look like is dictated by my

this should look like is dictated by my vision for education in Australia that

vision for education in Australia that

vision for education in Australia that all children regardless of background

all children regardless of background

all children regardless of background are entitled to an excellent education

are entitled to an excellent education

are entitled to an excellent education there’s a lot of research being done at

there’s a lot of research being done at

there’s a lot of research being done at the moment about what an excellent

the moment about what an excellent

the moment about what an excellent education looks like as dictated by high

education looks like as dictated by high

education looks like as dictated by high rates of learning but there’s another

rates of learning but there’s another

rates of learning but there’s another part to this how every student at every

part to this how every student at every

part to this how every student at every school can have access to that which

school can have access to that which

school can have access to that which we’re offering and this is the part that

we’re offering and this is the part that

we’re offering and this is the part that I’d like to talk about today more

I’d like to talk about today more

I’d like to talk about today more advantaged schools typically tend to

advantaged schools typically tend to

advantaged schools typically tend to have access to better quality teaching

have access to better quality teaching

have access to better quality teaching better resources and also a more

better resources and also a more

better resources and also a more positive school climate there was a

positive school climate there was a

positive school climate there was a study done by the program of

study done by the program of

study done by the program of international students assessments Pisa

international students assessments Pisa

international students assessments Pisa and they looked at the average school

and they looked at the average school

and they looked at the average school science scores and compared the

science scores and compared the

science scores and compared the difference between advantaged schools

difference between advantaged schools

difference between advantaged schools and disadvantaged schools and what they

and disadvantaged schools and what they

and disadvantaged schools and what they found was that the difference between

found was that the difference between

found was that the difference between advantaged and disadvantaged schools was

advantaged and disadvantaged schools was

advantaged and disadvantaged schools was a hundred points this equates to about

a hundred points this equates to about

a hundred points this equates to about three years worth of learning so you

three years worth of learning so you

three years worth of learning so you could take one student in an advantage

could take one student in an advantage

could take one student in an advantage school and another in a disadvantaged

school and another in a disadvantaged

school and another in a disadvantaged school and what you would find is the

school and what you would find is the

school and what you would find is the the difference in science knowledge

the difference in science knowledge

the difference in science knowledge would be roughly three years which is

would be roughly three years which is

would be roughly three years which is pretty significant

it’s not just about academic outcomes

it’s not just about academic outcomes another issue we have to be mindful of

another issue we have to be mindful of

another issue we have to be mindful of is something called social segregation

is something called social segregation

is something called social segregation which put simply is just the splitting

which put simply is just the splitting

which put simply is just the splitting of social classes so upper classes

of social classes so upper classes

of social classes so upper classes middle classes and lower classes all

middle classes and lower classes all

middle classes and lower classes all being separated from each other in the

being separated from each other in the

being separated from each other in the same study by Pisa out of 71 countries

same study by Pisa out of 71 countries

same study by Pisa out of 71 countries that were surveyed first being the most

that were surveyed first being the most

that were surveyed first being the most socially segregated the most splitting

socially segregated the most splitting

socially segregated the most splitting between classes Australia was actually

between classes Australia was actually

between classes Australia was actually ranked eighth which might be surprising

ranked eighth which might be surprising

ranked eighth which might be surprising to some of you Trevor cobalt on the save

to some of you Trevor cobalt on the save

to some of you Trevor cobalt on the save our schools website referred to social

our schools website referred to social

our schools website referred to social segregation as a double jeopardy effect

segregation as a double jeopardy effect

segregation as a double jeopardy effect he said that not only a student’s

he said that not only a student’s

he said that not only a student’s disadvantage because of their conditions

disadvantage because of their conditions

disadvantage because of their conditions at home

at home

at home when they come from a disadvantaged

when they come from a disadvantaged

when they come from a disadvantaged background but also when they’re

background but also when they’re

background but also when they’re socially segregated more disadvantaged

socially segregated more disadvantaged

socially segregated more disadvantaged is imposed on them as well so in other

is imposed on them as well so in other

is imposed on them as well so in other words more social segregation leads to

words more social segregation leads to

words more social segregation leads to worse educational outcomes for students

worse educational outcomes for students

worse educational outcomes for students and also a wider achievement gap between

and also a wider achievement gap between

and also a wider achievement gap between those that advantaged and those that are

those that advantaged and those that are

those that advantaged and those that are disadvantaged but it’s not just academic

disadvantaged but it’s not just academic

disadvantaged but it’s not just academic outcomes as I said before social

outcomes as I said before social

outcomes as I said before social segregation is shown to lead to poorer

segregation is shown to lead to poorer

segregation is shown to lead to poorer expectations for the future for those

expectations for the future for those

expectations for the future for those students from disadvantaged backgrounds

students from disadvantaged backgrounds

students from disadvantaged backgrounds it’s shown to lead to greater social

it’s shown to lead to greater social

it’s shown to lead to greater social intolerance within communities and

intolerance within communities and

intolerance within communities and workplaces and also damaged social

workplaces and also damaged social

workplaces and also damaged social empathy as well as decreased capacity

empathy as well as decreased capacity

empathy as well as decreased capacity for social groups to coexist so it’s not

for social groups to coexist so it’s not

for social groups to coexist so it’s not just about how students are doing well

just about how students are doing well

just about how students are doing well in school but it has implications for

in school but it has implications for

in school but it has implications for how different classes cultures and

how different classes cultures and

how different classes cultures and groups actually integrate in society

groups actually integrate in society

groups actually integrate in society which has really big implications for

which has really big implications for

which has really big implications for how productive we are as a country and

how productive we are as a country and

how productive we are as a country and as a community so a lot of people try

as a community so a lot of people try

as a community so a lot of people try and solve this and the first thing that

and solve this and the first thing that

and solve this and the first thing that people jump to is that why don’t we

people jump to is that why don’t we

people jump to is that why don’t we throw more money why don’t we put more

throw more money why don’t we put more

throw more money why don’t we put more resources into schools to help fix this

resources into schools to help fix this

resources into schools to help fix this and what I can tell you that is that

and what I can tell you that is that

and what I can tell you that is that factoring in inflation increased wage

factoring in inflation increased wage

factoring in inflation increased wage inflation in the education system and

inflation in the education system and

inflation in the education system and also the increased population of those

also the increased population of those

also the increased population of those that are attending school in Australia

that are attending school in Australia

that are attending school in Australia the amount of funding going into the

the amount of funding going into the

the amount of funding going into the education system has actually steadily

education system has actually steadily

education system has actually steadily increased over time

increased over time

increased over time but if we look at results for

but if we look at results for

but if we look at results for high-stakes testing such as year nine

high-stakes testing such as year nine

high-stakes testing such as year nine NAPLAN what we see here is that there’s

NAPLAN what we see here is that there’s

NAPLAN what we see here is that there’s a stagnation those that are meeting the

a stagnation those that are meeting the

a stagnation those that are meeting the national minimum standard the percentage

national minimum standard the percentage

national minimum standard the percentage for that is actually relatively the same

for that is actually relatively the same

for that is actually relatively the same no matter what the strand is no matter

no matter what the strand is no matter

no matter what the strand is no matter what area they’re testing the amount of

what area they’re testing the amount of

what area they’re testing the amount of students meeting that standard is fairly

students meeting that standard is fairly

students meeting that standard is fairly stagnant this might just be for year

stagnant this might just be for year

stagnant this might just be for year nine but I can assure you that it’s

nine but I can assure you that it’s

nine but I can assure you that it’s pretty much the same for all the

pretty much the same for all the

pretty much the same for all the different year groups that are tested so

different year groups that are tested so

different year groups that are tested so what I’m proposing is that it’s not

what I’m proposing is that it’s not

what I’m proposing is that it’s not necessarily money that’s the be-all and

necessarily money that’s the be-all and

necessarily money that’s the be-all and end-all solution sometimes it helps but

end-all solution sometimes it helps but

end-all solution sometimes it helps but what I think we need to be looking at is

what I think we need to be looking at is

what I think we need to be looking at is how do we better use the resources and

how do we better use the resources and

how do we better use the resources and money that we already have to produce

money that we already have to produce

money that we already have to produce the best outcomes possible so back to

the best outcomes possible so back to

the best outcomes possible so back to this problem I told you before that the

this problem I told you before that the

this problem I told you before that the boundary line that separates school a

boundary line that separates school a

boundary line that separates school a and school B runs along the main road

and school B runs along the main road

and school B runs along the main road what I propose we do in this situation

what I propose we do in this situation

what I propose we do in this situation is we put it perpendicular to the main

is we put it perpendicular to the main

is we put it perpendicular to the main road what this means is that school a

road what this means is that school a

road what this means is that school a and school B both share the coastline so

and school B both share the coastline so

and school B both share the coastline so there’s a bit of a reshuffle in terms of

there’s a bit of a reshuffle in terms of

there’s a bit of a reshuffle in terms of the advantage of the students attending

the advantage of the students attending

the advantage of the students attending those schools it might not be a perfect

those schools it might not be a perfect

those schools it might not be a perfect once in reality but I think it’s going

once in reality but I think it’s going

once in reality but I think it’s going to reduce the the risk of students

to reduce the the risk of students

to reduce the the risk of students wanting to move to another school

wanting to move to another school

wanting to move to another school because they perceive it as being better

this is just one solution to one unique

this is just one solution to one unique problem and what I’d like to do is share

problem and what I’d like to do is share

problem and what I’d like to do is share one area that can help to reduce the

one area that can help to reduce the

one area that can help to reduce the effects of socio-economic disadvantage

effects of socio-economic disadvantage

effects of socio-economic disadvantage in schools and use my own schools

in schools and use my own schools

in schools and use my own schools examples to show how we make that happen

examples to show how we make that happen

examples to show how we make that happen this area I’d like to focus on is the

this area I’d like to focus on is the

this area I’d like to focus on is the supportive school climate and an

supportive school climate and an

supportive school climate and an environment for learning school climate

environment for learning school climate

environment for learning school climate or a positive school climate has been

or a positive school climate has been

or a positive school climate has been shown to narrow achievement gaps not

shown to narrow achievement gaps not

shown to narrow achievement gaps not just between advantaged and

just between advantaged and

just between advantaged and disadvantaged students but also between

disadvantaged students but also between

disadvantaged students but also between high achieving and low achieving

high achieving and low achieving

high achieving and low achieving students so positive school climate is

students so positive school climate is

students so positive school climate is used to useful no matter what school

used to useful no matter what school

used to useful no matter what school you’re in it helps to decrease the gap

you’re in it helps to decrease the gap

you’re in it helps to decrease the gap between students who have a difference

between students who have a difference

between students who have a difference in how they’re achieving at the school

in how they’re achieving at the school

in how they’re achieving at the school that I’m teaching at our school vision

that I’m teaching at our school vision

that I’m teaching at our school vision is centered on in

is centered on in

is centered on in adding students to learn what this means

adding students to learn what this means

adding students to learn what this means is that students aren’t coerced what we

is that students aren’t coerced what we

is that students aren’t coerced what we do is we build a climate where students

do is we build a climate where students

do is we build a climate where students want to be invited in where they have

want to be invited in where they have

want to be invited in where they have buy-in and have a sense of ownership

buy-in and have a sense of ownership

buy-in and have a sense of ownership over the learning process how we target

over the learning process how we target

over the learning process how we target these care areas of improvement is based

these care areas of improvement is based

these care areas of improvement is based on five major values these are

on five major values these are

on five major values these are intentionality optimism care respect and

intentionality optimism care respect and

intentionality optimism care respect and Trust so everything we do is through the

Trust so everything we do is through the

Trust so everything we do is through the lens of intentionality care optimism

lens of intentionality care optimism

lens of intentionality care optimism respect and Trust when we engage with

respect and Trust when we engage with

respect and Trust when we engage with students when we engage with colleagues

students when we engage with colleagues

students when we engage with colleagues is that with care is it with optimism

is that with care is it with optimism

is that with care is it with optimism every decision that we make every policy

every decision that we make every policy

every decision that we make every policy that we change its intentional and we do

that we change its intentional and we do

that we change its intentional and we do it with optimism we do it with respect

it with optimism we do it with respect

it with optimism we do it with respect trust at the center of this using it as

trust at the center of this using it as

trust at the center of this using it as a lens for change what we decide to

a lens for change what we decide to

a lens for change what we decide to change and what we target is what we

change and what we target is what we

change and what we target is what we call the five PS people places policies

call the five PS people places policies

call the five PS people places policies programs and processes these are the

programs and processes these are the

programs and processes these are the five things that we always target and

five things that we always target and

five things that we always target and reflect on to make sure that when we’re

reflect on to make sure that when we’re

reflect on to make sure that when we’re changing we’re very specific in what we

changing we’re very specific in what we

changing we’re very specific in what we want to change making sure that each of

want to change making sure that each of

want to change making sure that each of those changes are intentional caring

those changes are intentional caring

those changes are intentional caring optimistic respectful and trusting so

optimistic respectful and trusting so

optimistic respectful and trusting so let me give you an example if a students

let me give you an example if a students

let me give you an example if a students below benchmark if they’re getting a D

below benchmark if they’re getting a D

below benchmark if they’re getting a D or e grade if we notice they’ve slipped

or e grade if we notice they’ve slipped

or e grade if we notice they’ve slipped behind what they’re normally achieving

behind what they’re normally achieving

behind what they’re normally achieving whatever that is and that student needs

whatever that is and that student needs

whatever that is and that student needs to be caught up what we do is we look at

to be caught up what we do is we look at

to be caught up what we do is we look at data we look at how classes are tracking

data we look at how classes are tracking

data we look at how classes are tracking we look at how individuals are tracking

we look at how individuals are tracking

we look at how individuals are tracking we look at how the cohorts tracking

we look at how the cohorts tracking

we look at how the cohorts tracking we’re constantly looking at data every

we’re constantly looking at data every

we’re constantly looking at data every five weeks so we have a really clear

five weeks so we have a really clear

five weeks so we have a really clear picture and a really clear indication of

picture and a really clear indication of

picture and a really clear indication of how those students are tracking and when

how those students are tracking and when

how those students are tracking and when we need to intervene following that we

we need to intervene following that we

we need to intervene following that we then ask a series of questions based on

then ask a series of questions based on

then ask a series of questions based on a five-piece so in terms of people

a five-piece so in terms of people

a five-piece so in terms of people places policies programs and processes

places policies programs and processes

places policies programs and processes we ask are there problems with

we ask are there problems with

we ask are there problems with engagement or participation of students

engagement or participation of students

engagement or participation of students what can I do as a person to change to

what can I do as a person to change to

what can I do as a person to change to improve my practice how can I best meet

improve my practice how can I best meet

improve my practice how can I best meet the needs of these people in my class

the needs of these people in my class

the needs of these people in my class and we ask a series of questions based

and we ask a series of questions based

and we ask a series of questions based on these five PS so for places we say is

on these five PS so for places we say is

on these five PS so for places we say is the classroom inviting policies are the

the classroom inviting policies are the

the classroom inviting policies are the rules and expectations inviting and we

rules and expectations inviting and we

rules and expectations inviting and we basically use these as a

basically use these as a

basically use these as a framework to invoke change through the

framework to invoke change through the

framework to invoke change through the lens of our five values to make sure

lens of our five values to make sure

lens of our five values to make sure that students have buy-in and there’s a

that students have buy-in and there’s a

that students have buy-in and there’s a positive school climate so they want to

positive school climate so they want to

positive school climate so they want to be a part of that learning process if I

be a part of that learning process if I

be a part of that learning process if I was to boil down the whole problem of

was to boil down the whole problem of

was to boil down the whole problem of socio-economic disadvantage into two

socio-economic disadvantage into two

socio-economic disadvantage into two words first would be data we need to

words first would be data we need to

words first would be data we need to know that social segregation and

know that social segregation and

know that social segregation and socio-economic disadvantage are a real

socio-economic disadvantage are a real

socio-economic disadvantage are a real thing and we need to know what research

thing and we need to know what research

thing and we need to know what research tells us about how we can minimize the

tells us about how we can minimize the

tells us about how we can minimize the effects of it happening we also need to

effects of it happening we also need to

effects of it happening we also need to understand the data in our schools

understand the data in our schools

understand the data in our schools both looking at individuals classes and

both looking at individuals classes and

both looking at individuals classes and the broader school and identify areas of

the broader school and identify areas of

the broader school and identify areas of risk and need and secondly the other

risk and need and secondly the other

risk and need and secondly the other word is equity

word is equity

word is equity how can we make sure that every child in

how can we make sure that every child in

how can we make sure that every child in every school has access to education and

every school has access to education and

every school has access to education and excellent education thank you

excellent education thank you

excellent education thank you [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] you

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