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Do We Really Need Cash? | Devie Mohan | TEDxEdinburghNapierUniversity


so I run a research company and I spend

so I run a research company and I spend my days thinking about how to make our

my days thinking about how to make our

my days thinking about how to make our financial lives better not just mine or

financial lives better not just mine or

financial lives better not just mine or my families or my clients but the

my families or my clients but the

my families or my clients but the financial lives of those people the

financial lives of those people the

financial lives of those people the billions of people who don’t have access

billions of people who don’t have access

billions of people who don’t have access to a bank account or any kind of savings

to a bank account or any kind of savings

to a bank account or any kind of savings or any money management really and I’m

or any money management really and I’m

or any money management really and I’m constantly frustrated that we don’t

constantly frustrated that we don’t

constantly frustrated that we don’t understand the true value of doing

understand the true value of doing

understand the true value of doing something as simple as going cashless we

something as simple as going cashless we

something as simple as going cashless we don’t really appreciate the

don’t really appreciate the

don’t really appreciate the possibilities that open up to us if we

possibilities that open up to us if we

possibilities that open up to us if we got rid of our bank notes our coins of

got rid of our bank notes our coins of

got rid of our bank notes our coins of physical wallets and purses and instead

physical wallets and purses and instead

physical wallets and purses and instead use something really available to us on

use something really available to us on

use something really available to us on a regular basis our mobile phones and

a regular basis our mobile phones and

a regular basis our mobile phones and they talk about this to my friends

they talk about this to my friends

they talk about this to my friends family clients who are bankers and

family clients who are bankers and

family clients who are bankers and investors and governments I think don’t

investors and governments I think don’t

investors and governments I think don’t get it they just don’t understand how an

get it they just don’t understand how an

get it they just don’t understand how an individual person going cashless has the

individual person going cashless has the

individual person going cashless has the power to change the world which is what

power to change the world which is what

power to change the world which is what all of us want to do so I can explain

all of us want to do so I can explain

all of us want to do so I can explain this in two ways I can explain this as

this in two ways I can explain this as

this in two ways I can explain this as me a geeky researcher with insights

me a geeky researcher with insights

me a geeky researcher with insights logic and data about the huge economic

logic and data about the huge economic

logic and data about the huge economic benefits and the efficiency and the cost

benefits and the efficiency and the cost

benefits and the efficiency and the cost savings we can get especially with banks

savings we can get especially with banks

savings we can get especially with banks and governments but to me there’s a more

and governments but to me there’s a more

and governments but to me there’s a more compelling way to explain this to them

compelling way to explain this to them

compelling way to explain this to them it is the stories of comfort

it is the stories of comfort

it is the stories of comfort inconvenience that can really help us

inconvenience that can really help us

inconvenience that can really help us make sense of

make sense of

make sense of huge phenomenon so the first story I’m

huge phenomenon so the first story I’m

huge phenomenon so the first story I’m going to tell you is from a home country

going to tell you is from a home country

going to tell you is from a home country India where my family lives that was

India where my family lives that was

India where my family lives that was there a few weeks ago and I was with my

there a few weeks ago and I was with my

there a few weeks ago and I was with my family and my sister was ordering food

family and my sister was ordering food

family and my sister was ordering food for all of us so she was sitting there

for all of us so she was sitting there

for all of us so she was sitting there on the bed with her baby in one hand and

on the bed with her baby in one hand and

on the bed with her baby in one hand and she has her mobile phone on the other

she has her mobile phone on the other

she has her mobile phone on the other hand which she always has with her it’s

hand which she always has with her it’s

hand which she always has with her it’s like an extension of her and she’s

like an extension of her and she’s

like an extension of her and she’s typing away while we are chatting about

typing away while we are chatting about

typing away while we are chatting about what we would like to eat that day and

what we would like to eat that day and

what we would like to eat that day and she’s done ordering our food and about a

she’s done ordering our food and about a

she’s done ordering our food and about a couple of minutes so I was curious

couple of minutes so I was curious

couple of minutes so I was curious I asked her what app did he use I didn’t

I asked her what app did he use I didn’t

I asked her what app did he use I didn’t know we had apps in this tiny town in

know we had apps in this tiny town in

know we had apps in this tiny town in the middle of nowhere and she said oh we

the middle of nowhere and she said oh we

the middle of nowhere and she said oh we don’t have an app I just used what’s up

don’t have an app I just used what’s up

don’t have an app I just used what’s up I don’t know if anyone in this room has

I don’t know if anyone in this room has

I don’t know if anyone in this room has ever used whatsapp to order food but

ever used whatsapp to order food but

ever used whatsapp to order food but it’s a completely new concept to me I

it’s a completely new concept to me I

it’s a completely new concept to me I didn’t get it I asked her what did you

didn’t get it I asked her what did you

didn’t get it I asked her what did you do on what sir to offer your food and

do on what sir to offer your food and

do on what sir to offer your food and she showed me this so here she is

she showed me this so here she is

she showed me this so here she is chatting with the restaurant talking

chatting with the restaurant talking

chatting with the restaurant talking about the food she would like to have

about the food she would like to have

about the food she would like to have where she would like to have it ordered

where she would like to have it ordered

where she would like to have it ordered the whole thing is done in about three

the whole thing is done in about three

the whole thing is done in about three minutes by the way very quick but the

minutes by the way very quick but the

minutes by the way very quick but the most fascinating thing to me here is

most fascinating thing to me here is

most fascinating thing to me here is that she has moved money from her mobile

that she has moved money from her mobile

that she has moved money from her mobile virtual wallet into the virtual wallet

virtual wallet into the virtual wallet

virtual wallet into the virtual wallet of the restaurant now we need to think

of the restaurant now we need to think

of the restaurant now we need to think about it again there’s no cash involved

about it again there’s no cash involved

about it again there’s no cash involved and not just that there’s no physical

and not just that there’s no physical

and not just that there’s no physical transaction at all there’s no credit

transaction at all there’s no credit

transaction at all there’s no credit card no debit card there’s no money

card no debit card there’s no money

card no debit card there’s no money going through the wires it’s a pure

going through the wires it’s a pure

going through the wires it’s a pure subtraction and addition it’s pure

subtraction and addition it’s pure

subtraction and addition it’s pure mathematics it’s completely virtual and

mathematics it’s completely virtual and

mathematics it’s completely virtual and this is a powerful concept if you think

this is a powerful concept if you think

this is a powerful concept if you think about it and India is a really

about it and India is a really

about it and India is a really fascinating example of what happens when

fascinating example of what happens when

fascinating example of what happens when a country goes cassius it has about 1.2

a country goes cassius it has about 1.2

a country goes cassius it has about 1.2 billion mobile phones in the country

billion mobile phones in the country

billion mobile phones in the country about 220 million smart

about 220 million smart

about 220 million smart phones and technology is readily

phones and technology is readily

phones and technology is readily available to do these kind of stuff and

available to do these kind of stuff and

available to do these kind of stuff and one fine evening in November the

one fine evening in November the

one fine evening in November the government decided that they would

government decided that they would

government decided that they would devalue two of the largest currency

devalue two of the largest currency

devalue two of the largest currency denominations in the country so people

denominations in the country so people

denominations in the country so people had a choice they could either get the

had a choice they could either get the

had a choice they could either get the new currency by standing in lines for

new currency by standing in lines for

new currency by standing in lines for hours or days in front of banks branches

hours or days in front of banks branches

hours or days in front of banks branches and cash machines or instead they could

and cash machines or instead they could

and cash machines or instead they could download this mobile wallet and make

download this mobile wallet and make

download this mobile wallet and make transactions right away so the largest

transactions right away so the largest

transactions right away so the largest brand of mobile wallet in the country

brand of mobile wallet in the country

brand of mobile wallet in the country had 20 million customers before this

had 20 million customers before this

had 20 million customers before this happened and in one day they had the

happened and in one day they had the

happened and in one day they had the next day they had 56 million customers

next day they had 56 million customers

next day they had 56 million customers so that’s what we are talking about true

so that’s what we are talking about true

so that’s what we are talking about true transformation and all the people who

transformation and all the people who

transformation and all the people who took mobile wallets today they don’t use

took mobile wallets today they don’t use

took mobile wallets today they don’t use cash anymore okay there’s no need to and

cash anymore okay there’s no need to and

cash anymore okay there’s no need to and I come from a beach town and I hear now

I come from a beach town and I hear now

I come from a beach town and I hear now that the fishermen who go out fishing in

that the fishermen who go out fishing in

that the fishermen who go out fishing in the early hours of the morning start

the early hours of the morning start

the early hours of the morning start selling their fish them even before they

selling their fish them even before they

selling their fish them even before they reach the shore they start using mobile

reach the shore they start using mobile

reach the shore they start using mobile phones whose coverage extends all the

phones whose coverage extends all the

phones whose coverage extends all the way into the sea to sell the fish get

way into the sea to sell the fish get

way into the sea to sell the fish get the payments and the fish is given away

the payments and the fish is given away

the payments and the fish is given away the moment you arrive on the beach so

the moment you arrive on the beach so

the moment you arrive on the beach so that’s fresh fish for you right there

that’s fresh fish for you right there

that’s fresh fish for you right there India is a great example of how

India is a great example of how

India is a great example of how technology and the consumers and the

technology and the consumers and the

technology and the consumers and the government have been together willing to

government have been together willing to

government have been together willing to accept going cashless as a strategy and

accept going cashless as a strategy and

accept going cashless as a strategy and it’s worked really well for them and the

it’s worked really well for them and the

it’s worked really well for them and the convenience store is just one side of it

convenience store is just one side of it

convenience store is just one side of it there are millions of people have

there are millions of people have

there are millions of people have benefited who have never had bank

benefited who have never had bank

benefited who have never had bank accounts who can make transactions today

accounts who can make transactions today

accounts who can make transactions today now the next story I’m going to tell you

now the next story I’m going to tell you

now the next story I’m going to tell you is about a small agricultural town in

is about a small agricultural town in

is about a small agricultural town in Colombia called

Colombia called

Colombia called concepción a small town about 4,500

concepción a small town about 4,500

concepción a small town about 4,500 people and one of the biggest problems

people and one of the biggest problems

people and one of the biggest problems in conception

in conception

in conception crying people had to travel by bus from

crying people had to travel by bus from

crying people had to travel by bus from concepción to Medellin the next largest

concepción to Medellin the next largest

concepción to Medellin the next largest city in Colombia to buy the supplies for

city in Colombia to buy the supplies for

city in Colombia to buy the supplies for education for different needs but they

education for different needs but they

education for different needs but they would be armed robberies on the way if

would be armed robberies on the way if

would be armed robberies on the way if you’re carrying cash it’s most likely to

you’re carrying cash it’s most likely to

you’re carrying cash it’s most likely to be taken away so they had a real problem

be taken away so they had a real problem

be taken away so they had a real problem they couldn’t walk into a cash machine

they couldn’t walk into a cash machine

they couldn’t walk into a cash machine and withdraw cash safely that so the

and withdraw cash safely that so the

and withdraw cash safely that so the government decided that we’re going to

government decided that we’re going to

government decided that we’re going to try a pilot program of going cashless so

try a pilot program of going cashless so

try a pilot program of going cashless so what they did was they took a bottom-up

what they did was they took a bottom-up

what they did was they took a bottom-up approach they did not get rid of cash

approach they did not get rid of cash

approach they did not get rid of cash machines and credit cards and debit

machines and credit cards and debit

machines and credit cards and debit cards in one day but instead they

cards in one day but instead they

cards in one day but instead they converted the cash machines into points

converted the cash machines into points

converted the cash machines into points where you could load your mobile wallets

where you could load your mobile wallets

where you could load your mobile wallets where you could learn how to make mobile

where you could learn how to make mobile

where you could learn how to make mobile transactions and you could actually

transactions and you could actually

transactions and you could actually transfer money virtually to your friends

transfer money virtually to your friends

transfer money virtually to your friends family and businesses and they ran

family and businesses and they ran

family and businesses and they ran training programs in schools so it was a

training programs in schools so it was a

training programs in schools so it was a very gradual approach with the help of

very gradual approach with the help of

very gradual approach with the help of the leading banks in that town and a

the leading banks in that town and a

the leading banks in that town and a mobile operator of course Davi Plata who

mobile operator of course Davi Plata who

mobile operator of course Davi Plata who all came together to make this happen

all came together to make this happen

all came together to make this happen this happened three years ago and today

this happened three years ago and today

this happened three years ago and today 90% of businesses in concepción handle

90% of businesses in concepción handle

90% of businesses in concepción handle only digital transactions crime has come

only digital transactions crime has come

only digital transactions crime has come down to the point which has never been

down to the point which has never been

down to the point which has never been seen before in the history of conception

seen before in the history of conception

seen before in the history of conception and this program is now being piloted

and this program is now being piloted

and this program is now being piloted across Colombia then now people are not

across Colombia then now people are not

across Colombia then now people are not worried about taking that bus right to

worried about taking that bus right to

worried about taking that bus right to Medellin for their regular needs all

Medellin for their regular needs all

Medellin for their regular needs all they need to do is load money into the

they need to do is load money into the

they need to do is load money into the virtual wallet get on the bus once they

virtual wallet get on the bus once they

virtual wallet get on the bus once they get too many they can use the money from

get too many they can use the money from

get too many they can use the money from the wallet download it as cash if they

the wallet download it as cash if they

the wallet download it as cash if they wanted to but they don’t need to it’s a

wanted to but they don’t need to it’s a

wanted to but they don’t need to it’s a fascinating story if you look at it and

fascinating story if you look at it and

fascinating story if you look at it and the third story I’m gonna tell you is

the third story I’m gonna tell you is

the third story I’m gonna tell you is about a lastly cash free country today’s

about a lastly cash free country today’s

about a lastly cash free country today’s Sweden I used to live in Sweden

Sweden I used to live in Sweden

Sweden I used to live in Sweden a long time ago and I had this huge

a long time ago and I had this huge

a long time ago and I had this huge stash of currency coins and no notes

stash of currency coins and no notes

stash of currency coins and no notes from that time which I never used and

from that time which I never used and

from that time which I never used and when I went back a couple of years ago

when I went back a couple of years ago

when I went back a couple of years ago to meet my friends and colleagues

to meet my friends and colleagues

to meet my friends and colleagues I took the stash with me because I

I took the stash with me because I

I took the stash with me because I really wanted to get rid of them but you

really wanted to get rid of them but you

really wanted to get rid of them but you know what I still have that stashed with

know what I still have that stashed with

know what I still have that stashed with me because they refuse to accept cash so

me because they refuse to accept cash so

me because they refuse to accept cash so the cafe is like this they have signs

the cafe is like this they have signs

the cafe is like this they have signs saying we are completely cash free we

saying we are completely cash free we

saying we are completely cash free we don’t take cash anymore and the coins I

don’t take cash anymore and the coins I

don’t take cash anymore and the coins I had with me they completely devalued

had with me they completely devalued

had with me they completely devalued they don’t exist anymore there are no

they don’t exist anymore there are no

they don’t exist anymore there are no more coins in Sweden so Sweden today has

more coins in Sweden so Sweden today has

more coins in Sweden so Sweden today has about two percent of the economic value

about two percent of the economic value

about two percent of the economic value in cash based transactions in fact I was

in cash based transactions in fact I was

in cash based transactions in fact I was told that if you walk in a cash machine

told that if you walk in a cash machine

told that if you walk in a cash machine and withdraw a large sum of money the

and withdraw a large sum of money the

and withdraw a large sum of money the police are called on you because why

police are called on you because why

police are called on you because why would you want cash unless you’re a

would you want cash unless you’re a

would you want cash unless you’re a criminal so with just 2 percent of the

criminal so with just 2 percent of the

criminal so with just 2 percent of the transactions in cash today they’re going

transactions in cash today they’re going

transactions in cash today they’re going to be completely cash free in about five

to be completely cash free in about five

to be completely cash free in about five years

years

years so it became a fascinating example of

so it became a fascinating example of

so it became a fascinating example of what’s happening in different parts of

what’s happening in different parts of

what’s happening in different parts of the world and the UK is a strange

the world and the UK is a strange

the world and the UK is a strange situation that way in that we all have

situation that way in that we all have

situation that way in that we all have smartphones we love technology Londoners

smartphones we love technology Londoners

smartphones we love technology Londoners and other cities in the UK are really

and other cities in the UK are really

and other cities in the UK are really great technological hubs for developing

great technological hubs for developing

great technological hubs for developing new technology for taking it to market

new technology for taking it to market

new technology for taking it to market for consumers willing to test it but for

for consumers willing to test it but for

for consumers willing to test it but for some reason we are still cash based in

some reason we are still cash based in

some reason we are still cash based in that 50% of the transactions happening

that 50% of the transactions happening

that 50% of the transactions happening in the UK are made with cash if you’re

in the UK are made with cash if you’re

in the UK are made with cash if you’re not using cash we are using credit cards

not using cash we are using credit cards

not using cash we are using credit cards and debit cards and the new innovative

and debit cards and the new innovative

and debit cards and the new innovative technology like contactless cards and

technology like contactless cards and

technology like contactless cards and Oyster cult’s but we are so far away

Oyster cult’s but we are so far away

Oyster cult’s but we are so far away from the virtual wallet concept today

from the virtual wallet concept today

from the virtual wallet concept today and the Bank of England interestingly is

and the Bank of England interestingly is

and the Bank of England interestingly is having a debate about how to manufacture

having a debate about how to manufacture

having a debate about how to manufacture the new 20-pound notes they’re

the new 20-pound notes they’re

the new 20-pound notes they’re considering various options and there’s

considering various options and there’s

considering various options and there’s a whole lot of debate going on about the

a whole lot of debate going on about the

a whole lot of debate going on about the manufacturing process so we need to

manufacturing process so we need to

manufacturing process so we need to remember the cost of cash right so if

remember the cost of cash right so if

remember the cost of cash right so if the cost of cash includes the cost of

the cost of cash includes the cost of

the cost of cash includes the cost of printing notes manufacturing them

printing notes manufacturing them

printing notes manufacturing them discussions like this and the security

discussions like this and the security

discussions like this and the security around transportation the whole cost of

around transportation the whole cost of

around transportation the whole cost of transporting money from the bank to bank

transporting money from the bank to bank

transporting money from the bank to bank the government to banks and small

the government to banks and small

the government to banks and small businesses having to carry cash at the

businesses having to carry cash at the

businesses having to carry cash at the end of the day the untaxed wealth for

end of the day the untaxed wealth for

end of the day the untaxed wealth for example Sweden found that they had eight

example Sweden found that they had eight

example Sweden found that they had eight billion dollars of untaxed wealth that

billion dollars of untaxed wealth that

billion dollars of untaxed wealth that could come back to them if they were in

could come back to them if they were in

could come back to them if they were in cashless so that was one of the primary

cashless so that was one of the primary

cashless so that was one of the primary drivers for them so in the UK that

drivers for them so in the UK that

drivers for them so in the UK that opportunity is there but for some reason

opportunity is there but for some reason

opportunity is there but for some reason it is heavily and firmly a cash based

it is heavily and firmly a cash based

it is heavily and firmly a cash based society and culture now why are some

society and culture now why are some

society and culture now why are some countries really good at and some

countries really good at and some

countries really good at and some countries struggling with it

countries struggling with it

countries struggling with it so I use a framework to understand this

so I use a framework to understand this

so I use a framework to understand this so there are two axis I look at so on

so there are two axis I look at so on

so there are two axis I look at so on one hand you have the consumer

one hand you have the consumer

one hand you have the consumer acceptance score which tells you whether

acceptance score which tells you whether

acceptance score which tells you whether the consumer is or the population are

the consumer is or the population are

the consumer is or the population are willing to accept and try out new

willing to accept and try out new

willing to accept and try out new technologies this includes the use of

technologies this includes the use of

technologies this includes the use of smartphones internet the propensity for

smartphones internet the propensity for

smartphones internet the propensity for shopping online and on the other hand

shopping online and on the other hand

shopping online and on the other hand you have the digital business evolution

you have the digital business evolution

you have the digital business evolution score which tells you if you as a

score which tells you if you as a

score which tells you if you as a consumer is supported by businesses and

consumer is supported by businesses and

consumer is supported by businesses and the government to actually go cash free

the government to actually go cash free

the government to actually go cash free so this includes the government policies

so this includes the government policies

so this includes the government policies the regulations and of course

the regulations and of course

the regulations and of course infrastructure available to the

infrastructure available to the

infrastructure available to the businesses like point-of-sale machines

businesses like point-of-sale machines

businesses like point-of-sale machines you could be on a virgin’ train and you

you could be on a virgin’ train and you

you could be on a virgin’ train and you cannot buy food or drinks on it

cannot buy food or drinks on it

cannot buy food or drinks on it there’s no point of sale machine on a

there’s no point of sale machine on a

there’s no point of sale machine on a train so it’s a combination of these two

train so it’s a combination of these two

train so it’s a combination of these two factors in my opinion that drives a

factors in my opinion that drives a

factors in my opinion that drives a cashless society and you can see some of

cashless society and you can see some of

cashless society and you can see some of the countries I spoke about India Sweden

the countries I spoke about India Sweden

the countries I spoke about India Sweden Mexico Colombia Kenya and Nigeria and

Mexico Colombia Kenya and Nigeria and

Mexico Colombia Kenya and Nigeria and Turkey as a country is in fact one of

Turkey as a country is in fact one of

Turkey as a country is in fact one of the best examples of her population

the best examples of her population

the best examples of her population willing to accept and use digital

willing to accept and use digital

willing to accept and use digital technologies and for some reason the

technologies and for some reason the

technologies and for some reason the second country is Somaliland I haven’t

second country is Somaliland I haven’t

second country is Somaliland I haven’t figured out why and you can see that the

figured out why and you can see that the

figured out why and you can see that the UK’s not too bad with the consumer

UK’s not too bad with the consumer

UK’s not too bad with the consumer acceptance but we are still struggling

acceptance but we are still struggling

acceptance but we are still struggling on the the government side but we also

on the the government side but we also

on the the government side but we also need to remember that the journey is

need to remember that the journey is

need to remember that the journey is that concepción took and Sweden took

that concepción took and Sweden took

that concepción took and Sweden took they do have certain problems as well so

they do have certain problems as well so

they do have certain problems as well so there are two paths you can take to go

there are two paths you can take to go

there are two paths you can take to go cashless so the pub that conceptual took

cashless so the pub that conceptual took

cashless so the pub that conceptual took and Sweden is taking is very much a

and Sweden is taking is very much a

and Sweden is taking is very much a linear part in that they converted cash

linear part in that they converted cash

linear part in that they converted cash to credit cards and then debit cards

to credit cards and then debit cards

to credit cards and then debit cards digital payment apps PayPal things like

digital payment apps PayPal things like

digital payment apps PayPal things like that and then ultimately they launched

that and then ultimately they launched

that and then ultimately they launched an app in Sweden they call it swish so

an app in Sweden they call it swish so

an app in Sweden they call it swish so it’s a very very linear journey that we

it’s a very very linear journey that we

it’s a very very linear journey that we have seen with these two countries but

have seen with these two countries but

have seen with these two countries but if you look at the other part that India

if you look at the other part that India

if you look at the other part that India has taken and other countries in Africa

has taken and other countries in Africa

has taken and other countries in Africa like Kenya Nigeria etcetera they have

like Kenya Nigeria etcetera they have

like Kenya Nigeria etcetera they have taken in the exponential path which

taken in the exponential path which

taken in the exponential path which means they have completely gone around

means they have completely gone around

means they have completely gone around the cycle of credit cards and debit

the cycle of credit cards and debit

the cycle of credit cards and debit cards or any physical device for

cards or any physical device for

cards or any physical device for transformation and they have gone from

transformation and they have gone from

transformation and they have gone from cash to virtual wallets almost directly

cash to virtual wallets almost directly

cash to virtual wallets almost directly and as you can see that is highly

and as you can see that is highly

and as you can see that is highly disruptive that mode will help you

disruptive that mode will help you

disruptive that mode will help you achieve cash listeners in a much much

achieve cash listeners in a much much

achieve cash listeners in a much much faster way and notice that this actually

faster way and notice that this actually

faster way and notice that this actually creates an ecosystem so this will sit

creates an ecosystem so this will sit

creates an ecosystem so this will sit within the ecosystem of mobile networks

within the ecosystem of mobile networks

within the ecosystem of mobile networks the identity

the identity

the identity program of the country the welfare

program of the country the welfare

program of the country the welfare program the corporate incentives program

program the corporate incentives program

program the corporate incentives program so it actually creates an ecosystem the

so it actually creates an ecosystem the

so it actually creates an ecosystem the moment your virtual and one of the best

moment your virtual and one of the best

moment your virtual and one of the best things that can happen is that we can

things that can happen is that we can

things that can happen is that we can provide basic services healthcare

provide basic services healthcare

provide basic services healthcare education through this ecosystem which

education through this ecosystem which

education through this ecosystem which has created banking opportunities and I

has created banking opportunities and I

has created banking opportunities and I could say banking but it’s actually

could say banking but it’s actually

could say banking but it’s actually financial movement opportunities for

financial movement opportunities for

financial movement opportunities for people in India and Africa that’s about

people in India and Africa that’s about

people in India and Africa that’s about 80 percent of the population of the

80 percent of the population of the

80 percent of the population of the individual countries to access those

individual countries to access those

individual countries to access those services without ever having a bank

services without ever having a bank

services without ever having a bank account that’s truly transformational so

account that’s truly transformational so

account that’s truly transformational so going cashless has the power to

going cashless has the power to

going cashless has the power to transform our lives and and the economy

transform our lives and and the economy

transform our lives and and the economy and the world

and the world

and the world imagine a world where he used really

imagine a world where he used really

imagine a world where he used really available physical devices your mobile

available physical devices your mobile

available physical devices your mobile phone your household appliances to make

phone your household appliances to make

phone your household appliances to make the transactions almost invisible for

the transactions almost invisible for

the transactions almost invisible for you you don’t even think about the

you you don’t even think about the

you you don’t even think about the payment you’re making for example you’d

payment you’re making for example you’d

payment you’re making for example you’d be walking on the street and it starts

be walking on the street and it starts

be walking on the street and it starts raining and it you bus stops right there

raining and it you bus stops right there

raining and it you bus stops right there for you or your washing machine realizes

for you or your washing machine realizes

for you or your washing machine realizes that your washing powder is finished and

that your washing powder is finished and

that your washing powder is finished and it orders it for you from Amazon it’s

it orders it for you from Amazon it’s

it orders it for you from Amazon it’s happening right now or you are a busy

happening right now or you are a busy

happening right now or you are a busy working mother or on a treadmill and you

working mother or on a treadmill and you

working mother or on a treadmill and you can order your groceries while you are

can order your groceries while you are

can order your groceries while you are doing two things at once us as busy

doing two things at once us as busy

doing two things at once us as busy working mothers always – or you could be

working mothers always – or you could be

working mothers always – or you could be a government having billions of dollars

a government having billions of dollars

a government having billions of dollars in excess cash available to spend on

in excess cash available to spend on

in excess cash available to spend on health universities hospitals schools

health universities hospitals schools

health universities hospitals schools welfare aid development and imagine a

welfare aid development and imagine a

welfare aid development and imagine a world where small business owners know

world where small business owners know

world where small business owners know exactly how much cash they have at any

exactly how much cash they have at any

exactly how much cash they have at any given point of time and that money is

given point of time and that money is

given point of time and that money is already in their bank account and

already in their bank account and

already in their bank account and imagine that world where children

imagine that world where children

imagine that world where children learned that cash is not the most

learned that cash is not the most

learned that cash is not the most important thing there are much better

important thing there are much better

important thing there are much better ways to

ways to

ways to deal with life on a day-to-day basis

deal with life on a day-to-day basis

deal with life on a day-to-day basis which is already happening so the next

which is already happening so the next

which is already happening so the next time you take out your physical wallet

time you take out your physical wallet

time you take out your physical wallet or purse I employee you stop have a

or purse I employee you stop have a

or purse I employee you stop have a think and think about whether you can

think and think about whether you can

think and think about whether you can make the same transaction with your

make the same transaction with your

make the same transaction with your mobile phone thank you

mobile phone thank you

mobile phone thank you [Applause]

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