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Curiosity Cures Anxiety | Ramona Bishop | TEDxSouthportElementarySchool


good morning everybody

good morning everybody I am so glad to be here with you and Wow

I am so glad to be here with you and Wow

I am so glad to be here with you and Wow sixth graders I think you’re probably

sixth graders I think you’re probably

sixth graders I think you’re probably going to be one of my toughest crowds

going to be one of my toughest crowds

going to be one of my toughest crowds what do you think I want you to be

what do you think I want you to be

what do you think I want you to be gentle on me I could tell you all about

gentle on me I could tell you all about

gentle on me I could tell you all about my educational career I could even tell

my educational career I could even tell

my educational career I could even tell you about speaking at the White House

you about speaking at the White House

you about speaking at the White House and some of the amazing people that I’ve

and some of the amazing people that I’ve

and some of the amazing people that I’ve met but I decided to go back to when I

met but I decided to go back to when I

met but I decided to go back to when I was a 6th grader and tell you about some

was a 6th grader and tell you about some

was a 6th grader and tell you about some of the lessons that I learned that sound

of the lessons that I learned that sound

of the lessons that I learned that sound all right you know one of the biggest

all right you know one of the biggest

all right you know one of the biggest things about me and about anyone who has

things about me and about anyone who has

things about me and about anyone who has had any level of success is their

had any level of success is their

had any level of success is their ability to build relationships and so

ability to build relationships and so

ability to build relationships and so when I thought about the topics that I

when I thought about the topics that I

when I thought about the topics that I was given to consider to speak with you

was given to consider to speak with you

was given to consider to speak with you about today

about today

about today I thought about relationships so I want

I thought about relationships so I want

I thought about relationships so I want to take you back into my sixth grade

to take you back into my sixth grade

to take you back into my sixth grade year in a school called Mira Vista

year in a school called Mira Vista

year in a school called Mira Vista Elementary School in the city of El

Elementary School in the city of El

Elementary School in the city of El Cerrito California it was a school very

Cerrito California it was a school very

Cerrito California it was a school very much like this lots of diversity lots of

much like this lots of diversity lots of

much like this lots of diversity lots of beautiful young people and lots of

beautiful young people and lots of

beautiful young people and lots of amazing staff members who cared about

amazing staff members who cared about

amazing staff members who cared about each one of us I remember the summer of

each one of us I remember the summer of

each one of us I remember the summer of my fifth grade year during the summer of

my fifth grade year during the summer of

my fifth grade year during the summer of my fifth grade year I had a lot of

my fifth grade year I had a lot of

my fifth grade year I had a lot of anxiety I was really really worried

anxiety I was really really worried

anxiety I was really really worried there was a reason for that worried you

there was a reason for that worried you

there was a reason for that worried you know just before my fifth the summer of

know just before my fifth the summer of

know just before my fifth the summer of my fifth grade year I found out that I

my fifth grade year I found out that I

my fifth grade year I found out that I was going to have a teacher named mrs.

was going to have a teacher named mrs.

was going to have a teacher named mrs. de Mertz

de Mertz

de Mertz now mrs. de Virts was the meanest

now mrs. de Virts was the meanest

now mrs. de Virts was the meanest teacher in the school according to all

teacher in the school according to all

teacher in the school according to all of the students and so all summer long I

of the students and so all summer long I

of the students and so all summer long I thought oh mrs. de Mertz my sixth grade

thought oh mrs. de Mertz my sixth grade

thought oh mrs. de Mertz my sixth grade year is going to be a wash

year is going to be a wash

year is going to be a wash actually I had never spoken with mrs. de

actually I had never spoken with mrs. de

actually I had never spoken with mrs. de Mertz

Mertz

Mertz I don’t Elise seen her in the hallway

I don’t Elise seen her in the hallway

I don’t Elise seen her in the hallway and I remember her horn rimmed glasses

and I remember her horn rimmed glasses

and I remember her horn rimmed glasses and she wore one of those beehive

and she wore one of those beehive

and she wore one of those beehive hairdos and she always had a very

hairdos and she always had a very

hairdos and she always had a very serious look on her face I also remember

serious look on her face I also remember

serious look on her face I also remember the click-click-click of her heels in

the click-click-click of her heels in

the click-click-click of her heels in the hallway I know that she I had I

the hallway I know that she I had I

the hallway I know that she I had I actually loved school I loved school a

actually loved school I loved school a

actually loved school I loved school a lot I actually had decided in third

lot I actually had decided in third

lot I actually had decided in third grade that I wanted to be a teacher and

grade that I wanted to be a teacher and

grade that I wanted to be a teacher and I figured perhaps that mrs. de Mertz

I figured perhaps that mrs. de Mertz

I figured perhaps that mrs. de Mertz might crush that dream the first day was

might crush that dream the first day was

might crush that dream the first day was like any other day mrs. de verts had

like any other day mrs. de verts had

like any other day mrs. de verts had those activities you know the ones the

those activities you know the ones the

those activities you know the ones the warm-up activities everybody gets to

warm-up activities everybody gets to

warm-up activities everybody gets to know each other we go outside for a game

know each other we go outside for a game

know each other we go outside for a game of kickball and it’s all very exciting I

started to think maybe I had

started to think maybe I had second-guessed or not been quite clear

second-guessed or not been quite clear

second-guessed or not been quite clear about who mrs. de Mertz really was one

about who mrs. de Mertz really was one

about who mrs. de Mertz really was one day my mom was going to be late picking

day my mom was going to be late picking

day my mom was going to be late picking me up my mom worked in San Francisco you

me up my mom worked in San Francisco you

me up my mom worked in San Francisco you know anything about El Cerrito to San

know anything about El Cerrito to San

know anything about El Cerrito to San Francisco that’s a very very long drive

Francisco that’s a very very long drive

Francisco that’s a very very long drive so I had to stay and with mrs. de Mertz

so I had to stay and with mrs. de Mertz

so I had to stay and with mrs. de Mertz for half an hour after school Oh God

for half an hour after school Oh God

for half an hour after school Oh God I had to stay with mrs. de MERS by

I had to stay with mrs. de MERS by

I had to stay with mrs. de MERS by myself for half an hour

actually as I thought about it during

actually as I thought about it during those first few days it hadn’t been too

those first few days it hadn’t been too

those first few days it hadn’t been too bad with her

bad with her

bad with her so maybe my anxiety could be cured by my

so maybe my anxiety could be cured by my

so maybe my anxiety could be cured by my curiosity maybe I could find out a

curiosity maybe I could find out a

curiosity maybe I could find out a little bit more about her by spending

little bit more about her by spending

little bit more about her by spending some time with her after school I

some time with her after school I

some time with her after school I remember her asking me to sharpen the

remember her asking me to sharpen the

remember her asking me to sharpen the pencils to put him in the pencil jar I

pencils to put him in the pencil jar I

pencils to put him in the pencil jar I remember her asking me to stop the home

remember her asking me to stop the home

remember her asking me to stop the home I remember her asking me to organize all

I remember her asking me to organize all

I remember her asking me to organize all the different sections in the back and

the different sections in the back and

the different sections in the back and when I finished I actually sat down to

when I finished I actually sat down to

when I finished I actually sat down to complete my homework mrs. de Mertz came

complete my homework mrs. de Mertz came

complete my homework mrs. de Mertz came and sat down right next to me

and sat down right next to me

and sat down right next to me in fact she sat so close that I could

in fact she sat so close that I could

in fact she sat so close that I could smell her estee lauder perfume I thought

smell her estee lauder perfume I thought

smell her estee lauder perfume I thought oh no this is really not going to end

oh no this is really not going to end

oh no this is really not going to end well the interesting part is that she

well the interesting part is that she

well the interesting part is that she actually started asking me about my

actually started asking me about my

actually started asking me about my family asking me about my friends asking

family asking me about my friends asking

family asking me about my friends asking me about my hobbies and then she said

me about my hobbies and then she said

me about my hobbies and then she said something interesting she said before I

something interesting she said before I

something interesting she said before I ever met you Ramona my name is Ramona

ever met you Ramona my name is Ramona

ever met you Ramona my name is Ramona yes Ramona the pest before I ever met

yes Ramona the pest before I ever met

yes Ramona the pest before I ever met you she said I actually found out from

you she said I actually found out from

you she said I actually found out from your fifth grade teacher that you were

your fifth grade teacher that you were

your fifth grade teacher that you were very bright and that you wanted to be a

very bright and that you wanted to be a

very bright and that you wanted to be a teacher and that you could be a

teacher and that you could be a

teacher and that you could be a tremendous help to me in my class I felt

tremendous help to me in my class I felt

tremendous help to me in my class I felt horrible I had made all of these stories

horrible I had made all of these stories

horrible I had made all of these stories up in my mind about who mrs. don’t Mertz

up in my mind about who mrs. don’t Mertz

up in my mind about who mrs. don’t Mertz was I had heard that she was mean I

was I had heard that she was mean I

was I had heard that she was mean I believed all of those young people

believed all of those young people

believed all of those young people without ever giving her a chance

without ever giving her a chance

without ever giving her a chance I found out them actually that curiosity

I found out them actually that curiosity

I found out them actually that curiosity can cure your anxiety and I remembered a

can cure your anxiety and I remembered a

can cure your anxiety and I remembered a lesson that my mother had taught me

lesson that my mother had taught me

lesson that my mother had taught me maybe your mom teaches you that same

maybe your mom teaches you that same

maybe your mom teaches you that same lesson the lesson is give everyone an A

lesson the lesson is give everyone an A

lesson the lesson is give everyone an A until they earn an F again the lesson is

until they earn an F again the lesson is

until they earn an F again the lesson is give everyone an A until they earn

give everyone an A until they earn

give everyone an A until they earn enough

once I had finished kind of sharing with

once I had finished kind of sharing with mrs. de Mertz who I was she had an

mrs. de Mertz who I was she had an

mrs. de Mertz who I was she had an opportunity to share with me who she was

opportunity to share with me who she was

opportunity to share with me who she was actually mrs. de Mertz had decided that

actually mrs. de Mertz had decided that

actually mrs. de Mertz had decided that she was going to be a teacher about at

she was going to be a teacher about at

she was going to be a teacher about at the same age that I decided which was

the same age that I decided which was

the same age that I decided which was third grade mrs. de Mertz

third grade mrs. de Mertz

third grade mrs. de Mertz actually had was the daughter of

actually had was the daughter of

actually had was the daughter of immigrants who took education very

immigrants who took education very

immigrants who took education very seriously mrs. de Mertz actually was one

seriously mrs. de Mertz actually was one

seriously mrs. de Mertz actually was one who believed in all of her students so I

who believed in all of her students so I

who believed in all of her students so I figured that what had happened was that

figured that what had happened was that

figured that what had happened was that students were afraid of her because she

students were afraid of her because she

students were afraid of her because she held very high expectations for all of

held very high expectations for all of

held very high expectations for all of us she expected all of us to complete

us she expected all of us to complete

us she expected all of us to complete our homework she expected all of us to

our homework she expected all of us to

our homework she expected all of us to do all of the mathematic problems she

do all of the mathematic problems she

do all of the mathematic problems she expected all of us to be successful

expected all of us to be successful

expected all of us to be successful professionals at the end of the day I

reminded of another lesson that my

reminded of another lesson that my parents had taught me and that lesson is

parents had taught me and that lesson is

parents had taught me and that lesson is give everyone the benefit of the doubt

give everyone the benefit of the doubt

give everyone the benefit of the doubt give everyone the benefit of the doubt

many years later after I had graduated

many years later after I had graduated from UC Berkeley and enrolled in a

from UC Berkeley and enrolled in a

from UC Berkeley and enrolled in a teacher education program at the

teacher education program at the

teacher education program at the University of San Francisco I came back

University of San Francisco I came back

University of San Francisco I came back to me revista Elementary School in fact

to me revista Elementary School in fact

to me revista Elementary School in fact I came back to the very classroom where

I came back to the very classroom where

I came back to the very classroom where mrs. de Mertz had taught me I was a

mrs. de Mertz had taught me I was a

mrs. de Mertz had taught me I was a student teacher then I had a teacher

student teacher then I had a teacher

student teacher then I had a teacher that in retrospect actually looked very

that in retrospect actually looked very

that in retrospect actually looked very much like mrs. de Mertz just a slightly

much like mrs. de Mertz just a slightly

much like mrs. de Mertz just a slightly younger version I remember thinking

younger version I remember thinking

younger version I remember thinking about her and thinking about all the

about her and thinking about all the

about her and thinking about all the lessons that she had taught me or

lessons that she had taught me or

lessons that she had taught me or lessons that I’ve learned from her

lessons that I’ve learned from her

lessons that I’ve learned from her through my mom and dad’s words I was in

through my mom and dad’s words I was in

through my mom and dad’s words I was in the middle one day of lesson that I had

the middle one day of lesson that I had

the middle one day of lesson that I had to teach when you’re a student teacher

to teach when you’re a student teacher

to teach when you’re a student teacher you have to take over the class as a

you have to take over the class as a

you have to take over the class as a part of your learning and I remember

part of your learning and I remember

part of your learning and I remember doing that

doing that

doing that a young man named Joe in the middle of

a young man named Joe in the middle of

a young man named Joe in the middle of my lesson boys and girls a young man

my lesson boys and girls a young man

my lesson boys and girls a young man named Joe got up and walked out and left

named Joe got up and walked out and left

named Joe got up and walked out and left the classroom and slammed the door I

the classroom and slammed the door I

the classroom and slammed the door I couldn’t believe it I was stunned was I

couldn’t believe it I was stunned was I

couldn’t believe it I was stunned was I a failure was I actually destined to be

a failure was I actually destined to be

a failure was I actually destined to be a teacher I couldn’t believe that Joe

a teacher I couldn’t believe that Joe

a teacher I couldn’t believe that Joe had done that I didn’t understand it to

had done that I didn’t understand it to

had done that I didn’t understand it to make it even worse my supervisor was

make it even worse my supervisor was

make it even worse my supervisor was there taking notes looking at how I was

there taking notes looking at how I was

there taking notes looking at how I was teaching and determining what my grade

teaching and determining what my grade

teaching and determining what my grade was going to be in my student teaching

was going to be in my student teaching

was going to be in my student teaching class I remember the master teacher

class I remember the master teacher

class I remember the master teacher leaving the classroom I remember her

leaving the classroom I remember her

leaving the classroom I remember her coming back but she didn’t come back

coming back but she didn’t come back

coming back but she didn’t come back with Joe and I was in high anxiety later

with Joe and I was in high anxiety later

with Joe and I was in high anxiety later that day after I had finished all the

that day after I had finished all the

that day after I had finished all the duties of the day I received a call from

duties of the day I received a call from

duties of the day I received a call from Joe’s mother and Joe’s mother told me

Joe’s mother and Joe’s mother told me

Joe’s mother and Joe’s mother told me that Joe had come home and been very

that Joe had come home and been very

that Joe had come home and been very disgusted and that she wanted to meet

disgusted and that she wanted to meet

disgusted and that she wanted to meet with me right after school my heart beat

with me right after school my heart beat

with me right after school my heart beat could be felt throughout the entire

could be felt throughout the entire

could be felt throughout the entire school

school

school what did Joe’s mother want with me what

what did Joe’s mother want with me what

what did Joe’s mother want with me what I done so wrong to Joe about an hour

I done so wrong to Joe about an hour

I done so wrong to Joe about an hour later Joe’s mom and and he showed up in

later Joe’s mom and and he showed up in

later Joe’s mom and and he showed up in the classroom again I’m in the very same

the classroom again I’m in the very same

the classroom again I’m in the very same classroom where I learned from mrs. de

classroom where I learned from mrs. de

classroom where I learned from mrs. de Mertz

Mertz

Mertz Joe’s mom says I heard about you hmm

Joe’s mom says I heard about you hmm

Joe’s mom says I heard about you hmm I thought yeah I heard that you think

I thought yeah I heard that you think

I thought yeah I heard that you think that you’re better than everybody at

that you’re better than everybody at

that you’re better than everybody at this school and that you never call on

this school and that you never call on

this school and that you never call on Joe I took a deep breath and I thought

Joe I took a deep breath and I thought

Joe I took a deep breath and I thought about mrs. de Mertz in fact it was

about mrs. de Mertz in fact it was

about mrs. de Mertz in fact it was almost like she was sitting there with

almost like she was sitting there with

almost like she was sitting there with her estee lauder perfume I thought what

her estee lauder perfume I thought what

her estee lauder perfume I thought what would mrs.

would mrs.

would mrs. do so I looked at Joe and I said you

do so I looked at Joe and I said you

do so I looked at Joe and I said you know before I ever took this class I met

know before I ever took this class I met

know before I ever took this class I met with the master teacher and I asked the

with the master teacher and I asked the

with the master teacher and I asked the master teacher about each and every one

master teacher about each and every one

master teacher about each and every one of you

of you

of you I found out Joe that you’re a skilled

I found out Joe that you’re a skilled

I found out Joe that you’re a skilled musician and that one day you want to be

musician and that one day you want to be

musician and that one day you want to be a conductor and I was thrilled and I

a conductor and I was thrilled and I

a conductor and I was thrilled and I couldn’t wait to be your teacher I truly

couldn’t wait to be your teacher I truly

couldn’t wait to be your teacher I truly truly apologize Joe if you felt that I

truly apologize Joe if you felt that I

truly apologize Joe if you felt that I was not asking you any questions I

was not asking you any questions I

was not asking you any questions I apologize from the bottom of my heart

Joe’s mother stared at me

Joe’s mother stared at me she couldn’t believe it she thought I

she couldn’t believe it she thought I

she couldn’t believe it she thought I was going to get all upset about what

was going to get all upset about what

was going to get all upset about what she had said about me she thought that I

she had said about me she thought that I

she had said about me she thought that I was going to get angry about what Joe

was going to get angry about what Joe

was going to get angry about what Joe had come home and told her I began to

had come home and told her I began to

had come home and told her I began to ask his mother questions questions about

ask his mother questions questions about

ask his mother questions questions about the family questions about their friends

the family questions about their friends

the family questions about their friends and their hobbies I remember learning a

and their hobbies I remember learning a

and their hobbies I remember learning a lesson then that I don’t think my mom

lesson then that I don’t think my mom

lesson then that I don’t think my mom and dad had taught me yet let your

and dad had taught me yet let your

and dad had taught me yet let your curiosity be matched with your

curiosity be matched with your

curiosity be matched with your compassion I could have gotten all angry

compassion I could have gotten all angry

compassion I could have gotten all angry I could have been mean to Joe and his

I could have been mean to Joe and his

I could have been mean to Joe and his mom based on what they said but instead

mom based on what they said but instead

mom based on what they said but instead I began to ask them questions like mrs.

I began to ask them questions like mrs.

I began to ask them questions like mrs. de Mertz had done me and I began to

de Mertz had done me and I began to

de Mertz had done me and I began to learn even more about Joe and his family

learn even more about Joe and his family

learn even more about Joe and his family than I already knew as educators we

than I already knew as educators we

than I already knew as educators we often speak to students about curiosity

often speak to students about curiosity

often speak to students about curiosity being at the edge of innovation you’ve

being at the edge of innovation you’ve

being at the edge of innovation you’ve learned all about the great inventors

learned all about the great inventors

learned all about the great inventors whether it’s Albert Einstein or George

whether it’s Albert Einstein or George

whether it’s Albert Einstein or George Washington Carver all of those

Washington Carver all of those

Washington Carver all of those individuals were incredibly curious and

individuals were incredibly curious and

individuals were incredibly curious and that curiosity led to some of the

that curiosity led to some of the

that curiosity led to some of the wonderful innovation that we have now

wonderful innovation that we have now

wonderful innovation that we have now but curiosity can also be a

but curiosity can also be a

but curiosity can also be a great relationship starter and builder

great relationship starter and builder

great relationship starter and builder curiosity leads to understanding serving

curiosity leads to understanding serving

curiosity leads to understanding serving as a cure for anxiety as long as you

as a cure for anxiety as long as you

as a cure for anxiety as long as you give everyone an a until they earn an F

give everyone an a until they earn an F

give everyone an a until they earn an F as you always give people the benefit of

as you always give people the benefit of

as you always give people the benefit of the doubt

the doubt

the doubt and you let your curiosity be matched

and you let your curiosity be matched

and you let your curiosity be matched with compassion in closing boys and

with compassion in closing boys and

with compassion in closing boys and girls let me say a couple of things one

girls let me say a couple of things one

girls let me say a couple of things one as I think about the lessons I learned

as I think about the lessons I learned

as I think about the lessons I learned in sixth grade

in sixth grade

in sixth grade actually they were lessons that my

actually they were lessons that my

actually they were lessons that my mother and father had taught me there

mother and father had taught me there

mother and father had taught me there are so many lines and things that your

are so many lines and things that your

are so many lines and things that your mom and dad might say that they won’t

mom and dad might say that they won’t

mom and dad might say that they won’t become reality until later when you

become reality until later when you

become reality until later when you learn a little bit more about what they

learn a little bit more about what they

learn a little bit more about what they actually were trying to say

actually were trying to say

actually were trying to say are you experiencing something that

are you experiencing something that

are you experiencing something that helps you there’s another thing that

helps you there’s another thing that

helps you there’s another thing that curiosity can cure and that is the

curiosity can cure and that is the

curiosity can cure and that is the person who gets on your last nerve does

person who gets on your last nerve does

person who gets on your last nerve does anybody have one of those it could be

anybody have one of those it could be

anybody have one of those it could be the bully in the classroom it could be

the bully in the classroom it could be

the bully in the classroom it could be your best friend sometimes curiosity can

your best friend sometimes curiosity can

your best friend sometimes curiosity can cure those things all you have to do is

cure those things all you have to do is

cure those things all you have to do is step back and think about not yourself

step back and think about not yourself

step back and think about not yourself but the other person I actually was a

but the other person I actually was a

but the other person I actually was a very tiny sixth grader I wore a 13 baby

very tiny sixth grader I wore a 13 baby

very tiny sixth grader I wore a 13 baby shoe super little and I could have been

shoe super little and I could have been

shoe super little and I could have been the subject for many many bullies in

the subject for many many bullies in

the subject for many many bullies in fact I was initially but in sixth grade

fact I was initially but in sixth grade

fact I was initially but in sixth grade I learned how to get close to the

I learned how to get close to the

I learned how to get close to the bullies and ask them questions that

bullies and ask them questions that

bullies and ask them questions that allowed me to build relationships with

allowed me to build relationships with

allowed me to build relationships with them and eventually I learned that that

them and eventually I learned that that

them and eventually I learned that that helps me even an adulthood it helps me I

helps me even an adulthood it helps me I

helps me even an adulthood it helps me I hope that something I’ve said has

hope that something I’ve said has

hope that something I’ve said has stimulated today I’m so thankful that

stimulated today I’m so thankful that

stimulated today I’m so thankful that you all were my audience today and I ask

you all were my audience today and I ask

you all were my audience today and I ask you to certainly hopefully take

you to certainly hopefully take

you to certainly hopefully take something that I’ve said and build

something that I’ve said and build

something that I’ve said and build relationships and be successful in your

relationships and be successful in your

relationships and be successful in your own lives thank you so much for the

own lives thank you so much for the

own lives thank you so much for the opportunity to share with you you were a

opportunity to share with you you were a

opportunity to share with you you were a powerful and dynamic audience

powerful and dynamic audience

powerful and dynamic audience thank you so much

thank you so much

thank you so much [Applause]

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