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Computers & Brains: a fascinating liaison | Karlheinz Meier | TEDxRWTHAachen


good morning this is pretty much about

good morning this is pretty much about technology and so they gave me this

technology and so they gave me this

technology and so they gave me this piece of technology and I will use it

piece of technology and I will use it

piece of technology and I will use it instead of the clicker and if I pointed

instead of the clicker and if I pointed

instead of the clicker and if I pointed you then please change my slides all

you then please change my slides all

you then please change my slides all right so some things in life are really

right so some things in life are really

right so some things in life are really annoying I guess you all know that and

annoying I guess you all know that and

annoying I guess you all know that and many of these things are connected to

many of these things are connected to

many of these things are connected to these super computers that you carry in

these super computers that you carry in

these super computers that you carry in your back it’s pretty much about

your back it’s pretty much about

your back it’s pretty much about charging the battery this is what you

charging the battery this is what you

charging the battery this is what you have to do every night every evening you

have to do every night every evening you

have to do every night every evening you have to connect this thing and sometimes

have to connect this thing and sometimes

have to connect this thing and sometimes you forget it you want deep trouble the

you forget it you want deep trouble the

you forget it you want deep trouble the next day then there is updating the

next day then there is updating the

next day then there is updating the software there are these constant

software there are these constant

software there are these constant messages reminding us that new fantastic

messages reminding us that new fantastic

messages reminding us that new fantastic features have been implemented bugs have

features have been implemented bugs have

features have been implemented bugs have been removed software became safer and

been removed software became safer and

been removed software became safer and you have to install it and both of these

you have to install it and both of these

you have to install it and both of these things charging your battery and

things charging your battery and

things charging your battery and updating your software are totally

updating your software are totally

updating your software are totally annoying and take away a lot of your

annoying and take away a lot of your

annoying and take away a lot of your productive time every day

productive time every day

productive time every day there is another annoying thing about

there is another annoying thing about

there is another annoying thing about cell phones which many of you or most of

cell phones which many of you or most of

cell phones which many of you or most of you are not aware of it really annoys

you are not aware of it really annoys

you are not aware of it really annoys those who produce these things and these

those who produce these things and these

those who produce these things and these cell phones contain well billions of

cell phones contain well billions of

cell phones contain well billions of transistors and they all have to work

transistors and they all have to work

transistors and they all have to work and these things are really tiny you’re

and these things are really tiny you’re

and these things are really tiny you’re talking about tens of nanometers or ten

talking about tens of nanometers or ten

talking about tens of nanometers or ten nanometers now and imagine you have to

nanometers now and imagine you have to

nanometers now and imagine you have to build a billion or several billion

build a billion or several billion

build a billion or several billion transistors and they all have to work if

transistors and they all have to work if

transistors and they all have to work if one or a few of them fail you can throw

one or a few of them fail you can throw

one or a few of them fail you can throw away the microprocessor which is a very

away the microprocessor which is a very

away the microprocessor which is a very expensive thing and so companies like

expensive thing and so companies like

expensive thing and so companies like Intel TSMC Samsung they have to invest

Intel TSMC Samsung they have to invest

Intel TSMC Samsung they have to invest billions of dollars to produce these

billions of dollars to produce these

billions of dollars to produce these things now if you look our brain the

things now if you look our brain the

things now if you look our brain the three aspects that I just discussed are

three aspects that I just discussed are

three aspects that I just discussed are slightly different rather than charging

slightly different rather than charging

slightly different rather than charging our battery we eat and drink which is a

our battery we eat and drink which is a

our battery we eat and drink which is a lot of fun of course so that’s not a

lot of fun of course so that’s not a

lot of fun of course so that’s not a problem

problem

problem interestingly enough the power

interestingly enough the power

interestingly enough the power that’s the energy per time that we move

that’s the energy per time that we move

that’s the energy per time that we move into our brain is about the same as the

into our brain is about the same as the

into our brain is about the same as the power that we move into our cell phones

power that we move into our cell phones

power that we move into our cell phones it’s a couple of what’s 10 toed about 10

it’s a couple of what’s 10 toed about 10

it’s a couple of what’s 10 toed about 10 watts a bit less for the cell phone a

watts a bit less for the cell phone a

watts a bit less for the cell phone a bit more data for your brain but the

bit more data for your brain but the

bit more data for your brain but the order of magnitude is the same

order of magnitude is the same

order of magnitude is the same another thing is on the right corner

another thing is on the right corner

another thing is on the right corner here is robustness and that is really

here is robustness and that is really

here is robustness and that is really interesting there is no company like

interesting there is no company like

interesting there is no company like Intel or TSMC or Samsung that builds our

Intel or TSMC or Samsung that builds our

Intel or TSMC or Samsung that builds our brain cells but they are growing during

brain cells but they are growing during

brain cells but they are growing during our development and very importantly

our development and very importantly

our development and very importantly they are also disappearing all the time

they are also disappearing all the time

they are also disappearing all the time we all lose about like one brain cell

we all lose about like one brain cell

we all lose about like one brain cell per second that’s a hundred thousand a

per second that’s a hundred thousand a

per second that’s a hundred thousand a day or PI times 10 to the 7 per year

day or PI times 10 to the 7 per year

day or PI times 10 to the 7 per year which is very very substantial of course

which is very very substantial of course

which is very very substantial of course when we we have 10 to the 11 so that’s

when we we have 10 to the 11 so that’s

when we we have 10 to the 11 so that’s not so bad but if you think of a

not so bad but if you think of a

not so bad but if you think of a microprocessor that loses one transistor

microprocessor that loses one transistor

microprocessor that loses one transistor per minute per second ever be a disaster

per minute per second ever be a disaster

per minute per second ever be a disaster it would stop working straightaway so

it would stop working straightaway so

it would stop working straightaway so the brain has a huge amount of whatever

the brain has a huge amount of whatever

the brain has a huge amount of whatever call robustness then most importantly

call robustness then most importantly

call robustness then most importantly there is this thing which are now

there is this thing which are now

there is this thing which are now painted red which is there are no

painted red which is there are no

painted red which is there are no software updates there is no software

software updates there is no software

software updates there is no software that you have to download to your brain

that you have to download to your brain

that you have to download to your brain because it improves your capabilities

because it improves your capabilities

because it improves your capabilities but you do that yourself by a process

but you do that yourself by a process

but you do that yourself by a process called learning sometimes also

called learning sometimes also

called learning sometimes also development and plasticity and you do

development and plasticity and you do

development and plasticity and you do that by interacting with the environment

that by interacting with the environment

that by interacting with the environment so if we could make a system an

so if we could make a system an

so if we could make a system an artificial system that has these

artificial system that has these

artificial system that has these features energy efficiency robustness

features energy efficiency robustness

features energy efficiency robustness and most importantly the ability to

and most importantly the ability to

and most importantly the ability to learn that would be huge so let’s think

learn that would be huge so let’s think

learn that would be huge so let’s think a little bit what the brain can really

a little bit what the brain can really

a little bit what the brain can really do which makes it so amazing and I

do which makes it so amazing and I

do which makes it so amazing and I selected the rather trivial thing here

selected the rather trivial thing here

selected the rather trivial thing here which is just playing tennis and we said

which is just playing tennis and we said

which is just playing tennis and we said ok like also robot can do but it’s not

ok like also robot can do but it’s not

ok like also robot can do but it’s not really true because if you think what we

really true because if you think what we

really true because if you think what we do here is quite impressive if you are

do here is quite impressive if you are

do here is quite impressive if you are playing tennis you can play tennis and

playing tennis you can play tennis and

playing tennis you can play tennis and any tennis called in the world even if

any tennis called in the world even if

any tennis called in the world even if you have never seen that particular

you have never seen that particular

you have never seen that particular before so you immediately adopted the

before so you immediately adopted the

before so you immediately adopted the environment based on the learning you

environment based on the learning you

environment based on the learning you perform many many years before it took

perform many many years before it took

perform many many years before it took you a while to get that far but once you

you a while to get that far but once you

you a while to get that far but once you are there you can do all these things

are there you can do all these things

are there you can do all these things then there’s a ball coming towards your

then there’s a ball coming towards your

then there’s a ball coming towards your tennis ball it was really high speed and

tennis ball it was really high speed and

tennis ball it was really high speed and you see it and you can move your arm and

you see it and you can move your arm and

you see it and you can move your arm and you can make something which is very

you can make something which is very

you can make something which is very important based on the input from your

important based on the input from your

important based on the input from your sensors from your vision sensors also

sensors from your vision sensors also

sensors from your vision sensors also from your appropriate sensors that that

from your appropriate sensors that that

from your appropriate sensors that that measure the position of your arms and

measure the position of your arms and

measure the position of your arms and your leg you can make a prediction you

your leg you can make a prediction you

your leg you can make a prediction you can make a prediction where and when the

can make a prediction where and when the

can make a prediction where and when the ball will hit your racket okay and that

ball will hit your racket okay and that

ball will hit your racket okay and that is prediction making based on very

is prediction making based on very

is prediction making based on very complex data entering your brain then

complex data entering your brain then

complex data entering your brain then you can hit the ball okay and can move

you can hit the ball okay and can move

you can hit the ball okay and can move your muscles in a controlled way and you

your muscles in a controlled way and you

your muscles in a controlled way and you want that the ball is not caught by your

want that the ball is not caught by your

want that the ball is not caught by your opponent so you sent to sent it

opponent so you sent to sent it

opponent so you sent to sent it somewhere else again it asks you to make

somewhere else again it asks you to make

somewhere else again it asks you to make a prediction

a prediction

a prediction so using complex data for prediction

so using complex data for prediction

so using complex data for prediction making is probably the single most

making is probably the single most

making is probably the single most important thing that our brain can do

important thing that our brain can do

important thing that our brain can do and we have a hard time doing this for

and we have a hard time doing this for

and we have a hard time doing this for computers so building a computer like

computers so building a computer like

computers so building a computer like the brain for these kind of things and

the brain for these kind of things and

the brain for these kind of things and I’m not only talking about robotics

I’m not only talking about robotics

I’m not only talking about robotics complex data can be more abstract it can

complex data can be more abstract it can

complex data can be more abstract it can be industry data for example business

be industry data for example business

be industry data for example business data science data medical data many kind

data science data medical data many kind

data science data medical data many kind of things look into the time sequence

of things look into the time sequence

of things look into the time sequence and make predictions would be great okay

and make predictions would be great okay

and make predictions would be great okay and so let’s have a little look on what

and so let’s have a little look on what

and so let’s have a little look on what these systems that we use all the time

these systems that we use all the time

these systems that we use all the time look like microscopically and although

look like microscopically and although

look like microscopically and although this is not quite the same scale it so

this is not quite the same scale it so

this is not quite the same scale it so tells you that these things are

tells you that these things are

tells you that these things are different on the right you see a

different on the right you see a

different on the right you see a microprocessor an Intel processor and

microprocessor an Intel processor and

microprocessor an Intel processor and you see it has these kind of a

you see it has these kind of a

you see it has these kind of a necessities very positively engineering

necessities very positively engineering

necessities very positively engineering approach it has clearly clearly defined

approach it has clearly clearly defined

approach it has clearly clearly defined components like memory routers

components like memory routers

components like memory routers connections compute units that are

connections compute units that are

connections compute units that are connected to form a computer

connected to form a computer

connected to form a computer architecture that has been engineered

architecture that has been engineered

architecture that has been engineered and that is mostly based on the idea of

and that is mostly based on the idea of

and that is mostly based on the idea of John for Norman and others we call that

John for Norman and others we call that

John for Norman and others we call that the phenomena architecture on the left

the phenomena architecture on the left

the phenomena architecture on the left you see sort of a millimeter slice of

you see sort of a millimeter slice of

you see sort of a millimeter slice of cortex of you

cortex of you

cortex of you cortex it’s a reconstructed one it’s not

cortex it’s a reconstructed one it’s not

cortex it’s a reconstructed one it’s not a real one and you see it has this it

a real one and you see it has this it

a real one and you see it has this it looks different it looks kind of regular

looks different it looks kind of regular

looks different it looks kind of regular rather uniform it has a layered type

rather uniform it has a layered type

rather uniform it has a layered type structure but if you would keep plotting

structure but if you would keep plotting

structure but if you would keep plotting these things over a large distance it

these things over a large distance it

these things over a large distance it would look like like everywhere the same

would look like like everywhere the same

would look like like everywhere the same and what it has is these little yellow

and what it has is these little yellow

and what it has is these little yellow dots they are yellow on this

dots they are yellow on this

dots they are yellow on this reconstruction and those are neural

reconstruction and those are neural

reconstruction and those are neural cells and there are fibers connecting

cells and there are fibers connecting

cells and there are fibers connecting these neural cells mostly vertically but

these neural cells mostly vertically but

these neural cells mostly vertically but sometimes also horizontally with each

sometimes also horizontally with each

sometimes also horizontally with each other and this is the system that does

other and this is the system that does

other and this is the system that does this amazing information processing that

this amazing information processing that

this amazing information processing that I mentioned before so how can we handle

I mentioned before so how can we handle

I mentioned before so how can we handle this how can we build a system that

this how can we build a system that

this how can we build a system that works like the brain where one is one

works like the brain where one is one

works like the brain where one is one idea is to take the left thing and put

idea is to take the left thing and put

idea is to take the left thing and put it on the right thing in other words to

it on the right thing in other words to

it on the right thing in other words to simulate okay and all right what you see

simulate okay and all right what you see

simulate okay and all right what you see here it’s hard to see it’s kind of

here it’s hard to see it’s kind of

here it’s hard to see it’s kind of darkish blue and it’s work done by Henry

darkish blue and it’s work done by Henry

darkish blue and it’s work done by Henry Markram

Markram

Markram one of my friends yet the human brain

one of my friends yet the human brain

one of my friends yet the human brain project and these people simulate brain

project and these people simulate brain

project and these people simulate brain cells on supercomputers and the

cells on supercomputers and the

cells on supercomputers and the simulation the important thing about

simulation the important thing about

simulation the important thing about simulation is that simulation tells you

simulation is that simulation tells you

simulation is that simulation tells you how things change with time simulations

how things change with time simulations

how things change with time simulations are not just static images but they tell

are not just static images but they tell

are not just static images but they tell you how things change with time and this

you how things change with time and this

you how things change with time and this is what Henry does and if he runs the

is what Henry does and if he runs the

is what Henry does and if he runs the simulation these are about 10,000

simulation these are about 10,000

simulation these are about 10,000 neurons 10 to the 4 they’re about 10 to

neurons 10 to the 4 they’re about 10 to

neurons 10 to the 4 they’re about 10 to the 11 and our brains are this is a

the 11 and our brains are this is a

the 11 and our brains are this is a small system you see that they fire so

small system you see that they fire so

small system you see that they fire so they communicate by electrical pulses

they communicate by electrical pulses

they communicate by electrical pulses and the colors here represent the

and the colors here represent the

and the colors here represent the voltage between the inside and the

voltage between the inside and the

voltage between the inside and the outside of the cell and if you analyze

outside of the cell and if you analyze

outside of the cell and if you analyze this data you find well it looks a lot

this data you find well it looks a lot

this data you find well it looks a lot like biological systems but there are

like biological systems but there are

like biological systems but there are problems one problem is that this

problems one problem is that this

problems one problem is that this simulation takes a lot of energy and if

simulation takes a lot of energy and if

simulation takes a lot of energy and if you look at the second row here energy

you look at the second row here energy

you look at the second row here energy per operation what do I mean by

per operation what do I mean by

per operation what do I mean by operation but it doesn’t really matter

operation but it doesn’t really matter

operation but it doesn’t really matter but it could be like producing one of

but it could be like producing one of

but it could be like producing one of these spikes which you have just seen so

these spikes which you have just seen so

these spikes which you have just seen so if you count the zeros there there are

if you count the zeros there there are

if you count the zeros there there are 14 so the simulation uses

14 so the simulation uses

14 so the simulation uses 10 to the 14 times more energy than the

10 to the 14 times more energy than the

10 to the 14 times more energy than the biological example 10 to the 14 is 10 by

biological example 10 to the 14 is 10 by

biological example 10 to the 14 is 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10

10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10

10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 that

by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 that

by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 by 10 that is a lot okay and that’s not all there

is a lot okay and that’s not all there

is a lot okay and that’s not all there is another problem and this is a most

is another problem and this is a most

is another problem and this is a most serious problem is that the simulation

serious problem is that the simulation

serious problem is that the simulation although it looks very fleshy but of

although it looks very fleshy but of

although it looks very fleshy but of course that’s just a movie

course that’s just a movie

course that’s just a movie and it doesn’t tell you the real

and it doesn’t tell you the real

and it doesn’t tell you the real simulation speed the simulation is a

simulation speed the simulation is a

simulation speed the simulation is a thousand times slower than biology is

thousand times slower than biology is

thousand times slower than biology is that a problem well I just said that to

that a problem well I just said that to

that a problem well I just said that to learn tennis or to learn languages or to

learn tennis or to learn languages or to

learn tennis or to learn languages or to learn whatever we do to develop to build

learn whatever we do to develop to build

learn whatever we do to develop to build an internal model of our world in our

an internal model of our world in our

an internal model of our world in our brain we need typically a year so this

brain we need typically a year so this

brain we need typically a year so this sentence is wrong there I’m sorry it

sentence is wrong there I’m sorry it

sentence is wrong there I’m sorry it should say a day of learning or say a

should say a day of learning or say a

should say a day of learning or say a year of learning needs about a thousand

year of learning needs about a thousand

year of learning needs about a thousand years of simulation which is totally out

years of simulation which is totally out

years of simulation which is totally out of range there is no way you can run a

of range there is no way you can run a

of range there is no way you can run a supercomputer for thousands of years

supercomputer for thousands of years

supercomputer for thousands of years and at the same time if you would scale

and at the same time if you would scale

and at the same time if you would scale it up to the human brain the simulation

it up to the human brain the simulation

it up to the human brain the simulation would use about five times all the

would use about five times all the

would use about five times all the electrical power that is being produced

electrical power that is being produced

electrical power that is being produced in Germany which you would have to focus

in Germany which you would have to focus

in Germany which you would have to focus on one computer you have to run

on one computer you have to run

on one computer you have to run thousands of years so it’s just no way

thousands of years so it’s just no way

thousands of years so it’s just no way that you can do that now let’s look a

that you can do that now let’s look a

that you can do that now let’s look a little bit this is this is a little bit

little bit this is this is a little bit

little bit this is this is a little bit about mathematics also okay I’m sorry

about mathematics also okay I’m sorry

about mathematics also okay I’m sorry this is an equation but this is a

this is an equation but this is a

this is an equation but this is a Technical University sorry this is the

Technical University sorry this is the

Technical University sorry this is the Technical University so you know what an

Technical University so you know what an

Technical University so you know what an equation is okay is it horrible this is

equation is okay is it horrible this is

equation is okay is it horrible this is a differential equation and a

a differential equation and a

a differential equation and a differential equation the most important

differential equation the most important

differential equation the most important thing on the left side at the bottom

thing on the left side at the bottom

thing on the left side at the bottom there you see in the equation you see a

there you see in the equation you see a

there you see in the equation you see a t a little T and the T is time okay and

t a little T and the T is time okay and

t a little T and the T is time okay and then you see a big V and that’s voltage

then you see a big V and that’s voltage

then you see a big V and that’s voltage so this equation tells you how the

so this equation tells you how the

so this equation tells you how the voltage between the inside and the

voltage between the inside and the

voltage between the inside and the outside of the cell changes its function

outside of the cell changes its function

outside of the cell changes its function of time and this is what hey

of time and this is what hey

of time and this is what hey reuses for simulations so if you go to a

reuses for simulations so if you go to a

reuses for simulations so if you go to a supercomputer what you do is you solve

supercomputer what you do is you solve

supercomputer what you do is you solve these equations and you solve tens of

these equations and you solve tens of

these equations and you solve tens of thousands of them and they are connected

thousands of them and they are connected

thousands of them and they are connected by these summations which you see there

by these summations which you see there

by these summations which you see there now this is why it takes so long because

now this is why it takes so long because

now this is why it takes so long because those who know a little bit about

those who know a little bit about

those who know a little bit about mathematics a tiny little bit you see

mathematics a tiny little bit you see

mathematics a tiny little bit you see that the derivative is proportional to

that the derivative is proportional to

that the derivative is proportional to the voltage is there a function where

the voltage is there a function where

the voltage is there a function where the derivative is proportional to the

the derivative is proportional to the

the derivative is proportional to the voltage I guess you probably do that

voltage I guess you probably do that

voltage I guess you probably do that kind of thing at school it’s called the

kind of thing at school it’s called the

kind of thing at school it’s called the exponential function so you have to

exponential function so you have to

exponential function so you have to calculate lots of exponential functions

calculate lots of exponential functions

calculate lots of exponential functions exponential functions look like that

exponential functions look like that

exponential functions look like that they are not linear and it takes a lot

they are not linear and it takes a lot

they are not linear and it takes a lot of time to calculate them now you have

of time to calculate them now you have

of time to calculate them now you have to move data across your phenomen

to move data across your phenomen

to move data across your phenomen machine all the time why this is why

machine all the time why this is why

machine all the time why this is why these simulations are so horribly

these simulations are so horribly

these simulations are so horribly inefficient now at the bottom there is

inefficient now at the bottom there is

inefficient now at the bottom there is anyway what we really have we know that

anyway what we really have we know that

anyway what we really have we know that our selves are can be n is to some

our selves are can be n is to some

our selves are can be n is to some extent replaced by electrical circuits

extent replaced by electrical circuits

extent replaced by electrical circuits like batteries capacitors and and

like batteries capacitors and and

like batteries capacitors and and conductances or resistors so what if we

conductances or resistors so what if we

conductances or resistors so what if we do something crazy it was a big if out

do something crazy it was a big if out

do something crazy it was a big if out we give up computing we don’t compute

we give up computing we don’t compute

we give up computing we don’t compute anymore we build computers that don’t

anymore we build computers that don’t

anymore we build computers that don’t compute that just our physical copies of

compute that just our physical copies of

compute that just our physical copies of the brain the brain moves ions through

the brain the brain moves ions through

the brain the brain moves ions through ourselves and we move electrons through

ourselves and we move electrons through

ourselves and we move electrons through transistors how about that ok this is a

transistors how about that ok this is a

transistors how about that ok this is a transistor you probably have seen these

transistor you probably have seen these

transistor you probably have seen these things transistors have three legs okay

things transistors have three legs okay

things transistors have three legs okay and these are the blue things

and these are the blue things

and these are the blue things the legs are source and drain and gate

the legs are source and drain and gate

the legs are source and drain and gate and this is a computer drawing of a

and this is a computer drawing of a

and this is a computer drawing of a transistor it’s not a real one it’s

transistor it’s not a real one it’s

transistor it’s not a real one it’s viewed from the top and the thing the

viewed from the top and the thing the

viewed from the top and the thing the blue thing on top is called the gate and

blue thing on top is called the gate and

blue thing on top is called the gate and the length of the gate

the length of the gate

the length of the gate somehow characterizes the size of the

somehow characterizes the size of the

somehow characterizes the size of the transistors this is in real life

transistors this is in real life

transistors this is in real life typically today around 10 nanometers or

typically today around 10 nanometers or

typically today around 10 nanometers or something like that now if you want to

something like that now if you want to

something like that now if you want to build a copy of the brain you have to be

build a copy of the brain you have to be

build a copy of the brain you have to be clever and wire up a circuit that works

clever and wire up a circuit that works

clever and wire up a circuit that works exactly like a brain works so this is

exactly like a brain works so this is

exactly like a brain works so this is all you have or you have a transistors

all you have or you have a transistors

all you have or you have a transistors and now you sit on your computer and you

and now you sit on your computer and you

and now you sit on your computer and you wire them up

wire them up

wire them up now we wire them up okay you see many

now we wire them up okay you see many

now we wire them up okay you see many transistors now like tens of transistors

transistors now like tens of transistors

transistors now like tens of transistors now you see maybe a hundred transistors

now you see maybe a hundred transistors

now you see maybe a hundred transistors and they look rather irregular we zoom

and they look rather irregular we zoom

and they look rather irregular we zoom out and we see that the structure starts

out and we see that the structure starts

out and we see that the structure starts to be more and more regular and what you

to be more and more regular and what you

to be more and more regular and what you see here are circuits for synapses you

see here are circuits for synapses you

see here are circuits for synapses you now see about I don’t know a thousand

now see about I don’t know a thousand

now see about I don’t know a thousand synapses we move out more and more now

synapses we move out more and more now

synapses we move out more and more now we see about 50,000 synapses and we see

we see about 50,000 synapses and we see

we see about 50,000 synapses and we see the border of what’s a chip five

the border of what’s a chip five

the border of what’s a chip five millimeter my times 10 me a hundred

millimeter my times 10 me a hundred

millimeter my times 10 me a hundred million ten millimeter then we see many

million ten millimeter then we see many

million ten millimeter then we see many chips all right there are also neurons

chips all right there are also neurons

chips all right there are also neurons on there and all these chips sit on

on there and all these chips sit on

on there and all these chips sit on something which we call a wafer that’s a

something which we call a wafer that’s a

something which we call a wafer that’s a disc of silicon and on this disc of

disc of silicon and on this disc of

disc of silicon and on this disc of silicon we have two hundred thousand

silicon we have two hundred thousand

silicon we have two hundred thousand neurons physical models they don’t solve

neurons physical models they don’t solve

neurons physical models they don’t solve equations but they are just circuits

equations but they are just circuits

equations but they are just circuits like the brain and 250 million synapses

like the brain and 250 million synapses

like the brain and 250 million synapses which can learn reconfigure and do all

which can learn reconfigure and do all

which can learn reconfigure and do all kinds of cool things and the great thing

kinds of cool things and the great thing

kinds of cool things and the great thing is you remember the circuit there was a

is you remember the circuit there was a

is you remember the circuit there was a resistor and a capacitor and this is an

resistor and a capacitor and this is an

resistor and a capacitor and this is an electrical engineering school also you

electrical engineering school also you

electrical engineering school also you know what happens if you multiply the

know what happens if you multiply the

know what happens if you multiply the value of a resistor and the capacitor

value of a resistor and the capacitor

value of a resistor and the capacitor you get a time and that’s the speed of

you get a time and that’s the speed of

you get a time and that’s the speed of the system

the system

the system it’s the decay time of an exponential

it’s the decay time of an exponential

it’s the decay time of an exponential that tells you how fast your system runs

that tells you how fast your system runs

that tells you how fast your system runs so if you are clever you could build a

so if you are clever you could build a

so if you are clever you could build a system where you scale you scale all the

system where you scale you scale all the

system where you scale you scale all the time constant by same factor say ten

time constant by same factor say ten

time constant by same factor say ten thousand so you could build a system

thousand so you could build a system

thousand so you could build a system like this one here which runs ten

like this one here which runs ten

like this one here which runs ten thousand times faster than biology why

thousand times faster than biology why

thousand times faster than biology why would you do that well think of the day

would you do that well think of the day

would you do that well think of the day of learning which in real life takes a

of learning which in real life takes a

of learning which in real life takes a day if you run it on a supercomputer it

day if you run it on a supercomputer it

day if you run it on a supercomputer it takes a thousand days if you run it on

takes a thousand days if you run it on

takes a thousand days if you run it on this system

this system

this system it runs ten seconds and that is the

it runs ten seconds and that is the

it runs ten seconds and that is the system to study learning and development

system to study learning and development

system to study learning and development which is really the key to making

which is really the key to making

which is really the key to making artificial neural systems work that was

artificial neural systems work that was

artificial neural systems work that was a computer drawing what you see here is

a computer drawing what you see here is

a computer drawing what you see here is real life this is a real piece of

real life this is a real piece of

real life this is a real piece of silicon ok

silicon ok

silicon ok it’s a

it’s a

it’s a many many chips you see them these

many many chips you see them these

many many chips you see them these little things which you saw on the

little things which you saw on the

little things which you saw on the computer drawing and this is a disc of

computer drawing and this is a disc of

computer drawing and this is a disc of 20 centimeters diameter and it contains

20 centimeters diameter and it contains

20 centimeters diameter and it contains as I said 50 million synapses end for

as I said 50 million synapses end for

as I said 50 million synapses end for end 200,000 neurons which you can wire

end 200,000 neurons which you can wire

end 200,000 neurons which you can wire up any way you like

up any way you like

up any way you like now of course having a disc of silicon

now of course having a disc of silicon

now of course having a disc of silicon is nothing you have to build a system

is nothing you have to build a system

is nothing you have to build a system out of it and I am tempted to call it a

out of it and I am tempted to call it a

out of it and I am tempted to call it a computer but it’s not really a computer

computer but it’s not really a computer

computer but it’s not really a computer it’s a physical model of a brain circuit

it’s a physical model of a brain circuit

it’s a physical model of a brain circuit this is one of those units which looks

this is one of those units which looks

this is one of those units which looks very strange it’s about that big and you

very strange it’s about that big and you

very strange it’s about that big and you see a lot of conventional electronic

see a lot of conventional electronic

see a lot of conventional electronic because you have to send power into the

because you have to send power into the

because you have to send power into the system you have to send data into the

system you have to send data into the

system you have to send data into the system you have to read out the data but

system you have to read out the data but

system you have to read out the data but underneath this pile of electronics is

underneath this pile of electronics is

underneath this pile of electronics is the matching by wafer which we call a

the matching by wafer which we call a

the matching by wafer which we call a neuromorphic system the banana finally

neuromorphic system the banana finally

neuromorphic system the banana finally there’s a real reason for it that’s at

there’s a real reason for it that’s at

there’s a real reason for it that’s at all pay off should we really do this if

all pay off should we really do this if

all pay off should we really do this if you eat a banana per hour okay if you

you eat a banana per hour okay if you

you eat a banana per hour okay if you just eat one banana you get energy

just eat one banana you get energy

just eat one banana you get energy energy you measure in kilo calories or

energy you measure in kilo calories or

energy you measure in kilo calories or Joule if you eat one of these things you

Joule if you eat one of these things you

Joule if you eat one of these things you get for your body and your brain 500,000

get for your body and your brain 500,000

get for your body and your brain 500,000 Joule if you eat one banana per hour

Joule if you eat one banana per hour

Joule if you eat one banana per hour that’s about 140 watts or this is a

that’s about 140 watts or this is a

that’s about 140 watts or this is a little bit of their 0.2 horsepowers

little bit of their 0.2 horsepowers

little bit of their 0.2 horsepowers which is enough to run your body you can

which is enough to run your body you can

which is enough to run your body you can live from a banana per hour

live from a banana per hour

live from a banana per hour I’m not saying is very healthy but

I’m not saying is very healthy but

I’m not saying is very healthy but energy wise energy wise that’s

energy wise energy wise that’s

energy wise energy wise that’s sufficient so how does this look like

sufficient so how does this look like

sufficient so how does this look like now in terms of computing the energy

now in terms of computing the energy

now in terms of computing the energy needed for sales synaptic transmission

needed for sales synaptic transmission

needed for sales synaptic transmission you know neurons are connected by

you know neurons are connected by

you know neurons are connected by synapses and we transmit a signal it

synapses and we transmit a signal it

synapses and we transmit a signal it requires a certain energy and if you

requires a certain energy and if you

requires a certain energy and if you look to our own brain and I’m not

look to our own brain and I’m not

look to our own brain and I’m not repeating all the zeros now this is now

repeating all the zeros now this is now

repeating all the zeros now this is now of course behind the zero you need about

of course behind the zero you need about

of course behind the zero you need about 10 to the minus 14 jul 2015 10

which is really very very efficient if

which is really very very efficient if you run the simulation on a

you run the simulation on a

you run the simulation on a supercomputer like the ones you have

supercomputer like the ones you have

supercomputer like the ones you have here in hewlett for example not far from

here in hewlett for example not far from

here in hewlett for example not far from here you typically use up to 1 joule so

here you typically use up to 1 joule so

here you typically use up to 1 joule so you only get 500,000 synaptic

you only get 500,000 synaptic

you only get 500,000 synaptic transmissions on a computer if you burn

transmissions on a computer if you burn

transmissions on a computer if you burn a banana and run a power station from it

a banana and run a power station from it

a banana and run a power station from it ok

ok

ok and your amorphic systems are somehow in

and your amorphic systems are somehow in

and your amorphic systems are somehow in between but on a very favorable way the

between but on a very favorable way the

between but on a very favorable way the neuromorphic systems are typically

neuromorphic systems are typically

neuromorphic systems are typically around 10 to the minus 10 joules so they

around 10 to the minus 10 joules so they

around 10 to the minus 10 joules so they are only a factor 10,000 away from

are only a factor 10,000 away from

are only a factor 10,000 away from biology and the factor 10 to the 10 away

biology and the factor 10 to the 10 away

biology and the factor 10 to the 10 away from conventional supercomputers so

from conventional supercomputers so

from conventional supercomputers so these are very energy efficient brain

these are very energy efficient brain

these are very energy efficient brain inspired computing systems more

inspired computing systems more

inspired computing systems more important is and that’s a bit difficult

important is and that’s a bit difficult

important is and that’s a bit difficult to understand time for a day or it’s

to understand time for a day or it’s

to understand time for a day or it’s time for a day a day takes a day well it

time for a day a day takes a day well it

time for a day a day takes a day well it doesn’t take a day if you look to your

doesn’t take a day if you look to your

doesn’t take a day if you look to your brain a day is a day ok that’s what we

brain a day is a day ok that’s what we

brain a day is a day ok that’s what we call real time again if you go to a

call real time again if you go to a

call real time again if you go to a supercomputer a day takes a thousand

supercomputer a day takes a thousand

supercomputer a day takes a thousand days because of the slowdown factor on

days because of the slowdown factor on

days because of the slowdown factor on the neuromorphic site systems the one we

the neuromorphic site systems the one we

the neuromorphic site systems the one we call brain scales and our lab at home

call brain scales and our lab at home

call brain scales and our lab at home it’s about 10 seconds so we have a

it’s about 10 seconds so we have a

it’s about 10 seconds so we have a system that is fault tolerant it runs

system that is fault tolerant it runs

system that is fault tolerant it runs even faster than biology and it’s

even faster than biology and it’s

even faster than biology and it’s extremely energy efficient and now we

extremely energy efficient and now we

extremely energy efficient and now we can go and do what people do with neural

can go and do what people do with neural

can go and do what people do with neural networks now like the deep learning

networks now like the deep learning

networks now like the deep learning experiments which are still very slow in

experiments which are still very slow in

experiments which are still very slow in learning and very energy inefficient and

learning and very energy inefficient and

learning and very energy inefficient and so what we do now is to move all the

so what we do now is to move all the

so what we do now is to move all the knowledge that we have on your networks

knowledge that we have on your networks

knowledge that we have on your networks and we add our knowledge of learning to

and we add our knowledge of learning to

and we add our knowledge of learning to make fast energy efficient learning

make fast energy efficient learning

make fast energy efficient learning systems to solve problems that we have

systems to solve problems that we have

systems to solve problems that we have to solve for cognitive computing and the

to solve for cognitive computing and the

to solve for cognitive computing and the problems are typically those which use

problems are typically those which use

problems are typically those which use complex data find the structure and

complex data find the structure and

complex data find the structure and complex data and make predictions in

complex data and make predictions in

complex data and make predictions in time and as I said the data can come

time and as I said the data can come

time and as I said the data can come from many sources it can come from

from many sources it can come from

from many sources it can come from sensors vision sensors movies things

sensors vision sensors movies things

sensors vision sensors movies things like that but also more abstract data

like that but also more abstract data

like that but also more abstract data like business data and in particular

like business data and in particular

like business data and in particular science and medical data and this is

science and medical data and this is

science and medical data and this is what we think is a very important

what we think is a very important

what we think is a very important contribution to make cognitive computing

contribution to make cognitive computing

contribution to make cognitive computing a reality

a reality

a reality now this was very superficial of course

now this was very superficial of course

now this was very superficial of course I just get 18 minutes and they are over

I just get 18 minutes and they are over

I just get 18 minutes and they are over now if you want to know more and I’m

now if you want to know more and I’m

now if you want to know more and I’m sure you want to know more if you even

sure you want to know more if you even

sure you want to know more if you even want to try it yourself I’m not allowed

want to try it yourself I’m not allowed

want to try it yourself I’m not allowed to show you’re else here people told me

to show you’re else here people told me

to show you’re else here people told me no propaganda so I do the propaganda by

no propaganda so I do the propaganda by

no propaganda so I do the propaganda by telling you there is a website where you

telling you there is a website where you

telling you there is a website where you can see all the details and it’s very

can see all the details and it’s very

can see all the details and it’s very easy to remember

easy to remember

easy to remember it’s called neuromorphic dot EU thank

it’s called neuromorphic dot EU thank

it’s called neuromorphic dot EU thank you very much

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