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Collaborating with machines at high altitude and speed | Maurizio Guzzetti | TEDxModenaSalon


good evening everyone this is obviously

good evening everyone this is obviously a picture of the italian air

a picture of the italian air

a picture of the italian air demonstration team fréchet thank you

demonstration team fréchet thank you

demonstration team fréchet thank you Laurie and if you look carefully at the

Laurie and if you look carefully at the

Laurie and if you look carefully at the top of the picture the distance between

top of the picture the distance between

top of the picture the distance between one aircraft’s wing tip and the tail of

one aircraft’s wing tip and the tail of

one aircraft’s wing tip and the tail of the aircraft next to it is around 80

the aircraft next to it is around 80

the aircraft next to it is around 80 centimeters yeah I said right 88 0

centimeters yeah I said right 88 0

centimeters yeah I said right 88 0 centimeters

centimeters

centimeters it varies Johnny airshow between 80

it varies Johnny airshow between 80

it varies Johnny airshow between 80 centimeters and 1.5 meters the speeds

centimeters and 1.5 meters the speeds

centimeters and 1.5 meters the speeds are in the average of 300 knots which is

are in the average of 300 knots which is

are in the average of 300 knots which is slightly below 600 kilometers an hour

slightly below 600 kilometers an hour

slightly below 600 kilometers an hour and the next slide please

and the next slide please

and the next slide please when when we do the formation crossings

when when we do the formation crossings

when when we do the formation crossings the distance between the two formations

the distance between the two formations

the distance between the two formations is a few meters and the relative speed

is a few meters and the relative speed

is a few meters and the relative speed is above a thousand kilometers an hour

is above a thousand kilometers an hour

is above a thousand kilometers an hour how do we do that a lot of people ask me

how do we do that a lot of people ask me

how do we do that a lot of people ask me yeah here’s a formation crossing a lot

yeah here’s a formation crossing a lot

yeah here’s a formation crossing a lot of people ask me hey yeah you must have

of people ask me hey yeah you must have

of people ask me hey yeah you must have been incredible computers in order to

been incredible computers in order to

been incredible computers in order to manage that and my answer

manage that and my answer

manage that and my answer normally amazes them because ironically

normally amazes them because ironically

normally amazes them because ironically we’re sitting in a high near constant

we’re sitting in a high near constant

we’re sitting in a high near constant rate of high technology and we hardly

rate of high technology and we hardly

rate of high technology and we hardly use any of that technology for a

use any of that technology for a

use any of that technology for a formation flying as we rely on eyes and

formation flying as we rely on eyes and

formation flying as we rely on eyes and our senses it’s called seat-of-the-pants

our senses it’s called seat-of-the-pants

our senses it’s called seat-of-the-pants flying basically it means our body feels

flying basically it means our body feels

flying basically it means our body feels everything that goes on and reacts

everything that goes on and reacts

everything that goes on and reacts accordingly

I’ll tell you a little story about this

I’ll tell you a little story about this when I started flying commercial

when I started flying commercial

when I started flying commercial aircraft big airplanes they put me in a

aircraft big airplanes they put me in a

aircraft big airplanes they put me in a simulator and I was feeling nauseous

simulator and I was feeling nauseous

simulator and I was feeling nauseous I was I was having problems so it was

I was I was having problems so it was

I was I was having problems so it was physically sick because all of a sudden

physically sick because all of a sudden

physically sick because all of a sudden what but this lied to me you know it

what but this lied to me you know it

what but this lied to me you know it never lied for 20 years and all of a

never lied for 20 years and all of a

never lied for 20 years and all of a sudden starts lying to me because what I

sudden starts lying to me because what I

sudden starts lying to me because what I see and what I feel are not the same

see and what I feel are not the same

see and what I feel are not the same thing

thing

thing simulators have a very good visual

simulators have a very good visual

simulators have a very good visual system and they have a motion system

system and they have a motion system

system and they have a motion system which cannot fool any good pilot so I

which cannot fool any good pilot so I

which cannot fool any good pilot so I had to spend months working hard to to

had to spend months working hard to to

had to spend months working hard to to eliminate the sensations to turn these

eliminate the sensations to turn these

eliminate the sensations to turn these regardless sensations that my body was

regardless sensations that my body was

regardless sensations that my body was feeling and try to only rely on my sight

feeling and try to only rely on my sight

feeling and try to only rely on my sight my eyes what I was seeing during an air

my eyes what I was seeing during an air

my eyes what I was seeing during an air show there was there are quite a few

show there was there are quite a few

show there was there are quite a few variables induced obviously one of them

variables induced obviously one of them

variables induced obviously one of them is the terrain morphology other ones are

is the terrain morphology other ones are

is the terrain morphology other ones are the weather the wind speed and

the weather the wind speed and

the weather the wind speed and directions are extremely important in

directions are extremely important in

directions are extremely important in their show so is the cloud based the

their show so is the cloud based the

their show so is the cloud based the visibility and then the pilot we are a

visibility and then the pilot we are a

visibility and then the pilot we are a variable ourselves we don’t perform the

variable ourselves we don’t perform the

variable ourselves we don’t perform the same way every day so we can’t rely on a

same way every day so we can’t rely on a

same way every day so we can’t rely on a standard performance to codify our

standard performance to codify our

standard performance to codify our actual performance in the flight so no

actual performance in the flight so no

actual performance in the flight so no two air shows are the same in case of

two air shows are the same in case of

two air shows are the same in case of problems we solve the speeds are and

problems we solve the speeds are and

problems we solve the speeds are and what the distances are you might well

what the distances are you might well

what the distances are you might well appreciate that in case of problems we

appreciate that in case of problems we

appreciate that in case of problems we need to react fast and we’re talking

need to react fast and we’re talking

need to react fast and we’re talking hundreds of a second how do we do that

hundreds of a second how do we do that

hundreds of a second how do we do that because we cannot make a consistent

because we cannot make a consistent

because we cannot make a consistent decision in a hundredth of a second

decision in a hundredth of a second

decision in a hundredth of a second there’s no way to do that we need to

there’s no way to do that we need to

there’s no way to do that we need to revert to a stings one problem there are

revert to a stings one problem there are

revert to a stings one problem there are a stings evolved to enable us to climb

a stings evolved to enable us to climb

a stings evolved to enable us to climb trees and chase animals and certainly

trees and chase animals and certainly

trees and chase animals and certainly not to fly high-performance aircraft so

not to fly high-performance aircraft so

not to fly high-performance aircraft so here there’s a need

here there’s a need

here there’s a need – we cannot rely on pure instincts

– we cannot rely on pure instincts

– we cannot rely on pure instincts because they’re very fast lightning fast

because they’re very fast lightning fast

because they’re very fast lightning fast but inadequate and inaccurate so here’s

but inadequate and inaccurate so here’s

but inadequate and inaccurate so here’s the need to educate and train our

the need to educate and train our

the need to educate and train our instincts so as to have a quick reaction

instincts so as to have a quick reaction

instincts so as to have a quick reaction a blink of an eye but it must be an

a blink of an eye but it must be an

a blink of an eye but it must be an educated one it must be a consistent one

educated one it must be a consistent one

educated one it must be a consistent one consistent with situation we’re in well

consistent with situation we’re in well

consistent with situation we’re in well how do we do that we build a mental

how do we do that we build a mental

how do we do that we build a mental equation that contains as many of the

equation that contains as many of the

equation that contains as many of the parameters apart as possible of a

parameters apart as possible of a

parameters apart as possible of a situation surrounding us the weather

situation surrounding us the weather

situation surrounding us the weather situation the wind comes from and this

situation the wind comes from and this

situation the wind comes from and this and that so that in case of need we only

and that so that in case of need we only

and that so that in case of need we only have to insert that very little

have to insert that very little

have to insert that very little parameter that was missing and the

parameter that was missing and the

parameter that was missing and the situation would be solved this equation

situation would be solved this equation

situation would be solved this equation has to be constantly updated throughout

has to be constantly updated throughout

has to be constantly updated throughout the airshow to compensate for our

the airshow to compensate for our

the airshow to compensate for our position in space for instance and and

position in space for instance and and

position in space for instance and and and all the variables involved during

and all the variables involved during

and all the variables involved during the flying yourself and I I’m not an

the flying yourself and I I’m not an

the flying yourself and I I’m not an expert in car racing or motorbike racing

expert in car racing or motorbike racing

expert in car racing or motorbike racing but I’m quite an expert to dinner in

but I’m quite an expert to dinner in

but I’m quite an expert to dinner in high-performance airplane flying and I

high-performance airplane flying and I

high-performance airplane flying and I think the difference between an

think the difference between an

think the difference between an excellent pilot and an average one it’s

excellent pilot and an average one it’s

excellent pilot and an average one it’s the ability to perform is that the

the ability to perform is that the

the ability to perform is that the excellent pilot has the ability to

excellent pilot has the ability to

excellent pilot has the ability to perform its task using only a certain

perform its task using only a certain

perform its task using only a certain percentage of his CPU of his brain power

percentage of his CPU of his brain power

percentage of his CPU of his brain power so as to leave a sizable amount of his

so as to leave a sizable amount of his

so as to leave a sizable amount of his CPU time to improve its situational

CPU time to improve its situational

CPU time to improve its situational awareness and and an adapted to the

awareness and and an adapted to the

awareness and and an adapted to the contingent situation defying the high

contingent situation defying the high

contingent situation defying the high performance flying itself is not it’s

performance flying itself is not it’s

performance flying itself is not it’s not easy it’s very demanding and there

not easy it’s very demanding and there

not easy it’s very demanding and there are quite a few problems emergency

are quite a few problems emergency

are quite a few problems emergency situations and so on not so in the

situations and so on not so in the

situations and so on not so in the civilian airliner flying obviously

civilian airliner flying obviously

civilian airliner flying obviously thankfully and I don’t need I don’t mean

thankfully and I don’t need I don’t mean

thankfully and I don’t need I don’t mean to scare you people by telling you an

to scare you people by telling you an

to scare you people by telling you an experience I’ve had a few years ago in

experience I’ve had a few years ago in

experience I’ve had a few years ago in 2004 it was one of the few occasions

2004 it was one of the few occasions

2004 it was one of the few occasions where during civilian flight

where during civilian flight

where during civilian flight I had to put to work these concepts I

I had to put to work these concepts I

I had to put to work these concepts I just told you about it was 2004 and the

just told you about it was 2004 and the

just told you about it was 2004 and the the flight I was flying a 767-300 from

the flight I was flying a 767-300 from

the flight I was flying a 767-300 from Fiumicino to Havana and we were a few

Fiumicino to Havana and we were a few

Fiumicino to Havana and we were a few Muccino on the runway 287 passengers

Muccino on the runway 287 passengers

Muccino on the runway 287 passengers fully loaded airplane max takeoff weight

fully loaded airplane max takeoff weight

fully loaded airplane max takeoff weight and during the take-off the right engine

and during the take-off the right engine

and during the take-off the right engine explodes that was the result huge fire

explodes that was the result huge fire

explodes that was the result huge fire and it happened at the worst possible

and it happened at the worst possible

and it happened at the worst possible moment which is a few nos before v1 v1

moment which is a few nos before v1 v1

moment which is a few nos before v1 v1 is a speed that pilots compute beyond

is a speed that pilots compute beyond

is a speed that pilots compute beyond which speed the airplane cannot anymore

which speed the airplane cannot anymore

which speed the airplane cannot anymore stop on the way on the runway remaining

stop on the way on the runway remaining

stop on the way on the runway remaining so you have to take off however that

so you have to take off however that

so you have to take off however that happened three or four knots before v1

happened three or four knots before v1

happened three or four knots before v1 and if I’d follow standard procedures I

and if I’d follow standard procedures I

and if I’d follow standard procedures I would have stopped and if I had stopped

would have stopped and if I had stopped

would have stopped and if I had stopped that day I would have killed people

that day I would have killed people

that day I would have killed people because there was a quite a strong wind

because there was a quite a strong wind

because there was a quite a strong wind from the right side during the takeoff

from the right side during the takeoff

from the right side during the takeoff and with the right engine exploding and

and with the right engine exploding and

and with the right engine exploding and and a lot of fuel on board during the

and a lot of fuel on board during the

and a lot of fuel on board during the time I spent to stop on the runway the

time I spent to stop on the runway the

time I spent to stop on the runway the wind would have brought the flames

wind would have brought the flames

wind would have brought the flames towards the plane and they would have

towards the plane and they would have

towards the plane and they would have hit the cabin and people would have died

hit the cabin and people would have died

hit the cabin and people would have died and I elected to go there is no way that

and I elected to go there is no way that

and I elected to go there is no way that my brain could have made that decision

considering all the parameters in about

considering all the parameters in about one third of a second which is what it

one third of a second which is what it

one third of a second which is what it took me to what took me to to decide to

took me to what took me to to decide to

took me to what took me to to decide to continue the the takeoff and that

continue the the takeoff and that

continue the the takeoff and that happened because before the takeoff

happened because before the takeoff

happened because before the takeoff I did it and I do it every time and I do

I did it and I do it every time and I do

I did it and I do it every time and I do it unconsciously even I am absorbing all

it unconsciously even I am absorbing all

it unconsciously even I am absorbing all the parameters which is what good pilots

the parameters which is what good pilots

the parameters which is what good pilots do really absorbing all the parameters

do really absorbing all the parameters

do really absorbing all the parameters and building a mental picture of my

and building a mental picture of my

and building a mental picture of my surroundings which is called situation

surroundings which is called situation

surroundings which is called situation awareness in my mind new automatically

awareness in my mind new automatically

awareness in my mind new automatically where the wind would be coming from

where the wind would be coming from

where the wind would be coming from during the take-off which is from my

during the take-off which is from my

during the take-off which is from my right so in one third of a second I

right so in one third of a second I

right so in one third of a second I realized that the right engines on fire

realized that the right engines on fire

realized that the right engines on fire and now we’re in trouble if I stopped so

and now we’re in trouble if I stopped so

and now we’re in trouble if I stopped so we continued and we came back to land

we continued and we came back to land

we continued and we came back to land safely

safely

safely no problem nobody got

no problem nobody got

no problem nobody got the fire didn’t stop so we had to come

the fire didn’t stop so we had to come

the fire didn’t stop so we had to come back every wait but there was another

back every wait but there was another

back every wait but there was another story so there are quite a few people

story so there are quite a few people

story so there are quite a few people here scientists and and scholars

here scientists and and scholars

here scientists and and scholars involved in and into an artificial

involved in and into an artificial

involved in and into an artificial intelligence human machine interface

intelligence human machine interface

intelligence human machine interface autonomous driving driving and flying

autonomous driving driving and flying

autonomous driving driving and flying and my idea today is that I want to

and my idea today is that I want to

and my idea today is that I want to throw there a little challenge well

throw there a little challenge well

throw there a little challenge well that’s not little it’s a big challenge

that’s not little it’s a big challenge

that’s not little it’s a big challenge that if we drive a car on a day-to-day

that if we drive a car on a day-to-day

that if we drive a car on a day-to-day basis going to working back we are there

basis going to working back we are there

basis going to working back we are there already we have cars going by themselves

already we have cars going by themselves

already we have cars going by themselves really but if we want to fly or drive or

really but if we want to fly or drive or

really but if we want to fly or drive or ride a motorbike in a racing environment

ride a motorbike in a racing environment

ride a motorbike in a racing environment or high very demanding environments such

or high very demanding environments such

or high very demanding environments such as as high performance lying we need to

as as high performance lying we need to

as as high performance lying we need to introduce some instincts I don’t know

introduce some instincts I don’t know

introduce some instincts I don’t know how to call them but to me there are the

how to call them but to me there are the

how to call them but to me there are the artificial instincts every one of us has

artificial instincts every one of us has

artificial instincts every one of us has been driving one day and we feel there’s

been driving one day and we feel there’s

been driving one day and we feel there’s something wrong there’s no clues out

something wrong there’s no clues out

something wrong there’s no clues out they are telling us what’s wrong but we

they are telling us what’s wrong but we

they are telling us what’s wrong but we feel it with our skin something is wrong

feel it with our skin something is wrong

feel it with our skin something is wrong and the hair rises on the back of our

and the hair rises on the back of our

and the hair rises on the back of our neck and then sure enough something

neck and then sure enough something

neck and then sure enough something happens so instincts in a way help us to

happens so instincts in a way help us to

happens so instincts in a way help us to praveen something and to prevent

praveen something and to prevent

praveen something and to prevent something and we the challenge to the

something and we the challenge to the

something and we the challenge to the people studying at the vision test will

people studying at the vision test will

people studying at the vision test will be to approximate instinct instinctive

be to approximate instinct instinctive

be to approximate instinct instinctive reaction to try and predict what’s going

reaction to try and predict what’s going

reaction to try and predict what’s going to happen rather than than to react to

to happen rather than than to react to

to happen rather than than to react to what’s happened I’ll bite fast thank you

what’s happened I’ll bite fast thank you

what’s happened I’ll bite fast thank you very much

very much

very much you

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