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Can we get from A to B without burning dinosaurs | Allan Hutchinson | TEDxOxfordBrookesUniversity


over 25% of all our energy is used in

over 25% of all our energy is used in transport that problem is that the

transport that problem is that the

transport that problem is that the emissions from burning fossil fuel in

emissions from burning fossil fuel in

emissions from burning fossil fuel in transport are slowly killing us so I

transport are slowly killing us so I

transport are slowly killing us so I want to try to convince you that our

want to try to convince you that our

want to try to convince you that our attitude towards energy has really got

attitude towards energy has really got

attitude towards energy has really got to change I know that energy is very

to change I know that energy is very

to change I know that energy is very accessible at the flick of a switch but

accessible at the flick of a switch but

accessible at the flick of a switch but actually we need to use a lot less of it

actually we need to use a lot less of it

actually we need to use a lot less of it or at least get it from a greener source

or at least get it from a greener source

or at least get it from a greener source basically we’ve got to stop burning the

basically we’ve got to stop burning the

basically we’ve got to stop burning the dinosaurs and we need to change our

dinosaurs and we need to change our

dinosaurs and we need to change our behaviour in how we decide to get from A

behaviour in how we decide to get from A

behaviour in how we decide to get from A to B we all need and want mobility in a

to B we all need and want mobility in a

to B we all need and want mobility in a civilized society to transport goods to

civilized society to transport goods to

civilized society to transport goods to mobilize the emergency services to

mobilize the emergency services to

mobilize the emergency services to access health care for education to get

access health care for education to get

access health care for education to get to work to enjoy ourselves in our

to work to enjoy ourselves in our

to work to enjoy ourselves in our leisure time mobility is truly taken as

leisure time mobility is truly taken as

leisure time mobility is truly taken as the mark of a civilized society now I

the mark of a civilized society now I

the mark of a civilized society now I recognize travel with about 30,000 miles

recognize travel with about 30,000 miles

recognize travel with about 30,000 miles last year there were being commuting

last year there were being commuting

last year there were being commuting business trips holidays and leisure

business trips holidays and leisure

business trips holidays and leisure activities and over my sort of limited

activities and over my sort of limited

activities and over my sort of limited lifetime that would be maybe about one

lifetime that would be maybe about one

lifetime that would be maybe about one and a half million miles in a lifetime

and a half million miles in a lifetime

and a half million miles in a lifetime okay so one and a half million miles now

okay so one and a half million miles now

okay so one and a half million miles now I don’t know how many barrels of oil

I don’t know how many barrels of oil

I don’t know how many barrels of oil I’ve used but it’s a lot and that’s just

I’ve used but it’s a lot and that’s just

I’ve used but it’s a lot and that’s just for me so I’d like to ask you to ask

for me so I’d like to ask you to ask

for me so I’d like to ask you to ask yourselves how far you think you

yourselves how far you think you

yourselves how far you think you traveled in the last 12 months and how

traveled in the last 12 months and how

traveled in the last 12 months and how much oil you burn to do that and then

much oil you burn to do that and then

much oil you burn to do that and then multiply then up by the global

multiply then up by the global

multiply then up by the global population that’s a lot of oil we’ve

population that’s a lot of oil we’ve

population that’s a lot of oil we’ve seen an unprecedented increase in the

seen an unprecedented increase in the

seen an unprecedented increase in the global population it’s been nearly three

global population it’s been nearly three

global population it’s been nearly three fold in my lifetime

fold in my lifetime

fold in my lifetime and I’m really not that old and I’m not

and I’m really not that old and I’m not

and I’m really not that old and I’m not responsible either way so we’re all

responsible either way so we’re all

responsible either way so we’re all consumers we exploit resources we buy

consumers we exploit resources we buy

consumers we exploit resources we buy stuff and we want to move around the the

stuff and we want to move around the the

stuff and we want to move around the the world’s population is increasingly City

world’s population is increasingly City

world’s population is increasingly City based so we have congestion in urban

based so we have congestion in urban

based so we have congestion in urban areas that’s all we use is vast amounts

areas that’s all we use is vast amounts

areas that’s all we use is vast amounts of energy it generates emissions and air

of energy it generates emissions and air

of energy it generates emissions and air quality issues urban mobility therefore

quality issues urban mobility therefore

quality issues urban mobility therefore represents a significant challenge as

represents a significant challenge as

represents a significant challenge as the number of urban journeys increase we

the number of urban journeys increase we

the number of urban journeys increase we reckon that about 20% of all the traffic

reckon that about 20% of all the traffic

reckon that about 20% of all the traffic driving around is just looking for a

driving around is just looking for a

driving around is just looking for a parking space another 20% of city

parking space another 20% of city

parking space another 20% of city traffic is actually accessing healthcare

traffic is actually accessing healthcare

traffic is actually accessing healthcare services people going to see their

services people going to see their

services people going to see their doctors people going to hospitals

doctors people going to hospitals

doctors people going to hospitals getting prescriptions perhaps when

getting prescriptions perhaps when

getting prescriptions perhaps when they’re going to the hospitals they may

they’re going to the hospitals they may

they’re going to the hospitals they may even be going there to consult about

even be going there to consult about

even be going there to consult about some kind of respiratory related problem

some kind of respiratory related problem

some kind of respiratory related problem how ironic that would be now our planet

how ironic that would be now our planet

how ironic that would be now our planet needs a blanket of gases around it to

needs a blanket of gases around it to

needs a blanket of gases around it to protect us and the direct effects of the

protect us and the direct effects of the

protect us and the direct effects of the Sun and to give us a relatively stable

Sun and to give us a relatively stable

Sun and to give us a relatively stable climates it would be very very cold

climates it would be very very cold

climates it would be very very cold without that blanket of gas these are

without that blanket of gas these are

without that blanket of gas these are the natural greenhouse gases the problem

the natural greenhouse gases the problem

the natural greenhouse gases the problem is that we’ve been adding to that

is that we’ve been adding to that

is that we’ve been adding to that blanket from burning fossil fuel and

blanket from burning fossil fuel and

blanket from burning fossil fuel and that’s been making things a little bit

that’s been making things a little bit

that’s been making things a little bit warmer so this is what we call manmade

warmer so this is what we call manmade

warmer so this is what we call manmade global warming the estimates for the

global warming the estimates for the

global warming the estimates for the increase in carbon dioxide levels are

increase in carbon dioxide levels are

increase in carbon dioxide levels are rather worrying emissions from transport

rather worrying emissions from transport

rather worrying emissions from transport alone have been rising at about 6

alone have been rising at about 6

alone have been rising at about 6 percent per year for the last 40 years

percent per year for the last 40 years

percent per year for the last 40 years and that’s despite all the mitigation

and that’s despite all the mitigation

and that’s despite all the mitigation measures that have been taken so far

measures that have been taken so far

measures that have been taken so far like all of the more efficient vehicles

like all of the more efficient vehicles

like all of the more efficient vehicles still rising at 6%

now carbon dioxide levels have been

now carbon dioxide levels have been monitored for a long time in fact a guy

monitored for a long time in fact a guy

monitored for a long time in fact a guy called Ralph Keeling has been measuring

called Ralph Keeling has been measuring

called Ralph Keeling has been measuring co2 levels at the top of Mauna Loa in

co2 levels at the top of Mauna Loa in

co2 levels at the top of Mauna Loa in Hawaii for probably 40 or 50 years and

Hawaii for probably 40 or 50 years and

Hawaii for probably 40 or 50 years and the so-called Keeling curve records a

the so-called Keeling curve records a

the so-called Keeling curve records a steady increase in carbon dioxide levels

steady increase in carbon dioxide levels

steady increase in carbon dioxide levels of four parts per million per year every

of four parts per million per year every

of four parts per million per year every year year-on-year currently it’s at

year year-on-year currently it’s at

year year-on-year currently it’s at least 400 parts per million if we don’t

least 400 parts per million if we don’t

least 400 parts per million if we don’t do anything about that

do anything about that

do anything about that it’ll be 700 parts per million by the

it’ll be 700 parts per million by the

it’ll be 700 parts per million by the end of this century

now the 2050 climate change act which

now the 2050 climate change act which lots of governments signed up to

lots of governments signed up to

lots of governments signed up to requires us to get back to levels of co2

requires us to get back to levels of co2

requires us to get back to levels of co2 last seen hundreds of years ago frankly

last seen hundreds of years ago frankly

last seen hundreds of years ago frankly I think that’s impossible now the focus

I think that’s impossible now the focus

I think that’s impossible now the focus of many governments has in fact changed

of many governments has in fact changed

of many governments has in fact changed from looking at co2 to air quality

from looking at co2 to air quality

from looking at co2 to air quality because airborne pollution is being

because airborne pollution is being

because airborne pollution is being measured and the effects on health are

measured and the effects on health are

measured and the effects on health are becoming recognized tailpipe emissions

becoming recognized tailpipe emissions

becoming recognized tailpipe emissions from dirty old diesel engines are

from dirty old diesel engines are

from dirty old diesel engines are obvious but petrol engine vehicles also

obvious but petrol engine vehicles also

obvious but petrol engine vehicles also emit all sorts of gases and particulates

emit all sorts of gases and particulates

emit all sorts of gases and particulates they’re just too small to see and then

they’re just too small to see and then

they’re just too small to see and then there’s the dust from the brakes and the

there’s the dust from the brakes and the

there’s the dust from the brakes and the tires because these components wear out

tires because these components wear out

tires because these components wear out so local air pollution in cities is seen

so local air pollution in cities is seen

so local air pollution in cities is seen as quite a big problem and that leads to

as quite a big problem and that leads to

as quite a big problem and that leads to the respiratory diseases asthma and so

the respiratory diseases asthma and so

the respiratory diseases asthma and so on globally we are told that there are

on globally we are told that there are

on globally we are told that there are over 5 million premature deaths per year

over 5 million premature deaths per year

over 5 million premature deaths per year from poor air quality in the UK it’s

from poor air quality in the UK it’s

from poor air quality in the UK it’s reckoned to be over 50,000 premature

reckoned to be over 50,000 premature

reckoned to be over 50,000 premature deaths per year you see it’s just

deaths per year you see it’s just

deaths per year you see it’s just killing us slowly it’s a little bit like

killing us slowly it’s a little bit like

killing us slowly it’s a little bit like passive smoking

now against that background the world

now against that background the world energy consumption could well treble by

energy consumption could well treble by

energy consumption could well treble by the end of this century basically

the end of this century basically

the end of this century basically because it’s linked to population and to

because it’s linked to population and to

because it’s linked to population and to F alone if you’ve got money you buy

F alone if you’ve got money you buy

F alone if you’ve got money you buy stuff you move around you commute you go

stuff you move around you commute you go

stuff you move around you commute you go on holidays globally most of our energy

on holidays globally most of our energy

on holidays globally most of our energy comes from fossil fuels burning coal

comes from fossil fuels burning coal

comes from fossil fuels burning coal burning gas burning oil

burning gas burning oil

burning gas burning oil now these fuels took millions of years

now these fuels took millions of years

now these fuels took millions of years to form

to form

to form they’ll take just as long to replace and

they’ll take just as long to replace and

they’ll take just as long to replace and yet we burn them in seconds there we

yet we burn them in seconds there we

yet we burn them in seconds there we also have nuclear energy it’s apparently

also have nuclear energy it’s apparently

also have nuclear energy it’s apparently clean but that’s before we start to

clean but that’s before we start to

clean but that’s before we start to consider the long term nuclear waste now

consider the long term nuclear waste now

consider the long term nuclear waste now what we call renewable energy is the

what we call renewable energy is the

what we call renewable energy is the energy that occurs naturally and

energy that occurs naturally and

energy that occurs naturally and continuously in the environment such as

continuously in the environment such as

continuously in the environment such as the energy from the Sun from the wind

the energy from the Sun from the wind

the energy from the Sun from the wind waves tidal flows and so on and these

waves tidal flows and so on and these

waves tidal flows and so on and these sources are basically inexhaustible but

sources are basically inexhaustible but

sources are basically inexhaustible but they are intermittent in nature so

they are intermittent in nature so

they are intermittent in nature so there’s a growing demand for us to get

there’s a growing demand for us to get

there’s a growing demand for us to get renewables to be a much larger part of

renewables to be a much larger part of

renewables to be a much larger part of the energy mix currently they’re about

the energy mix currently they’re about

the energy mix currently they’re about 20% of the UK’s electricity grid but

20% of the UK’s electricity grid but

20% of the UK’s electricity grid but they really do need to be much more so

they really do need to be much more so

they really do need to be much more so if we bring this all back to transport

if we bring this all back to transport

if we bring this all back to transport how can we get from A to B in our cities

how can we get from A to B in our cities

how can we get from A to B in our cities well of course we take encourage more

well of course we take encourage more

well of course we take encourage more walking and cycling that would be good

walking and cycling that would be good

walking and cycling that would be good for us we would encourage people to use

for us we would encourage people to use

for us we would encourage people to use public transport more we could have

public transport more we could have

public transport more we could have intelligent transport systems we could

intelligent transport systems we could

intelligent transport systems we could get real-time information about

get real-time information about

get real-time information about congestion so that we could avoid the

congestion so that we could avoid the

congestion so that we could avoid the bottlenecks

bottlenecks

bottlenecks we could reduce congestion and pollution

we could reduce congestion and pollution

we could reduce congestion and pollution with fewer more efficient vehicles we

with fewer more efficient vehicles we

with fewer more efficient vehicles we could share vehicles most people who

could share vehicles most people who

could share vehicles most people who have a car barely use it for five

have a car barely use it for five

have a car barely use it for five percent of its life so maybe we could

percent of its life so maybe we could

percent of its life so maybe we could rent out the other ninety five percent

rent out the other ninety five percent

rent out the other ninety five percent in effect sort of Airbnb a car but

in effect sort of Airbnb a car but

in effect sort of Airbnb a car but better than that perhaps would be to

better than that perhaps would be to

better than that perhaps would be to imagine a monthly mobility card like an

imagine a monthly mobility card like an

imagine a monthly mobility card like an oyster card just for city dwellers sort

oyster card just for city dwellers sort

oyster card just for city dwellers sort of go anywhere use any form of transport

of go anywhere use any form of transport

of go anywhere use any form of transport you like just for a monthly subscription

you like just for a monthly subscription

you like just for a monthly subscription I think that would be a great idea to

I think that would be a great idea to

I think that would be a great idea to reduce congestion and utilize resources

reduce congestion and utilize resources

reduce congestion and utilize resources which we are already using and have got

which we are already using and have got

which we are already using and have got out there the general approach so far to

out there the general approach so far to

out there the general approach so far to to clean up the air in our cities is to

to clean up the air in our cities is to

to clean up the air in our cities is to go electric so why would you want to go

go electric so why would you want to go

go electric so why would you want to go electric well because there are no

electric well because there are no

electric well because there are no tailpipe emissions there’s no pollution

tailpipe emissions there’s no pollution

tailpipe emissions there’s no pollution at source and a nice bonus it’s quieter

at source and a nice bonus it’s quieter

at source and a nice bonus it’s quieter the question is where does the

the question is where does the

the question is where does the electricity come from it’s not magic

electricity come from it’s not magic

electricity come from it’s not magic you know it comes from the grid and so

you know it comes from the grid and so

you know it comes from the grid and so unless we have a much greener energy

unless we have a much greener energy

unless we have a much greener energy grid the emissions are just transferred

grid the emissions are just transferred

grid the emissions are just transferred to the power station so it’s good for

to the power station so it’s good for

to the power station so it’s good for the city doesn’t make much difference to

the city doesn’t make much difference to

the city doesn’t make much difference to the planet in terms of personal mobility

the planet in terms of personal mobility

the planet in terms of personal mobility the issue is weight heavy vehicles will

the issue is weight heavy vehicles will

the issue is weight heavy vehicles will always use a lot of energy especially to

always use a lot of energy especially to

always use a lot of energy especially to go up a hill and it doesn’t matter where

go up a hill and it doesn’t matter where

go up a hill and it doesn’t matter where they’re electric or fossil fuel they

they’re electric or fossil fuel they

they’re electric or fossil fuel they just use a lot of energy it takes a lot

just use a lot of energy it takes a lot

just use a lot of energy it takes a lot of energy to move a heavy object an

of energy to move a heavy object an

of energy to move a heavy object an empty car weighs around about one and a

empty car weighs around about one and a

empty car weighs around about one and a half tons an empty double-decker bus

half tons an empty double-decker bus

half tons an empty double-decker bus about 12 tons so one person in a car is

about 12 tons so one person in a car is

about 12 tons so one person in a car is basically moving at least twenty times

basically moving at least twenty times

basically moving at least twenty times their own body weight basically we’re

their own body weight basically we’re

their own body weight basically we’re moving twenty times our own body weight

moving twenty times our own body weight

moving twenty times our own body weight just to get from A to B the

just to get from A to B the

just to get from A to B the mr. transport is to get from A to B not

mr. transport is to get from A to B not

mr. transport is to get from A to B not to move all that material as well so

to move all that material as well so

to move all that material as well so we’re actually moving huge masses of

we’re actually moving huge masses of

we’re actually moving huge masses of material it’s very inefficient and

material it’s very inefficient and

material it’s very inefficient and that’s even before we talk about the

that’s even before we talk about the

that’s even before we talk about the efficiency of the modes of transport

efficiency of the modes of transport

efficiency of the modes of transport themselves and this really matters if

themselves and this really matters if

themselves and this really matters if the energy that is used to move that

the energy that is used to move that

the energy that is used to move that transport is not renewable energy so

transport is not renewable energy so

transport is not renewable energy so let’s just think a little bit more about

let’s just think a little bit more about

let’s just think a little bit more about electric transport a large battery

electric transport a large battery

electric transport a large battery electric vehicle a be e V is not going

electric vehicle a be e V is not going

electric vehicle a be e V is not going to save the planet

to save the planet

to save the planet we need much smaller B V’s better still

we need much smaller B V’s better still

we need much smaller B V’s better still smaller than that a light electric

smaller than that a light electric

smaller than that a light electric vehicle and le v so we go from B V’s to

vehicle and le v so we go from B V’s to

vehicle and le v so we go from B V’s to LEDs and those are great for sort of one

LEDs and those are great for sort of one

LEDs and those are great for sort of one or two people but better than that

or two people but better than that

or two people but better than that still would be to get onto two wheels

still would be to get onto two wheels

still would be to get onto two wheels perhaps with an electric scooter or my

perhaps with an electric scooter or my

perhaps with an electric scooter or my favorite the electric bicycle and as an

favorite the electric bicycle and as an

favorite the electric bicycle and as an example with me here this is what we

example with me here this is what we

example with me here this is what we call a pedelec a pedal assisted electric

call a pedelec a pedal assisted electric

call a pedelec a pedal assisted electric bicycle these things use tiny amounts of

bicycle these things use tiny amounts of

bicycle these things use tiny amounts of energy they could probably be charged

energy they could probably be charged

energy they could probably be charged from the Sun directly through a little

from the Sun directly through a little

from the Sun directly through a little solar panel my gift to you this could be

solar panel my gift to you this could be

solar panel my gift to you this could be the ultimate transport option for cities

the ultimate transport option for cities

the ultimate transport option for cities it’s a bit like range-extended cycling

it’s a bit like range-extended cycling

it’s a bit like range-extended cycling in effect it’s like cheating and you

in effect it’s like cheating and you

in effect it’s like cheating and you don’t need a license to use it one of

don’t need a license to use it one of

don’t need a license to use it one of the big problems are cycling is that if

the big problems are cycling is that if

the big problems are cycling is that if you cycle up a hill it’s hard work if

you cycle up a hill it’s hard work if

you cycle up a hill it’s hard work if you’re cycling into the wind it’s hard

you’re cycling into the wind it’s hard

you’re cycling into the wind it’s hard work so you get hot and sweaty the

work so you get hot and sweaty the

work so you get hot and sweaty the beauty of this is this gets rid of the

beauty of this is this gets rid of the

beauty of this is this gets rid of the hills it’s gets rid of the wind and you

hills it’s gets rid of the wind and you

hills it’s gets rid of the wind and you don’t even need to wear lycra to drive

don’t even need to wear lycra to drive

don’t even need to wear lycra to drive it now I know the lycra things are

it now I know the lycra things are

it now I know the lycra things are personal choice some people look quite

personal choice some people look quite

personal choice some people look quite good in lycra but you know hold that

good in lycra but you know hold that

good in lycra but you know hold that thought

thought

thought so what’s the government done to

so what’s the government done to

so what’s the government done to encourage us to move around in a

encourage us to move around in a

encourage us to move around in a different more sustainable way well

different more sustainable way well

different more sustainable way well government policies and regulations are

government policies and regulations are

government policies and regulations are basically sticks and carrots the sticks

basically sticks and carrots the sticks

basically sticks and carrots the sticks are taxes and charges this very week the

are taxes and charges this very week the

are taxes and charges this very week the toxic charge was introduced into London

toxic charge was introduced into London

toxic charge was introduced into London to penalize the older more polluting

to penalize the older more polluting

to penalize the older more polluting vehicles we can reduce the amount of

vehicles we can reduce the amount of

vehicles we can reduce the amount of available parking spaces in city centres

available parking spaces in city centres

available parking spaces in city centres so people are forced to find another way

so people are forced to find another way

so people are forced to find another way of getting there and of course we can

of getting there and of course we can

of getting there and of course we can have one-way systems to redirect traffic

have one-way systems to redirect traffic

have one-way systems to redirect traffic away from the centre and what are the

away from the centre and what are the

away from the centre and what are the rewards what are the carrots well an

rewards what are the carrots well an

rewards what are the carrots well an improved public transport system if

improved public transport system if

improved public transport system if you’re going to stop people taking their

you’re going to stop people taking their

you’re going to stop people taking their own form to transport into a city you

own form to transport into a city you

own form to transport into a city you have to provide a viable option so

have to provide a viable option so

have to provide a viable option so improve public transport many cities

improve public transport many cities

improve public transport many cities have done that you can provide

have done that you can provide

have done that you can provide specialized parking spaces just real it

specialized parking spaces just real it

specialized parking spaces just real it trickles maybe even with a charging

trickles maybe even with a charging

trickles maybe even with a charging point in it and we could have proper

point in it and we could have proper

point in it and we could have proper cycle paths you know the Netherlands

cycle paths you know the Netherlands

cycle paths you know the Netherlands have spent 20 times more on cycling

have spent 20 times more on cycling

have spent 20 times more on cycling infrastructure than the UK since the

infrastructure than the UK since the

infrastructure than the UK since the 1970s no wonder people choose to cycle

1970s no wonder people choose to cycle

1970s no wonder people choose to cycle in the Netherlands it’s a very very

in the Netherlands it’s a very very

in the Netherlands it’s a very very pleasant experience so how can personal

pleasant experience so how can personal

pleasant experience so how can personal mobility be maintained in future without

mobility be maintained in future without

mobility be maintained in future without burning so much fossil fuel well we need

burning so much fossil fuel well we need

burning so much fossil fuel well we need a much greener electricity grid to make

a much greener electricity grid to make

a much greener electricity grid to make electric transport more credible we need

electric transport more credible we need

electric transport more credible we need to reduce congestion by taking more

to reduce congestion by taking more

to reduce congestion by taking more vehicles off the road and we could go to

vehicles off the road and we could go to

vehicles off the road and we could go to a system of usership rather than

a system of usership rather than

a system of usership rather than ownership and maybe in the future

ownership and maybe in the future

ownership and maybe in the future autonomous vehicles will take us around

autonomous vehicles will take us around

autonomous vehicles will take us around that will actually reduce the number of

that will actually reduce the number of

that will actually reduce the number of individual vehicles on the road I think

individual vehicles on the road I think

individual vehicles on the road I think perhaps more importantly than anything

perhaps more importantly than anything

perhaps more importantly than anything else is our behavior we’ve got to

else is our behavior we’ve got to

else is our behavior we’ve got to catalyze a change in behavior to

catalyze a change in behavior to

catalyze a change in behavior to demonstrate the advantages of doing

demonstrate the advantages of doing

demonstrate the advantages of doing things differently and to make it a fun

things differently and to make it a fun

things differently and to make it a fun now electric cars are fast and they’re

now electric cars are fast and they’re

now electric cars are fast and they’re fun but our musical stairs the way to

fun but our musical stairs the way to

fun but our musical stairs the way to make more of us think the stairs here

make more of us think the stairs here

make more of us think the stairs here play a tune when they walked on and

play a tune when they walked on and

play a tune when they walked on and that’s a kind of reward for not using

that’s a kind of reward for not using

that’s a kind of reward for not using the electrically powered escalator next

the electrically powered escalator next

the electrically powered escalator next to them so at least they make a smile

to them so at least they make a smile

to them so at least they make a smile and maybe think a little bit about the

and maybe think a little bit about the

and maybe think a little bit about the energy that we’re not using if we get

energy that we’re not using if we get

energy that we’re not using if we get the musical route so going back to the

the musical route so going back to the

the musical route so going back to the beginning of my talk how far are you

beginning of my talk how far are you

beginning of my talk how far are you going to travel in your lifetime and how

going to travel in your lifetime and how

going to travel in your lifetime and how are you going to do it without burning

are you going to do it without burning

are you going to do it without burning so much fossil fuel thank you

so much fossil fuel thank you

so much fossil fuel thank you [Applause]

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