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Being a bulwark in industry is the matter of Sales | Chander S Sibal | TEDxManipalUniversityJaipur


I go back in the memory lane 25 years

I go back in the memory lane 25 years back I was also sitting like this in

back I was also sitting like this in

back I was also sitting like this in some of the seminars in my college and I

some of the seminars in my college and I

some of the seminars in my college and I used to think that I will do a high fund

used to think that I will do a high fund

used to think that I will do a high fund a job i will go to RND NASA I will

a job i will go to RND NASA I will

a job i will go to RND NASA I will develop this thing and that thing I

develop this thing and that thing I

develop this thing and that thing I never thought of doing sales and when

never thought of doing sales and when

never thought of doing sales and when somebody used to ask me you do like to

somebody used to ask me you do like to

somebody used to ask me you do like to have a sales job I said no never in my

have a sales job I said no never in my

have a sales job I said no never in my life and today I am here to tell you

life and today I am here to tell you

life and today I am here to tell you about my sales experiences to you so

about my sales experiences to you so

about my sales experiences to you so what is fails since is understanding

what is fails since is understanding

what is fails since is understanding customer requirement and solving the

customer requirement and solving the

customer requirement and solving the problem of a customer that to profitably

problem of a customer that to profitably

problem of a customer that to profitably profitable for the customer as well as

profitable for the customer as well as

profitable for the customer as well as the company no company can survive

the company no company can survive

the company no company can survive without saints even the best of the

without saints even the best of the

without saints even the best of the product in the word if not sold cannot

product in the word if not sold cannot

product in the word if not sold cannot see the light of the day you know about

see the light of the day you know about

see the light of the day you know about Thomas Alva Edison a great inventor who

Thomas Alva Edison a great inventor who

Thomas Alva Edison a great inventor who has thousands of patents on his name but

has thousands of patents on his name but

has thousands of patents on his name but do you know he was a great marketing

do you know he was a great marketing

do you know he was a great marketing genius he started his carrier with and

genius he started his carrier with and

genius he started his carrier with and he learned from his mistakes he has made

he learned from his mistakes he has made

he learned from his mistakes he has made a vote counting machine it failed

a vote counting machine it failed

a vote counting machine it failed miserably because no legislature wanted

miserably because no legislature wanted

miserably because no legislature wanted it so what he said I won’t invest

it so what he said I won’t invest

it so what he said I won’t invest anything i will not invent anything

anything i will not invent anything

anything i will not invent anything which is not sellable anything which is

which is not sellable anything which is

which is not sellable anything which is selling is good for utility and if

selling is good for utility and if

selling is good for utility and if anything which is utility has given T

anything which is utility has given T

anything which is utility has given T will always sell so I would like to tell

will always sell so I would like to tell

will always sell so I would like to tell you certain stories how I started my

you certain stories how I started my

you certain stories how I started my career from those days now I will take

career from those days now I will take

career from those days now I will take you in 1991 when I started my job as a

you in 1991 when I started my job as a

you in 1991 when I started my job as a service engineer and a medical equipment

service engineer and a medical equipment

service engineer and a medical equipment company just 10 days after joining the

company just 10 days after joining the

company just 10 days after joining the company I was sent for a service called

company I was sent for a service called

company I was sent for a service called to a government hospital ICU in the ice

to a government hospital ICU in the ice

to a government hospital ICU in the ice cube there are monitors and a cesium

cube there are monitors and a cesium

cube there are monitors and a cesium machine ventilators so many people

machine ventilators so many people

machine ventilators so many people nurses

nurses

nurses I was a new guy just out of engineering

I was a new guy just out of engineering

I was a new guy just out of engineering and they send me to a hospital I just

and they send me to a hospital I just

and they send me to a hospital I just reach within 30 minutes so that nurse

reach within 30 minutes so that nurse

reach within 30 minutes so that nurse asked me were you here in the hospital

asked me were you here in the hospital

asked me were you here in the hospital only I said no I just came from my

only I said no I just came from my

only I said no I just came from my office okay i have seen the monitor it

office okay i have seen the monitor it

office okay i have seen the monitor it was dead so i just seen that somebody

was dead so i just seen that somebody

was dead so i just seen that somebody pulled the plug and I just tightened the

pulled the plug and I just tightened the

pulled the plug and I just tightened the connection is started working so i was

connection is started working so i was

connection is started working so i was very happy that service is a very very

very happy that service is a very very

very happy that service is a very very easy job very happy with that as the

easy job very happy with that as the

easy job very happy with that as the time passed you can get the difficult

time passed you can get the difficult

time passed you can get the difficult customers I got a very difficult

customers I got a very difficult

customers I got a very difficult customer I was posted out of Jaipur aldi

customer I was posted out of Jaipur aldi

customer I was posted out of Jaipur aldi and there was a customer who has sent us

and there was a customer who has sent us

and there was a customer who has sent us a letter a legal letter you take back

a letter a legal letter you take back

a letter a legal letter you take back your machine your machine has

your machine your machine has

your machine your machine has intermittent problems you have already

intermittent problems you have already

intermittent problems you have already changed twice this machine but this

changed twice this machine but this

changed twice this machine but this machine is not workable refund my money

machine is not workable refund my money

machine is not workable refund my money and they sent me to this customer this

and they sent me to this customer this

and they sent me to this customer this customer was in ganga nagar i went to

customer was in ganga nagar i went to

customer was in ganga nagar i went to this customer he’s a big surgeon I kept

this customer he’s a big surgeon I kept

this customer he’s a big surgeon I kept waiting since morning I was waiting for

waiting since morning I was waiting for

waiting since morning I was waiting for eight hours 10 hours I don’t know how

eight hours 10 hours I don’t know how

eight hours 10 hours I don’t know how many hours then he called me in the

many hours then he called me in the

many hours then he called me in the evening you are a young guy I don’t want

evening you are a young guy I don’t want

evening you are a young guy I don’t want to dishearten you but you are not going

to dishearten you but you are not going

to dishearten you but you are not going to correct this machine just go back

to correct this machine just go back

to correct this machine just go back accept your mistake that you can’t make

accept your mistake that you can’t make

accept your mistake that you can’t make the machines and refund my money with

the machines and refund my money with

the machines and refund my money with this much of penalty I said please allow

this much of penalty I said please allow

this much of penalty I said please allow me to see the machine I have seen the

me to see the machine I have seen the

me to see the machine I have seen the Machine and I could see that there is

Machine and I could see that there is

Machine and I could see that there is some problem again I took my screwdriver

some problem again I took my screwdriver

some problem again I took my screwdriver I connected all the loose connections

I connected all the loose connections

I connected all the loose connections machine was working he said that every

machine was working he said that every

machine was working he said that every time when engineer comes he does

time when engineer comes he does

time when engineer comes he does something machines start working after

something machines start working after

something machines start working after that you guys go I know that this

that you guys go I know that this

that you guys go I know that this machine is not going to work so i asked

machine is not going to work so i asked

machine is not going to work so i asked him ok sir i will show you the operation

him ok sir i will show you the operation

him ok sir i will show you the operation ground and you can check later on also

ground and you can check later on also

ground and you can check later on also but i just want to know how you use this

but i just want to know how you use this

but i just want to know how you use this machine he said I go to different cities

machine he said I go to different cities

machine he said I go to different cities across and I take this machine along

across and I take this machine along

across and I take this machine along with me and whenever I go there it

with me and whenever I go there it

with me and whenever I go there it doesn’t work so I said that how you are

doesn’t work so I said that how you are

doesn’t work so I said that how you are transporting this machine he said this

transporting this machine he said this

transporting this machine he said this in this suitcase and he used to carry

in this suitcase and he used to carry

in this suitcase and he used to carry that machine in a vertical format

that machine in a vertical format

that machine in a vertical format and when the jerks were there so this

and when the jerks were there so this

and when the jerks were there so this machine always has some loose connection

machine always has some loose connection

machine always has some loose connection and it will not work eventually whenever

and it will not work eventually whenever

and it will not work eventually whenever it will go to any place it will not work

it will go to any place it will not work

it will go to any place it will not work and then he will call us and fire us so

and then he will call us and fire us so

and then he will call us and fire us so now I told him sir I think that the

now I told him sir I think that the

now I told him sir I think that the method of transportation is not correct

method of transportation is not correct

method of transportation is not correct and if you just do one thing that you

and if you just do one thing that you

and if you just do one thing that you can transport it horizontally rather

can transport it horizontally rather

can transport it horizontally rather than on vertically so the connection

than on vertically so the connection

than on vertically so the connection will not get loose and hope that this

will not get loose and hope that this

will not get loose and hope that this will sort your problem and finally to my

will sort your problem and finally to my

will sort your problem and finally to my surprise that problem got sorted out so

surprise that problem got sorted out so

surprise that problem got sorted out so one should try to go a little deeper

one should try to go a little deeper

one should try to go a little deeper whenever we are trying to sort any

whenever we are trying to sort any

whenever we are trying to sort any problem that whether the problem is in

problem that whether the problem is in

problem that whether the problem is in the machine or how they are using it of

the machine or how they are using it of

the machine or how they are using it of what so basically I could see from my

what so basically I could see from my

what so basically I could see from my experience and service that 80 or fifty

experience and service that 80 or fifty

experience and service that 80 or fifty percent of the problem so more than

percent of the problem so more than

percent of the problem so more than fifty percent of the problems were loose

fifty percent of the problems were loose

fifty percent of the problems were loose connections and in life also the fifty

connections and in life also the fifty

connections and in life also the fifty percent or more than fifty percent of

percent or more than fifty percent of

percent or more than fifty percent of the problems are because of loose

the problems are because of loose

the problems are because of loose connections we don’t talk to each other

connections we don’t talk to each other

connections we don’t talk to each other so that’s also the biggest problem now

so that’s also the biggest problem now

so that’s also the biggest problem now I’ll tell you some story how I come to

I’ll tell you some story how I come to

I’ll tell you some story how I come to sales and the first sales which I did I

sales and the first sales which I did I

sales and the first sales which I did I still remember vividly my company

still remember vividly my company

still remember vividly my company transferred me to a very difficult

transferred me to a very difficult

transferred me to a very difficult location from jpod to changing her

location from jpod to changing her

location from jpod to changing her because the sales guys were not

because the sales guys were not

because the sales guys were not performing there they said okay you go

performing there they said okay you go

performing there they said okay you go there and you do everything sales

there and you do everything sales

there and you do everything sales service application whatever Under the

service application whatever Under the

service application whatever Under the Sun you have to do that I should find

Sun you have to do that I should find

Sun you have to do that I should find it’s okay with me I went there I’ll

it’s okay with me I went there I’ll

it’s okay with me I went there I’ll coming back for a first sales meeting

coming back for a first sales meeting

coming back for a first sales meeting after 56 days of joining I thought I’m

after 56 days of joining I thought I’m

after 56 days of joining I thought I’m from Pawnee parks so from chandigarh to

from Pawnee parks so from chandigarh to

from Pawnee parks so from chandigarh to Delhi when i was coming i stopped at

Delhi when i was coming i stopped at

Delhi when i was coming i stopped at Pawnee perth and in the night I thought

Pawnee perth and in the night I thought

Pawnee perth and in the night I thought of meeting a customer which was near my

of meeting a customer which was near my

of meeting a customer which was near my house I went to him i said that i have

house I went to him i said that i have

house I went to him i said that i have recently joined this company and this is

recently joined this company and this is

recently joined this company and this is my card in case you require anything let

my card in case you require anything let

my card in case you require anything let me know he said ok you were from this

me know he said ok you were from this

me know he said ok you were from this place good I want this electro surgical

place good I want this electro surgical

place good I want this electro surgical unit this monitor can you sell me these

unit this monitor can you sell me these

unit this monitor can you sell me these things I said yes sir I had the price

things I said yes sir I had the price

things I said yes sir I had the price book i opened the price book gave him

book i opened the price book gave him

book i opened the price book gave him the price these are the prices serve

the price these are the prices serve

the price these are the prices serve immediately he gave me a check of 10,000

immediately he gave me a check of 10,000

immediately he gave me a check of 10,000 rupees under order I went back to my

rupees under order I went back to my

rupees under order I went back to my meeting and I told them that I got the

meeting and I told them that I got the

meeting and I told them that I got the order they were very surprised and her

order they were very surprised and her

order they were very surprised and her p and my boss my regional manager he

p and my boss my regional manager he

p and my boss my regional manager he gave that a great job and he gave me a

gave that a great job and he gave me a

gave that a great job and he gave me a taxi and along with that the material he

taxi and along with that the material he

taxi and along with that the material he said that while going back you deliver

said that while going back you deliver

said that while going back you deliver the equipment install those equipment

the equipment install those equipment

the equipment install those equipment and take the money balance amount so the

and take the money balance amount so the

and take the money balance amount so the first sales was very easy again

first sales was very easy again

first sales was very easy again sometimes luck would happen you get very

sometimes luck would happen you get very

sometimes luck would happen you get very easily those things then I not tell you

easily those things then I not tell you

easily those things then I not tell you about certain stories which were

about certain stories which were

about certain stories which were difficult customers this is about dr.

difficult customers this is about dr.

difficult customers this is about dr. Shalini Sri she was a very tough

Shalini Sri she was a very tough

Shalini Sri she was a very tough customer in dehradun this customer

customer in dehradun this customer

customer in dehradun this customer wanted to buy a CT scanner so I propose

wanted to buy a CT scanner so I propose

wanted to buy a CT scanner so I propose her the CT scan and she was having the

her the CT scan and she was having the

her the CT scan and she was having the earlier machine which was axial CT so

earlier machine which was axial CT so

earlier machine which was axial CT so now she wanted to have a new machine so

now she wanted to have a new machine so

now she wanted to have a new machine so I proposed 16 slices scanner there are

I proposed 16 slices scanner there are

I proposed 16 slices scanner there are many slices of CT scanners as you go

many slices of CT scanners as you go

many slices of CT scanners as you go higher so I propose that machine to her

higher so I propose that machine to her

higher so I propose that machine to her and she said ok I can take a look at the

and she said ok I can take a look at the

and she said ok I can take a look at the machine she has seen the presentation

machine she has seen the presentation

machine she has seen the presentation she has seen the machine I have

she has seen the machine I have

she has seen the machine I have demonstrated everything and she has seen

demonstrated everything and she has seen

demonstrated everything and she has seen the competition machines also she was

the competition machines also she was

the competition machines also she was not happy at the price so she said no no

not happy at the price so she said no no

not happy at the price so she said no no I cannot give this much of price and we

I cannot give this much of price and we

I cannot give this much of price and we stuck on the price because whatever

stuck on the price because whatever

stuck on the price because whatever negotiation we had to do we did that

negotiation we had to do we did that

negotiation we had to do we did that negotiation but not coming to any

negotiation but not coming to any

negotiation but not coming to any confusion because of the price so I told

confusion because of the price so I told

confusion because of the price so I told her a very small story which I

her a very small story which I

her a very small story which I remembered in my class 5th I said that

remembered in my class 5th I said that

remembered in my class 5th I said that there was a shepherd he got a stone and

there was a shepherd he got a stone and

there was a shepherd he got a stone and he does not know the value of the stone

he does not know the value of the stone

he does not know the value of the stone so he put it into the thread and put it

so he put it into the thread and put it

so he put it into the thread and put it across the sheep and he was roaming

across the sheep and he was roaming

across the sheep and he was roaming around and one goldsmith he has located

around and one goldsmith he has located

around and one goldsmith he has located him he has seen this guy and he asked

him he has seen this guy and he asked

him he has seen this guy and he asked him can you sell me this stone he said

him can you sell me this stone he said

him can you sell me this stone he said yes you can take the stone no problem so

yes you can take the stone no problem so

yes you can take the stone no problem so he said what will you give me for this

he said what will you give me for this

he said what will you give me for this he said I will give you 10 rupees so the

he said I will give you 10 rupees so the

he said I will give you 10 rupees so the guy Shefford was very happy he has given

guy Shefford was very happy he has given

guy Shefford was very happy he has given 10 rupees and bought that gemstone from

10 rupees and bought that gemstone from

10 rupees and bought that gemstone from the guy now the gemstone got very angry

the guy now the gemstone got very angry

the guy now the gemstone got very angry he said that this guy was not knowing

he said that this guy was not knowing

he said that this guy was not knowing what is my value and this goldsmith

what is my value and this goldsmith

what is my value and this goldsmith knows my value and he is valuing me at

knows my value and he is valuing me at

knows my value and he is valuing me at ten rupees so the gold this gemstone

ten rupees so the gold this gemstone

ten rupees so the gold this gemstone bust into the hand of that so I talked

bust into the hand of that so I talked

bust into the hand of that so I talked to dr. that you understand the value of

to dr. that you understand the value of

to dr. that you understand the value of my machine and if i give you at the

my machine and if i give you at the

my machine and if i give you at the price

price

price of the competition this machine will

of the competition this machine will

of the competition this machine will bust because definitely does a more

bust because definitely does a more

bust because definitely does a more value so you have to value for my

value so you have to value for my

value so you have to value for my machine she understood my message and

machine she understood my message and

machine she understood my message and finally we could close at some good

finally we could close at some good

finally we could close at some good point and there are sometimes the

point and there are sometimes the

point and there are sometimes the customers where lot of confusion can be

customers where lot of confusion can be

customers where lot of confusion can be there so I tell you a story of dr. robin

there so I tell you a story of dr. robin

there so I tell you a story of dr. robin sharma here we sold one CT scanner which

sharma here we sold one CT scanner which

sharma here we sold one CT scanner which was a very high and 64 sly CT scanner

was a very high and 64 sly CT scanner

was a very high and 64 sly CT scanner and our CT scanner was one crowd higher

and our CT scanner was one crowd higher

and our CT scanner was one crowd higher as compared to the competition price we

as compared to the competition price we

as compared to the competition price we have shown him the machine we have taken

have shown him the machine we have taken

have shown him the machine we have taken the order we had the order we imported

the order we had the order we imported

the order we had the order we imported the machine also but in the end

the machine also but in the end

the machine also but in the end competition has confused him completely

competition has confused him completely

competition has confused him completely don’t take this machine the tube will go

don’t take this machine the tube will go

don’t take this machine the tube will go there will be a lot of problems and this

there will be a lot of problems and this

there will be a lot of problems and this is the first of its kind machine here so

is the first of its kind machine here so

is the first of its kind machine here so don’t buy this because this doesn’t make

don’t buy this because this doesn’t make

don’t buy this because this doesn’t make any sense and financial viability is

any sense and financial viability is

any sense and financial viability is also not there so he can sense the order

also not there so he can sense the order

also not there so he can sense the order so I was very confused hard to how to

so I was very confused hard to how to

so I was very confused hard to how to tell him that and I told him that you

tell him that and I told him that you

tell him that and I told him that you have already ordered it you cannot

have already ordered it you cannot

have already ordered it you cannot cancel but anyway he canceled the order

cancel but anyway he canceled the order

cancel but anyway he canceled the order he said I cannot take this machine now

he said I cannot take this machine now

he said I cannot take this machine now so again there was some mind so

so again there was some mind so

so again there was some mind so immediately a story came to my mind of a

immediately a story came to my mind of a

immediately a story came to my mind of a priest this priest has gone for a puja

priest this priest has gone for a puja

priest this priest has gone for a puja performing a puja in a house so he

performing a puja in a house so he

performing a puja in a house so he performed a puja after this puja he gets

performed a puja after this puja he gets

performed a puja after this puja he gets a goat from the owner of the house the

a goat from the owner of the house the

a goat from the owner of the house the goat he puts on his shoulders and trying

goat he puts on his shoulders and trying

goat he puts on his shoulders and trying to take it to the home there were three

to take it to the home there were three

to take it to the home there were three terms they have seen this guy taking

terms they have seen this guy taking

terms they have seen this guy taking this goat they wanted to take it from

this goat they wanted to take it from

this goat they wanted to take it from him and they wanted to put some trick

him and they wanted to put some trick

him and they wanted to put some trick what they did one of the tux told him

what they did one of the tux told him

what they did one of the tux told him that why are you carrying a donkey on

that why are you carrying a donkey on

that why are you carrying a donkey on your head he puts down the goat and sees

your head he puts down the goat and sees

your head he puts down the goat and sees this is a dog not a donkey then he goes

this is a dog not a donkey then he goes

this is a dog not a donkey then he goes on again one kilometer two kilometers so

on again one kilometer two kilometers so

on again one kilometer two kilometers so the next truck camps and tells why are

the next truck camps and tells why are

the next truck camps and tells why are you carrying a monkey on your head he is

you carrying a monkey on your head he is

you carrying a monkey on your head he is very confused now he again puts it down

very confused now he again puts it down

very confused now he again puts it down and sees is not a monkey and he goes

and sees is not a monkey and he goes

and sees is not a monkey and he goes again third guy tells him why are you

again third guy tells him why are you

again third guy tells him why are you carrying a cat on your head you know

carrying a cat on your head you know

carrying a cat on your head you know very confused he thinks this is a ghost

very confused he thinks this is a ghost

very confused he thinks this is a ghost he leaves that thing and he runs away he

he leaves that thing and he runs away he

he leaves that thing and he runs away he said I am NOT going to carry this

said I am NOT going to carry this

said I am NOT going to carry this because there is some problem

because there is some problem

because there is some problem somebody saying monkey Dunkey catch

somebody saying monkey Dunkey catch

somebody saying monkey Dunkey catch anything dog so he just leaves that and

anything dog so he just leaves that and

anything dog so he just leaves that and runs away so I told the doctor that

runs away so I told the doctor that

runs away so I told the doctor that whether you want to get confused by

whether you want to get confused by

whether you want to get confused by these ideas or you want to go for your

these ideas or you want to go for your

these ideas or you want to go for your conscious so he finally decided that

conscious so he finally decided that

conscious so he finally decided that definitely I will go for this machine so

definitely I will go for this machine so

definitely I will go for this machine so these are the stories which came to my

these are the stories which came to my

these are the stories which came to my mind when I am sales and there were many

mind when I am sales and there were many

mind when I am sales and there were many many times when we have failures and we

many times when we have failures and we

many times when we have failures and we have learned from our failures more than

have learned from our failures more than

have learned from our failures more than what we learn from our successes I tell

what we learn from our successes I tell

what we learn from our successes I tell you an example of this doctor dr. Mookie

you an example of this doctor dr. Mookie

you an example of this doctor dr. Mookie and he was in ruining in Delhi so this

and he was in ruining in Delhi so this

and he was in ruining in Delhi so this doctor is a very good doctor he was

doctor is a very good doctor he was

doctor is a very good doctor he was using the competition machines earlier

using the competition machines earlier

using the competition machines earlier so now he was using a competition

so now he was using a competition

so now he was using a competition machines so we thought that we should

machines so we thought that we should

machines so we thought that we should not go to him well anyway he’s already

not go to him well anyway he’s already

not go to him well anyway he’s already using he will take for his new center he

using he will take for his new center he

using he will take for his new center he will take the similar machines but I

will take the similar machines but I

will take the similar machines but I thought let me have a friendship with

thought let me have a friendship with

thought let me have a friendship with him we will go will present so as the

him we will go will present so as the

him we will go will present so as the talks were progressing we were talking

talks were progressing we were talking

talks were progressing we were talking to him we’re meeting him again and again

to him we’re meeting him again and again

to him we’re meeting him again and again we’ve demonstrated our machines he liked

we’ve demonstrated our machines he liked

we’ve demonstrated our machines he liked our machines he liked our prize

our machines he liked our prize

our machines he liked our prize everything but in the end he said that

everything but in the end he said that

everything but in the end he said that my relationship with other company is

my relationship with other company is

my relationship with other company is very strong so sorry i cannot buy your

very strong so sorry i cannot buy your

very strong so sorry i cannot buy your machines I said fine sir it’s your

machines I said fine sir it’s your

machines I said fine sir it’s your decision it’s okay sometimes it happens

decision it’s okay sometimes it happens

decision it’s okay sometimes it happens and sometimes you lose sometimes you win

and sometimes you lose sometimes you win

and sometimes you lose sometimes you win it’s life no problem who I went back

it’s life no problem who I went back

it’s life no problem who I went back though he felt a little bad that you

though he felt a little bad that you

though he felt a little bad that you have done a lot of hard work but still

have done a lot of hard work but still

have done a lot of hard work but still you lose so some days 15-20 days back

you lose so some days 15-20 days back

you lose so some days 15-20 days back right he called me he said that I want

right he called me he said that I want

right he called me he said that I want to give you a lead one of the guys

to give you a lead one of the guys

to give you a lead one of the guys nearby who is it opening a charitable

nearby who is it opening a charitable

nearby who is it opening a charitable Hospital he wants to buy a CT scanner

Hospital he wants to buy a CT scanner

Hospital he wants to buy a CT scanner why don’t you go and meet him and one

why don’t you go and meet him and one

why don’t you go and meet him and one thing I want to tell you about that guy

thing I want to tell you about that guy

thing I want to tell you about that guy he decides very fast so give the price

he decides very fast so give the price

he decides very fast so give the price very fast and give the configuration you

very fast and give the configuration you

very fast and give the configuration you want to finalize and within one or two

want to finalize and within one or two

want to finalize and within one or two days he will finalize so this

days he will finalize so this

days he will finalize so this information was in my head so I went to

information was in my head so I went to

information was in my head so I went to him without even knowing about

him without even knowing about

him without even knowing about competition could know about it I closed

competition could know about it I closed

competition could know about it I closed the order and done everything so why the

the order and done everything so why the

the order and done everything so why the time competition could come into some

time competition could come into some

time competition could come into some kind of action the things were done and

kind of action the things were done and

kind of action the things were done and he has helped me a lot so even if you

he has helped me a lot so even if you

he has helped me a lot so even if you lose or you win don’t lose your heart

lose or you win don’t lose your heart

lose or you win don’t lose your heart because if you have done your work

because if you have done your work

because if you have done your work properly that guy is going to help you

properly that guy is going to help you

properly that guy is going to help you in some way or the

in some way or the

in some way or the this is what my learning from this story

this is what my learning from this story

this is what my learning from this story was and there are many other stories

was and there are many other stories

was and there are many other stories which are the stories will be lost the

which are the stories will be lost the

which are the stories will be lost the second story i will tell you about the

second story i will tell you about the

second story i will tell you about the biology action hospital this was also a

biology action hospital this was also a

biology action hospital this was also a competition account and i thought of

competition account and i thought of

competition account and i thought of fighting it out so I used to tell my

fighting it out so I used to tell my

fighting it out so I used to tell my team and myself both that it’s like a

team and myself both that it’s like a

team and myself both that it’s like a gita gurgaon you have to do your work

gita gurgaon you have to do your work

gita gurgaon you have to do your work and forget about the result because

and forget about the result because

and forget about the result because result will anyway come it is your

result will anyway come it is your

result will anyway come it is your Karma’s so don’t worry about the butt

Karma’s so don’t worry about the butt

Karma’s so don’t worry about the butt hole of the management and the team used

hole of the management and the team used

hole of the management and the team used to discourage us that you don’t have

to discourage us that you don’t have

to discourage us that you don’t have anything else to follow why you were

anything else to follow why you were

anything else to follow why you were following these guys so regular

following these guys so regular

following these guys so regular rigorously you’re wasting your time and

rigorously you’re wasting your time and

rigorously you’re wasting your time and my CEO was also troubled by this because

my CEO was also troubled by this because

my CEO was also troubled by this because he has to visit many times to this

he has to visit many times to this

he has to visit many times to this account so every quarter i used to say

account so every quarter i used to say

account so every quarter i used to say that this order will come in q1 we have

that this order will come in q1 we have

that this order will come in q1 we have a quarterly targets so i used to say

a quarterly targets so i used to say

a quarterly targets so i used to say this this quarter this will come it

this this quarter this will come it

this this quarter this will come it never came in q1 then quarter to quarter

never came in q1 then quarter to quarter

never came in q1 then quarter to quarter 3 gone quarter for gone next year

3 gone quarter for gone next year

3 gone quarter for gone next year started quarter one gone two gone three

started quarter one gone two gone three

started quarter one gone two gone three gone so my CEO got very angry he said

gone so my CEO got very angry he said

gone so my CEO got very angry he said shake her you are wasting your time as

shake her you are wasting your time as

shake her you are wasting your time as well as mine time I think you are being

well as mine time I think you are being

well as mine time I think you are being used by this customer and you are just

used by this customer and you are just

used by this customer and you are just wasting your time and my time again and

wasting your time and my time again and

wasting your time and my time again and again and don’t talk to my about this

again and don’t talk to my about this

again and don’t talk to my about this customer take it out of your prospect

customer take it out of your prospect

customer take it out of your prospect list immediately take it out I said okay

list immediately take it out I said okay

list immediately take it out I said okay I was also very much disheartened

I was also very much disheartened

I was also very much disheartened because i made the 5200 times i made

because i made the 5200 times i made

because i made the 5200 times i made this customer at least 100 times and I

this customer at least 100 times and I

this customer at least 100 times and I was also liked very much and happy now

was also liked very much and happy now

was also liked very much and happy now that even my management is not happy and

that even my management is not happy and

that even my management is not happy and here the customer is not giving the

here the customer is not giving the

here the customer is not giving the order so I so into this thing that now

order so I so into this thing that now

order so I so into this thing that now what to do at this point in time nothing

what to do at this point in time nothing

what to do at this point in time nothing was coming to my mind so I just drove

was coming to my mind so I just drove

was coming to my mind so I just drove down to the md and the chairman of the

down to the md and the chairman of the

down to the md and the chairman of the hospital who is a big businessman he is

hospital who is a big businessman he is

hospital who is a big businessman he is having more than thousand two thousand

having more than thousand two thousand

having more than thousand two thousand crowed business and this guy is very big

crowed business and this guy is very big

crowed business and this guy is very big guy so I went to him and I asked him

guy so I went to him and I asked him

guy so I went to him and I asked him very politely sir are you serious about

very politely sir are you serious about

very politely sir are you serious about us or you are just using me I told him

us or you are just using me I told him

us or you are just using me I told him the same vs or you’re using me to get a

the same vs or you’re using me to get a

the same vs or you’re using me to get a better price from the other comes

better price from the other comes

better price from the other comes company he got too annoyed with me he

company he got too annoyed with me he

company he got too annoyed with me he said how can you ask me this question

said how can you ask me this question

said how can you ask me this question I said no no sir just because like we

I said no no sir just because like we

I said no no sir just because like we were following you up you’re doing so

were following you up you’re doing so

were following you up you’re doing so much things whatever you asking we are

much things whatever you asking we are

much things whatever you asking we are doing you are asking about the payment

doing you are asking about the payment

doing you are asking about the payment terms you are asking about the products

terms you are asking about the products

terms you are asking about the products you are asking about demonstrations

you are asking about demonstrations

you are asking about demonstrations everything we did but we are not getting

everything we did but we are not getting

everything we did but we are not getting it we got too angry he has written a

it we got too angry he has written a

it we got too angry he has written a mail to my boss that mr. Sibal has

mail to my boss that mr. Sibal has

mail to my boss that mr. Sibal has insulted me by asking this question that

insulted me by asking this question that

insulted me by asking this question that whether i am using him it’s a very big

whether i am using him it’s a very big

whether i am using him it’s a very big statement he has given it’s a very

statement he has given it’s a very

statement he has given it’s a very loaded statement he has given very

loaded statement he has given very

loaded statement he has given very unhappy with me so i also thought that

unhappy with me so i also thought that

unhappy with me so i also thought that now order has gone or something like

now order has gone or something like

now order has gone or something like that then he called me that i want to

that then he called me that i want to

that then he called me that i want to visit your head office with you and i

visit your head office with you and i

visit your head office with you and i want to finalize you come prepared with

want to finalize you come prepared with

want to finalize you come prepared with all your data and everything whatever

all your data and everything whatever

all your data and everything whatever you want to keep and i will decide for

you want to keep and i will decide for

you want to keep and i will decide for the best machine whichever is the best

the best machine whichever is the best

the best machine whichever is the best machine which is the best combination i

machine which is the best combination i

machine which is the best combination i will decide for that I said okay we got

will decide for that I said okay we got

will decide for that I said okay we got the tickets done everything for five

the tickets done everything for five

the tickets done everything for five guys we flown to Bangalore our head

guys we flown to Bangalore our head

guys we flown to Bangalore our head office was at bangalore with my boss my

office was at bangalore with my boss my

office was at bangalore with my boss my CEO and he was still in the mode that

CEO and he was still in the mode that

CEO and he was still in the mode that they will not place the order with you

they will not place the order with you

they will not place the order with you don’t worry that they’re just taking you

don’t worry that they’re just taking you

don’t worry that they’re just taking you for a ride I said finds her let us see

for a ride I said finds her let us see

for a ride I said finds her let us see so I took them layer and finally the

so I took them layer and finally the

so I took them layer and finally the luck would have it they place the order

luck would have it they place the order

luck would have it they place the order with us and we supplied the machines

with us and we supplied the machines

with us and we supplied the machines finally we supplied the machines and he

finally we supplied the machines and he

finally we supplied the machines and he has then sent me a message that I was

has then sent me a message that I was

has then sent me a message that I was not using you so this was a result of

not using you so this was a result of

not using you so this was a result of our presence that we were after him

our presence that we were after him

our presence that we were after him whatever management thought whatever

whatever management thought whatever

whatever management thought whatever everybody is thought but we were having

everybody is thought but we were having

everybody is thought but we were having a faith in a sense that yes we are going

a faith in a sense that yes we are going

a faith in a sense that yes we are going to win so there can be lot of things

to win so there can be lot of things

to win so there can be lot of things which can happen things can go negative

which can happen things can go negative

which can happen things can go negative but don’t have a never said you should

but don’t have a never said you should

but don’t have a never said you should have an attitude of never say die so

have an attitude of never say die so

have an attitude of never say die so that kind of attitude is sales is very

that kind of attitude is sales is very

that kind of attitude is sales is very very important and I say that in life

very important and I say that in life

very important and I say that in life also it is very very important so there

also it is very very important so there

also it is very very important so there are many other stories like that recent

are many other stories like that recent

are many other stories like that recent example is the max deal where we lost

example is the max deal where we lost

example is the max deal where we lost that deal it was a pax order is a very

that deal it was a pax order is a very

that deal it was a pax order is a very big order what we did is this there was

big order what we did is this there was

big order what we did is this there was a pax order we have to demonstrate our

a pax order we have to demonstrate our

a pax order we have to demonstrate our packs to the management and we goofed up

packs to the management and we goofed up

packs to the management and we goofed up hours people hooked up along with me and

hours people hooked up along with me and

hours people hooked up along with me and the we could not demonstrate on the d

the we could not demonstrate on the d

the we could not demonstrate on the d day that we have the demonstration of

day that we have the demonstration of

day that we have the demonstration of all the companies were there we could

all the companies were there we could

all the companies were there we could not demonstrate the product properly so

not demonstrate the product properly so

not demonstrate the product properly so they said you are not in the picture

they said you are not in the picture

they said you are not in the picture okay so we are not consider

okay so we are not consider

okay so we are not consider and the company which was having earlier

and the company which was having earlier

and the company which was having earlier packs installation they have considered

packs installation they have considered

packs installation they have considered that company and an Indian company they

that company and an Indian company they

that company and an Indian company they have considered so I but okay I said

have considered so I but okay I said

have considered so I but okay I said okay quick no problem I told my sales

okay quick no problem I told my sales

okay quick no problem I told my sales team please keep on going and meeting

team please keep on going and meeting

team please keep on going and meeting them again and again so the captain

them again and again so the captain

them again and again so the captain meeting again the head of department

meeting again the head of department

meeting again the head of department changed so new head of department

changed so new head of department

changed so new head of department thought that you should have a new demo

thought that you should have a new demo

thought that you should have a new demo so he has taken a demo and again he has

so he has taken a demo and again he has

so he has taken a demo and again he has put us in so we were inside the race

put us in so we were inside the race

put us in so we were inside the race again we were also there we were very

again we were also there we were very

again we were also there we were very happy that we are actually at least we

happy that we are actually at least we

happy that we are actually at least we are inside then we had made a very

are inside then we had made a very

are inside then we had made a very unique solution for the customer which

unique solution for the customer which

unique solution for the customer which is a pay-per-use basis solution where

is a pay-per-use basis solution where

is a pay-per-use basis solution where they did not have to invest anything so

they did not have to invest anything so

they did not have to invest anything so we have made that solution for them it

we have made that solution for them it

we have made that solution for them it was wonderfully done and the agreement

was wonderfully done and the agreement

was wonderfully done and the agreement was to be signed between us and them

was to be signed between us and them

was to be signed between us and them final agreement was where they have

final agreement was where they have

final agreement was where they have sentenced the draft of the agreement

sentenced the draft of the agreement

sentenced the draft of the agreement there were certain terms and conditions

there were certain terms and conditions

there were certain terms and conditions which we could not take we could not

which we could not take we could not

which we could not take we could not assign those conditions because of

assign those conditions because of

assign those conditions because of various reasons penalty clauses and all

various reasons penalty clauses and all

various reasons penalty clauses and all so we said that we want these changes so

so we said that we want these changes so

so we said that we want these changes so I was thinking that somehow we will

I was thinking that somehow we will

I was thinking that somehow we will agree on certain things they will agree

agree on certain things they will agree

agree on certain things they will agree on certain things so balance will happen

on certain things so balance will happen

on certain things so balance will happen and finally we will come to an agreement

and finally we will come to an agreement

and finally we will come to an agreement but luck would have it our service

but luck would have it our service

but luck would have it our service manager he left the job our pack sales

manager he left the job our pack sales

manager he left the job our pack sales head he left the job and they are CIU

head he left the job and they are CIU

head he left the job and they are CIU the chief information officer also left

the chief information officer also left

the chief information officer also left the job so the new guys came in from our

the job so the new guys came in from our

the job so the new guys came in from our side as well as their side and there was

side as well as their side and there was

side as well as their side and there was a lot of confusion that we could not

a lot of confusion that we could not

a lot of confusion that we could not understand what he was saying because we

understand what he was saying because we

understand what he was saying because we were thinking that order is in our hands

were thinking that order is in our hands

were thinking that order is in our hands because we had an agreement to sign and

because we had an agreement to sign and

because we had an agreement to sign and he wanted something else our guys wanted

he wanted something else our guys wanted

he wanted something else our guys wanted something else so in between we fought

something else so in between we fought

something else so in between we fought with each other and we parted and the

with each other and we parted and the

with each other and we parted and the order has gone to other company finally

order has gone to other company finally

order has gone to other company finally so we lost this order and that too we

so we lost this order and that too we

so we lost this order and that too we were fighting for more than two years

were fighting for more than two years

were fighting for more than two years two to three years we were in out in out

two to three years we were in out in out

two to three years we were in out in out and then finally we were out so we were

and then finally we were out so we were

and then finally we were out so we were very happy that we are out luck would

very happy that we are out luck would

very happy that we are out luck would have it after 3-4 months they have

have it after 3-4 months they have

have it after 3-4 months they have called us for another big order of

called us for another big order of

called us for another big order of digitalization for all their 12 hospital

digitalization for all their 12 hospital

digitalization for all their 12 hospital max hospitals they said that okay we

max hospitals they said that okay we

max hospitals they said that okay we could not give you that order at that

could not give you that order at that

could not give you that order at that point in time but the new order is there

point in time but the new order is there

point in time but the new order is there for you for

for you for

for you for the for imager for crs and for this so

the for imager for crs and for this so

the for imager for crs and for this so hopefully this time you will not do any

hopefully this time you will not do any

hopefully this time you will not do any goof up and our misunderstanding will

goof up and our misunderstanding will

goof up and our misunderstanding will not be there so we also accepted their

not be there so we also accepted their

not be there so we also accepted their order and we installed so I would like

order and we installed so I would like

order and we installed so I would like to tell you that life is full of ups and

to tell you that life is full of ups and

to tell you that life is full of ups and downs and the sales is also like a life

downs and the sales is also like a life

downs and the sales is also like a life and we don’t have to get disheartened

and we don’t have to get disheartened

and we don’t have to get disheartened never-say-die attitude is the most

never-say-die attitude is the most

never-say-die attitude is the most important attitude number one passion

important attitude number one passion

important attitude number one passion for your job this is also a very very

for your job this is also a very very

for your job this is also a very very important thing whether you win loose

important thing whether you win loose

important thing whether you win loose does not matter honesty and the hard

does not matter honesty and the hard

does not matter honesty and the hard work these pays in the last anyone who

work these pays in the last anyone who

work these pays in the last anyone who is honest and hardworking people see

is honest and hardworking people see

is honest and hardworking people see that you have worked very hard they

that you have worked very hard they

that you have worked very hard they cannot give you that order or that time

cannot give you that order or that time

cannot give you that order or that time you will not win it is ok but definitely

you will not win it is ok but definitely

you will not win it is ok but definitely the result will come in some other form

the result will come in some other form

the result will come in some other form or they will help you so never lose

or they will help you so never lose

or they will help you so never lose heart and be positive about everything

heart and be positive about everything

heart and be positive about everything thank you very much thanks

thank you very much thanks

thank you very much thanks [Applause]

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