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at night I see qualified didn’t set the

at night I see qualified didn’t set the meter up just for this event so much to

meter up just for this event so much to

meter up just for this event so much to the pure 40 cents if you can start by

the pure 40 cents if you can start by

the pure 40 cents if you can start by telling a little bit about me of my

telling a little bit about me of my

telling a little bit about me of my relationship with rugby I find rugby at

relationship with rugby I find rugby at

relationship with rugby I find rugby at the age of 13 and there’s a slightly

the age of 13 and there’s a slightly

the age of 13 and there’s a slightly problematic child at school the sounds a

problematic child at school the sounds a

problematic child at school the sounds a little bit mischievous would be probably

little bit mischievous would be probably

little bit mischievous would be probably an understatement

an understatement

an understatement but fortunately I have a wonderful wife

but fortunately I have a wonderful wife

but fortunately I have a wonderful wife speedy teacher decided one day that my

speedy teacher decided one day that my

speedy teacher decided one day that my mysterious behavior was suddenly turning

mysterious behavior was suddenly turning

mysterious behavior was suddenly turning to a rugby game and I would become the

to a rugby game and I would become the

to a rugby game and I would become the school captain but over the next five

school captain but over the next five

school captain but over the next five years and while she was very successful

years and while she was very successful

years and while she was very successful I managed to capture a number of

I managed to capture a number of

I managed to capture a number of different teams

different teams

different teams I did my coaching qualifications being

I did my coaching qualifications being

I did my coaching qualifications being the youngest coach in the country to

the youngest coach in the country to

the youngest coach in the country to qualify and I had landed a job the age

qualify and I had landed a job the age

qualify and I had landed a job the age of 19 with Rugby Football Union in the

of 19 with Rugby Football Union in the

of 19 with Rugby Football Union in the department probably the youngest person

department probably the youngest person

department probably the youngest person there

there

there sorry so I’d love directly there weren’t

sorry so I’d love directly there weren’t

sorry so I’d love directly there weren’t many weeks where I didn’t spend at least

many weeks where I didn’t spend at least

many weeks where I didn’t spend at least three days in some form of rookie

three days in some form of rookie

three days in some form of rookie activity but over the next five years in

activity but over the next five years in

activity but over the next five years in the past five years of my life I’ve

the past five years of my life I’ve

the past five years of my life I’ve become a sociology and I’ve looked at

become a sociology and I’ve looked at

become a sociology and I’ve looked at the problems of sports and over that

the problems of sports and over that

the problems of sports and over that time I’m seeing all these different

time I’m seeing all these different

time I’m seeing all these different issues and my interest primarily come

issues and my interest primarily come

issues and my interest primarily come from being an openly gay man and reading

from being an openly gay man and reading

from being an openly gay man and reading lots of academic literature saying that

lots of academic literature saying that

lots of academic literature saying that I should find it as a hostile and

I should find it as a hostile and

I should find it as a hostile and homophobic environment must be beaten

homophobic environment must be beaten

homophobic environment must be beaten and bullied and issued terrible and that

and bullied and issued terrible and that

and bullied and issued terrible and that wasn’t my experience in fact it was very

wasn’t my experience in fact it was very

wasn’t my experience in fact it was very positive I was open against my teammates

positive I was open against my teammates

positive I was open against my teammates I was open together but we thought were

I was open together but we thought were

I was open together but we thought were you in a hyper macho sport and I had no

you in a hyper macho sport and I had no

you in a hyper macho sport and I had no problems but I did find a problem and it

problems but I did find a problem and it

problems but I did find a problem and it was in Germany concussion in rugby and

was in Germany concussion in rugby and

was in Germany concussion in rugby and being a member of the England rugby

being a member of the England rugby

being a member of the England rugby football schools Union I was in a unique

football schools Union I was in a unique

football schools Union I was in a unique position seeing this as an issue so

position seeing this as an issue so

position seeing this as an issue so rugby in schools at present we find that

rugby in schools at present we find that

rugby in schools at present we find that it’s currently played by about 77

it’s currently played by about 77

it’s currently played by about 77 percent of schools for boys but only 44

percent of schools for boys but only 44

percent of schools for boys but only 44 percent 46 percent for girls

percent 46 percent for girls

percent 46 percent for girls so we’ve got this difference from white

so we’ve got this difference from white

so we’ve got this difference from white but more concerning for me quite

but more concerning for me quite

but more concerning for me quite alarming in fact we find that 83% CIL’s

alarming in fact we find that 83% CIL’s

alarming in fact we find that 83% CIL’s made rugby compulsively footballs they

made rugby compulsively footballs they

made rugby compulsively footballs they have no choice they

have no choice they

have no choice they and even more worried is that 11% the

and even more worried is that 11% the

and even more worried is that 11% the school if a parent says I don’t want my

school if a parent says I don’t want my

school if a parent says I don’t want my child to play contact with me will take

child to play contact with me will take

child to play contact with me will take disciplinary action and that increases

disciplinary action and that increases

disciplinary action and that increases 21% for the charge so we can see we’ve

21% for the charge so we can see we’ve

21% for the charge so we can see we’ve got the situation where a large number

got the situation where a large number

got the situation where a large number of schools a plain contact berkley if

of schools a plain contact berkley if

of schools a plain contact berkley if they decide that they want to opt out of

they decide that they want to opt out of

they decide that they want to opt out of this for lots of stores will take

this for lots of stores will take

this for lots of stores will take disciplinary action because they and

disciplinary action because they and

disciplinary action because they and this really worried me the most people

this really worried me the most people

this really worried me the most people say well why rugby why are you picking

say well why rugby why are you picking

say well why rugby why are you picking on rugby what’s your problem with rugby

on rugby what’s your problem with rugby

on rugby what’s your problem with rugby well personally I love I thought was

well personally I love I thought was

well personally I love I thought was regretful but we asked heads of PE

regretful but we asked heads of PE

regretful but we asked heads of PE because they’re the best people in in

because they’re the best people in in

because they’re the best people in in the field to understand the risks of

the field to understand the risks of

the field to understand the risks of sports and these are their top risks

sports and these are their top risks

sports and these are their top risks sports that they deliver in schools

sports that they deliver in schools

sports that they deliver in schools across England from south of 300

across England from south of 300

across England from south of 300 secondary schools which is about 10

secondary schools which is about 10

secondary schools which is about 10 percent of the national population

percent of the national population

percent of the national population bottom we have skier in athletics

bottom we have skier in athletics

bottom we have skier in athletics gymnastics basketball netball and hockey

gymnastics basketball netball and hockey

gymnastics basketball netball and hockey all below 10% so very few small say this

all below 10% so very few small say this

all below 10% so very few small say this is their highest risk activity football

is their highest risk activity football

is their highest risk activity football comes in at 17 with the same something

comes in at 17 with the same something

comes in at 17 with the same something it’s the highest risk activity

it’s the highest risk activity

it’s the highest risk activity trampoline means 30% and that doesn’t

trampoline means 30% and that doesn’t

trampoline means 30% and that doesn’t surprise many when our trainers a PE

surprise many when our trainers a PE

surprise many when our trainers a PE teacher I have to go on a special

teacher I have to go on a special

teacher I have to go on a special qualification learning how to put

qualification learning how to put

qualification learning how to put trampolines up and down because of the

trampolines up and down because of the

trampolines up and down because of the risks that are associated for that but

risks that are associated for that but

risks that are associated for that but what really stood out to me is sixty

what really stood out to me is sixty

what really stood out to me is sixty percent of schools recognized brophy as

percent of schools recognized brophy as

percent of schools recognized brophy as their highest risk activity that they

their highest risk activity that they

their highest risk activity that they deliver but the difference between

deliver but the difference between

deliver but the difference between trampoline indirectly is the

trampoline indirectly is the

trampoline indirectly is the qualifications so to teach companying

qualifications so to teach companying

qualifications so to teach companying and half of your qualification you have

and half of your qualification you have

and half of your qualification you have to read out every three years and that’s

to read out every three years and that’s

to read out every three years and that’s compulsory no install run is showing the

compulsory no install run is showing the

compulsory no install run is showing the depth but to deliver rugby you have to

depth but to deliver rugby you have to

depth but to deliver rugby you have to have nothing nothing at school you can

have nothing nothing at school you can

have nothing nothing at school you can never watch the sport and then suddenly

never watch the sport and then suddenly

never watch the sport and then suddenly becoming into a PE lesson as a teacher

becoming into a PE lesson as a teacher

becoming into a PE lesson as a teacher and told you’re going to deliver contact

and told you’re going to deliver contact

and told you’re going to deliver contact absolutely find by there are no replies

absolutely find by there are no replies

absolutely find by there are no replies but of course requirements and things

but of course requirements and things

but of course requirements and things sometimes that might not be reality so

sometimes that might not be reality so

sometimes that might not be reality so we wanted to know what the reality was

we wanted to know what the reality was

we wanted to know what the reality was so we we did a survey of schools in

so we we did a survey of schools in

so we we did a survey of schools in Oxfordshire what qualifications the

Oxfordshire what qualifications the

Oxfordshire what qualifications the teachers have and we found that 38% of

teachers have and we found that 38% of

teachers have and we found that 38% of coaching qualification so 3/5 have no

coaching qualification so 3/5 have no

coaching qualification so 3/5 have no qualification this could be historic as

qualification this could be historic as

qualification this could be historic as well

well

well this isn’t last three years the last

this isn’t last three years the last

this isn’t last three years the last five years it’s gonna be 25 years ago

five years it’s gonna be 25 years ago

five years it’s gonna be 25 years ago the game has changed considerably since

the game has changed considerably since

the game has changed considerably since then for renovating at slightly lower

then for renovating at slightly lower

then for renovating at slightly lower around 26% and then the next two that

around 26% and then the next two that

around 26% and then the next two that were talked about is the head coach

were talked about is the head coach

were talked about is the head coach training and this is concussion

training and this is concussion

training and this is concussion concussions a big problem that we are

concussions a big problem that we are

concussions a big problem that we are starting to recognize and small and

starting to recognize and small and

starting to recognize and small and hopefully willing practice with a mentor

hopefully willing practice with a mentor

hopefully willing practice with a mentor are things as well we’ve said a big jump

are things as well we’ve said a big jump

are things as well we’ve said a big jump in the number of people don’t concussion

in the number of people don’t concussion

in the number of people don’t concussion training but it’s still very low and

training but it’s still very low and

training but it’s still very low and it’s increased more in the state school

it’s increased more in the state school

it’s increased more in the state school sector than in the independent school

sector than in the independent school

sector than in the independent school sector but it’s still not good enough

sector but it’s still not good enough

sector but it’s still not good enough so why is the risk of rugby you might

so why is the risk of rugby you might

so why is the risk of rugby you might say well great but what’s the problem

say well great but what’s the problem

say well great but what’s the problem the rise of study of schools work week

the rise of study of schools work week

the rise of study of schools work week in Northern Ireland which is the most

in Northern Ireland which is the most

in Northern Ireland which is the most recent injury monitoring study in this

recent injury monitoring study in this

recent injury monitoring study in this war find over a season an 825 players

war find over a season an 825 players

war find over a season an 825 players there were 426 injuries which 38%

there were 426 injuries which 38%

there were 426 injuries which 38% received at the least one injury of the

received at the least one injury of the

received at the least one injury of the season

season

season so these could be anything these two big

so these could be anything these two big

so these could be anything these two big bumps and bruises but what we found was

bumps and bruises but what we found was

bumps and bruises but what we found was 63% of these are in the tackle and 49%

63% of these are in the tackle and 49%

63% of these are in the tackle and 49% of injuries will climb over 28 days

of injuries will climb over 28 days

of injuries will climb over 28 days awakens water so most of these injuries

awakens water so most of these injuries

awakens water so most of these injuries aren’t bumps or bruises these are severe

aren’t bumps or bruises these are severe

aren’t bumps or bruises these are severe problems this week on telling I’ve had

problems this week on telling I’ve had

problems this week on telling I’ve had lots of debate of people and they’re

lots of debate of people and they’re

lots of debate of people and they’re saying but we removed tackling we’re

saying but we removed tackling we’re

saying but we removed tackling we’re just contributing to the obesity problem

just contributing to the obesity problem

just contributing to the obesity problem but surely 49 percent of young people

but surely 49 percent of young people

but surely 49 percent of young people are at was for 28 or most days that’s

are at was for 28 or most days that’s

are at was for 28 or most days that’s contributing to physical activity and

contributing to physical activity and

contributing to physical activity and then 10%

then 10%

then 10% anyone working passions in America needs

anyone working passions in America needs

anyone working passions in America needs to call it Mars traumatic brain injury

to call it Mars traumatic brain injury

to call it Mars traumatic brain injury for a reason

for a reason

for a reason now it rugby’s again for shapes and

now it rugby’s again for shapes and

now it rugby’s again for shapes and sizes are not the smallest guy in the

sizes are not the smallest guy in the

sizes are not the smallest guy in the world and lots of sports on college

world and lots of sports on college

world and lots of sports on college stroke but we also found that it was the

stroke but we also found that it was the

stroke but we also found that it was the larger gentleman that plays his primary

larger gentleman that plays his primary

larger gentleman that plays his primary ones that were at the greatest risk so

ones that were at the greatest risk so

ones that were at the greatest risk so in terms of concussion we can see rugby

in terms of concussion we can see rugby

in terms of concussion we can see rugby has an eight fold over American football

has an eight fold over American football

has an eight fold over American football I’m sure lots of us have sinned issues

I’m sure lots of us have sinned issues

I’m sure lots of us have sinned issues that around American football from the

that around American football from the

that around American football from the United States many of you may have watch

United States many of you may have watch

United States many of you may have watch the the concussion thermal world snip

the the concussion thermal world snip

the the concussion thermal world snip recently as well and then of course says

recently as well and then of course says

recently as well and then of course says the tragic story of Benjamin Robinson

the tragic story of Benjamin Robinson

the tragic story of Benjamin Robinson Benjamin was a fourteen-year-old

Benjamin was a fourteen-year-old

Benjamin was a fourteen-year-old schoolboy in Northern Ireland who died

schoolboy in Northern Ireland who died

schoolboy in Northern Ireland who died whilst playing that bit from a condition

whilst playing that bit from a condition

whilst playing that bit from a condition called second impact syndrome I’ve asked

called second impact syndrome I’ve asked

called second impact syndrome I’ve asked that you all go and read that press ask

that you all go and read that press ask

that you all go and read that press ask was around it especially with his mother

was around it especially with his mother

was around it especially with his mother Karen she watched her son live role in

Karen she watched her son live role in

Karen she watched her son live role in the back of his head on the ground after

the back of his head on the ground after

the back of his head on the ground after she tried number of times to get off the

she tried number of times to get off the

she tried number of times to get off the pitch in fact the referee called her a

pitch in fact the referee called her a

pitch in fact the referee called her a prima donna so what other things are

prima donna so what other things are

prima donna so what other things are caused by this and of course concussions

caused by this and of course concussions

caused by this and of course concussions a big problem and what are the outcomes

a big problem and what are the outcomes

a big problem and what are the outcomes of that we can see post-concussive

of that we can see post-concussive

of that we can see post-concussive syndrome which is concussive syndrome

syndrome which is concussive syndrome

syndrome which is concussive syndrome it’s the symptoms prolonged over a long

it’s the symptoms prolonged over a long

it’s the symptoms prolonged over a long time there’s chronic toxic

time there’s chronic toxic

time there’s chronic toxic encephalopathy which has been the regime

encephalopathy which has been the regime

encephalopathy which has been the regime that’s received lots of attention

that’s received lots of attention

that’s received lots of attention recently which is a neurodegenerative

recently which is a neurodegenerative

recently which is a neurodegenerative disease but we can also see there’s an

disease but we can also see there’s an

disease but we can also see there’s an increased chance of welfare payments

increased chance of welfare payments

increased chance of welfare payments dementia outsider’s disability pensions

dementia outsider’s disability pensions

dementia outsider’s disability pensions there’s lower education achievement

there’s lower education achievement

there’s lower education achievement there psychiatric inpatient admissions

there psychiatric inpatient admissions

there psychiatric inpatient admissions are increased as a result of one

are increased as a result of one

are increased as a result of one concussion under the age of 26 years and

concussion under the age of 26 years and

concussion under the age of 26 years and then of course

then of course

then of course dying younger in fact this week there

dying younger in fact this week there

dying younger in fact this week there was never serious about repairs on a

was never serious about repairs on a

was never serious about repairs on a whole host of health problems they were

whole host of health problems they were

whole host of health problems they were worse off than the general

worse off than the general

worse off than the general population will burn me the exception of

population will burn me the exception of

population will burn me the exception of diabetes so what has been the message

diabetes so what has been the message

diabetes so what has been the message that we’ve been here and of course we’ve

that we’ve been here and of course we’ve

that we’ve been here and of course we’ve been we’ve been fighting this battle

been we’ve been fighting this battle

been we’ve been fighting this battle tackling in these schools won’t be

tackling in these schools won’t be

tackling in these schools won’t be coming for 18 months now and what we

coming for 18 months now and what we

coming for 18 months now and what we hear is people trying to confuse the

hear is people trying to confuse the

hear is people trying to confuse the message conceal things conflate the

message conceal things conflate the

message conceal things conflate the message delay distract and deflect and

message delay distract and deflect and

message delay distract and deflect and this is what they say to us they’re

this is what they say to us they’re

this is what they say to us they’re pulling for a battle drug bill while no

pulling for a battle drug bill while no

pulling for a battle drug bill while no we’re not we’re calling on about

we’re not we’re calling on about

we’re not we’re calling on about tackling in schools PA they’re not

tackling in schools PA they’re not

tackling in schools PA they’re not reporting the research the Rugby

reporting the research the Rugby

reporting the research the Rugby Football Union has stacks and stacks of

Football Union has stacks and stacks of

Football Union has stacks and stacks of studies which is not being released at

studies which is not being released at

studies which is not being released at present the dates they have the last

present the dates they have the last

present the dates they have the last piece of days they reported it’s from

piece of days they reported it’s from

piece of days they reported it’s from 2013 nearly five years ago rugby is good

2013 nearly five years ago rugby is good

2013 nearly five years ago rugby is good for you but they’ve not presented any

for you but they’ve not presented any

for you but they’ve not presented any evidence to suggest that and in fact the

evidence to suggest that and in fact the

evidence to suggest that and in fact the studies are suggesting the opposite we

studies are suggesting the opposite we

studies are suggesting the opposite we just need more evidence and this delays

just need more evidence and this delays

just need more evidence and this delays the process we’ve not brought that

the process we’ve not brought that

the process we’ve not brought that little piece of evidence from that

little piece of evidence from that

little piece of evidence from that specific area but of course the evidence

specific area but of course the evidence

specific area but of course the evidence from all other areas that suggested only

from all other areas that suggested only

from all other areas that suggested only has a high risk of injury than other

has a high risk of injury than other

has a high risk of injury than other team sports of course there won’t be

team sports of course there won’t be

team sports of course there won’t be safe initiative which has recently been

safe initiative which has recently been

safe initiative which has recently been removed from even work these website

removed from even work these website

removed from even work these website because of some false information that

because of some false information that

because of some false information that they were sharing and then finally they

they were sharing and then finally they

they were sharing and then finally they deflect the problem it’s not Irish it

deflect the problem it’s not Irish it

deflect the problem it’s not Irish it schools are responsible for their

schools are responsible for their

schools are responsible for their curriculums

curriculums

curriculums we can’t wait them out so what can we do

we can’t wait them out so what can we do

we can’t wait them out so what can we do to reduce the risk of rugby and the

to reduce the risk of rugby and the

to reduce the risk of rugby and the injuries of concussion and so on so at

injuries of concussion and so on so at

injuries of concussion and so on so at the top of this of the hierarchy risk

the top of this of the hierarchy risk

the top of this of the hierarchy risk you may have seen this if everyone’s got

you may have seen this if everyone’s got

you may have seen this if everyone’s got a background in health and safety if

a background in health and safety if

a background in health and safety if we’re using a ladder what I’m do is we

we’re using a ladder what I’m do is we

we’re using a ladder what I’m do is we try and reduce the risk as much as the

try and reduce the risk as much as the

try and reduce the risk as much as the caps and as we go down the most

caps and as we go down the most

caps and as we go down the most effective way of reducing the risk would

effective way of reducing the risk would

effective way of reducing the risk would be removing the game take the risk away

be removing the game take the risk away

be removing the game take the risk away completely the next one will be

completely the next one will be

completely the next one will be replacing the tap with something else

replacing the tap with something else

replacing the tap with something else the next one would be refining the

the next one would be refining the

the next one would be refining the tapping technique

tapping technique

tapping technique next with the Education and regulation

next with the Education and regulation

next with the Education and regulation we finally will be strong cats now right

we finally will be strong cats now right

we finally will be strong cats now right we’ve got the human all work realties

we’ve got the human all work realties

we’ve got the human all work realties looked at this from the reverse arctic

looked at this from the reverse arctic

looked at this from the reverse arctic so first of all that they recognize that

so first of all that they recognize that

so first of all that they recognize that how mates and from perhaps were

how mates and from perhaps were

how mates and from perhaps were ineffective that prevents injury and

ineffective that prevents injury and

ineffective that prevents injury and concussion next they looked at education

concussion next they looked at education

concussion next they looked at education of the hex program by essentially by the

of the hex program by essentially by the

of the hex program by essentially by the time that we recognize indistinct us

time that we recognize indistinct us

time that we recognize indistinct us they’re already injured they’re already

they’re already injured they’re already

they’re already injured they’re already damaged so it’s the tertiary care

damaged so it’s the tertiary care

damaged so it’s the tertiary care focused we actually don’t evaluate these

focused we actually don’t evaluate these

focused we actually don’t evaluate these these things currently they’re nice time

these things currently they’re nice time

these things currently they’re nice time to look at tapri technique modifications

to look at tapri technique modifications

to look at tapri technique modifications and strengthen condition for which there

and strengthen condition for which there

and strengthen condition for which there is no evidence to suggest will work if

is no evidence to suggest will work if

is no evidence to suggest will work if we know that the best trained tacklers

we know that the best trained tacklers

we know that the best trained tacklers they also have the highest risk of

they also have the highest risk of

they also have the highest risk of injury because their borrowing

injury because their borrowing

injury because their borrowing performance over something so what we’re

performance over something so what we’re

performance over something so what we’re calling for is replacing that tackle

calling for is replacing that tackle

calling for is replacing that tackle with something else and there is

with something else and there is

with something else and there is evidence to suggest when you remove that

evidence to suggest when you remove that

evidence to suggest when you remove that contact I mean there’s a three-fold

contact I mean there’s a three-fold

contact I mean there’s a three-fold reduction of concussion so this is what

reduction of concussion so this is what

reduction of concussion so this is what we should be focusing on now I believe

we should be focusing on now I believe

we should be focusing on now I believe if the rugby is a great sport but I

if the rugby is a great sport but I

if the rugby is a great sport but I don’t believe it’s a swarm of physical

don’t believe it’s a swarm of physical

don’t believe it’s a swarm of physical education tools I don’t want to see more

education tools I don’t want to see more

education tools I don’t want to see more P lessons like this

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