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how often in your daily life

how often in your daily life do you actually stop and look around to

do you actually stop and look around to

do you actually stop and look around to see if you’re experiencing joy if you do

see if you’re experiencing joy if you do

see if you’re experiencing joy if you do feel that emotion of joy how often in

feel that emotion of joy how often in

feel that emotion of joy how often in life do you stop to think about from

life do you stop to think about from

life do you stop to think about from whence it came

whence it came

whence it came we see lots of feeds on social media and

we see lots of feeds on social media and

we see lots of feeds on social media and workshops and books that tell us to seek

workshops and books that tell us to seek

workshops and books that tell us to seek joy to find our joy and there’s one

joy to find our joy and there’s one

joy to find our joy and there’s one going around now about how to declutter

going around now about how to declutter

going around now about how to declutter in life you should go through your house

in life you should go through your house

in life you should go through your house and touch every object if it doesn’t

and touch every object if it doesn’t

and touch every object if it doesn’t spark joy you should rid yourself of it

spark joy you should rid yourself of it

spark joy you should rid yourself of it great there goes my vacuum cleaner there

great there goes my vacuum cleaner there

great there goes my vacuum cleaner there is an ancient biblical writing in the

is an ancient biblical writing in the

is an ancient biblical writing in the book of James that says consider it pure

book of James that says consider it pure

book of James that says consider it pure joy brothers and sisters whenever you

joy brothers and sisters whenever you

joy brothers and sisters whenever you face trials of many kinds so can pain

face trials of many kinds so can pain

face trials of many kinds so can pain begat joy the idea I proposed today is

begat joy the idea I proposed today is

begat joy the idea I proposed today is that painful life experiences traumas

that painful life experiences traumas

that painful life experiences traumas our experiences that form connectors

our experiences that form connectors

our experiences that form connectors with other people which form

with other people which form

with other people which form relationships we might never have that

relationships we might never have that

relationships we might never have that bring us joy my path to this idea to

bring us joy my path to this idea to

bring us joy my path to this idea to this discovery began five years ago when

this discovery began five years ago when

this discovery began five years ago when at the age of 47 for the first time I

at the age of 47 for the first time I

at the age of 47 for the first time I went to a mental health therapist

went to a mental health therapist

went to a mental health therapist because to the outside world I should

because to the outside world I should

because to the outside world I should have been a really happy person

have been a really happy person

have been a really happy person I had a decade’s long marriage to a good

I had a decade’s long marriage to a good

I had a decade’s long marriage to a good kind man I had a happy healthy

kind man I had a happy healthy

kind man I had a happy healthy successful teenager in college I had a

successful teenager in college I had a

successful teenager in college I had a good job fabulous girlfriends and all

good job fabulous girlfriends and all

good job fabulous girlfriends and all the money I needed but I was miserable

the money I needed but I was miserable

the money I needed but I was miserable nothing was ever good enough I never

nothing was ever good enough I never

nothing was ever good enough I never trusted anything I rarely trusted other

trusted anything I rarely trusted other

trusted anything I rarely trusted other people I felt that people always judged

people I felt that people always judged

people I felt that people always judged me that I wasn’t good enough and so I

me that I wasn’t good enough and so I

me that I wasn’t good enough and so I had to do extra I was often called a

had to do extra I was often called a

had to do extra I was often called a perfectionist type-a and I was starting

perfectionist type-a and I was starting

perfectionist type-a and I was starting to make others around me miserable so I

to make others around me miserable so I

to make others around me miserable so I went to therapy

went to therapy

went to therapy at the end of my first therapy session

at the end of my first therapy session

at the end of my first therapy session my therapists pulled up a list the

my therapists pulled up a list the

my therapists pulled up a list the official list of the United States

official list of the United States

official list of the United States substance abuse and mental health

substance abuse and mental health

substance abuse and mental health services administration adverse

services administration adverse

services administration adverse childhood experiences the Aces a list of

childhood experiences the Aces a list of

childhood experiences the Aces a list of 10 physical abuse sexual abuse emotional

10 physical abuse sexual abuse emotional

10 physical abuse sexual abuse emotional abuse physical neglect emotional neglect

abuse physical neglect emotional neglect

abuse physical neglect emotional neglect witnessing the violent treatment of a

witnessing the violent treatment of a

witnessing the violent treatment of a mother mental health issues in the

mother mental health issues in the

mother mental health issues in the household substance abuse in the

household substance abuse in the

household substance abuse in the household separation from parents

household separation from parents

household separation from parents divorce incarceration of family members

divorce incarceration of family members

divorce incarceration of family members she went through a list with me about

she went through a list with me about

she went through a list with me about halfway down I can starting for a skip

halfway down I can starting for a skip

halfway down I can starting for a skip okay we’re gonna skip one one of these

okay we’re gonna skip one one of these

okay we’re gonna skip one one of these will not apply to my childhood I will

will not apply to my childhood I will

will not apply to my childhood I will tell you for the first and only time in

tell you for the first and only time in

tell you for the first and only time in my life I was a perfect ten my aces

my life I was a perfect ten my aces

my life I was a perfect ten my aces journey began in the fall of 1964 when

journey began in the fall of 1964 when

journey began in the fall of 1964 when my mother a high school cheerleader

my mother a high school cheerleader

my mother a high school cheerleader student council representative and

student council representative and

student council representative and beloved baby child of a wealthy family

beloved baby child of a wealthy family

beloved baby child of a wealthy family was expelled from Salem Springs High

was expelled from Salem Springs High

was expelled from Salem Springs High School and told not to come back because

School and told not to come back because

School and told not to come back because she was pregnant with me my conception

she was pregnant with me my conception

she was pregnant with me my conception was my first adverse childhood

was my first adverse childhood

was my first adverse childhood experience my teenage parents were

experience my teenage parents were

experience my teenage parents were quickly married exiled to western

quickly married exiled to western

quickly married exiled to western Oklahoma to hide out with relatives and

Oklahoma to hide out with relatives and

Oklahoma to hide out with relatives and allowed to come back to Siloam Springs

allowed to come back to Siloam Springs

allowed to come back to Siloam Springs only after my birth we’re in I replaced

only after my birth we’re in I replaced

only after my birth we’re in I replaced my mother is the ador baby of the family

my mother is the ador baby of the family

my mother is the ador baby of the family this is me with my mother’s parents and

this is me with my mother’s parents and

this is me with my mother’s parents and my father’s parents my mother tried to

my father’s parents my mother tried to

my father’s parents my mother tried to be a housewife in Siloam Springs

be a housewife in Siloam Springs

be a housewife in Siloam Springs Arkansas

Arkansas

Arkansas and she was miserable and after

and she was miserable and after

and she was miserable and after witnessing the world events in the news

witnessing the world events in the news

witnessing the world events in the news of 1969 she divorced my father packed us

of 1969 she divorced my father packed us

of 1969 she divorced my father packed us up and moved us to Fayetteville in the

up and moved us to Fayetteville in the

up and moved us to Fayetteville in the summer of 1970 thus began my

summer of 1970 thus began my

summer of 1970 thus began my relationship

relationship

relationship was Dixon Street we lived in a duplex a

was Dixon Street we lived in a duplex a

was Dixon Street we lived in a duplex a block off Dixon Street where the Harmon

block off Dixon Street where the Harmon

block off Dixon Street where the Harmon Avenue parking garage is now I was

Avenue parking garage is now I was

Avenue parking garage is now I was enrolled in miss woods kindergarten and

enrolled in miss woods kindergarten and

enrolled in miss woods kindergarten and then Washington Elementary two blocks

then Washington Elementary two blocks

then Washington Elementary two blocks off Dixon Street

off Dixon Street

off Dixon Street my mother enrolled in the school of art

my mother enrolled in the school of art

my mother enrolled in the school of art art department as they called it then at

art department as they called it then at

art department as they called it then at the University of Arkansas this was the

the University of Arkansas this was the

the University of Arkansas this was the plan she had at age 17 she was in

plan she had at age 17 she was in

plan she had at age 17 she was in classes all day she would take me with

classes all day she would take me with

classes all day she would take me with her to classes in Old Main she was at

her to classes in Old Main she was at

her to classes in Old Main she was at the Art Studio on Center Street at night

the Art Studio on Center Street at night

the Art Studio on Center Street at night she worked part-time jobs and I became a

she worked part-time jobs and I became a

she worked part-time jobs and I became a fayetteville street rat kid alone many

fayetteville street rat kid alone many

fayetteville street rat kid alone many many hours almost every day of the week

many hours almost every day of the week

many hours almost every day of the week I spent hours at the Fayetteville Public

I spent hours at the Fayetteville Public

I spent hours at the Fayetteville Public Library which used to be on Dickson

Library which used to be on Dickson

Library which used to be on Dickson Street playing songs on the jukebox by

Street playing songs on the jukebox by

Street playing songs on the jukebox by the door at the bullseye pub three for a

the door at the bullseye pub three for a

the door at the bullseye pub three for a quarter across the street at the Rock

quarter across the street at the Rock

quarter across the street at the Rock Bottom comics food oak store originally

Bottom comics food oak store originally

Bottom comics food oak store originally on Dickson Street and often in the late

on Dickson Street and often in the late

on Dickson Street and often in the late afternoons when I wasn’t home watching

afternoons when I wasn’t home watching

afternoons when I wasn’t home watching The Brady Bunch alone I would ride my

The Brady Bunch alone I would ride my

The Brady Bunch alone I would ride my bike to George’s majestic lounge where

bike to George’s majestic lounge where

bike to George’s majestic lounge where my mother would meet up with her friends

my mother would meet up with her friends

my mother would meet up with her friends she had friends now who were artists

she had friends now who were artists

she had friends now who were artists musicians writers Chuck black friends

musicians writers Chuck black friends

musicians writers Chuck black friends and Jewish friends and gay friends and

and Jewish friends and gay friends and

and Jewish friends and gay friends and they would all hang out at George’s and

they would all hang out at George’s and

they would all hang out at George’s and Mary the bartender would let me sit on a

Mary the bartender would let me sit on a

Mary the bartender would let me sit on a stool by the door and there were lots of

stool by the door and there were lots of

stool by the door and there were lots of nights when I fell asleep on the picnic

nights when I fell asleep on the picnic

nights when I fell asleep on the picnic tables in the beer garden that used to

tables in the beer garden that used to

tables in the beer garden that used to be outside with a giant tree in the

be outside with a giant tree in the

be outside with a giant tree in the middle fast forward my mother remarried

middle fast forward my mother remarried

middle fast forward my mother remarried YES on Dickson Street and she had my

YES on Dickson Street and she had my

YES on Dickson Street and she had my baby brother she graduated from art

baby brother she graduated from art

baby brother she graduated from art school and after a disastrous attempt at

school and after a disastrous attempt at

school and after a disastrous attempt at trying to be a public schoolteacher she

trying to be a public schoolteacher she

trying to be a public schoolteacher she divorced her second husband an abuse of

divorced her second husband an abuse of

divorced her second husband an abuse of an unkind man and at the behest of my

an unkind man and at the behest of my

an unkind man and at the behest of my grandparents enrolled in the School of

grandparents enrolled in the School of

grandparents enrolled in the School of Law at the University of Arkansas this

Law at the University of Arkansas this

Law at the University of Arkansas this began a parade of more boyfriends and

began a parade of more boyfriends and

began a parade of more boyfriends and their friends and drugs and my mother to

their friends and drugs and my mother to

their friends and drugs and my mother to fund her life in law school became a

fund her life in law school became a

fund her life in law school became a drug dealer

drug dealer

drug dealer we had weed screens and weights in the

we had weed screens and weights in the

we had weed screens and weights in the garage baggies full of speed pills in

garage baggies full of speed pills in

garage baggies full of speed pills in the bathroom and I was often sent

the bathroom and I was often sent

the bathroom and I was often sent with her boyfriends to deliver drugs

with her boyfriends to deliver drugs

with her boyfriends to deliver drugs into South Fayetteville because a little

into South Fayetteville because a little

into South Fayetteville because a little blonde headed kid in the car is good

blonde headed kid in the car is good

blonde headed kid in the car is good cover we go to Rogers wreck on Dixon and

cover we go to Rogers wreck on Dixon and

cover we go to Rogers wreck on Dixon and I would play foosball

I would play foosball

I would play foosball well they sold drugs and drink beer they

well they sold drugs and drink beer they

well they sold drugs and drink beer they also started an art and antiques theft

also started an art and antiques theft

also started an art and antiques theft ring

ring

ring very creative they would go to

very creative they would go to

very creative they would go to unsuspecting rural antique stores and

unsuspecting rural antique stores and

unsuspecting rural antique stores and get me to get the owners attention in

get me to get the owners attention in

get me to get the owners attention in the front or in the back and they would

the front or in the back and they would

the front or in the back and they would take things out the door and then

take things out the door and then

take things out the door and then traveled to Kansas City and Little Rock

traveled to Kansas City and Little Rock

traveled to Kansas City and Little Rock in Tulsa and sell them my mother walked

in Tulsa and sell them my mother walked

in Tulsa and sell them my mother walked at graduation at the school of law and I

at graduation at the school of law and I

at graduation at the school of law and I was her little hippie kid running the

was her little hippie kid running the

was her little hippie kid running the streets of Fayetteville look at that

streets of Fayetteville look at that

streets of Fayetteville look at that hair and three months after walking at

hair and three months after walking at

hair and three months after walking at graduation at the School of Law this is

graduation at the School of Law this is

graduation at the School of Law this is my mother in the back

my mother in the back

my mother in the back it’s a beautiful long brown hair unit

it’s a beautiful long brown hair unit

it’s a beautiful long brown hair unit one Cummins women’s prison Pine Bluff

one Cummins women’s prison Pine Bluff

one Cummins women’s prison Pine Bluff Arkansas I went back to Siloam Springs

Arkansas I went back to Siloam Springs

Arkansas I went back to Siloam Springs and I rotated amongst the homes of my

and I rotated amongst the homes of my

and I rotated amongst the homes of my mother’s parents and my father’s mother

mother’s parents and my father’s mother

mother’s parents and my father’s mother and my dad and my stepmom who now had

and my dad and my stepmom who now had

and my dad and my stepmom who now had three children under the age of five I

three children under the age of five I

three children under the age of five I was happy to be there clean sheets air

was happy to be there clean sheets air

was happy to be there clean sheets air conditioning food in the fridge before

conditioning food in the fridge before

conditioning food in the fridge before school I was not welcomed by a lot of

school I was not welcomed by a lot of

school I was not welcomed by a lot of the kids was not allowed in their homes

the kids was not allowed in their homes

the kids was not allowed in their homes even though my grandfather was a wealthy

even though my grandfather was a wealthy

even though my grandfather was a wealthy Baptist deacon at the Baptist Church I

Baptist deacon at the Baptist Church I

Baptist deacon at the Baptist Church I was the druggie hippie convicts kid but

was the druggie hippie convicts kid but

was the druggie hippie convicts kid but due to the love of family members there

due to the love of family members there

due to the love of family members there and incredible high school public

and incredible high school public

and incredible high school public teachers I did well in school I started

teachers I did well in school I started

teachers I did well in school I started having a series of part-time jobs

having a series of part-time jobs

having a series of part-time jobs McDonald’s drive-through mowing lawns

McDonald’s drive-through mowing lawns

McDonald’s drive-through mowing lawns for my dad scrubbing toilets and

for my dad scrubbing toilets and

for my dad scrubbing toilets and cleaning house and I got attention from

cleaning house and I got attention from

cleaning house and I got attention from my bosses I was hardworking I wasn’t

my bosses I was hardworking I wasn’t

my bosses I was hardworking I wasn’t scared to work hard unlike some of the

scared to work hard unlike some of the

scared to work hard unlike some of the kids who had Mike and Carol Brodie his

kids who had Mike and Carol Brodie his

kids who had Mike and Carol Brodie his parents it was during this time I began

parents it was during this time I began

parents it was during this time I began to hear a phrase in spite of your

to hear a phrase in spite of your

to hear a phrase in spite of your childhood spite of that mother of yours

childhood spite of that mother of yours

childhood spite of that mother of yours theirs

theirs

theirs girl you should go to college you’re

girl you should go to college you’re

girl you should go to college you’re gonna make something of yourself

gonna make something of yourself

gonna make something of yourself I thought this was a good thing and I

I thought this was a good thing and I

I thought this was a good thing and I began to have these badges of I’m gonna

began to have these badges of I’m gonna

began to have these badges of I’m gonna show people you think you know who I am

show people you think you know who I am

show people you think you know who I am I’m gonna show you who I am as Ford I

I’m gonna show you who I am as Ford I

I’m gonna show you who I am as Ford I during this time in high school still

during this time in high school still

during this time in high school still snuck over to Rogers wreck it was also

snuck over to Rogers wreck it was also

snuck over to Rogers wreck it was also during this time that I met a quiet

during this time that I met a quiet

during this time that I met a quiet good-looking athletic farm boy driving a

good-looking athletic farm boy driving a

good-looking athletic farm boy driving a 1967 Corvette I was very drawn to his

1967 Corvette I was very drawn to his

1967 Corvette I was very drawn to his quiet normal farm family I enrolled at

quiet normal farm family I enrolled at

quiet normal farm family I enrolled at the University of Arkansas went to

the University of Arkansas went to

the University of Arkansas went to college graduated during this time a few

college graduated during this time a few

college graduated during this time a few years before that my mother had been

years before that my mother had been

years before that my mother had been paroled from prison and yes only my

paroled from prison and yes only my

paroled from prison and yes only my mother could pick up a man in prison

mother could pick up a man in prison

mother could pick up a man in prison penpal so after her parole she went to

penpal so after her parole she went to

penpal so after her parole she went to the East Coast I was forced to live with

the East Coast I was forced to live with

the East Coast I was forced to live with her during her parole but then she was

her during her parole but then she was

her during her parole but then she was gone and I came on to college graduated

gone and I came on to college graduated

gone and I came on to college graduated married that boy in the Corvette was a

married that boy in the Corvette was a

married that boy in the Corvette was a public high school teacher I then went

public high school teacher I then went

public high school teacher I then went to the School of Law at the University

to the School of Law at the University

to the School of Law at the University of Arkansas and yes I graduated at the

of Arkansas and yes I graduated at the

of Arkansas and yes I graduated at the Walton Arts Center from law school with

Walton Arts Center from law school with

Walton Arts Center from law school with my baby son the light of my life by this

my baby son the light of my life by this

my baby son the light of my life by this time in the early 90s me and Dickson

time in the early 90s me and Dickson

time in the early 90s me and Dickson Street had cleaned up our act our dirty

Street had cleaned up our act our dirty

Street had cleaned up our act our dirty violence colorful paths we’re

violence colorful paths we’re

violence colorful paths we’re disappearing Dickson Street because of

disappearing Dickson Street because of

disappearing Dickson Street because of the condemnation proceedings to build

the condemnation proceedings to build

the condemnation proceedings to build the wall Art Center those of you who

the wall Art Center those of you who

the wall Art Center those of you who moved here after the 90s don’t know in

moved here after the 90s don’t know in

moved here after the 90s don’t know in 1982 81 there were three violent murders

1982 81 there were three violent murders

1982 81 there were three violent murders on Dickson Street – which were never

on Dickson Street – which were never

on Dickson Street – which were never solved and lots of the buildings had

solved and lots of the buildings had

solved and lots of the buildings had rats sounds like a great story

rats sounds like a great story

rats sounds like a great story fast-forward back to therapy five years

fast-forward back to therapy five years

fast-forward back to therapy five years ago my therapist in my second or third

ago my therapist in my second or third

ago my therapist in my second or third session had me make a list of all the

session had me make a list of all the

session had me make a list of all the places I had lived before the age of 12

places I had lived before the age of 12

places I had lived before the age of 12 when most of the worst abuse of my life

when most of the worst abuse of my life

when most of the worst abuse of my life had occurred

had occurred

had occurred and I don’t give you details of the

and I don’t give you details of the

and I don’t give you details of the abuse you’ve all read memoirs you listen

abuse you’ve all read memoirs you listen

abuse you’ve all read memoirs you listen to NPR I know you’ve done those two

to NPR I know you’ve done those two

to NPR I know you’ve done those two things because you’re at a dead dog we

things because you’re at a dead dog we

things because you’re at a dead dog we counted up that I had moved 14 times

counted up that I had moved 14 times

counted up that I had moved 14 times before the age of 12 14 different

before the age of 12 14 different

before the age of 12 14 different bedrooms beds cots she said no wonder

bedrooms beds cots she said no wonder

bedrooms beds cots she said no wonder you’re always gunning for the future and

you’re always gunning for the future and

you’re always gunning for the future and trying to be perfect and worrying about

trying to be perfect and worrying about

trying to be perfect and worrying about everything for everyone else you don’t

everything for everyone else you don’t

everything for everyone else you don’t trust you have to learn to let people

trust you have to learn to let people

trust you have to learn to let people love you but during this time that I

love you but during this time that I

love you but during this time that I began to see that living in spite of

began to see that living in spite of

began to see that living in spite of anything is poisonous to my soul if

anything is poisonous to my soul if

anything is poisonous to my soul if you’re living in spite of something from

you’re living in spite of something from

you’re living in spite of something from the past you’re living in the past

the past you’re living in the past

the past you’re living in the past you’re not seeing the joy in the present

you’re not seeing the joy in the present

you’re not seeing the joy in the present if you’re constantly worrying about

if you’re constantly worrying about

if you’re constantly worrying about tomorrow that things are gonna go bad

tomorrow that things are gonna go bad

tomorrow that things are gonna go bad was always worried about my son what if

was always worried about my son what if

was always worried about my son what if something happens to me will he be able

something happens to me will he be able

something happens to me will he be able to take care of himself he needs good

to take care of himself he needs good

to take care of himself he needs good grades so he can go to college I was

grades so he can go to college I was

grades so he can go to college I was making everyone crazy I was tired of

making everyone crazy I was tired of

making everyone crazy I was tired of being supermom and super lawyer and

being supermom and super lawyer and

being supermom and super lawyer and super volunteer and super granddaughter

super volunteer and super granddaughter

super volunteer and super granddaughter I began to enter group therapy instead

I began to enter group therapy instead

I began to enter group therapy instead he’s spiritual writings I had been to

he’s spiritual writings I had been to

he’s spiritual writings I had been to church my whole life but I finally began

church my whole life but I finally began

church my whole life but I finally began to listen to the writings about the love

to listen to the writings about the love

to listen to the writings about the love that God had for me the moment I was

that God had for me the moment I was

that God had for me the moment I was born no one else on this earth wanted me

born no one else on this earth wanted me

born no one else on this earth wanted me to be born but God loved me

to be born but God loved me

to be born but God loved me and welcomed me I was finally able to

and welcomed me I was finally able to

and welcomed me I was finally able to rid myself of shame and embarrassment

rid myself of shame and embarrassment

rid myself of shame and embarrassment and love others and through that I began

and love others and through that I began

and love others and through that I began to see the joy in my life I had been

to see the joy in my life I had been

to see the joy in my life I had been missing for years in my professional

missing for years in my professional

missing for years in my professional life there’s a great story I was a

life there’s a great story I was a

life there’s a great story I was a business and banking attorney in

business and banking attorney in

business and banking attorney in Oklahoma and I had a friend who was an

Oklahoma and I had a friend who was an

Oklahoma and I had a friend who was an adoption attorney in Arkansas and she

adoption attorney in Arkansas and she

adoption attorney in Arkansas and she said well you run up to the Ottawa

said well you run up to the Ottawa

said well you run up to the Ottawa County Jail in Miami Oklahoma and get

County Jail in Miami Oklahoma and get

County Jail in Miami Oklahoma and get this woman to sign an adoption consent

this woman to sign an adoption consent

this woman to sign an adoption consent she knew I would go because I had

she knew I would go because I had

she knew I would go because I had visited prisons many times in my

visited prisons many times in my

visited prisons many times in my childhood I said sure I go up there I go

childhood I said sure I go up there I go

childhood I said sure I go up there I go in the room this young woman’s brought

in the room this young woman’s brought

in the room this young woman’s brought in orange jumpsuit or handcuffs and then

in orange jumpsuit or handcuffs and then

in orange jumpsuit or handcuffs and then I lay out the consent I tell her don’t

I lay out the consent I tell her don’t

I lay out the consent I tell her don’t sign it biggest mistake of your life

sign it biggest mistake of your life

sign it biggest mistake of your life you’ll never see your kid again she

you’ll never see your kid again she

you’ll never see your kid again she cries she signs it I’m about to leave

cries she signs it I’m about to leave

cries she signs it I’m about to leave easy job don’t know this girl

easy job don’t know this girl

easy job don’t know this girl nothing like her and lights and sirens

nothing like her and lights and sirens

nothing like her and lights and sirens go off the jail was in lockdown 45

go off the jail was in lockdown 45

go off the jail was in lockdown 45 minutes in a room with this girl in an

minutes in a room with this girl in an

minutes in a room with this girl in an orange jumpsuit

orange jumpsuit

orange jumpsuit so we talked nothing else today her

so we talked nothing else today her

so we talked nothing else today her mother was a drug addict

mother was a drug addict

mother was a drug addict her parents were divorced her mother

her parents were divorced her mother

her parents were divorced her mother went to prison and we talked and this

went to prison and we talked and this

went to prison and we talked and this girl that I thought I had nothing in

girl that I thought I had nothing in

girl that I thought I had nothing in common with I had everything in common

common with I had everything in common

common with I had everything in common with and when I got up to leave and she

with and when I got up to leave and she

with and when I got up to leave and she was putting her hands behind her back to

was putting her hands behind her back to

was putting her hands behind her back to be handcuffed again she looked at me and

be handcuffed again she looked at me and

be handcuffed again she looked at me and she said thank you for talking to me

she said thank you for talking to me

she said thank you for talking to me like a real person I’ll think about

like a real person I’ll think about

like a real person I’ll think about getting that GED I’ve never forgotten

getting that GED I’ve never forgotten

getting that GED I’ve never forgotten that and that brought me joy in my work

that and that brought me joy in my work

that and that brought me joy in my work today is a small business banker and

today is a small business banker and

today is a small business banker and formerly as a business consultant I

formerly as a business consultant I

formerly as a business consultant I often come to Dickson Street in the

often come to Dickson Street in the

often come to Dickson Street in the streets around here and I work with

streets around here and I work with

streets around here and I work with artists and writers and musicians about

artists and writers and musicians about

artists and writers and musicians about boring sterile things like cash flow

boring sterile things like cash flow

boring sterile things like cash flow analysis and profit loss statements and

analysis and profit loss statements and

analysis and profit loss statements and I connect with them because I want them

I connect with them because I want them

I connect with them because I want them to have the chance to be funded to have

to have the chance to be funded to have

to have the chance to be funded to have art as their passion because I wonder

art as their passion because I wonder

art as their passion because I wonder what would have happened to my mother

what would have happened to my mother

what would have happened to my mother she could have made a living as an

she could have made a living as an

she could have made a living as an artist at an early age she did go on to

artist at an early age she did go on to

artist at an early age she did go on to the East Coast and sort of make a living

the East Coast and sort of make a living

the East Coast and sort of make a living as an artist in 2009 she passed away

as an artist in 2009 she passed away

as an artist in 2009 she passed away back here and I helped care for her

back here and I helped care for her

back here and I helped care for her toward the end of her life in my

toward the end of her life in my

toward the end of her life in my personal life today I’m a member a

personal life today I’m a member a

personal life today I’m a member a central United Methodist Church on

central United Methodist Church on

central United Methodist Church on Dickson Street but I serve mostly at its

Dickson Street but I serve mostly at its

Dickson Street but I serve mostly at its outreach Church in South Fayetteville

outreach Church in South Fayetteville

outreach Church in South Fayetteville the same streets I used to ride in cars

the same streets I used to ride in cars

the same streets I used to ride in cars with my mother’s drug dealer boyfriends

with my mother’s drug dealer boyfriends

with my mother’s drug dealer boyfriends and there every Sunday you’ll see me

and there every Sunday you’ll see me

and there every Sunday you’ll see me this Sunday we greet people who own

this Sunday we greet people who own

this Sunday we greet people who own nothing but a backpack on their back

nothing but a backpack on their back

nothing but a backpack on their back people who are fresh out of rehab and I

people who are fresh out of rehab and I

people who are fresh out of rehab and I take care of their babies in the nursery

take care of their babies in the nursery

take care of their babies in the nursery so they can go worship I served four

so they can go worship I served four

so they can go worship I served four years in Oklahoma at a camp by the

years in Oklahoma at a camp by the

years in Oklahoma at a camp by the Episcopal Diocese of Tulsa for children

Episcopal Diocese of Tulsa for children

Episcopal Diocese of Tulsa for children of the incarcerated or children from all

of the incarcerated or children from all

of the incarcerated or children from all over the state are brought to summer

over the state are brought to summer

over the state are brought to summer camp to just be kids and be with people

camp to just be kids and be with people

camp to just be kids and be with people whom they can connect with the people

whom they can connect with the people

whom they can connect with the people who understand what it’s like to love

who understand what it’s like to love

who understand what it’s like to love and to hate a parent inside we know what

and to hate a parent inside we know what

and to hate a parent inside we know what it’s like to be proud of their parents

it’s like to be proud of their parents

it’s like to be proud of their parents for making it but be so ashamed to the

for making it but be so ashamed to the

for making it but be so ashamed to the outside world and my work with those

outside world and my work with those

outside world and my work with those kids and my work with the people I do

kids and my work with the people I do

kids and my work with the people I do today bring me joy I no longer wish that

today bring me joy I no longer wish that

today bring me joy I no longer wish that Mike and Carol Brady were my parents I

Mike and Carol Brady were my parents I

Mike and Carol Brady were my parents I would not have their relationships and

would not have their relationships and

would not have their relationships and the people in my life that I have today

the people in my life that I have today

the people in my life that I have today living in spite of something that has

living in spite of something that has

living in spite of something that has given me connectors to other people has

given me connectors to other people has

given me connectors to other people has given me joy in my life I’ve in recent

given me joy in my life I’ve in recent

given me joy in my life I’ve in recent years applied those principles to my

years applied those principles to my

years applied those principles to my physical body as well as my spiritual no

physical body as well as my spiritual no

physical body as well as my spiritual no more anger no more alcohol

more anger no more alcohol

more anger no more alcohol no more self-pity no more cigarettes no

no more self-pity no more cigarettes no

no more self-pity no more cigarettes no more shame no more sugar

more shame no more sugar

more shame no more sugar I live in joy and gratitude every day

I live in joy and gratitude every day

I live in joy and gratitude every day and I look for it and I see it of course

and I look for it and I see it of course

and I look for it and I see it of course I don’t wish not glad that neither

I don’t wish not glad that neither

I don’t wish not glad that neither things that happened to me happen but

things that happened to me happen but

things that happened to me happen but they’re not going away they’re part of

they’re not going away they’re part of

they’re not going away they’re part of my story

my story

my story the great writer Bernard Malamud

the great writer Bernard Malamud

the great writer Bernard Malamud American author has one of my favorite

American author has one of my favorite

American author has one of my favorite quotes which is life as a tragedy full

quotes which is life as a tragedy full

quotes which is life as a tragedy full of joy and this past week I’ve added

of joy and this past week I’ve added

of joy and this past week I’ve added another quote to this talk from the

another quote to this talk from the

another quote to this talk from the great American rock poet Tom Petty baby

great American rock poet Tom Petty baby

great American rock poet Tom Petty baby you don’t have to live like a refugee as

you don’t have to live like a refugee as

you don’t have to live like a refugee as for me and Dickson Street you will still

for me and Dickson Street you will still

for me and Dickson Street you will still see me many mornings in the dark running

see me many mornings in the dark running

see me many mornings in the dark running on its sidewalks writing my road bike

on its sidewalks writing my road bike

on its sidewalks writing my road bike down its streets my husband that I

down its streets my husband that I

down its streets my husband that I married and I’m still married to after

married and I’m still married to after

married and I’m still married to after 30 years this summer was part of the

30 years this summer was part of the

30 years this summer was part of the original bikes blues a barbeque group

original bikes blues a barbeque group

original bikes blues a barbeque group the year before it had a name me and

the year before it had a name me and

the year before it had a name me and that baby brother the my mother lost

that baby brother the my mother lost

that baby brother the my mother lost custody of our still close he lives out

custody of our still close he lives out

custody of our still close he lives out west

west

west and yes the husband stayed and the 25

and yes the husband stayed and the 25

and yes the husband stayed and the 25 year old son speaks to me again and we

year old son speaks to me again and we

year old son speaks to me again and we get along as well as any 25 year old and

get along as well as any 25 year old and

get along as well as any 25 year old and 52 year old can I come here and have

52 year old can I come here and have

52 year old can I come here and have brunch with my girlfriends and dinner

brunch with my girlfriends and dinner

brunch with my girlfriends and dinner dates with my husband and me and the D

dates with my husband and me and the D

dates with my husband and me and the D are doing okay thank you

are doing okay thank you

are doing okay thank you [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] you

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