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A.I. and the hype ? | Martin Robbins | TEDxAberystwyth


so I’m told a degree in computer science

so I’m told a degree in computer science from

from

from three seconds it’s possibly

so recently I picked up whose name I’m

so recently I picked up whose name I’m fasting lottery counter revealed on

fasting lottery counter revealed on

fasting lottery counter revealed on stage in TED talk on the back cover of

stage in TED talk on the back cover of

stage in TED talk on the back cover of the book it made three bold visionary

the book it made three bold visionary

the book it made three bold visionary headline claims about the future of

headline claims about the future of

headline claims about the future of intelligent machines the first claim and

intelligent machines the first claim and

intelligent machines the first claim and hold on to your seats for this because

hold on to your seats for this because

hold on to your seats for this because it’s a big one

it’s a big one

it’s a big one was that Oh in very very very soon we

was that Oh in very very very soon we

was that Oh in very very very soon we could have robots that are as

could have robots that are as

could have robots that are as intelligent as insects thank you

intelligent as insects thank you

intelligent as insects thank you the second claim was a little bit more

the second claim was a little bit more

the second claim was a little bit more impressive it said that in perhaps as

impressive it said that in perhaps as

impressive it said that in perhaps as soon as five years we’ll have robots

soon as five years we’ll have robots

soon as five years we’ll have robots that are as intelligence and as cats

that are as intelligence and as cats

that are as intelligence and as cats which is pretty cool I think and that

which is pretty cool I think and that

which is pretty cool I think and that means in perhaps three or four years

means in perhaps three or four years

means in perhaps three or four years we’ll have robots as intelligent as dogs

the final claim sort of inevitably for

the final claim sort of inevitably for any kind of book about artificial

any kind of book about artificial

any kind of book about artificial intelligence is of course the big one

intelligence is of course the big one

intelligence is of course the big one which is that in perhaps as soon as ten

which is that in perhaps as soon as ten

which is that in perhaps as soon as ten years we’ll have robots as intelligent

years we’ll have robots as intelligent

years we’ll have robots as intelligent as people and like if you’ve seen the

as people and like if you’ve seen the

as people and like if you’ve seen the news recently that seems increasingly

news recently that seems increasingly

news recently that seems increasingly plausible regardless of your own kind of

plausible regardless of your own kind of

plausible regardless of your own kind of personal opinions about this and what

personal opinions about this and what

personal opinions about this and what you think sort of is you know whether

you think sort of is you know whether

you think sort of is you know whether this is kind of a reasonable timeline

this is kind of a reasonable timeline

this is kind of a reasonable timeline it’s kind of irrelevant because the

it’s kind of irrelevant because the

it’s kind of irrelevant because the reality is this book was written in 1997

reality is this book was written in 1997

reality is this book was written in 1997 and I think it’s pretty fast to say that

and I think it’s pretty fast to say that

and I think it’s pretty fast to say that the future that had been busy did not

the future that had been busy did not

the future that had been busy did not sort of come to pass and in fact the

sort of come to pass and in fact the

sort of come to pass and in fact the most intelligent robot in my life right

most intelligent robot in my life right

most intelligent robot in my life right now is Rosie the robot which is so

now is Rosie the robot which is so

now is Rosie the robot which is so intelligent that it navigates around my

intelligent that it navigates around my

intelligent that it navigates around my living room by a system of colliding

living room by a system of colliding

living room by a system of colliding with household objects and then changing

with household objects and then changing

with household objects and then changing direction and then sort of diving under

direction and then sort of diving under

direction and then sort of diving under the TV unit grabbing hold of cables and

the TV unit grabbing hold of cables and

the TV unit grabbing hold of cables and trailing electrical equipment across a

trailing electrical equipment across a

trailing electrical equipment across a low demand floor

low demand floor

low demand floor so this isn’t exactly the future that I

so this isn’t exactly the future that I

so this isn’t exactly the future that I was promised in the honest I was growing

was promised in the honest I was growing

was promised in the honest I was growing up and but in spite of that in spite of

up and but in spite of that in spite of

up and but in spite of that in spite of that disappointment were having to deal

that disappointment were having to deal

that disappointment were having to deal with the sort of cavalcade of

with the sort of cavalcade of

with the sort of cavalcade of futurologists and tech pioneers and

futurologists and tech pioneers and

futurologists and tech pioneers and visionaries having us again and again

visionaries having us again and again

visionaries having us again and again and again that the singularity is just

and again that the singularity is just

and again that the singularity is just around the corner machines are going to

around the corner machines are going to

around the corner machines are going to be more intelligent than human beings

be more intelligent than human beings

be more intelligent than human beings they’re going to take out jobs they’re

they’re going to take out jobs they’re

they’re going to take out jobs they’re gonna steal our wives and husbands and

gonna steal our wives and husbands and

gonna steal our wives and husbands and yet increasingly less this kind of

yet increasingly less this kind of

yet increasingly less this kind of growing disparity between the claims

growing disparity between the claims

growing disparity between the claims that are being made and the reality that

that are being made and the reality that

that are being made and the reality that we see in the world around us and to to

we see in the world around us and to to

we see in the world around us and to to kind of explore that a bit I want to

kind of explore that a bit I want to

kind of explore that a bit I want to take you on a little bit of a a thought

take you on a little bit of a a thought

take you on a little bit of a a thought experiment now imagine and this is quite

experiment now imagine and this is quite

experiment now imagine and this is quite exciting imagine you’re an office worker

exciting imagine you’re an office worker

exciting imagine you’re an office worker in the year 1990 some of you have maybe

in the year 1990 some of you have maybe

in the year 1990 some of you have maybe a little bit more easy than others but a

a little bit more easy than others but a

a little bit more easy than others but a few things sort of become quite apparent

few things sort of become quite apparent

few things sort of become quite apparent so it’s somebody graduating now this

so it’s somebody graduating now this

so it’s somebody graduating now this would be a very different one and first

would be a very different one and first

would be a very different one and first of all obviously growing black and white

of all obviously growing black and white

of all obviously growing black and white this time it’s 20 and 27 nearly 30 years

this time it’s 20 and 27 nearly 30 years

this time it’s 20 and 27 nearly 30 years ago if you have a computer on your desk

ago if you have a computer on your desk

ago if you have a computer on your desk it’s not a particularly smart one it may

it’s not a particularly smart one it may

it’s not a particularly smart one it may not be much more than a basic terminal

not be much more than a basic terminal

not be much more than a basic terminal you’re probably looking at a user

you’re probably looking at a user

you’re probably looking at a user interface that’s made out of ASCII art

interface that’s made out of ASCII art

interface that’s made out of ASCII art if you want to send a message to a

if you want to send a message to a

if you want to send a message to a colleague you’re probably going to have

colleague you’re probably going to have

colleague you’re probably going to have to pick up the phone or send a memo if

to pick up the phone or send a memo if

to pick up the phone or send a memo if you’re going to send a document to

you’re going to send a document to

you’re going to send a document to another office you might be looking at

another office you might be looking at

another office you might be looking at something called a fax machine but all

something called a fax machine but all

something called a fax machine but all of the post or various other sort of

of the post or various other sort of

of the post or various other sort of antiquated technologies so the world

antiquated technologies so the world

antiquated technologies so the world that we have now pretty much doesn’t

that we have now pretty much doesn’t

that we have now pretty much doesn’t exist even even as recently as this now

exist even even as recently as this now

exist even even as recently as this now I want to take you through this kind of

I want to take you through this kind of

I want to take you through this kind of experiment that was postulated by a

experiment that was postulated by a

experiment that was postulated by a economist called Robert Gordon who did a

economist called Robert Gordon who did a

economist called Robert Gordon who did a very similar sort of approach for

very similar sort of approach for

very similar sort of approach for productivity during the 20th century but

productivity during the 20th century but

productivity during the 20th century but imagine that you fall asleep like you go

imagine that you fall asleep like you go

imagine that you fall asleep like you go out you have quite a heavy lunch down

out you have quite a heavy lunch down

out you have quite a heavy lunch down the pub you come back to your office

the pub you come back to your office

the pub you come back to your office you’ve had one or two Simoni you feel a

you’ve had one or two Simoni you feel a

you’ve had one or two Simoni you feel a bit dozy and you fall asleep at your

bit dozy and you fall asleep at your

bit dozy and you fall asleep at your desk and you sleep for ten years and you

desk and you sleep for ten years and you

desk and you sleep for ten years and you wake up in the year 2000

wake up in the year 2000

wake up in the year 2000 somehow you’ve still got your job you’re

somehow you’ve still got your job you’re

somehow you’ve still got your job you’re at the st. that’s even though

at the st. that’s even though

at the st. that’s even though functionally useless for the last ten

functionally useless for the last ten

functionally useless for the last ten years maybe you’ve been working on the

years maybe you’ve been working on the

years maybe you’ve been working on the development unit for Windows I mean but

development unit for Windows I mean but

development unit for Windows I mean but whatever the reason you’re still there

whatever the reason you’re still there

whatever the reason you’re still there but the world that you’re in now is very

but the world that you’re in now is very

but the world that you’re in now is very very different and this is kind of what

very different and this is kind of what

very different and this is kind of what you’re faced with it’s basically the

you’re faced with it’s basically the

you’re faced with it’s basically the same desktop I had when I started

same desktop I had when I started

same desktop I had when I started University here in the year 2000

University here in the year 2000

University here in the year 2000 computers themselves have been

computers themselves have been

computers themselves have been completely revolutionized we’ve had

completely revolutionized we’ve had

completely revolutionized we’ve had Windows 3.1 Windows 95 windows 98

Windows 3.1 Windows 95 windows 98

Windows 3.1 Windows 95 windows 98 Internet Explorer we’ve got an email now

Internet Explorer we’ve got an email now

Internet Explorer we’ve got an email now for sending documents mp3s solitaire

for sending documents mp3s solitaire

for sending documents mp3s solitaire like this is a drastically different

like this is a drastically different

like this is a drastically different Microsoft Office and boring PowerPoint

Microsoft Office and boring PowerPoint

Microsoft Office and boring PowerPoint presentations like this one so this is a

presentations like this one so this is a

presentations like this one so this is a drastically different kind of office

drastically different kind of office

drastically different kind of office what the best of confusing while that

what the best of confusing while that

what the best of confusing while that you have 10 years before and then

you have 10 years before and then

you have 10 years before and then obviously this is going to be quite a

obviously this is going to be quite a

obviously this is going to be quite a shock to the system so imagine that you

shock to the system so imagine that you

shock to the system so imagine that you sort of go and have another drink and

sort of go and have another drink and

sort of go and have another drink and you come back to your desk again and you

you come back to your desk again and you

you come back to your desk again and you fall asleep you pass out and you sleep

fall asleep you pass out and you sleep

fall asleep you pass out and you sleep for another 10 years now you wake up in

for another 10 years now you wake up in

for another 10 years now you wake up in the year 2010 somehow you still want

the year 2010 somehow you still want

the year 2010 somehow you still want your job in spite of being function of

your job in spite of being function of

your job in spite of being function of the user for the last 10 years maybe

the user for the last 10 years maybe

the user for the last 10 years maybe you’ve been working on the development

you’ve been working on the development

you’ve been working on the development team for Windows 8 why you’ve been

team for Windows 8 why you’ve been

team for Windows 8 why you’ve been asleep there’s been not one but two

asleep there’s been not one but two

asleep there’s been not one but two major revelations in confusing the first

major revelations in confusing the first

major revelations in confusing the first is the mobile revolution as kind of

is the mobile revolution as kind of

is the mobile revolution as kind of epitomized by Apple we’ve had in that

epitomized by Apple we’ve had in that

epitomized by Apple we’ve had in that time period the iPod the iPhone the iPad

time period the iPod the iPhone the iPad

time period the iPod the iPhone the iPad so a whole range of the advices when you

so a whole range of the advices when you

so a whole range of the advices when you got to the end of the nineties you have

got to the end of the nineties you have

got to the end of the nineties you have Microsoft Office on your desktop

Microsoft Office on your desktop

Microsoft Office on your desktop computer now you can for people using

computer now you can for people using

computer now you can for people using your mobile phone it’s it’s an

your mobile phone it’s it’s an

your mobile phone it’s it’s an incredible transformation and that’s

incredible transformation and that’s

incredible transformation and that’s been matched by a parallel revolution

been matched by a parallel revolution

been matched by a parallel revolution that’s happened in the world of the

that’s happened in the world of the

that’s happened in the world of the internet so we have things like

internet so we have things like

internet so we have things like Wikipedia reddit Facebook Twitter all of

Wikipedia reddit Facebook Twitter all of

Wikipedia reddit Facebook Twitter all of those sites and services that pretty

those sites and services that pretty

those sites and services that pretty much we use today are invented in this

much we use today are invented in this

much we use today are invented in this same time period so again the world is

same time period so again the world is

same time period so again the world is very very different in the space of 10

very very different in the space of 10

very very different in the space of 10 years then if we look at the time

years then if we look at the time

years then if we look at the time since 2010

since 2010

since 2010 there’s this kind of weird sort of

there’s this kind of weird sort of

there’s this kind of weird sort of slowing down in the race of changing the

slowing down in the race of changing the

slowing down in the race of changing the stuff that we’re using this is a list of

stuff that we’re using this is a list of

stuff that we’re using this is a list of some of the top websites and services

some of the top websites and services

some of the top websites and services that we use online and you can see most

that we use online and you can see most

that we use online and you can see most of them it’s actually pretty hard to

of them it’s actually pretty hard to

of them it’s actually pretty hard to find anything from this decade that sort

find anything from this decade that sort

find anything from this decade that sort of makes that top 50 because most of

of makes that top 50 because most of

of makes that top 50 because most of this stuff has been around for quite

this stuff has been around for quite

this stuff has been around for quite some time even things like Netflix or

some time even things like Netflix or

some time even things like Netflix or whatsapp so that you think are quite new

whatsapp so that you think are quite new

whatsapp so that you think are quite new or actually like 8 9 10 years old and so

or actually like 8 9 10 years old and so

or actually like 8 9 10 years old and so it kind of begs the question if there’s

it kind of begs the question if there’s

it kind of begs the question if there’s a major revolution happening right now

a major revolution happening right now

a major revolution happening right now in artificial intelligence then where is

in artificial intelligence then where is

in artificial intelligence then where is this manifesting in the world that we

this manifesting in the world that we

this manifesting in the world that we see around us and you know this is the

see around us and you know this is the

see around us and you know this is the decade where we’ve seen all the

decade where we’ve seen all the

decade where we’ve seen all the superficial ease of quite major

superficial ease of quite major

superficial ease of quite major achievements so 2011 saw IBM’s Watson

achievements so 2011 saw IBM’s Watson

achievements so 2011 saw IBM’s Watson defeating their human champion at the

defeating their human champion at the

defeating their human champion at the Jeopardy for the first time the year

Jeopardy for the first time the year

Jeopardy for the first time the year after that was that are sort of dawn of

after that was that are sort of dawn of

after that was that are sort of dawn of the the kind of deep learning era when

the the kind of deep learning era when

the the kind of deep learning era when there were major breakthroughs in image

there were major breakthroughs in image

there were major breakthroughs in image classification and natural language

classification and natural language

classification and natural language processor and on the back of that in

processor and on the back of that in

processor and on the back of that in 2016 we had alphago beating a human

2016 we had alphago beating a human

2016 we had alphago beating a human player at go while sorry the human

player at go while sorry the human

player at go while sorry the human champion at go for the first time so

champion at go for the first time so

champion at go for the first time so that you know there’s this weird sort of

that you know there’s this weird sort of

that you know there’s this weird sort of dichotomy between these on one hand sort

dichotomy between these on one hand sort

dichotomy between these on one hand sort of major advances and sort of challenges

of major advances and sort of challenges

of major advances and sort of challenges being met and on the other hand this

being met and on the other hand this

being met and on the other hand this sort of lack of this stuff filtering

sort of lack of this stuff filtering

sort of lack of this stuff filtering through to the rest of the world and

through to the rest of the world and

through to the rest of the world and even this year we found that with both

even this year we found that with both

even this year we found that with both IBM and with deep mind there’s a kind of

IBM and with deep mind there’s a kind of

IBM and with deep mind there’s a kind of growing skepticism about their ability

growing skepticism about their ability

growing skepticism about their ability to take some of these technologies and

to take some of these technologies and

to take some of these technologies and actually do some of the things that they

actually do some of the things that they

actually do some of the things that they claim they’d be able to do in industry

claim they’d be able to do in industry

claim they’d be able to do in industry in government in society and I could

in government in society and I could

in government in society and I could spend all afternoon kind of it’s racing

spend all afternoon kind of it’s racing

spend all afternoon kind of it’s racing through all the various legal ethical

through all the various legal ethical

through all the various legal ethical technical data problems that these

technical data problems that these

technical data problems that these companies have had but I would get

companies have had but I would get

companies have had but I would get kicked off stage at some point but it

kicked off stage at some point but it

kicked off stage at some point but it all kind of boils down to a single kind

all kind of boils down to a single kind

all kind of boils down to a single kind of insight which is that it turns out

of insight which is that it turns out

of insight which is that it turns out that it may well be the running a kind

that it may well be the running a kind

that it may well be the running a kind of messy complex human system like the

of messy complex human system like the

of messy complex human system like the NHS is actually a lot more difficult

NHS is actually a lot more difficult

NHS is actually a lot more difficult than playing a board game now you may

than playing a board game now you may

than playing a board game now you may say but that’s slightly unfair that was

say but that’s slightly unfair that was

say but that’s slightly unfair that was sort of picking on the moon shots on the

sort of picking on the moon shots on the

sort of picking on the moon shots on the really sort of you know high-end kind

really sort of you know high-end kind

really sort of you know high-end kind abstracts and what about the sort of

abstracts and what about the sort of

abstracts and what about the sort of steady improvements that are being made

steady improvements that are being made

steady improvements that are being made by machine learning by AI and the tools

by machine learning by AI and the tools

by machine learning by AI and the tools that we use every day but even here if

that we use every day but even here if

that we use every day but even here if we look at some of the sort of major

we look at some of the sort of major

we look at some of the sort of major companies in the field if we take

companies in the field if we take

companies in the field if we take facebook for example this is an advert

facebook for example this is an advert

facebook for example this is an advert that I was served last week for height

that I was served last week for height

that I was served last week for height boosting shoes and to be honest that six

boosting shoes and to be honest that six

boosting shoes and to be honest that six will one I think I’ve already got a

will one I think I’ve already got a

will one I think I’ve already got a surplus of height if anything I need

surplus of height if anything I need

surplus of height if anything I need much more and yeah you know Facebook’s

much more and yeah you know Facebook’s

much more and yeah you know Facebook’s entire business is effectively

entire business is effectively

entire business is effectively advertising in terms of revenue and so

advertising in terms of revenue and so

advertising in terms of revenue and so you would think that if major advances

you would think that if major advances

you would think that if major advances were being made there were filtering

were being made there were filtering

were being made there were filtering through to their products this would be

through to their products this would be

through to their products this would be one of the first places that we’d see it

one of the first places that we’d see it

one of the first places that we’d see it and yet we still regularly served

and yet we still regularly served

and yet we still regularly served adverts that gb/s our best most often

adverts that gb/s our best most often

adverts that gb/s our best most often for things that you bought last week

for things that you bought last week

for things that you bought last week Google has many of the same problems

Google has many of the same problems

Google has many of the same problems when you look at the products and you

when you look at the products and you

when you look at the products and you look at some of the decisions their

look at some of the decisions their

look at some of the decisions their algorithms are not necessarily that

algorithms are not necessarily that

algorithms are not necessarily that smart this was the top stories

smart this was the top stories

smart this was the top stories highlighted during the Las Vegas

highlighted during the Las Vegas

highlighted during the Las Vegas shooting last month and obviously 4chan

shooting last month and obviously 4chan

shooting last month and obviously 4chan popping up in the results there with

popping up in the results there with

popping up in the results there with some completely dodgy stuff but also

some completely dodgy stuff but also

some completely dodgy stuff but also pressed Evo an Iranian propaganda outlet

pressed Evo an Iranian propaganda outlet

pressed Evo an Iranian propaganda outlet so there’s this real sort of disparity

so there’s this real sort of disparity

so there’s this real sort of disparity between the technology that the people

between the technology that the people

between the technology that the people are talking about what we’re actually

are talking about what we’re actually

are talking about what we’re actually seeing there are better examples and you

seeing there are better examples and you

seeing there are better examples and you know people point to things like

know people point to things like

know people point to things like self-driving cars for example or the

self-driving cars for example or the

self-driving cars for example or the rise of voice-activated personal

rise of voice-activated personal

rise of voice-activated personal assistants but when we start breaking

assistants but when we start breaking

assistants but when we start breaking down the advances that make those

down the advances that make those

down the advances that make those technologies possible it’s not

technologies possible it’s not

technologies possible it’s not necessarily improvements in intelligence

necessarily improvements in intelligence

necessarily improvements in intelligence that have enabled them often it’s things

that have enabled them often it’s things

that have enabled them often it’s things like in the case of self-driving car

like in the case of self-driving car

like in the case of self-driving car seat advances in lidar sensors and the

seat advances in lidar sensors and the

seat advances in lidar sensors and the various other sensors that are used if

various other sensors that are used if

various other sensors that are used if you look at Syria or Alexa actually

you look at Syria or Alexa actually

you look at Syria or Alexa actually improvements in microphone technology

improvements in microphone technology

improvements in microphone technology and miniaturization of helped to move

and miniaturization of helped to move

and miniaturization of helped to move them faster than improvements in how

them faster than improvements in how

them faster than improvements in how bases being processed um now all of this

bases being processed um now all of this

bases being processed um now all of this sounds a little bit negative and it’s

sounds a little bit negative and it’s

sounds a little bit negative and it’s not like I’m trying to suggest here that

not like I’m trying to suggest here that

not like I’m trying to suggest here that machine learning is useless or the

machine learning is useless or the

machine learning is useless or the reponses aren’t being made or the deep

reponses aren’t being made or the deep

reponses aren’t being made or the deep learning doesn’t ultimately have the

learning doesn’t ultimately have the

learning doesn’t ultimately have the potential to change the world but it

potential to change the world but it

potential to change the world but it feels like we’re so busy banging on

feels like we’re so busy banging on

feels like we’re so busy banging on about what might

about what might

about what might than in 30 years or 50 years of 70 years

than in 30 years or 50 years of 70 years

than in 30 years or 50 years of 70 years time that we’re not really giving people

time that we’re not really giving people

time that we’re not really giving people a sort of sensible or fair assessment of

a sort of sensible or fair assessment of

a sort of sensible or fair assessment of what’s happening right now and that’s

what’s happening right now and that’s

what’s happening right now and that’s bad for investors it’s bad for customers

bad for investors it’s bad for customers

bad for investors it’s bad for customers it’s bad for public understanding and

it’s bad for public understanding and

it’s bad for public understanding and it’s bad for policy based on this stuff

it’s bad for policy based on this stuff

it’s bad for policy based on this stuff and so in a way this is kind of like the

and so in a way this is kind of like the

and so in a way this is kind of like the an seats head silk in the sense that a

an seats head silk in the sense that a

an seats head silk in the sense that a lot of people like to come up and kind

lot of people like to come up and kind

lot of people like to come up and kind of sell you an amazing vision of what

of sell you an amazing vision of what

of sell you an amazing vision of what the world might be like in the future

the world might be like in the future

the world might be like in the future and what I’m kind of saying here is

and what I’m kind of saying here is

and what I’m kind of saying here is let’s stop banging on about the future

let’s stop banging on about the future

let’s stop banging on about the future quite so much that maybe focus a little

quite so much that maybe focus a little

quite so much that maybe focus a little bit more on the challenges and problems

bit more on the challenges and problems

bit more on the challenges and problems that we have right now because there’s

that we have right now because there’s

that we have right now because there’s plenty of them and well I’d say to

plenty of them and well I’d say to

plenty of them and well I’d say to anyone if you’re worried that an AI is

anyone if you’re worried that an AI is

anyone if you’re worried that an AI is going to steal your job in the next few

going to steal your job in the next few

going to steal your job in the next few years then just take a look at some of

years then just take a look at some of

years then just take a look at some of the products in the world around you and

the products in the world around you and

the products in the world around you and I think you’ll find there still

I think you’ll find there still

I think you’ll find there still reassuringly crap

reassuringly crap

reassuringly crap [Music]

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