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good morning I recently visited Yemen

good morning I recently visited Yemen and in Yemen I met a young woman called

and in Yemen I met a young woman called

and in Yemen I met a young woman called Amina she was in her early 20s she

Amina she was in her early 20s she

Amina she was in her early 20s she looked a lot older than those of you in

looked a lot older than those of you in

looked a lot older than those of you in the audience she felt the cares of the

the audience she felt the cares of the

the audience she felt the cares of the world she was the sole carer for her two

world she was the sole carer for her two

world she was the sole carer for her two younger siblings she worked when she

younger siblings she worked when she

younger siblings she worked when she could in her neighbours farms fields in

could in her neighbours farms fields in

could in her neighbours farms fields in their houses but she had no reliable

their houses but she had no reliable

their houses but she had no reliable source of income she often didn’t know

source of income she often didn’t know

source of income she often didn’t know where the next meal was coming from and

where the next meal was coming from and

where the next meal was coming from and she often went to bed hungry she and her

she often went to bed hungry she and her

she often went to bed hungry she and her siblings are not alone

siblings are not alone

siblings are not alone tonight about eight hundred million

tonight about eight hundred million

tonight about eight hundred million people will go to bed hungry let’s just

people will go to bed hungry let’s just

people will go to bed hungry let’s just bring that alive can I ask the people in

bring that alive can I ask the people in

bring that alive can I ask the people in the front two rows there just to stand

the front two rows there just to stand

the front two rows there just to stand up if this was the world those people in

up if this was the world those people in

up if this was the world those people in front of you would be going to bed

front of you would be going to bed

front of you would be going to bed hungry tonight if they were as close to

hungry tonight if they were as close to

hungry tonight if they were as close to us as they are we would struggle with

us as they are we would struggle with

us as they are we would struggle with that we will struggle with that sense of

that we will struggle with that sense of

that we will struggle with that sense of shared humanity but equally tonight

shared humanity but equally tonight

shared humanity but equally tonight eight people will sleep rather better

eight people will sleep rather better

eight people will sleep rather better let me ask the people here in the second

let me ask the people here in the second

let me ask the people here in the second row and third row and fourth row to

row and third row and fourth row to

row and third row and fourth row to stand up now people here doesn’t mean

stand up now people here doesn’t mean

stand up now people here doesn’t mean women the women would sit down we have

women the women would sit down we have

women the women would sit down we have roughly eight people standing up there

roughly eight people standing up there

roughly eight people standing up there now those eight people those eight men

now those eight people those eight men

now those eight people those eight men have the same wealth not just as the

have the same wealth not just as the

have the same wealth not just as the people in this room or in Manchester or

people in this room or in Manchester or

people in this room or in Manchester or even in the United Kingdom those men

even in the United Kingdom those men

even in the United Kingdom those men have the same wealth as half the world’s

have the same wealth as half the world’s

have the same wealth as half the world’s population now when you have inequality

population now when you have inequality

population now when you have inequality like that what kind of planet are we

like that what kind of planet are we

like that what kind of planet are we creating what kind of economy

creating what kind of economy

creating what kind of economy are we running now some people would say

are we running now some people would say

are we running now some people would say organizations like Oxfam shouldn’t worry

organizations like Oxfam shouldn’t worry

organizations like Oxfam shouldn’t worry about those eight we should worry about

about those eight we should worry about

about those eight we should worry about the poor we should recognize that those

the poor we should recognize that those

the poor we should recognize that those eight and millions like them actually

eight and millions like them actually

eight and millions like them actually are generating wealth and that wealth

are generating wealth and that wealth

are generating wealth and that wealth has played an amazing part in taking

has played an amazing part in taking

has played an amazing part in taking people across the world out of poverty

people across the world out of poverty

people across the world out of poverty now let’s celebrate that in the last

now let’s celebrate that in the last

now let’s celebrate that in the last thirty years the world has taken more

thirty years the world has taken more

thirty years the world has taken more people out of extreme poverty than in

people out of extreme poverty than in

people out of extreme poverty than in the previous hit known history and

the previous hit known history and

the previous hit known history and that’s not just about money it’s about

that’s not just about money it’s about

that’s not just about money it’s about children going to school it’s about

children going to school it’s about

children going to school it’s about people getting immunization it’s about

people getting immunization it’s about

people getting immunization it’s about families living longer the world is a

families living longer the world is a

families living longer the world is a better place for most people but it is

better place for most people but it is

better place for most people but it is leaving behind a population roughly the

leaving behind a population roughly the

leaving behind a population roughly the size of Europe 800 million people living

size of Europe 800 million people living

size of Europe 800 million people living in extreme poverty and we need to look

in extreme poverty and we need to look

in extreme poverty and we need to look at why that is and what we can do to

at why that is and what we can do to

at why that is and what we can do to catch up because of course those eight

catch up because of course those eight

catch up because of course those eight people are often very generous they are

people are often very generous they are

people are often very generous they are creating wealth and many of them as

creating wealth and many of them as

creating wealth and many of them as individuals are philanthropic but that

individuals are philanthropic but that

individuals are philanthropic but that doesn’t feel enough instinctively it

doesn’t feel enough instinctively it

doesn’t feel enough instinctively it feels there’s something wrong there it’s

feels there’s something wrong there it’s

feels there’s something wrong there it’s not only us who feels that in one of his

not only us who feels that in one of his

not only us who feels that in one of his final speeches Barack Obama echoed

final speeches Barack Obama echoed

final speeches Barack Obama echoed Oxfam’s research and said it’s not

Oxfam’s research and said it’s not

Oxfam’s research and said it’s not possible to have a stable world in which

possible to have a stable world in which

possible to have a stable world in which 1% of the world’s population have

1% of the world’s population have

1% of the world’s population have greater wealth than the other 99%

greater wealth than the other 99%

greater wealth than the other 99% combined and it’s not only President

combined and it’s not only President

combined and it’s not only President Obama academics from all sorts of

Obama academics from all sorts of

Obama academics from all sorts of different schools and disciplines have

different schools and disciplines have

different schools and disciplines have identified that in extremely unequal

identified that in extremely unequal

identified that in extremely unequal societies they are more violent the more

societies they are more violent the more

societies they are more violent the more conflict prone there is more civil

conflict prone there is more civil

conflict prone there is more civil unrest people live shorter lives they’re

unrest people live shorter lives they’re

unrest people live shorter lives they’re less healthy they’re less happy and they

less healthy they’re less happy and they

less healthy they’re less happy and they have less confidence in their future so

have less confidence in their future so

have less confidence in their future so we need to build an economy that

we need to build an economy that

we need to build an economy that actually challenges that an Oxfam got

actually challenges that an Oxfam got

actually challenges that an Oxfam got really interested in looking at the

really interested in looking at the

really interested in looking at the aftermath of the economic crash

aftermath of the economic crash

aftermath of the economic crash 2008 and who was benefiting and who

2008 and who was benefiting and who

2008 and who was benefiting and who wasn’t and we found buried deep in a

wasn’t and we found buried deep in a

wasn’t and we found buried deep in a report not by a radical campaigning

report not by a radical campaigning

report not by a radical campaigning agency but by one of our most

agency but by one of our most

agency but by one of our most prestigious international banks Credit

prestigious international banks Credit

prestigious international banks Credit Suisse the statistic that 1% of wealth

Suisse the statistic that 1% of wealth

Suisse the statistic that 1% of wealth 1% was all that was owned by the bottom

1% was all that was owned by the bottom

1% was all that was owned by the bottom half of the world’s population we

half of the world’s population we

half of the world’s population we identified that 85 people had the same

identified that 85 people had the same

identified that 85 people had the same of as that three and a half billion

of as that three and a half billion

of as that three and a half billion people and over the last four or five

people and over the last four or five

people and over the last four or five years albeit with methodological changes

years albeit with methodological changes

years albeit with methodological changes that figure has moved from enough people

that figure has moved from enough people

that figure has moved from enough people to get into a double-decker bus to

to get into a double-decker bus to

to get into a double-decker bus to enough people to get into a golf buggy

enough people to get into a golf buggy

enough people to get into a golf buggy eight people now have the same wealth as

eight people now have the same wealth as

eight people now have the same wealth as half the world’s population now what’s

half the world’s population now what’s

half the world’s population now what’s driving an economy that lets that happen

driving an economy that lets that happen

driving an economy that lets that happen we think it’s to do with our basic

we think it’s to do with our basic

we think it’s to do with our basic economic model we think it’s to do with

economic model we think it’s to do with

economic model we think it’s to do with that model based on rational economic

that model based on rational economic

that model based on rational economic man yes man that says everyone will act

man yes man that says everyone will act

man yes man that says everyone will act in their own best interest and that

in their own best interest and that

in their own best interest and that those interests will come together and

those interests will come together and

those interests will come together and they’ll shape economic prosperity well

they’ll shape economic prosperity well

they’ll shape economic prosperity well there’s four main flaws in that kind of

there’s four main flaws in that kind of

there’s four main flaws in that kind of thinking the first is that those

thinking the first is that those

thinking the first is that those economic figures don’t really describe

economic figures don’t really describe

economic figures don’t really describe human activity as we know it while Adam

human activity as we know it while Adam

human activity as we know it while Adam Smith was writing The Wealth of Nations

Smith was writing The Wealth of Nations

Smith was writing The Wealth of Nations who was cooking his lunch it was

who was cooking his lunch it was

who was cooking his lunch it was probably his wife mrs. Smith nicely

probably his wife mrs. Smith nicely

probably his wife mrs. Smith nicely cutting off the stalks of the broccoli

cutting off the stalks of the broccoli

cutting off the stalks of the broccoli just as he likes it

just as he likes it

just as he likes it who’s measuring the care the compassion

who’s measuring the care the compassion

who’s measuring the care the compassion the loves that affect what we all do

the loves that affect what we all do

the loves that affect what we all do every day that means that care work is

every day that means that care work is

every day that means that care work is not paid not valued in economic models

not paid not valued in economic models

not paid not valued in economic models and when it is paid it’s paid at minimal

and when it is paid it’s paid at minimal

and when it is paid it’s paid at minimal levels the second issue is that kind of

levels the second issue is that kind of

levels the second issue is that kind of classical economics ignored power the

classical economics ignored power the

classical economics ignored power the power of wealth to influence to advocate

power of wealth to influence to advocate

power of wealth to influence to advocate to get access to government’s and in

to get access to government’s and in

to get access to government’s and in many cases to form those very

many cases to form those very

many cases to form those very governments

governments

governments we shouldn’t then be surprised when

we shouldn’t then be surprised when

we shouldn’t then be surprised when those governments right across the world

those governments right across the world

those governments right across the world act in the interests of the wealthy the

act in the interests of the wealthy the

act in the interests of the wealthy the third is that that kind of classical

third is that that kind of classical

third is that that kind of classical economics ignores the finite boundaries

economics ignores the finite boundaries

economics ignores the finite boundaries of our planet we can double our GNP if

of our planet we can double our GNP if

of our planet we can double our GNP if we cut down our forests but what are we

we cut down our forests but what are we

we cut down our forests but what are we doing for us successive generations and

doing for us successive generations and

doing for us successive generations and how are we measuring pollution and

how are we measuring pollution and

how are we measuring pollution and carbon and all those other things that

carbon and all those other things that

carbon and all those other things that affect our well-being and finally

affect our well-being and finally

affect our well-being and finally classical economics looking totals

classical economics looking totals

classical economics looking totals growth averages ignores the poor they

growth averages ignores the poor they

growth averages ignores the poor they don’t have enough wealth to figure in

don’t have enough wealth to figure in

don’t have enough wealth to figure in those stats and the eight people and the

those stats and the eight people and the

those stats and the eight people and the one percent totally dwarfed their

one percent totally dwarfed their

one percent totally dwarfed their contributions so from that point of view

contributions so from that point of view

contributions so from that point of view we need to look differently we need to

we need to look differently we need to

we need to look differently we need to shape an approach to economics that says

shape an approach to economics that says

shape an approach to economics that says how do we work from the bottom up how do

how do we work from the bottom up how do

how do we work from the bottom up how do we shape an economy not just that allows

we shape an economy not just that allows

we shape an economy not just that allows some of that wealth to trickle down to

some of that wealth to trickle down to

some of that wealth to trickle down to the poor but exists to eradicate poverty

the poor but exists to eradicate poverty

the poor but exists to eradicate poverty and ensure that people can live with

and ensure that people can live with

and ensure that people can live with dignity we need to do that by wrestling

dignity we need to do that by wrestling

dignity we need to do that by wrestling back the power over our own economy of

back the power over our own economy of

back the power over our own economy of our own politics

our own politics

our own politics it’s been done before it sounds hard but

it’s been done before it sounds hard but

it’s been done before it sounds hard but it’s been done over centuries since the

it’s been done over centuries since the

it’s been done over centuries since the Magna Carta with ordinary people pulling

Magna Carta with ordinary people pulling

Magna Carta with ordinary people pulling back power from the Divine Right of

back power from the Divine Right of

back power from the Divine Right of Kings it’s been done over the last

Kings it’s been done over the last

Kings it’s been done over the last century or biet only partially as women

century or biet only partially as women

century or biet only partially as women have pulled back power from men in the

have pulled back power from men in the

have pulled back power from men in the public space and said we want to share

public space and said we want to share

public space and said we want to share that we want the jobs we want the pay we

that we want the jobs we want the pay we

that we want the jobs we want the pay we want the representation a journey still

want the representation a journey still

want the representation a journey still in progress and it’s been done in recent

in progress and it’s been done in recent

in progress and it’s been done in recent decades where lesbian and gay people

decades where lesbian and gay people

decades where lesbian and gay people have wrestled back the right the

have wrestled back the right the

have wrestled back the right the apparent right to enjoy family life

apparent right to enjoy family life

apparent right to enjoy family life relationships love marriage in public

relationships love marriage in public

relationships love marriage in public from the straight population we need to

from the straight population we need to

from the straight population we need to do that with economics and we need to do

do that with economics and we need to do

do that with economics and we need to do it quickly we have 800 million people

it quickly we have 800 million people

it quickly we have 800 million people living in extreme poverty and many many

living in extreme poverty and many many

living in extreme poverty and many many more just above that threshold

more just above that threshold

more just above that threshold so what do we need to do to do it let’s

so what do we need to do to do it let’s

so what do we need to do to do it let’s be clear this isn’t just a set of policy

be clear this isn’t just a set of policy

be clear this isn’t just a set of policy prescriptions

prescriptions

prescriptions it’s the way we disrupt our economy it’s

it’s the way we disrupt our economy it’s

it’s the way we disrupt our economy it’s the way we think about economics we need

the way we think about economics we need

the way we think about economics we need to look at the way we trade across the

to look at the way we trade across the

to look at the way we trade across the world because everything we buy or sell

world because everything we buy or sell

world because everything we buy or sell is linked to other parts of the world we

is linked to other parts of the world we

is linked to other parts of the world we need to look at the way migration works

need to look at the way migration works

need to look at the way migration works for poorer people we need to look at tax

for poorer people we need to look at tax

for poorer people we need to look at tax nationally and internationally

nationally and internationally

nationally and internationally it’s the biggest businesses and the

it’s the biggest businesses and the

it’s the biggest businesses and the richest people not just the eight this

richest people not just the eight this

richest people not just the eight this isn’t about the eight it’s about a wider

isn’t about the eight it’s about a wider

isn’t about the eight it’s about a wider approach to economics about the way tax

approach to economics about the way tax

approach to economics about the way tax is paid why is it that the richest can

is paid why is it that the richest can

is paid why is it that the richest can move their money around so either it’s

move their money around so either it’s

move their money around so either it’s not seen or taxes paid at the lowest

not seen or taxes paid at the lowest

not seen or taxes paid at the lowest possible level why is it that Warren

possible level why is it that Warren

possible level why is it that Warren Buffett one of the richest men in the

Buffett one of the richest men in the

Buffett one of the richest men in the world asked is it really right that I

world asked is it really right that I

world asked is it really right that I seem to pay tax at a lower rate than my

seem to pay tax at a lower rate than my

seem to pay tax at a lower rate than my secretary we then need to look at

secretary we then need to look at

secretary we then need to look at spending that tax on public services

spending that tax on public services

spending that tax on public services because it’s those public services that

because it’s those public services that

because it’s those public services that make all the difference to people living

make all the difference to people living

make all the difference to people living in poverty education health basic

in poverty education health basic

in poverty education health basic infrastructure we need to look at the

infrastructure we need to look at the

infrastructure we need to look at the way we pay a living wage right across

way we pay a living wage right across

way we pay a living wage right across the world it really hurts to be part of

the world it really hurts to be part of

the world it really hurts to be part of an economy where the people who are

an economy where the people who are

an economy where the people who are producing the basic goods and services

producing the basic goods and services

producing the basic goods and services that we consume every day get and expect

that we consume every day get and expect

that we consume every day get and expect to get and we all live with the fact

to get and we all live with the fact

to get and we all live with the fact that they get a lower wage than they

that they get a lower wage than they

that they get a lower wage than they need to survive and this has to be

need to survive and this has to be

need to survive and this has to be supplemented by extra work by benefits

supplemented by extra work by benefits

supplemented by extra work by benefits or in the case of people like Amina by

or in the case of people like Amina by

or in the case of people like Amina by going hungry those are the sorts of

going hungry those are the sorts of

going hungry those are the sorts of things we’ve got to work on and look at

things we’ve got to work on and look at

things we’ve got to work on and look at differently we also need to look at the

differently we also need to look at the

differently we also need to look at the way we embrace our planet and we factor

way we embrace our planet and we factor

way we embrace our planet and we factor in those issues of where is our power

in those issues of where is our power

in those issues of where is our power coming from how it is it affecting

coming from how it is it affecting

coming from how it is it affecting future generations the way we embrace

future generations the way we embrace

future generations the way we embrace technology at its best its life

technology at its best its life

technology at its best its life transforming for all of us at its worst

transforming for all of us at its worst

transforming for all of us at its worst it’s taking jobs away from poor people

it’s taking jobs away from poor people

it’s taking jobs away from poor people and it was Bill Gates one of the richest

and it was Bill Gates one of the richest

and it was Bill Gates one of the richest men in the world who actually said

men in the world who actually said

men in the world who actually said should we be considering attacks on

should we be considering attacks on

should we be considering attacks on robots in the workplace not because

robots in the workplace not because

robots in the workplace not because they’re wrong but because who is going

they’re wrong but because who is going

they’re wrong but because who is going to be paying the taxes that actually

to be paying the taxes that actually

to be paying the taxes that actually contribute to running those basic

contribute to running those basic

contribute to running those basic services that make a difference for the

services that make a difference for the

services that make a difference for the whole population we need to look at our

whole population we need to look at our

whole population we need to look at our corporate models we need successful

corporate models we need successful

corporate models we need successful business to drive the economy we need

business to drive the economy we need

business to drive the economy we need jobs we need investment and for that we

jobs we need investment and for that we

jobs we need investment and for that we need to take risks and meet people need

need to take risks and meet people need

need to take risks and meet people need to make a profit

to make a profit

to make a profit that has been a central part of the

that has been a central part of the

that has been a central part of the economic progress and the well-being

economic progress and the well-being

economic progress and the well-being that has increased in recent generations

that has increased in recent generations

that has increased in recent generations but do we really need a model where only

but do we really need a model where only

but do we really need a model where only shareholders and owners capture such a

shareholders and owners capture such a

shareholders and owners capture such a high proportion of the benefits can’t we

high proportion of the benefits can’t we

high proportion of the benefits can’t we look at different economic models and

look at different economic models and

look at different economic models and can’t we promote those models where the

can’t we promote those models where the

can’t we promote those models where the community in which those businesses

community in which those businesses

community in which those businesses exist the employees the customers share

exist the employees the customers share

exist the employees the customers share in its welfare if profits and its

in its welfare if profits and its

in its welfare if profits and its contribution much more fully there’s

contribution much more fully there’s

contribution much more fully there’s many different ways there’s many

many different ways there’s many

many different ways there’s many different policies we could pick up and

different policies we could pick up and

different policies we could pick up and we could address if we look at them

we could address if we look at them

we could address if we look at them through the perspective of what’s their

through the perspective of what’s their

through the perspective of what’s their impact on women and what’s their impact

impact on women and what’s their impact

impact on women and what’s their impact on men we will get a very different lens

on men we will get a very different lens

on men we will get a very different lens on the development we need to promote

on the development we need to promote

on the development we need to promote you would all have different views about

you would all have different views about

you would all have different views about what the right policies might be what’s

what the right policies might be what’s

what the right policies might be what’s absolutely clear is we can’t do nothing

absolutely clear is we can’t do nothing

absolutely clear is we can’t do nothing economic growth is slowing across the

economic growth is slowing across the

economic growth is slowing across the world and even at its best

world and even at its best

world and even at its best we’ll leave many of those 800 million

we’ll leave many of those 800 million

we’ll leave many of those 800 million out of it altogether

out of it altogether

out of it altogether we need a rising tide that will lift all

we need a rising tide that will lift all

we need a rising tide that will lift all boats not just the soup yacht sailing

boats not just the soup yacht sailing

boats not just the soup yacht sailing away the sailing boats following behind

away the sailing boats following behind

away the sailing boats following behind them more slowly and some of the rafts

them more slowly and some of the rafts

them more slowly and some of the rafts and canoes of the poorest s– getting

and canoes of the poorest s– getting

and canoes of the poorest s– getting flooded as the waters come in so we need

flooded as the waters come in so we need

flooded as the waters come in so we need to look at how we consume who do we buy

to look at how we consume who do we buy

to look at how we consume who do we buy from do we take notes in this

from do we take notes in this

from do we take notes in this international trade of the ethics of the

international trade of the ethics of the

international trade of the ethics of the very companies we’re working with

very companies we’re working with

very companies we’re working with do we talk to our politicians about the

do we talk to our politicians about the

do we talk to our politicians about the issues that we care about they get

issues that we care about they get

issues that we care about they get overwhelmed with lobbying on some issues

overwhelmed with lobbying on some issues

overwhelmed with lobbying on some issues but they’re not hearing much about those

but they’re not hearing much about those

but they’re not hearing much about those fundamental issues of an economy a human

fundamental issues of an economy a human

fundamental issues of an economy a human economy that benefits poor people indeed

economy that benefits poor people indeed

economy that benefits poor people indeed which of those politicians locally and

which of those politicians locally and

which of those politicians locally and nationally are we voting for when the

nationally are we voting for when the

nationally are we voting for when the time comes but most of all we need to

time comes but most of all we need to

time comes but most of all we need to look at our own behavior it’s our own

look at our own behavior it’s our own

look at our own behavior it’s our own values it’s the way we live our daily

values it’s the way we live our daily

values it’s the way we live our daily life the way we bring up and relate to

life the way we bring up and relate to

life the way we bring up and relate to our family our friends our work our

our family our friends our work our

our family our friends our work our lives that will make a change to whether

lives that will make a change to whether

lives that will make a change to whether we can build a human economy that would

we can build a human economy that would

we can build a human economy that would not be an economy for the 1% it would

not be an economy for the 1% it would

not be an economy for the 1% it would not be an economy even for the 99% it

not be an economy even for the 99% it

not be an economy even for the 99% it would be an economy for the

would be an economy for the

would be an economy for the hundred-percent a human economy thank

hundred-percent a human economy thank

hundred-percent a human economy thank you

you

you [Applause]

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