this is a memoir of 17 years in the Muslim world a world which has become
Muslim world a world which has become
Muslim world a world which has become part of my life marked by enduring
part of my life marked by enduring
part of my life marked by enduring friendships and indelible memories I
tend to be soft-spoken I don’t know
tend to be soft-spoken I don’t know whether that helps me not sometimes
whether that helps me not sometimes
whether that helps me not sometimes people misunderstand it as weakness but
people misunderstand it as weakness but
people misunderstand it as weakness but they’d be making mistake I used to cover
they’d be making mistake I used to cover
they’d be making mistake I used to cover revolutions and civil wars and whatnot I
revolutions and civil wars and whatnot I
revolutions and civil wars and whatnot I was fascinated with what people will do
was fascinated with what people will do
was fascinated with what people will do to change their situation in life and to
to change their situation in life and to
to change their situation in life and to fight for freedom or to fight against an
fight for freedom or to fight against an
fight for freedom or to fight against an army or government and it didn’t matter
army or government and it didn’t matter
army or government and it didn’t matter to me what the ideology was I wasn’t
to me what the ideology was I wasn’t
to me what the ideology was I wasn’t interested in ideology per se I was
interested in ideology per se I was
interested in ideology per se I was interested in the human spirit
now I’m more interested in how a country
now I’m more interested in how a country deals with change after a revolution or
deals with change after a revolution or
deals with change after a revolution or after a civil war
we’re on this planet with all these
we’re on this planet with all these other people and we need to engage
other people and we need to engage
other people and we need to engage rather than to shut other cultures and
rather than to shut other cultures and
rather than to shut other cultures and other peoples and situations off it’s
other peoples and situations off it’s
other peoples and situations off it’s important to have continued deepened
important to have continued deepened
important to have continued deepened understanding I was raised in a showbiz
understanding I was raised in a showbiz
understanding I was raised in a showbiz family in Manhattan in Malibu California
family in Manhattan in Malibu California
family in Manhattan in Malibu California and it was an exciting life full of
and it was an exciting life full of
and it was an exciting life full of cutting edge artistic culture and a lot
cutting edge artistic culture and a lot
cutting edge artistic culture and a lot of freedom so much more and I left that
of freedom so much more and I left that
of freedom so much more and I left that life to be engaged in what what’s
life to be engaged in what what’s
life to be engaged in what what’s happening in the world
happening in the world
happening in the world and to travel far and deeply as a
and to travel far and deeply as a
and to travel far and deeply as a photojournalist
photojournalist
photojournalist this book is not meant to represent all
this book is not meant to represent all
this book is not meant to represent all Muslims everywhere I’m not an expert on
Muslims everywhere I’m not an expert on
Muslims everywhere I’m not an expert on Islam and it’s just what I saw and
Islam and it’s just what I saw and
Islam and it’s just what I saw and experienced during my travels in these
experienced during my travels in these
experienced during my travels in these places so here I hope to share a wider
places so here I hope to share a wider
places so here I hope to share a wider view of a group of people much
view of a group of people much
view of a group of people much misunderstood especially since 9/11 ok
misunderstood especially since 9/11 ok
misunderstood especially since 9/11 ok well let me take you on this journey I
well let me take you on this journey I
well let me take you on this journey I lived in Gaza for about two years I
lived in Gaza for about two years I
lived in Gaza for about two years I covered the first Palestinian Intifada
covered the first Palestinian Intifada
covered the first Palestinian Intifada for seven years and this is I’m just
for seven years and this is I’m just
for seven years and this is I’m just scouting for pictures here in the rain
scouting for pictures here in the rain
scouting for pictures here in the rain in the winter it’s quite lonely living
in the winter it’s quite lonely living
in the winter it’s quite lonely living in Gaza sometimes this is a contact
in Gaza sometimes this is a contact
in Gaza sometimes this is a contact sheet from a graveyard in Somalia Time
sheet from a graveyard in Somalia Time
sheet from a graveyard in Somalia Time magazine had me there for a little over
magazine had me there for a little over
magazine had me there for a little over five months in the Horn of Africa
five months in the Horn of Africa
five months in the Horn of Africa Somalia and the Sudan this is a boy from
Somalia and the Sudan this is a boy from
Somalia and the Sudan this is a boy from that graveyard this is just out
that graveyard this is just out
that graveyard this is just out ayatollah khomeini’s home in tehran in
ayatollah khomeini’s home in tehran in
ayatollah khomeini’s home in tehran in 1989 just after he died and I couldn’t I
1989 just after he died and I couldn’t I
1989 just after he died and I couldn’t I have relatives in Iran but I couldn’t
have relatives in Iran but I couldn’t
have relatives in Iran but I couldn’t look them up I couldn’t I was forbidden
look them up I couldn’t I was forbidden
look them up I couldn’t I was forbidden by my family in New York actually to
by my family in New York actually to
by my family in New York actually to look them up because it would have been
look them up because it would have been
look them up because it would have been dangerous for them at that time I
dangerous for them at that time I
dangerous for them at that time I traveled widely in Saddam’s Iraq it was
traveled widely in Saddam’s Iraq it was
traveled widely in Saddam’s Iraq it was a fear soaked universe with informants
a fear soaked universe with informants
a fear soaked universe with informants everywhere and this is a double exposure
everywhere and this is a double exposure
everywhere and this is a double exposure from Iraq this is the Catholic Church
from Iraq this is the Catholic Church
from Iraq this is the Catholic Church and a Muslim family at the end of the
and a Muslim family at the end of the
and a Muslim family at the end of the day relaxing na bliss in the West Bank
day relaxing na bliss in the West Bank
day relaxing na bliss in the West Bank one of the main towns in the West Bank
one of the main towns in the West Bank
one of the main towns in the West Bank Palestinian territories and it’s a
Palestinian territories and it’s a
Palestinian territories and it’s a daytime curfew this man is in a
daytime curfew this man is in a
daytime curfew this man is in a makeshift wheelchair this is Savannah
makeshift wheelchair this is Savannah
makeshift wheelchair this is Savannah Georgia and this is a hate crime post
Georgia and this is a hate crime post
Georgia and this is a hate crime post 9/11 hate crime and this family is
9/11 hate crime and this family is
9/11 hate crime and this family is standing in the ruins of their mosque
this is just south of San Francisco and
this is just south of San Francisco and it’s a Shura which is commemorating Imam
it’s a Shura which is commemorating Imam
it’s a Shura which is commemorating Imam Hussein the grandson of the Prophet
Hussein the grandson of the Prophet
Hussein the grandson of the Prophet Mohammed who was killed in the seventh
Mohammed who was killed in the seventh
Mohammed who was killed in the seventh century martyred and this is my father
century martyred and this is my father
century martyred and this is my father Arum Avakian he taught me so much he was
Arum Avakian he taught me so much he was
Arum Avakian he taught me so much he was a movie director and a film editor here
a movie director and a film editor here
a movie director and a film editor here he’s directing a movie with James Mason
he’s directing a movie with James Mason
he’s directing a movie with James Mason and John Gielgud in England and actually
and John Gielgud in England and actually
and John Gielgud in England and actually James Mason took this picture this is
James Mason took this picture this is
James Mason took this picture this is part of my family in Iran they’re
part of my family in Iran they’re
part of my family in Iran they’re Christians they’re Armenians but you can
Christians they’re Armenians but you can
Christians they’re Armenians but you can see they’re wearing the women are
see they’re wearing the women are
see they’re wearing the women are wearing hijab they’re wearing covering
wearing hijab they’re wearing covering
wearing hijab they’re wearing covering and it wasn’t only Muslim women who wore
and it wasn’t only Muslim women who wore
and it wasn’t only Muslim women who wore this kind of covering at that time this
this kind of covering at that time this
this kind of covering at that time this is my great grandfather’s funeral
is my great grandfather’s funeral
is my great grandfather’s funeral GARP at Avakian and they were a leading
GARP at Avakian and they were a leading
GARP at Avakian and they were a leading family in the region they escaped many
family in the region they escaped many
family in the region they escaped many many things like the Armenian Genocide
many things like the Armenian Genocide
many things like the Armenian Genocide they is gay
they is gay
they is gay – cholera epidemic my grandmother’s
– cholera epidemic my grandmother’s
– cholera epidemic my grandmother’s family escaped well only she escaped
family escaped well only she escaped
family escaped well only she escaped Stalin’s Great Terror they were from –
Stalin’s Great Terror they were from –
Stalin’s Great Terror they were from – please II George ax wanting to know what
please II George ax wanting to know what
please II George ax wanting to know what they lived through help drive me to
they lived through help drive me to
they lived through help drive me to cover civil war famine and revolution in
cover civil war famine and revolution in
cover civil war famine and revolution in my career and this is Mount Ararat which
my career and this is Mount Ararat which
my career and this is Mount Ararat which is a Christian holy mountain it’s where
is a Christian holy mountain it’s where
is a Christian holy mountain it’s where the Bible says that noah’s ark rested
the Bible says that noah’s ark rested
the Bible says that noah’s ark rested it’s in turkey and this is from a mass
it’s in turkey and this is from a mass
it’s in turkey and this is from a mass grave in syria when syria was part of
grave in syria when syria was part of
grave in syria when syria was part of the Ottoman Empire and over a million
the Ottoman Empire and over a million
the Ottoman Empire and over a million Armenians were killed and this is this
Armenians were killed and this is this
Armenians were killed and this is this is a mass grave that I found it was very
is a mass grave that I found it was very
is a mass grave that I found it was very difficult trip really only a few days
difficult trip really only a few days
difficult trip really only a few days where I had to get in and out there were
where I had to get in and out there were
where I had to get in and out there were many many Muslims Kurdish and and Syrian
many many Muslims Kurdish and and Syrian
many many Muslims Kurdish and and Syrian who helped to save Armenian orphans at
who helped to save Armenian orphans at
who helped to save Armenian orphans at that time my uncle was actually marched
that time my uncle was actually marched
that time my uncle was actually marched into the Syrian desert at the age of
into the Syrian desert at the age of
into the Syrian desert at the age of four and survived
four and survived
four and survived I was based in Moscow for two years I
I was based in Moscow for two years I
I was based in Moscow for two years I was covering for four years for Time
was covering for four years for Time
was covering for four years for Time magazine I covered glasnost perestroika
magazine I covered glasnost perestroika
magazine I covered glasnost perestroika and the end of the Soviet Union and also
and the end of the Soviet Union and also
and the end of the Soviet Union and also in other parts of Eastern Europe been
in other parts of Eastern Europe been
in other parts of Eastern Europe been you know Berlin Wall and so forth and
you know Berlin Wall and so forth and
you know Berlin Wall and so forth and while based in Moscow I covered several
while based in Moscow I covered several
while based in Moscow I covered several civil wars and uprisings in the Soviet
civil wars and uprisings in the Soviet
civil wars and uprisings in the Soviet republics from the Baltic Sea to the
republics from the Baltic Sea to the
republics from the Baltic Sea to the Chinese border and this is a family
Chinese border and this is a family
Chinese border and this is a family grieving during the war between Muslim s
grieving during the war between Muslim s
grieving during the war between Muslim s eries and Christian Armenians over
eries and Christian Armenians over
eries and Christian Armenians over nagorno-karabakh but religion didn’t
nagorno-karabakh but religion didn’t
nagorno-karabakh but religion didn’t have much to do with the conflict you
have much to do with the conflict you
have much to do with the conflict you know decades of communism had kept
know decades of communism had kept
know decades of communism had kept ethnic rivalries at bay and these things
ethnic rivalries at bay and these things
ethnic rivalries at bay and these things came to the fore in the late 80s and
came to the fore in the late 80s and
came to the fore in the late 80s and early 90s so I covered this war in five
early 90s so I covered this war in five
early 90s so I covered this war in five trips I was in Tajikistan and Soviet
trips I was in Tajikistan and Soviet
trips I was in Tajikistan and Soviet Tajikistan this is douching Bay and I
Tajikistan this is douching Bay and I
Tajikistan this is douching Bay and I was there for a story a deep wide story
was there for a story a deep wide story
was there for a story a deep wide story on the Central Asian Soviet republics
on the Central Asian Soviet republics
on the Central Asian Soviet republics and I arrived
and I arrived
and I arrived and I found myself in the middle of the
and I found myself in the middle of the
and I found myself in the middle of the first riots against Soviet rule Soviet
first riots against Soviet rule Soviet
first riots against Soviet rule Soviet power and they then snowballed over the
power and they then snowballed over the
power and they then snowballed over the years into a war and this is how we had
years into a war and this is how we had
years into a war and this is how we had to travel in Somalia with bodyguards
to travel in Somalia with bodyguards
to travel in Somalia with bodyguards this picture was taken by my friend
this picture was taken by my friend
this picture was taken by my friend Alfred you cope today and these are my
Alfred you cope today and these are my
Alfred you cope today and these are my bodyguards Somalia so the Palestinians I
bodyguards Somalia so the Palestinians I
bodyguards Somalia so the Palestinians I spent seven years in and out of the
spent seven years in and out of the
spent seven years in and out of the Palestinian territories and as I said
Palestinian territories and as I said
Palestinian territories and as I said lived in Gaza this is Fatima al Abed and
lived in Gaza this is Fatima al Abed and
lived in Gaza this is Fatima al Abed and she shares a room she sleeps in a room
she shares a room she sleeps in a room
she shares a room she sleeps in a room with she did at that time with seven
with she did at that time with seven
with she did at that time with seven siblings in shotty camp also known as
siblings in shotty camp also known as
siblings in shotty camp also known as beach camp and this is a Palestinian
beach camp and this is a Palestinian
beach camp and this is a Palestinian farm that was burned by Israeli settlers
farm that was burned by Israeli settlers
farm that was burned by Israeli settlers at thon and this was just the kind of
at thon and this was just the kind of
at thon and this was just the kind of thing that used to I used to get a call
thing that used to I used to get a call
thing that used to I used to get a call at you know dawn and just jump in my car
at you know dawn and just jump in my car
at you know dawn and just jump in my car and go and these are Bedouin camel
and go and these are Bedouin camel
and go and these are Bedouin camel herders I mean they’re the children of
herders I mean they’re the children of
herders I mean they’re the children of in the Gaza Strip
in the Gaza Strip
in the Gaza Strip these are Palestinian troops who are
these are Palestinian troops who are
these are Palestinian troops who are searching Hamas homes they’re looking
searching Hamas homes they’re looking
searching Hamas homes they’re looking for Hamas activists and radicals and
for Hamas activists and radicals and
for Hamas activists and radicals and guerrillas so I spent all night just you
guerrillas so I spent all night just you
guerrillas so I spent all night just you know tromping around refugee camps with
know tromping around refugee camps with
know tromping around refugee camps with them in this home they only found empty
them in this home they only found empty
them in this home they only found empty beds which were still warm the tension
beds which were still warm the tension
beds which were still warm the tension between the Palestinian Authority and
between the Palestinian Authority and
between the Palestinian Authority and Hamas became so bad that it resulted in
Hamas became so bad that it resulted in
Hamas became so bad that it resulted in three days not long after this three
three days not long after this three
three days not long after this three days of really bad bloodshed and killing
days of really bad bloodshed and killing
days of really bad bloodshed and killing and I was beaten by Hamas at that time
and I was beaten by Hamas at that time
and I was beaten by Hamas at that time and went to the Hamas Sheikh to complain
and went to the Hamas Sheikh to complain
and went to the Hamas Sheikh to complain afterwards because I was living there
afterwards because I was living there
afterwards because I was living there and I couldn’t have that I couldn’t be
and I couldn’t have that I couldn’t be
and I couldn’t have that I couldn’t be beaten by anybody and and and live there
beaten by anybody and and and live there
beaten by anybody and and and live there and take it so I went to the Hamas
and take it so I went to the Hamas
and take it so I went to the Hamas Sheikh and I complained
Sheikh and I complained
Sheikh and I complained and he then the next day he had it
and he then the next day he had it
and he then the next day he had it announced on the minarets
announced on the minarets
announced on the minarets in the midst of all these riots that
in the midst of all these riots that
in the midst of all these riots that they shouldn’t attack journalists and
they shouldn’t attack journalists and
they shouldn’t attack journalists and this picture to me is just this Gaza
this picture to me is just this Gaza
this picture to me is just this Gaza again and it’s just about to me this is
again and it’s just about to me this is
again and it’s just about to me this is about Arabic music you know I love
about Arabic music you know I love
about Arabic music you know I love Arabic music and to me well music is
Arabic music and to me well music is
Arabic music and to me well music is important no matter where you go because
important no matter where you go because
important no matter where you go because it tells you so much about people and
it tells you so much about people and
it tells you so much about people and and the soundtrack that’s in their heads
and the soundtrack that’s in their heads
and the soundtrack that’s in their heads and the rhythms that they live to in in
and the rhythms that they live to in in
and the rhythms that they live to in in life and so this is Moshe Katz and he
life and so this is Moshe Katz and he
life and so this is Moshe Katz and he was the first Israeli soldier killed in
was the first Israeli soldier killed in
was the first Israeli soldier killed in the First Intifada he was a father he
the First Intifada he was a father he
the First Intifada he was a father he was a reservist and he was shot
was a reservist and he was shot
was a reservist and he was shot pretty much point-blank in the street of
pretty much point-blank in the street of
pretty much point-blank in the street of Bethlehem and we were coming back from
Bethlehem and we were coming back from
Bethlehem and we were coming back from you know several photographers coming
you know several photographers coming
you know several photographers coming back from a usual Christian riot in a
back from a usual Christian riot in a
back from a usual Christian riot in a neighboring Christian town Bethlehem
neighboring Christian town Bethlehem
neighboring Christian town Bethlehem isn’t really Christian anymore and we
isn’t really Christian anymore and we
isn’t really Christian anymore and we found this this man and this is just you
found this this man and this is just you
found this this man and this is just you know morning in Gaza was morning in Gaza
know morning in Gaza was morning in Gaza
know morning in Gaza was morning in Gaza at that time the Israeli army has since
at that time the Israeli army has since
at that time the Israeli army has since pulled out these settlements are closed
pulled out these settlements are closed
pulled out these settlements are closed but at that time there were Israeli
but at that time there were Israeli
but at that time there were Israeli soldiers you know they could go anywhere
soldiers you know they could go anywhere
soldiers you know they could go anywhere and this is just you know like 7 a.m.
and this is just you know like 7 a.m.
and this is just you know like 7 a.m. and someone was throwing stones and he’s
and someone was throwing stones and he’s
and someone was throwing stones and he’s jumping out of his truck to chase it’s
jumping out of his truck to chase it’s
jumping out of his truck to chase it’s just usual life you can see the guy is
just usual life you can see the guy is
just usual life you can see the guy is still just selling fishing and this is a
still just selling fishing and this is a
still just selling fishing and this is a Hamas a bachelor party which I was
Hamas a bachelor party which I was
Hamas a bachelor party which I was invited to wear songs were sung about
invited to wear songs were sung about
invited to wear songs were sung about martyrs in this case being Hamas gunmen
martyrs in this case being Hamas gunmen
martyrs in this case being Hamas gunmen who had died in battle with Israelis
who had died in battle with Israelis
who had died in battle with Israelis these two guys were with the Fatah Hawks
these two guys were with the Fatah Hawks
these two guys were with the Fatah Hawks which was associated with the PLO and we
which was associated with the PLO and we
which was associated with the PLO and we were hiding in a house I was stuck in a
were hiding in a house I was stuck in a
were hiding in a house I was stuck in a house with them because there was a
house with them because there was a
house with them because there was a curfew after Islamic Jihad and another
curfew after Islamic Jihad and another
curfew after Islamic Jihad and another faction attacked the Israeli army so I
faction attacked the Israeli army so I
faction attacked the Israeli army so I was stuck with these guys I knew them
was stuck with these guys I knew them
was stuck with these guys I knew them pretty well it was bad though it was bad
pretty well it was bad though it was bad
pretty well it was bad though it was bad because
because
because if you know even if they hadn’t been
if you know even if they hadn’t been
if you know even if they hadn’t been involved in the attack you know if if
involved in the attack you know if if
involved in the attack you know if if soldiers had come to the door we would
soldiers had come to the door we would
soldiers had come to the door we would have all died so it wasn’t the most
have all died so it wasn’t the most
have all died so it wasn’t the most comfortable place to be that dim and you
comfortable place to be that dim and you
comfortable place to be that dim and you know who this is this is yessir arafat
know who this is this is yessir arafat
know who this is this is yessir arafat who was the chairman of the PLO no
who was the chairman of the PLO no
who was the chairman of the PLO no Palestinian Authority
Palestinian Authority
Palestinian Authority I knew him really well it started with a
I knew him really well it started with a
I knew him really well it started with a New York Times magazine cover story
New York Times magazine cover story
New York Times magazine cover story where I was sent I joined him in Tunis
where I was sent I joined him in Tunis
where I was sent I joined him in Tunis in 1988 and he took me to Libya in the
in 1988 and he took me to Libya in the
in 1988 and he took me to Libya in the middle of the night and I didn’t know
middle of the night and I didn’t know
middle of the night and I didn’t know where I was going I just had to give my
where I was going I just had to give my
where I was going I just had to give my passport and you know I went with him
passport and you know I went with him
passport and you know I went with him and then I stuck with him for two weeks
and then I stuck with him for two weeks
and then I stuck with him for two weeks for this cover story which led up to the
for this cover story which led up to the
for this cover story which led up to the Palestinian Declaration of Independence
Palestinian Declaration of Independence
Palestinian Declaration of Independence in Algiers and he ended up taking me a
in Algiers and he ended up taking me a
in Algiers and he ended up taking me a lot of I mean I went a lot of places
lot of I mean I went a lot of places
lot of I mean I went a lot of places with him on his little Iraqi plane that
with him on his little Iraqi plane that
with him on his little Iraqi plane that Saddam Hussein had given him and with
Saddam Hussein had given him and with
Saddam Hussein had given him and with his Iraqi pilot and he took me gosh I
his Iraqi pilot and he took me gosh I
his Iraqi pilot and he took me gosh I went many places to Morocco to Oslo when
went many places to Morocco to Oslo when
went many places to Morocco to Oslo when he accepted the Peace Prize with yet
he accepted the Peace Prize with yet
he accepted the Peace Prize with yet soccer beam and Shimon Perez and to
soccer beam and Shimon Perez and to
soccer beam and Shimon Perez and to Washington when he signed the Oslo
Washington when he signed the Oslo
Washington when he signed the Oslo Accords many places and I got to know
Accords many places and I got to know
Accords many places and I got to know them pretty well this is his wife and
them pretty well this is his wife and
them pretty well this is his wife and his child and they lived in a little
his child and they lived in a little
his child and they lived in a little house it was a villa a small villa
house it was a villa a small villa
house it was a villa a small villa across from my first home in Gaza across
across from my first home in Gaza across
across from my first home in Gaza across a kind of Sandy dirt road and these are
a kind of Sandy dirt road and these are
a kind of Sandy dirt road and these are Israelis celebrating Israeli
Israelis celebrating Israeli
Israelis celebrating Israeli Independence Day on the beach in Gaza
Independence Day on the beach in Gaza
Independence Day on the beach in Gaza and this is an Israeli settlement where
and this is an Israeli settlement where
and this is an Israeli settlement where for about a year before the house Arafat
for about a year before the house Arafat
for about a year before the house Arafat came back Hamas ran the street in Gaza
came back Hamas ran the street in Gaza
came back Hamas ran the street in Gaza and I lived in his job for about a year
and I lived in his job for about a year
and I lived in his job for about a year but it was hard to go swimming in his
but it was hard to go swimming in his
but it was hard to go swimming in his job it was a challenge it wraps around
job it was a challenge it wraps around
job it was a challenge it wraps around you and you know um it’s hard to swim so
you and you know um it’s hard to swim so
you and you know um it’s hard to swim so I would go here because I could wear a
I would go here because I could wear a
I would go here because I could wear a bathing suit
bathing suit
bathing suit and it’s just very normal you know these
and it’s just very normal you know these
and it’s just very normal you know these are off duty Navy personnel and you know
are off duty Navy personnel and you know
are off duty Navy personnel and you know anything can happen in Gaza any time in
anything can happen in Gaza any time in
anything can happen in Gaza any time in fact
fact
fact in Israel or the Palestinian territories
in Israel or the Palestinian territories
in Israel or the Palestinian territories any time so a lot of people are armed
any time so a lot of people are armed
any time so a lot of people are armed and this is just your you know classic
and this is just your you know classic
and this is just your you know classic riot my first three four months there it
riot my first three four months there it
riot my first three four months there it was just the amount of violence was just
was just the amount of violence was just
was just the amount of violence was just extraordinary and it was you would find
extraordinary and it was you would find
extraordinary and it was you would find these things everywhere you went
these things everywhere you went
these things everywhere you went practically in the West Bank or Gaza and
practically in the West Bank or Gaza and
practically in the West Bank or Gaza and this is in Gaza I was just taking daily
this is in Gaza I was just taking daily
this is in Gaza I was just taking daily live pictures and heard gunshots and my
live pictures and heard gunshots and my
live pictures and heard gunshots and my friends and I ran through a sewer to
friends and I ran through a sewer to
friends and I ran through a sewer to reach this Palestinian boy who’s dying
reach this Palestinian boy who’s dying
reach this Palestinian boy who’s dying in the dregs of the sewer there and this
in the dregs of the sewer there and this
in the dregs of the sewer there and this is just how kids play in Gaza this is
is just how kids play in Gaza this is
is just how kids play in Gaza this is just how it is
just how it is
just how it is you know I know all your parents out
you know I know all your parents out
you know I know all your parents out there say huh because the rust the
there say huh because the rust the
there say huh because the rust the barbed wire it’s just like that you know
okay this is Islamic Republic of Iran it
okay this is Islamic Republic of Iran it was an incredibly special experience for
was an incredibly special experience for
was an incredibly special experience for me because you know part of my family’s
me because you know part of my family’s
me because you know part of my family’s from there and the National Geographic
from there and the National Geographic
from there and the National Geographic magazine accepted a proposal for me to
magazine accepted a proposal for me to
magazine accepted a proposal for me to go and I spent four amazing months there
go and I spent four amazing months there
go and I spent four amazing months there these two are engaged the lady in the
these two are engaged the lady in the
these two are engaged the lady in the lighter headscarf and that man are
lighter headscarf and that man are
lighter headscarf and that man are engaged in their worth with a chaperone
engaged in their worth with a chaperone
engaged in their worth with a chaperone and on the other side of this bridge
and on the other side of this bridge
and on the other side of this bridge zidna spawn armor le police so they are
zidna spawn armor le police so they are
zidna spawn armor le police so they are kind of playing this cat-and-mouse game
kind of playing this cat-and-mouse game
kind of playing this cat-and-mouse game which goes on any run all the time
which goes on any run all the time
which goes on any run all the time between morality police and you know
between morality police and you know
between morality police and you know couples that aren’t married I had a
couples that aren’t married I had a
couples that aren’t married I had a great time I went with the then
great time I went with the then
great time I went with the then President Mohammed Hitomi for three days
President Mohammed Hitomi for three days
President Mohammed Hitomi for three days it was a kind of a big deal because it
it was a kind of a big deal because it
it was a kind of a big deal because it was the first time an American
was the first time an American
was the first time an American photojournalist had been able to do this
photojournalist had been able to do this
photojournalist had been able to do this in revolutionary Iran as to really hang
in revolutionary Iran as to really hang
in revolutionary Iran as to really hang out with a an Iranian post-revolution
out with a an Iranian post-revolution
out with a an Iranian post-revolution president a friend of mine cut the red
president a friend of mine cut the red
president a friend of mine cut the red tape for this and I was on my way you
tape for this and I was on my way you
tape for this and I was on my way you see child labor all over the world
see child labor all over the world
see child labor all over the world these kids are collecting salt to sell
these kids are collecting salt to sell
these kids are collecting salt to sell to bakers its crudest on in the south
to bakers its crudest on in the south
to bakers its crudest on in the south and this is con Devon and people live in
and this is con Devon and people live in
and this is con Devon and people live in these beautiful little caves and they’re
these beautiful little caves and they’re
these beautiful little caves and they’re very well-kept very ancient down
very well-kept very ancient down
very well-kept very ancient down these are gosh guy II know Matt’s a
these are gosh guy II know Matt’s a
these are gosh guy II know Matt’s a Turkic tribe originally from Central
Turkic tribe originally from Central
Turkic tribe originally from Central Asia and there’s semi-nomadic now and
Asia and there’s semi-nomadic now and
Asia and there’s semi-nomadic now and these are Arabs from Iranian Persian
these are Arabs from Iranian Persian
these are Arabs from Iranian Persian Gulf Kish Island as cogman Isfahan which
Gulf Kish Island as cogman Isfahan which
Gulf Kish Island as cogman Isfahan which is famous for its the gorgeous mosques
is famous for its the gorgeous mosques
is famous for its the gorgeous mosques and comb this is a mosque which is
and comb this is a mosque which is
and comb this is a mosque which is normally forbidden to non-muslims but a
normally forbidden to non-muslims but a
normally forbidden to non-muslims but a security guard took pity on me after I
security guard took pity on me after I
security guard took pity on me after I tried all day to get in and couldn’t and
tried all day to get in and couldn’t and
tried all day to get in and couldn’t and was despondent so he let me work and
was despondent so he let me work and
was despondent so he let me work and this is the actually azure Austrian
this is the actually azure Austrian
this is the actually azure Austrian tradition pre-islamic tradition that
tradition pre-islamic tradition that
tradition pre-islamic tradition that Iranians still observe naruse numbers is
Iranians still observe naruse numbers is
Iranians still observe naruse numbers is the Persian New Year these goldfish
the Persian New Year these goldfish
the Persian New Year these goldfish symbolize life Kish Island again this is
symbolize life Kish Island again this is
symbolize life Kish Island again this is a family beach and the women cover and
a family beach and the women cover and
a family beach and the women cover and the men don’t but there was a women’s
the men don’t but there was a women’s
the men don’t but there was a women’s Beach where you couldn’t just wear
Beach where you couldn’t just wear
Beach where you couldn’t just wear anything or nothing at all actually
anything or nothing at all actually
anything or nothing at all actually it was strictly for women of course and
it was strictly for women of course and
it was strictly for women of course and this is a shota again you know for Imam
this is a shota again you know for Imam
this is a shota again you know for Imam Husain there’s self-flagellation just
Husain there’s self-flagellation just
Husain there’s self-flagellation just like Catholic penitence during Easter in
like Catholic penitence during Easter in
like Catholic penitence during Easter in Spain you know there are some people who
Spain you know there are some people who
Spain you know there are some people who do this i’m kurdish bride she’s 17 ki al
do this i’m kurdish bride she’s 17 ki al
do this i’m kurdish bride she’s 17 ki al ali her name is this is on the iraqi
ali her name is this is on the iraqi
ali her name is this is on the iraqi border i was actually detained here for
border i was actually detained here for
border i was actually detained here for about 24 hours because i I drove I
about 24 hours because i I drove I
about 24 hours because i I drove I wanted to get to these Kurdish villages
wanted to get to these Kurdish villages
wanted to get to these Kurdish villages and I drove too close and
these masks are pre-islamic actually in
these masks are pre-islamic actually in this part of Iran very often the wearing
this part of Iran very often the wearing
this part of Iran very often the wearing of masks in Muslim countries is it’s a
of masks in Muslim countries is it’s a
of masks in Muslim countries is it’s a very old tradition that very often
very old tradition that very often
very old tradition that very often predates Islam although these women are
predates Islam although these women are
predates Islam although these women are Muslim
this is Somalia is a graveyard in
this is Somalia is a graveyard in Somalia I went when pressed attention
Somalia I went when pressed attention
Somalia I went when pressed attention had waned and I didn’t run into anybody
had waned and I didn’t run into anybody
had waned and I didn’t run into anybody for the first any any other
for the first any any other
for the first any any other photographers for the first month that I
photographers for the first month that I
photographers for the first month that I was there I stayed with doctors I worked
was there I stayed with doctors I worked
was there I stayed with doctors I worked with their bodyguards but sometimes I
with their bodyguards but sometimes I
with their bodyguards but sometimes I didn’t work with bodyguards I wandered
didn’t work with bodyguards I wandered
didn’t work with bodyguards I wandered the refugee camps and we would see
the refugee camps and we would see
the refugee camps and we would see things like I was alone once when I saw
things like I was alone once when I saw
things like I was alone once when I saw a gunman attack a feeding center and
a gunman attack a feeding center and
a gunman attack a feeding center and there was just nothing I could do though
there was just nothing I could do though
there was just nothing I could do though I mean you know they just did what they
I mean you know they just did what they
I mean you know they just did what they wanted to do it was a very ruthless
wanted to do it was a very ruthless
wanted to do it was a very ruthless ruthless world where you could die for
ruthless world where you could die for
ruthless world where you could die for anything any reason at all this child
anything any reason at all this child
anything any reason at all this child was completely alone I mean there was
was completely alone I mean there was
was completely alone I mean there was nobody to bury this job clearly the
nobody to bury this job clearly the
nobody to bury this job clearly the whole family had died you know and this
whole family had died you know and this
whole family had died you know and this boy belonged to a clan that was
boy belonged to a clan that was
boy belonged to a clan that was victorious in that area and he used to
victorious in that area and he used to
victorious in that area and he used to follow me around and actually discovered
follow me around and actually discovered
follow me around and actually discovered in the contact sheets later that his
in the contact sheets later that his
in the contact sheets later that his kids was really fixated on me and I
kids was really fixated on me and I
kids was really fixated on me and I didn’t realize that until I got home and
didn’t realize that until I got home and
didn’t realize that until I got home and I looked at the contact sheets and I saw
I looked at the contact sheets and I saw
I looked at the contact sheets and I saw him here and here and here and here and
him here and here and here and here and
him here and here and here and here and here in all these contact sheets but
here in all these contact sheets but
here in all these contact sheets but while I was there you know I used to
while I was there you know I used to
while I was there you know I used to give him rides back and forth and then
give him rides back and forth and then
give him rides back and forth and then one day he put a bullet in the chamber
one day he put a bullet in the chamber
one day he put a bullet in the chamber of his gun and threatened to kill me and
of his gun and threatened to kill me and
of his gun and threatened to kill me and I was with a translator from care
I was with a translator from care
I was with a translator from care I said I was furious and I snapped into
I said I was furious and I snapped into
I said I was furious and I snapped into New York City mode and I said I could be
New York City mode and I said I could be
New York City mode and I said I could be your mother and he and this guy
your mother and he and this guy
your mother and he and this guy translated it for the boy and all the
translated it for the boy and all the
translated it for the boy and all the men around the gun man around older guys
men around the gun man around older guys
men around the gun man around older guys turned on him I mean it worked you know
turned on him I mean it worked you know
turned on him I mean it worked you know it was just my adrenaline
it was just my adrenaline
it was just my adrenaline it was the same reaction I would have if
it was the same reaction I would have if
it was the same reaction I would have if somebody pulled a knife on me in New
somebody pulled a knife on me in New
somebody pulled a knife on me in New York you know which happened once when I
York you know which happened once when I
York you know which happened once when I was photographing an artist and I was
was photographing an artist and I was
was photographing an artist and I was done and I was on the street it was kind
done and I was on the street it was kind
done and I was on the street it was kind of a an edgy neighborhood in those days
of a an edgy neighborhood in those days
of a an edgy neighborhood in those days and you know you just react so that’s
and you know you just react so that’s
and you know you just react so that’s what happened they so they grabbed his
what happened they so they grabbed his
what happened they so they grabbed his gun and they kicked him and they slapped
gun and they kicked him and they slapped
gun and they kicked him and they slapped him and they drove him off but he went
him and they drove him off but he went
him and they drove him off but he went like this on his way you know
like this on his way you know
like this on his way you know Oh as they were chasing him off so I was
Oh as they were chasing him off so I was
Oh as they were chasing him off so I was kind of glad I didn’t see him again
now this is these are the Navy SEALs
now this is these are the Navy SEALs arriving this was at the port you know
arriving this was at the port you know
arriving this was at the port you know it’s part of Operation Restore hope at
it’s part of Operation Restore hope at
it’s part of Operation Restore hope at that time the President HW Bush got this
that time the President HW Bush got this
that time the President HW Bush got this us-led UN Force together to protect aid
us-led UN Force together to protect aid
us-led UN Force together to protect aid convoys and they came and this was at
convoys and they came and this was at
convoys and they came and this was at the port which was still in Somali
the port which was still in Somali
the port which was still in Somali gunman hands and and that there was you
gunman hands and and that there was you
gunman hands and and that there was you know gunfire broke out and they put us
know gunfire broke out and they put us
know gunfire broke out and they put us on the ground and they wouldn’t let us
on the ground and they wouldn’t let us
on the ground and they wouldn’t let us up for a while and they took our body
up for a while and they took our body
up for a while and they took our body cards guns away which was disastrous you
cards guns away which was disastrous you
cards guns away which was disastrous you know you just that’s a recipe for you
know you just that’s a recipe for you
know you just that’s a recipe for you know death in Somalia you can’t function
know death in Somalia you can’t function
know death in Somalia you can’t function without it as a journalist now these
without it as a journalist now these
without it as a journalist now these guys on the ground or snipers who kept
guys on the ground or snipers who kept
guys on the ground or snipers who kept our hotel under sniper fire for three
our hotel under sniper fire for three
our hotel under sniper fire for three days until the Nigerian troops who were
days until the Nigerian troops who were
days until the Nigerian troops who were some very well they were very sweet to
some very well they were very sweet to
some very well they were very sweet to us they were on our rooftop and they
us they were on our rooftop and they
us they were on our rooftop and they were they didn’t have any orders to get
were they didn’t have any orders to get
were they didn’t have any orders to get these guys and so finally they got
these guys and so finally they got
these guys and so finally they got orders to get them so I followed them
orders to get them so I followed them
orders to get them so I followed them and we went and they got these Somali
and we went and they got these Somali
and we went and they got these Somali snipers
this is the Soudan time then sent me to
this is the Soudan time then sent me to Sudan where there was famine with
Sudan where there was famine with
Sudan where there was famine with long-standing famines civil war between
long-standing famines civil war between
long-standing famines civil war between the muscle north and the Christian South
the muscle north and the Christian South
the muscle north and the Christian South but now it had gotten worse because the
but now it had gotten worse because the
but now it had gotten worse because the Christians turned on each other two
Christians turned on each other two
Christians turned on each other two factions turned on each other and the
factions turned on each other and the
factions turned on each other and the famines started to get even worse and I
famines started to get even worse and I
famines started to get even worse and I was in this village and I couldn’t get
was in this village and I couldn’t get
was in this village and I couldn’t get out basically the UN and all the aid
out basically the UN and all the aid
out basically the UN and all the aid groups left and it was just myself and
groups left and it was just myself and
groups left and it was just myself and two other journalists and we slept in an
two other journalists and we slept in an
two other journalists and we slept in an abandoned aid camp UN camp and we just
abandoned aid camp UN camp and we just
abandoned aid camp UN camp and we just we had to eke out our film I mean this
we had to eke out our film I mean this
we had to eke out our film I mean this photographer and I each frame was so
photographer and I each frame was so
photographer and I each frame was so precious because we had hardly any film
precious because we had hardly any film
precious because we had hardly any film left and if the the Civil War like if
left and if the the Civil War like if
left and if the the Civil War like if the front line moved and came to us we
the front line moved and came to us we
the front line moved and came to us we would we would be useless without the
would we would be useless without the
would we would be useless without the film but two weeks after we left anybody
film but two weeks after we left anybody
film but two weeks after we left anybody who was too weak to run was killed
who was too weak to run was killed
who was too weak to run was killed because the other rebel faction came and
because the other rebel faction came and
because the other rebel faction came and just massacred people and this is a lake
just massacred people and this is a lake
just massacred people and this is a lake there it’s called you I now this is
there it’s called you I now this is
there it’s called you I now this is America this is post 9/11 Muslim America
America this is post 9/11 Muslim America
America this is post 9/11 Muslim America and it was a great time to kind of for
and it was a great time to kind of for
and it was a great time to kind of for me to revisit America it was just a very
me to revisit America it was just a very
me to revisit America it was just a very very classic immigrant experience I
very classic immigrant experience I
very classic immigrant experience I think I’m not Muslim I’m not you know
think I’m not Muslim I’m not you know
think I’m not Muslim I’m not you know but it they reminded me of my family you
but it they reminded me of my family you
but it they reminded me of my family you know the little bit of the old country
know the little bit of the old country
know the little bit of the old country a lot of the new country in this very
a lot of the new country in this very
a lot of the new country in this very rich American mix this is Dearborn
rich American mix this is Dearborn
rich American mix this is Dearborn Michigan and these are resin dolls and
Michigan and these are resin dolls and
Michigan and these are resin dolls and they’re an alternative Islamic
they’re an alternative Islamic
they’re an alternative Islamic alternative to Barbie and this lady fled
alternative to Barbie and this lady fled
alternative to Barbie and this lady fled the civil war in Lebanon this is
the civil war in Lebanon this is
the civil war in Lebanon this is Dearborn and you know Muslim
Dearborn and you know Muslim
Dearborn and you know Muslim Americans like all Americans have fled
Americans like all Americans have fled
Americans like all Americans have fled civil war dictatorship economic hardship
civil war dictatorship economic hardship
civil war dictatorship economic hardship I mean it’s just like everybody else but
I mean it’s just like everybody else but
I mean it’s just like everybody else but they were under a certain amount of
they were under a certain amount of
they were under a certain amount of pressure at that time and National
pressure at that time and National
pressure at that time and National Geographic asked me to go out and see
Geographic asked me to go out and see
Geographic asked me to go out and see how they were doing and to describe
how they were doing and to describe
how they were doing and to describe their their lives visually this is Latif
their their lives visually this is Latif
their their lives visually this is Latif Mohammed and Florence Muhammad is
Mohammed and Florence Muhammad is
Mohammed and Florence Muhammad is reflected in the mirror with her
reflected in the mirror with her
reflected in the mirror with her granddaughter Kelly and they’re in a
granddaughter Kelly and they’re in a
granddaughter Kelly and they’re in a place called new Modena Mississippi
place called new Modena Mississippi
place called new Modena Mississippi which is near Summerall and it’s a
which is near Summerall and it’s a
which is near Summerall and it’s a Muslim mostly Muslim village of farmers
Muslim mostly Muslim village of farmers
Muslim mostly Muslim village of farmers and their mainstream Sunni Muslims and
and their mainstream Sunni Muslims and
and their mainstream Sunni Muslims and this is like a Martinez she is Mexican
this is like a Martinez she is Mexican
this is like a Martinez she is Mexican American convert to Islam more and more
American convert to Islam more and more
American convert to Islam more and more Hispanic Americans are converting to
Hispanic Americans are converting to
Hispanic Americans are converting to Islam this is in Houston and this is at
Islam this is in Houston and this is at
Islam this is in Houston and this is at a baptism party for one of her Catholic
a baptism party for one of her Catholic
a baptism party for one of her Catholic relatives this is just the end of the
relatives this is just the end of the
relatives this is just the end of the day after a fair and Dearborne rainstorm
day after a fair and Dearborne rainstorm
day after a fair and Dearborne rainstorm and this is Graterford Pennsylvania and
and this is Graterford Pennsylvania and
and this is Graterford Pennsylvania and it’s a maximum-security prison
it’s a maximum-security prison
it’s a maximum-security prison there are about 3,200 prisoners here and
there are about 3,200 prisoners here and
there are about 3,200 prisoners here and 800 of them are Muslim most of them are
800 of them are Muslim most of them are
800 of them are Muslim most of them are African American most of and there were
African American most of and there were
African American most of and there were only 12 Nation of Islam members in this
only 12 Nation of Islam members in this
only 12 Nation of Islam members in this prison most people think oh all
prison most people think oh all
prison most people think oh all prisoners are Nation of Islam but
prisoners are Nation of Islam but
prisoners are Nation of Islam but they’re not it’s really the minority
they’re not it’s really the minority
they’re not it’s really the minority most of them are mainstream Muslims and
most of them are mainstream Muslims and
most of them are mainstream Muslims and they were incredibly protective of me I
they were incredibly protective of me I
they were incredibly protective of me I went in very strict Islamic dress
went in very strict Islamic dress
went in very strict Islamic dress because for several reasons one to show
because for several reasons one to show
because for several reasons one to show respect to the elders who gave me
respect to the elders who gave me
respect to the elders who gave me permission to to photograph there and
permission to to photograph there and
permission to to photograph there and they were lifers they were all in for
they were lifers they were all in for
they were lifers they were all in for life those elders and the other reason
life those elders and the other reason
life those elders and the other reason was I wanted to show that I was with the
was I wanted to show that I was with the
was I wanted to show that I was with the Muslims and protected by the Muslims
Muslims and protected by the Muslims
Muslims and protected by the Muslims because there were a lot of very crazy
because there were a lot of very crazy
because there were a lot of very crazy people in this prison ever a lot of
people in this prison ever a lot of
people in this prison ever a lot of gangs
gangs
gangs they took it as a point of pride to
they took it as a point of pride to
they took it as a point of pride to protect me and was a very you know you
protect me and was a very you know you
protect me and was a very you know you can’t have a gun in a deep inside a
can’t have a gun in a deep inside a
can’t have a gun in a deep inside a maximum-security prison you’re the the
maximum-security prison you’re the the
maximum-security prison you’re the the you know the I mean the guards don’t
you know the I mean the guards don’t
you know the I mean the guards don’t have guns because they can be turned on
have guns because they can be turned on
have guns because they can be turned on if they do so it was a very edgy place
if they do so it was a very edgy place
if they do so it was a very edgy place but I thought well protected by these
but I thought well protected by these
but I thought well protected by these guys this is actually a Zoroastrian
guys this is actually a Zoroastrian
guys this is actually a Zoroastrian tradition this is Los Angeles this is
tradition this is Los Angeles this is
tradition this is Los Angeles this is the beach in Los Angeles where I used to
the beach in Los Angeles where I used to
the beach in Los Angeles where I used to swim you know daily as a teenager
swim you know daily as a teenager
swim you know daily as a teenager these are Persian Americans Iranian
these are Persian Americans Iranian
these are Persian Americans Iranian Americans and they jump over fires on
Americans and they jump over fires on
Americans and they jump over fires on their new year to cast off the bad luck
their new year to cast off the bad luck
their new year to cast off the bad luck of the previous year you know for good
of the previous year you know for good
of the previous year you know for good luck in the next year and then National
luck in the next year and then National
luck in the next year and then National Geographic asked me to go and get as
Geographic asked me to go and get as
Geographic asked me to go and get as close to Hezbollah yes I could and I did
close to Hezbollah yes I could and I did
close to Hezbollah yes I could and I did it was a it was the heart one of the
it was a it was the heart one of the
it was a it was the heart one of the hardest things I’ve ever done in my
hardest things I’ve ever done in my
hardest things I’ve ever done in my career by far in terms of access this is
career by far in terms of access this is
career by far in terms of access this is not Hezbollah Hezbollah exists in in
not Hezbollah Hezbollah exists in in
not Hezbollah Hezbollah exists in in Lebanon Lebanese Hezbollah rather than
Lebanon Lebanese Hezbollah rather than
Lebanon Lebanese Hezbollah rather than Iranian exist in Lebanon and which is a
Iranian exist in Lebanon and which is a
Iranian exist in Lebanon and which is a very secular place famous for its
very secular place famous for its
very secular place famous for its partying ways always extremely diverse
partying ways always extremely diverse
partying ways always extremely diverse some people are totally secular some are
some people are totally secular some are
some people are totally secular some are incredibly religious and you know so but
incredibly religious and you know so but
incredibly religious and you know so but Hezbollah is the real power in Lebanon
Hezbollah is the real power in Lebanon
Hezbollah is the real power in Lebanon they basically shut down the government
they basically shut down the government
they basically shut down the government in the not so distant past and have
in the not so distant past and have
in the not so distant past and have enough allies that they basically
enough allies that they basically
enough allies that they basically control things but in any case they have
control things but in any case they have
control things but in any case they have also a state within a state within
also a state within a state within
also a state within a state within Lebanon they have their own security to
Lebanon they have their own security to
Lebanon they have their own security to have their own schools they have their
have their own schools they have their
have their own schools they have their own hospitals an incredible social
own hospitals an incredible social
own hospitals an incredible social network and of course you know they in
network and of course you know they in
network and of course you know they in the 80s they were responsible for quite
the 80s they were responsible for quite
the 80s they were responsible for quite a few American deaths and kidnappings
a few American deaths and kidnappings
a few American deaths and kidnappings and and so forth
and and so forth
and and so forth this guy on the right is sunni but the
this guy on the right is sunni but the
this guy on the right is sunni but the rest of them are has both supporters and
rest of them are has both supporters and
rest of them are has both supporters and sheiks and these are all Mufti Scouts
sheiks and these are all Mufti Scouts
sheiks and these are all Mufti Scouts and they start training these kids very
and they start training these kids very
and they start training these kids very very young and not all of them are
very young and not all of them are
very young and not all of them are trained to be guerillas and there’s a
trained to be guerillas and there’s a
trained to be guerillas and there’s a kind of culling system you know some are
kind of culling system you know some are
kind of culling system you know some are good for the political wing some are
good for the political wing some are
good for the political wing some are good for intelligence wing some of them
good for intelligence wing some of them
good for intelligence wing some of them are good for education you know these
are good for education you know these
are good for education you know these are elite kids at a very important event
are elite kids at a very important event
are elite kids at a very important event where the deputy of Hezbollah was
where the deputy of Hezbollah was
where the deputy of Hezbollah was speaking and this is another one of
speaking and this is another one of
speaking and this is another one of their camps these are just the
their camps these are just the
their camps these are just the counselors on the Litani River in the
counselors on the Litani River in the
counselors on the Litani River in the South a lot of these places where I was
South a lot of these places where I was
South a lot of these places where I was were bombed in 2006 I mean they’re gone
were bombed in 2006 I mean they’re gone
were bombed in 2006 I mean they’re gone I visited you know really interesting
I visited you know really interesting
I visited you know really interesting places but it was very difficult it was
places but it was very difficult it was
places but it was very difficult it was getting access was nearly impossible
getting access was nearly impossible
getting access was nearly impossible it’s a it’s an organization that’s
it’s a it’s an organization that’s
it’s a it’s an organization that’s structured in some part to keep
structured in some part to keep
structured in some part to keep outsiders out it took a great deal of
outsiders out it took a great deal of
outsiders out it took a great deal of persistence these guys are worried about
persistence these guys are worried about
persistence these guys are worried about me you know they’ve got guns they’re not
me you know they’ve got guns they’re not
me you know they’ve got guns they’re not showing but you know every time I lifted
showing but you know every time I lifted
showing but you know every time I lifted my camera they were like forever and
my camera they were like forever and
my camera they were like forever and their mouths into their earpiece or
their mouths into their earpiece or
their mouths into their earpiece or whatever and you know the security is
whatever and you know the security is
whatever and you know the security is just extraordinary and anybody who meets
just extraordinary and anybody who meets
just extraordinary and anybody who meets with outsiders has to report it or they
with outsiders has to report it or they
with outsiders has to report it or they can be thrown out this is that a former
can be thrown out this is that a former
can be thrown out this is that a former Israeli prison actually that was run by
Israeli prison actually that was run by
Israeli prison actually that was run by the SLA the south Lebanon Army who were
the SLA the south Lebanon Army who were
the SLA the south Lebanon Army who were the Lebanese allies of Israel and this
the Lebanese allies of Israel and this
the Lebanese allies of Israel and this woman says that she was tortured by the
woman says that she was tortured by the
woman says that she was tortured by the these Lebanese allies
I wrote this book and edited this book
I wrote this book and edited this book while undergoing chemo so I’m gonna give
while undergoing chemo so I’m gonna give
while undergoing chemo so I’m gonna give my speakers feet to this organization
my speakers feet to this organization
my speakers feet to this organization Susan G Komen and they have programs for
Susan G Komen and they have programs for
Susan G Komen and they have programs for women in the Middle East
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