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two decades ago we knew almost nothing

two decades ago we knew almost nothing about the world’s largest ray one of the

about the world’s largest ray one of the

about the world’s largest ray one of the biggest fish in our ocean less than ten

biggest fish in our ocean less than ten

biggest fish in our ocean less than ten years ago the conservation status of

years ago the conservation status of

years ago the conservation status of this animal was still listed as data

this animal was still listed as data

this animal was still listed as data deficient highlighting the fact that we

deficient highlighting the fact that we

deficient highlighting the fact that we didn’t know very much about its ecology

didn’t know very much about its ecology

didn’t know very much about its ecology or population trends in the wild five

or population trends in the wild five

or population trends in the wild five years ago we still thought there was a

years ago we still thought there was a

years ago we still thought there was a single species of Manta roaming the

single species of Manta roaming the

single species of Manta roaming the world’s oceans people often refer to me

world’s oceans people often refer to me

world’s oceans people often refer to me as a obsessive specie ologist

as a obsessive specie ologist

as a obsessive specie ologist most people call me a conservation

most people call me a conservation

most people call me a conservation biologist which is true and now an

biologist which is true and now an

biologist which is true and now an emerging Explorer I don’t know I’m

emerging Explorer I don’t know I’m

emerging Explorer I don’t know I’m actually just a girl that likes fish I

actually just a girl that likes fish I

actually just a girl that likes fish I grew up inspired by great explorers as

grew up inspired by great explorers as

grew up inspired by great explorers as probably many of you did and you know

probably many of you did and you know

probably many of you did and you know the likes of Jacques Cousteau and Sylvia

the likes of Jacques Cousteau and Sylvia

the likes of Jacques Cousteau and Sylvia Earle eminent Hyo Wilson and these

Earle eminent Hyo Wilson and these

Earle eminent Hyo Wilson and these people really inspired me and and I

people really inspired me and and I

people really inspired me and and I admired their dedication and their

admired their dedication and their

admired their dedication and their passion but most of all I also

passion but most of all I also

passion but most of all I also appreciated that each one of them seemed

appreciated that each one of them seemed

appreciated that each one of them seemed to share a similar philosophy they

to share a similar philosophy they

to share a similar philosophy they seemed to understand that it would take

seemed to understand that it would take

seemed to understand that it would take careful long-term investigation to

careful long-term investigation to

careful long-term investigation to unravel ecological mysteries and they

unravel ecological mysteries and they

unravel ecological mysteries and they chose to take us along for that journey

chose to take us along for that journey

chose to take us along for that journey I was in love with the ocean before I’d

I was in love with the ocean before I’d

I was in love with the ocean before I’d even been underneath the ocean I was

even been underneath the ocean I was

even been underneath the ocean I was begging my parents let me learn how to

begging my parents let me learn how to

begging my parents let me learn how to dive I got certified on my 12th birthday

dive I got certified on my 12th birthday

dive I got certified on my 12th birthday I went to marine biology camps every

I went to marine biology camps every

I went to marine biology camps every single summer of my youth I was I was

single summer of my youth I was I was

single summer of my youth I was I was that kid and in graduate school finally

that kid and in graduate school finally

that kid and in graduate school finally a marine biologist in my own right I was

a marine biologist in my own right I was

a marine biologist in my own right I was just desperate to immerse myself in

just desperate to immerse myself in

just desperate to immerse myself in biological problem solving I too like

biological problem solving I too like

biological problem solving I too like Jane Goodall wanted to just get out

Jane Goodall wanted to just get out

Jane Goodall wanted to just get out there do stuff learn about a specific

there do stuff learn about a specific

there do stuff learn about a specific species but I I needed to travel I

species but I I needed to travel I

species but I I needed to travel I needed to find my inspiration figure out

needed to find my inspiration figure out

needed to find my inspiration figure out what it is that I was meant to do and I

what it is that I was meant to do and I

what it is that I was meant to do and I was drawn to Africa that’s where I still

was drawn to Africa that’s where I still

was drawn to Africa that’s where I still live and there I was inspired I was

live and there I was inspired I was

live and there I was inspired I was inspired at a workshop for the IUCN I

inspired at a workshop for the IUCN I

inspired at a workshop for the IUCN I was asked to come and help with

was asked to come and help with

was asked to come and help with conservation assessments for their red

conservation assessments for their red

conservation assessments for their red list and I was asked to help evaluate

list and I was asked to help evaluate

list and I was asked to help evaluate the the status of the giant manta ray

the the status of the giant manta ray

the the status of the giant manta ray and it became very clear to us that week

and it became very clear to us that week

and it became very clear to us that week that we know nothing about this animal

that we know nothing about this animal

that we know nothing about this animal or we didn’t at the time and it was not

or we didn’t at the time and it was not

or we didn’t at the time and it was not a real shocker that by the end of the

a real shocker that by the end of the

a real shocker that by the end of the week we had to list this

week we had to list this

week we had to list this as data deficient because we were unable

as data deficient because we were unable

as data deficient because we were unable to assess its conservation status you

to assess its conservation status you

to assess its conservation status you know it’s awful feeling but the wheels

know it’s awful feeling but the wheels

know it’s awful feeling but the wheels had started to turn in my mind I’ve been

had started to turn in my mind I’ve been

had started to turn in my mind I’ve been in love with mantas probably since a

in love with mantas probably since a

in love with mantas probably since a very first moment I saw one underwater

very first moment I saw one underwater

very first moment I saw one underwater and if you haven’t seen one get out

and if you haven’t seen one get out

and if you haven’t seen one get out there and do it

there and do it

there and do it these are awesome animals it’s about the

these are awesome animals it’s about the

these are awesome animals it’s about the coolest you know experience that you can

coolest you know experience that you can

coolest you know experience that you can have underwater with a fish they are

have underwater with a fish they are

have underwater with a fish they are intelligent and curious that the largest

intelligent and curious that the largest

intelligent and curious that the largest brain of any fish these are animals that

brain of any fish these are animals that

brain of any fish these are animals that behave like mammals even though they’re

behave like mammals even though they’re

behave like mammals even though they’re fish they don’t swim away from you they

fish they don’t swim away from you they

fish they don’t swim away from you they swim towards you they love to play there

swim towards you they love to play there

swim towards you they love to play there in curious they engage you underwater

in curious they engage you underwater

in curious they engage you underwater but for the first time I was seeing them

but for the first time I was seeing them

but for the first time I was seeing them not as an animal that I love to dive

not as an animal that I love to dive

not as an animal that I love to dive with not as an animal that I just like

with not as an animal that I just like

with not as an animal that I just like to take photographs of but as an animal

to take photographs of but as an animal

to take photographs of but as an animal that had been overlooked that needed

that had been overlooked that needed

that had been overlooked that needed scientific attention my attention and as

scientific attention my attention and as

scientific attention my attention and as happenstance would have it I had been

happenstance would have it I had been

happenstance would have it I had been doing exploratory diving off the very

doing exploratory diving off the very

doing exploratory diving off the very remote and undeveloped coastline of

remote and undeveloped coastline of

remote and undeveloped coastline of Mozambique and wow what an awesome time

Mozambique and wow what an awesome time

Mozambique and wow what an awesome time of my life you know

of my life you know

of my life you know diving places that maybe no one had ever

diving places that maybe no one had ever

diving places that maybe no one had ever drove before camping along uninhabited

drove before camping along uninhabited

drove before camping along uninhabited beaches I would recommend it it’s a

beaches I would recommend it it’s a

beaches I would recommend it it’s a great experience but as a biologist what

great experience but as a biologist what

great experience but as a biologist what really moved me what jumped out at me

really moved me what jumped out at me

really moved me what jumped out at me was just the number of megafauna off

was just the number of megafauna off

was just the number of megafauna off this coastline the abundance and

this coastline the abundance and

this coastline the abundance and diversity of megafires like the

diversity of megafires like the

diversity of megafires like the Galapagos of the Indian Ocean and you

Galapagos of the Indian Ocean and you

Galapagos of the Indian Ocean and you know every day on the way to our dives

know every day on the way to our dives

know every day on the way to our dives we were tripping over whale sharks and

we were tripping over whale sharks and

we were tripping over whale sharks and there was huge pods of dolphins and

there was huge pods of dolphins and

there was huge pods of dolphins and whales and you know other threatened

whales and you know other threatened

whales and you know other threatened marine life marine turtles and mantas

marine life marine turtles and mantas

marine life marine turtles and mantas important distinction lots of them so

important distinction lots of them so

important distinction lots of them so this was my opportunity this is my

this was my opportunity this is my

this was my opportunity this is my opportunity to give back do something an

opportunity to give back do something an

opportunity to give back do something an animal that had not been really worked

animal that had not been really worked

animal that had not been really worked on before probably for lack of

on before probably for lack of

on before probably for lack of opportunity and a paucity of data that

opportunity and a paucity of data that

opportunity and a paucity of data that was hampering its conservation status

was hampering its conservation status

was hampering its conservation status listing and so this was how I was going

listing and so this was how I was going

listing and so this was how I was going to contribute this is how I was going to

to contribute this is how I was going to

to contribute this is how I was going to give back and so I began the very slow

give back and so I began the very slow

give back and so I began the very slow road of trying to develop a research

road of trying to develop a research

road of trying to develop a research program out in the middle of nowhere on

program out in the middle of nowhere on

program out in the middle of nowhere on these animals and it was rough going at

these animals and it was rough going at

these animals and it was rough going at first it was logistically what a

first it was logistically what a

first it was logistically what a nightmare and it was expensive and messy

nightmare and it was expensive and messy

nightmare and it was expensive and messy often times I had to actually cash in my

often times I had to actually cash in my

often times I had to actually cash in my life savings as a young student to just

life savings as a young student to just

life savings as a young student to just fund a

fund a

fund a let’s study when my university in

let’s study when my university in

let’s study when my university in Australia found this idea a little out

Australia found this idea a little out

Australia found this idea a little out there and the fact was though is that I

there and the fact was though is that I

there and the fact was though is that I was learning things and I was inspired

was learning things and I was inspired

was learning things and I was inspired by that we were learning amazing things

by that we were learning amazing things

by that we were learning amazing things things that weren’t in any of the

things that weren’t in any of the

things that weren’t in any of the current literature on these animals so

current literature on these animals so

current literature on these animals so obviously we were doing something right

obviously we were doing something right

obviously we were doing something right and I wanted to keep going what seemed

and I wanted to keep going what seemed

and I wanted to keep going what seemed like an near impossible goal for a 23

like an near impossible goal for a 23

like an near impossible goal for a 23 year old American girl out in the middle

year old American girl out in the middle

year old American girl out in the middle of nowhere in Africa by herself slowly

of nowhere in Africa by herself slowly

of nowhere in Africa by herself slowly started to become something that could

started to become something that could

started to become something that could be possible and people rallied behind my

be possible and people rallied behind my

be possible and people rallied behind my efforts there it was so fantastic and in

efforts there it was so fantastic and in

efforts there it was so fantastic and in those early years I had to remember that

those early years I had to remember that

those early years I had to remember that I needed to pace myself that it had

I needed to pace myself that it had

I needed to pace myself that it had taken some of my greatest heroes a

taken some of my greatest heroes a

taken some of my greatest heroes a lifetime to tease out you know this

lifetime to tease out you know this

lifetime to tease out you know this ecological information on the animals

ecological information on the animals

ecological information on the animals they were working on and if I was going

they were working on and if I was going

they were working on and if I was going to go down that same road I would have

to go down that same road I would have

to go down that same road I would have to expect that was going to take me a

to expect that was going to take me a

to expect that was going to take me a long time too so like any good plan I

long time too so like any good plan I

long time too so like any good plan I needed a strategy and I thought back to

needed a strategy and I thought back to

needed a strategy and I thought back to the conservation assessment of this

the conservation assessment of this

the conservation assessment of this animals data deficient what was it

animals data deficient what was it

animals data deficient what was it missing biological information life

missing biological information life

missing biological information life history parameters abundance estimates

history parameters abundance estimates

history parameters abundance estimates population trends so that should be easy

population trends so that should be easy

population trends so that should be easy right but I took each challenge as a

right but I took each challenge as a

right but I took each challenge as a separate issue and and I devised a way

separate issue and and I devised a way

separate issue and and I devised a way of how to attack it my first issue was

of how to attack it my first issue was

of how to attack it my first issue was just how do we study these animals in

just how do we study these animals in

just how do we study these animals in the wild people had already identified

the wild people had already identified

the wild people had already identified that manta rays have individual spot

that manta rays have individual spot

that manta rays have individual spot patterning on them that’s individual to

patterning on them that’s individual to

patterning on them that’s individual to different animals you know like a

different animals you know like a

different animals you know like a fingerprint and what I wanted to know is

fingerprint and what I wanted to know is

fingerprint and what I wanted to know is could I take this individual patterning

could I take this individual patterning

could I take this individual patterning and use it as a mark a permanent mark

and use it as a mark a permanent mark

and use it as a mark a permanent mark and study these animals non-intrusive ly

and study these animals non-intrusive ly

and study these animals non-intrusive ly through photography carefully just

through photography carefully just

through photography carefully just making observations of individuals over

making observations of individuals over

making observations of individuals over time and learning more about them and

time and learning more about them and

time and learning more about them and then obviously collectively about

then obviously collectively about

then obviously collectively about populations that we were interested in

populations that we were interested in

populations that we were interested in and the answer to every single one of

and the answer to every single one of

and the answer to every single one of those questions is a resounding yes

those questions is a resounding yes

those questions is a resounding yes we can I’ve now spent thousands of dives

we can I’ve now spent thousands of dives

we can I’ve now spent thousands of dives under water carefully investigating

under water carefully investigating

under water carefully investigating these animals learning more about them

these animals learning more about them

these animals learning more about them we’ve learned about their natural

we’ve learned about their natural

we’ve learned about their natural behaviors they’re really secretive

behaviors they’re really secretive

behaviors they’re really secretive behaviors like reproductive ecology

behaviors like reproductive ecology

behaviors like reproductive ecology we’ve learned about their movements and

we’ve learned about their movements and

we’ve learned about their movements and their migrations through this

their migrations through this

their migrations through this methodology we were able to estimate for

methodology we were able to estimate for

methodology we were able to estimate for the very first time the abundance I had

the very first time the abundance I had

the very first time the abundance I had a monitored site something has never

a monitored site something has never

a monitored site something has never been attempted before we learned about

been attempted before we learned about

been attempted before we learned about their natural pressures from predation

their natural pressures from predation

their natural pressures from predation they’re not so natural

they’re not so natural

they’re not so natural from us I completed the first ph.d

from us I completed the first ph.d

from us I completed the first ph.d program first deep PhD project on manta

program first deep PhD project on manta

program first deep PhD project on manta rays demonstrating that these animals

rays demonstrating that these animals

rays demonstrating that these animals can and must continue to be studied in

can and must continue to be studied in

can and must continue to be studied in the wild I’m happy to say that there are

the wild I’m happy to say that there are

the wild I’m happy to say that there are many many PhD studies underway now for

many many PhD studies underway now for

many many PhD studies underway now for manta rays and in the middle of all of

manta rays and in the middle of all of

manta rays and in the middle of all of this we described a new species of manta

this we described a new species of manta

this we described a new species of manta it’s not my intention it just kind of

it’s not my intention it just kind of

it’s not my intention it just kind of popped up and it popped up early in my

popped up and it popped up early in my

popped up and it popped up early in my studies and the reason for it is because

studies and the reason for it is because

studies and the reason for it is because no one had really spent time in the wild

no one had really spent time in the wild

no one had really spent time in the wild with these animals before natural

with these animals before natural

with these animals before natural observation just wasn’t there and it’s

observation just wasn’t there and it’s

observation just wasn’t there and it’s and it’s not because they don’t look

and it’s not because they don’t look

and it’s not because they don’t look different because they do and they not

different because they do and they not

different because they do and they not just look different they behave

just look different they behave

just look different they behave different they lead different lives to a

different they lead different lives to a

different they lead different lives to a large extent they live in different

large extent they live in different

large extent they live in different places so that wasn’t the issue I at

places so that wasn’t the issue I at

places so that wasn’t the issue I at that time you know my work had had gone

that time you know my work had had gone

that time you know my work had had gone international and I was doing work

international and I was doing work

international and I was doing work across the globe and it was hard to

across the globe and it was hard to

across the globe and it was hard to ignore the the growing global trends

ignore the the growing global trends

ignore the the growing global trends Manta populations that were once stable

Manta populations that were once stable

Manta populations that were once stable were now in decline there’s rises and a

were now in decline there’s rises and a

were now in decline there’s rises and a new fishery for these animals where

new fishery for these animals where

new fishery for these animals where people would directly hunt mantas to

people would directly hunt mantas to

people would directly hunt mantas to extract their gill rakers to use in

extract their gill rakers to use in

extract their gill rakers to use in bogus Chinese medicinal tonic and even

bogus Chinese medicinal tonic and even

bogus Chinese medicinal tonic and even though this was really disturbing we

though this was really disturbing we

though this was really disturbing we were starting to say we’re gonna fight

were starting to say we’re gonna fight

were starting to say we’re gonna fight back we’re gonna use all the information

back we’re gonna use all the information

back we’re gonna use all the information that we’ve been ascertaining over the

that we’ve been ascertaining over the

that we’ve been ascertaining over the last decade to be able to fight this be

last decade to be able to fight this be

last decade to be able to fight this be able to work on conservation and we did

able to work on conservation and we did

able to work on conservation and we did we used all the information that we had

we used all the information that we had

we used all the information that we had to to fight that data deficient red list

to to fight that data deficient red list

to to fight that data deficient red list assessment and year after year we kept

assessment and year after year we kept

assessment and year after year we kept reevaluating them until finally in 2011

reevaluating them until finally in 2011

reevaluating them until finally in 2011 they were declared a threatened species

they were declared a threatened species

they were declared a threatened species worldwide as vulnerable to extinction

worldwide as vulnerable to extinction

worldwide as vulnerable to extinction and my research program changed

and my research program changed

and my research program changed overnight I abandoned you know worked on

overnight I abandoned you know worked on

overnight I abandoned you know worked on just pure ecology and then I put all my

just pure ecology and then I put all my

just pure ecology and then I put all my focus into conservation we started

focus into conservation we started

focus into conservation we started integrating technology into our research

integrating technology into our research

integrating technology into our research program so that we could better

program so that we could better

program so that we could better understand how to manage these these

understand how to manage these these

understand how to manage these these animals and the populations in different

animals and the populations in different

animals and the populations in different areas of the world deploying tags with

areas of the world deploying tags with

areas of the world deploying tags with advanced satellite technology we were

advanced satellite technology we were

advanced satellite technology we were able to track these animals where they

able to track these animals where they

able to track these animals where they went learn more about their migrations

went learn more about their migrations

went learn more about their migrations learn more about their habits and this

learn more about their habits and this

learn more about their habits and this technology improved in

technology improved in

technology improved in people for us we were able to understand

people for us we were able to understand

people for us we were able to understand for the first time that these animals

for the first time that these animals

for the first time that these animals travel long distances in short periods

travel long distances in short periods

travel long distances in short periods of time use vast horizontal planes in

of time use vast horizontal planes in

of time use vast horizontal planes in the ocean travel into the high seas

the ocean travel into the high seas

the ocean travel into the high seas unprotected areas and unbelievably are

unprotected areas and unbelievably are

unprotected areas and unbelievably are using really deep parts of our oceans

using really deep parts of our oceans

using really deep parts of our oceans the bath people ajik parts of our oceans

the bath people ajik parts of our oceans

the bath people ajik parts of our oceans over 4,500 feet from the surface what

over 4,500 feet from the surface what

over 4,500 feet from the surface what they’re doing down there

they’re doing down there

they’re doing down there I don’t know so the people that say that

I don’t know so the people that say that

I don’t know so the people that say that there’s nothing left to discover that

there’s nothing left to discover that

there’s nothing left to discover that that everything’s been done are you guys

that everything’s been done are you guys

that everything’s been done are you guys out of your mind

out of your mind

out of your mind you know ordinary people are discovering

you know ordinary people are discovering

you know ordinary people are discovering extraordinary things every day just pick

extraordinary things every day just pick

extraordinary things every day just pick up a National Geographic magazine right

up a National Geographic magazine right

up a National Geographic magazine right and you know for us we had totally

and you know for us we had totally

and you know for us we had totally underestimated this animal myself

underestimated this animal myself

underestimated this animal myself included and now that we had

included and now that we had

included and now that we had underestimated them and we were learning

underestimated them and we were learning

underestimated them and we were learning more about them we needed to act we

more about them we needed to act we

more about them we needed to act we needed to do something so with my

needed to do something so with my

needed to do something so with my Ecuadorian team we put together a

Ecuadorian team we put together a

Ecuadorian team we put together a proposal to list these animals on the

proposal to list these animals on the

proposal to list these animals on the convention for migratory species Act it

convention for migratory species Act it

convention for migratory species Act it was a bold move and we weren’t sure if

was a bold move and we weren’t sure if

was a bold move and we weren’t sure if it was going to work but because we had

it was going to work but because we had

it was going to work but because we had started collecting all of this

started collecting all of this

started collecting all of this information on these animals the

information on these animals the

information on these animals the proposal was full of good science and

proposal was full of good science and

proposal was full of good science and unbelievably in 2011 mantarays became

unbelievably in 2011 mantarays became

unbelievably in 2011 mantarays became the very first ray species in history to

the very first ray species in history to

the very first ray species in history to be listed on this act what about this

be listed on this act what about this

be listed on this act what about this unsustainable international fishing

unsustainable international fishing

unsustainable international fishing trade I was telling you about well that

trade I was telling you about well that

trade I was telling you about well that same Ecuadorian team and I put together

same Ecuadorian team and I put together

same Ecuadorian team and I put together a proposal not a year later to try and

a proposal not a year later to try and

a proposal not a year later to try and list these species actually both species

list these species actually both species

list these species actually both species of mantas on site YZ sides– is an

of mantas on site YZ sides– is an

of mantas on site YZ sides– is an intergovernmental treaty that aims to

intergovernmental treaty that aims to

intergovernmental treaty that aims to try and make sure that that

try and make sure that that

try and make sure that that international trade doesn’t negatively

international trade doesn’t negatively

international trade doesn’t negatively influence our wild flora and fauna and

influence our wild flora and fauna and

influence our wild flora and fauna and my team in Mozambique took our 10 year

my team in Mozambique took our 10 year

my team in Mozambique took our 10 year data sets and put together a publication

data sets and put together a publication

data sets and put together a publication to demonstrate that there have been an

to demonstrate that there have been an

to demonstrate that there have been an 88% decline in our population in the

88% decline in our population in the

88% decline in our population in the South of Mozambique over the last ten

South of Mozambique over the last ten

South of Mozambique over the last ten years in response to apparently a very

years in response to apparently a very

years in response to apparently a very small artisanal fisheries air and if

small artisanal fisheries air and if

small artisanal fisheries air and if that wasn’t evidence enough of why we

that wasn’t evidence enough of why we

that wasn’t evidence enough of why we needed to protect them we also

needed to protect them we also

needed to protect them we also demonstrated through our reproductive

demonstrated through our reproductive

demonstrated through our reproductive ecology worked at these are some of the

ecology worked at these are some of the

ecology worked at these are some of the most

most

most serve ative animals especially in the

serve ative animals especially in the

serve ative animals especially in the shark and Ray group that there that

shark and Ray group that there that

shark and Ray group that there that there are manta rays have very small

there are manta rays have very small

there are manta rays have very small litter sizes they only have one baby

litter sizes they only have one baby

litter sizes they only have one baby every two to three years or so on

every two to three years or so on

every two to three years or so on average to give it to you in other terms

average to give it to you in other terms

average to give it to you in other terms most shark and Ray species will have

most shark and Ray species will have

most shark and Ray species will have more offspring in a single litter than

more offspring in a single litter than

more offspring in a single litter than manta rays will have over the entire

manta rays will have over the entire

manta rays will have over the entire course of their lifetime so we started

course of their lifetime so we started

course of their lifetime so we started to use these this different information

to use these this different information

to use these this different information and probably one of the most passionate

and probably one of the most passionate

and probably one of the most passionate appeals that I’ve ever seen to

appeals that I’ve ever seen to

appeals that I’ve ever seen to government to try and get these animals

government to try and get these animals

government to try and get these animals listed on CDs and in Bangkok this year

listed on CDs and in Bangkok this year

listed on CDs and in Bangkok this year in March we were successful in getting

in March we were successful in getting

in March we were successful in getting them awarded appendix to listing it was

them awarded appendix to listing it was

them awarded appendix to listing it was just awesome I was really moved by

just awesome I was really moved by

just awesome I was really moved by international collaboration researchers

international collaboration researchers

international collaboration researchers coming together for this common cause I

coming together for this common cause I

coming together for this common cause I was really moved by the fact that the

was really moved by the fact that the

was really moved by the fact that the public was behind us and I wanted to

public was behind us and I wanted to

public was behind us and I wanted to harness that passion and that support

harness that passion and that support

harness that passion and that support from the public so I had this idea to

from the public so I had this idea to

from the public so I had this idea to create the first automated global online

create the first automated global online

create the first automated global online database for manta rays it’s called

database for manta rays it’s called

database for manta rays it’s called manta matcher it’s not a manta ray

manta matcher it’s not a manta ray

manta matcher it’s not a manta ray dating site what it’s supposed to do is

dating site what it’s supposed to do is

dating site what it’s supposed to do is it’s supposed to promote the ordinary

it’s supposed to promote the ordinary

it’s supposed to promote the ordinary people to pick up a camera and

people to pick up a camera and

people to pick up a camera and contribute to a global scientific

contribute to a global scientific

contribute to a global scientific initiative and it helps researchers use

initiative and it helps researchers use

initiative and it helps researchers use their data and helps them share their

their data and helps them share their

their data and helps them share their data with other researchers because

data with other researchers because

data with other researchers because international collaboration is just so

international collaboration is just so

international collaboration is just so important and the result is quite

important and the result is quite

important and the result is quite literally one of the best examples that

literally one of the best examples that

literally one of the best examples that I’ve currently seen on a

I’ve currently seen on a

I’ve currently seen on a multidisciplinary approach to solving a

multidisciplinary approach to solving a

multidisciplinary approach to solving a wildlife conservation issue through you

wildlife conservation issue through you

wildlife conservation issue through you know shared collaborative research and

know shared collaborative research and

know shared collaborative research and also public support that’s what we need

also public support that’s what we need

also public support that’s what we need to be striving towards I think two

to be striving towards I think two

to be striving towards I think two decades ago we knew almost nothing about

decades ago we knew almost nothing about

decades ago we knew almost nothing about the world’s largest Ray what we have

the world’s largest Ray what we have

the world’s largest Ray what we have found out has shocked us as broken

found out has shocked us as broken

found out has shocked us as broken natural records has inspired us to

natural records has inspired us to

natural records has inspired us to evolve new ways to how to protect them

evolve new ways to how to protect them

evolve new ways to how to protect them you know it’s amazing what we can

you know it’s amazing what we can

you know it’s amazing what we can achieve it’s a real testament it speaks

achieve it’s a real testament it speaks

achieve it’s a real testament it speaks to the heart of exploration and what we

to the heart of exploration and what we

to the heart of exploration and what we as humans can do if we set our mind to

as humans can do if we set our mind to

as humans can do if we set our mind to it

it

it obsessive specie ologist

obsessive specie ologist

obsessive specie ologist maybe but I think the problems of the

maybe but I think the problems of the

maybe but I think the problems of the oceans are going to be solved one

oceans are going to be solved one

oceans are going to be solved one species

species

species at a time region by region saving one

at a time region by region saving one

at a time region by region saving one critical habitat after the next that’s

critical habitat after the next that’s

critical habitat after the next that’s what I believe and I know that a lot of

what I believe and I know that a lot of

what I believe and I know that a lot of things need to change how we as humans

things need to change how we as humans

things need to change how we as humans view the ocean how we use this resource

view the ocean how we use this resource

view the ocean how we use this resource our impacts on it but I I truly feel

our impacts on it but I I truly feel

our impacts on it but I I truly feel that we have to inspire exploration and

that we have to inspire exploration and

that we have to inspire exploration and we have to allow people to be creative

we have to allow people to be creative

we have to allow people to be creative we have to encourage people to dare to

we have to encourage people to dare to

we have to encourage people to dare to make a difference to use each one of our

make a difference to use each one of our

make a difference to use each one of our individual talents and we all have so

individual talents and we all have so

individual talents and we all have so many to try and solve these problems

many to try and solve these problems

many to try and solve these problems I’ve taken on the challenge of trying to

I’ve taken on the challenge of trying to

I’ve taken on the challenge of trying to save some of the oceans largest fish and

save some of the oceans largest fish and

save some of the oceans largest fish and I’m trying to create a manta army to

I’m trying to create a manta army to

I’m trying to create a manta army to help me do so but I think if we’re going

help me do so but I think if we’re going

help me do so but I think if we’re going to change the future of our oceans and

to change the future of our oceans and

to change the future of our oceans and change the future of our planet we need

change the future of our planet we need

change the future of our planet we need to encourage these people to dare to

to encourage these people to dare to

to encourage these people to dare to make a difference we need more explorers

make a difference we need more explorers

make a difference we need more explorers we need more ambassadors we need more

we need more ambassadors we need more

we need more ambassadors we need more people to to dream big and I’m so proud

people to to dream big and I’m so proud

people to to dream big and I’m so proud to be a part of a organization now that

to be a part of a organization now that

to be a part of a organization now that is helping to to push that philosophy

is helping to to push that philosophy

is helping to to push that philosophy and who really believes in exploration

and who really believes in exploration

and who really believes in exploration so thank you very much and I look

so thank you very much and I look

so thank you very much and I look forward to talking with each and every

forward to talking with each and every

forward to talking with each and every one of you hopefully over the course of

one of you hopefully over the course of

one of you hopefully over the course of this week

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