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Solving the STRUGGLES of an early stage student startup ft. @nightfoodieTO


and we are live welcome everybody

and we are live welcome everybody another YouTube hang out third one of

another YouTube hang out third one of

another YouTube hang out third one of the day super excited to be on with a

the day super excited to be on with a

the day super excited to be on with a student entrepreneurs ieave who I met at

student entrepreneurs ieave who I met at

student entrepreneurs ieave who I met at a startup event here in Toronto I was at

a startup event here in Toronto I was at

a startup event here in Toronto I was at a meeting with the mayor on a panel kind

a meeting with the mayor on a panel kind

a meeting with the mayor on a panel kind of helping figure out what Toronto could

of helping figure out what Toronto could

of helping figure out what Toronto could do to encourage more startups and and we

do to encourage more startups and and we

do to encourage more startups and and we met and he wrote to me to say hey Kim

met and he wrote to me to say hey Kim

met and he wrote to me to say hey Kim can we connect again I have some

can we connect again I have some

can we connect again I have some questions and I said let’s turn it into

questions and I said let’s turn it into

questions and I said let’s turn it into a YouTube hang out so we can inspire

a YouTube hang out so we can inspire

a YouTube hang out so we can inspire other student entrepreneurs as well this

other student entrepreneurs as well this

other student entrepreneurs as well this is his very first time on a YouTube

is his very first time on a YouTube

is his very first time on a YouTube hangout so let’s be nice and welcome

hangout so let’s be nice and welcome

hangout so let’s be nice and welcome aboard safe thanks thanks for having me

aboard safe thanks thanks for having me

aboard safe thanks thanks for having me Evan pleasure to be here so you’ve got

Evan pleasure to be here so you’ve got

Evan pleasure to be here so you’ve got you got me for half an hour let’s do it

you got me for half an hour let’s do it

you got me for half an hour let’s do it what questions you have how can I help

what questions you have how can I help

what questions you have how can I help yeah yeah sure um I guess I’ll just do

yeah yeah sure um I guess I’ll just do

yeah yeah sure um I guess I’ll just do the one minute little intro to my

the one minute little intro to my

the one minute little intro to my business again so i’m working on a

business again so i’m working on a

business again so i’m working on a platform called night foodie where i

platform called night foodie where i

platform called night foodie where i help connect consumers to timely

help connect consumers to timely

help connect consumers to timely discount food deals anytime anywhere and

discount food deals anytime anywhere and

discount food deals anytime anywhere and the whole goal is to help reduce surplus

the whole goal is to help reduce surplus

the whole goal is to help reduce surplus food waste by getting consumers to the

food waste by getting consumers to the

food waste by getting consumers to the perishable foods same day same day foods

perishable foods same day same day foods

perishable foods same day same day foods and we’re working on the platform

and we’re working on the platform

and we’re working on the platform through the application through an app

through the application through an app

through the application through an app so there’s two apps one on consumer side

so there’s two apps one on consumer side

so there’s two apps one on consumer side one of the partners item we try to help

one of the partners item we try to help

one of the partners item we try to help connect them that’s the that’s the angle

connect them that’s the that’s the angle

connect them that’s the that’s the angle i guess a couple my questions really

i guess a couple my questions really

i guess a couple my questions really stem from business development and from

stem from business development and from

stem from business development and from hearing about your story you worked at a

hearing about your story you worked at a

hearing about your story you worked at a biotech startup and you helped grow that

biotech startup and you helped grow that

biotech startup and you helped grow that in the business side so we’re still

in the business side so we’re still

in the business side so we’re still pretty early stages i just landed my

pretty early stages i just landed my

pretty early stages i just landed my first two partners officially like last

first two partners officially like last

first two partners officially like last week so that was pretty exciting and i

week so that was pretty exciting and i

week so that was pretty exciting and i want you to know how to I guess expand

want you to know how to I guess expand

want you to know how to I guess expand more and faster with like as a little

more and faster with like as a little

more and faster with like as a little manpower as I have right now so who the

manpower as I have right now so who the

manpower as I have right now so who the two partners that you brought on so I

two partners that you brought on so I

two partners that you brought on so I prod brought on one sushi place and the

prod brought on one sushi place and the

prod brought on one sushi place and the other one is sushi / during such a sort

other one is sushi / during such a sort

other one is sushi / during such a sort assortment of stuff so one of them is

assortment of stuff so one of them is

assortment of stuff so one of them is called mocking my way and the other ones

called mocking my way and the other ones

called mocking my way and the other ones broking they’re both situated downtown

broking they’re both situated downtown

broking they’re both situated downtown Toronto so what I would do is over when

Toronto so what I would do is over when

Toronto so what I would do is over when you are first setting up you got to be

you are first setting up you got to be

you are first setting up you got to be able to provide value to your customers

able to provide value to your customers

able to provide value to your customers and so yeah it happens so many times you

and so yeah it happens so many times you

and so yeah it happens so many times you come up with a business model and say

come up with a business model and say

come up with a business model and say this is how I’m gonna make money is how

this is how I’m gonna make money is how

this is how I’m gonna make money is how I’m going to provide value and then it

I’m going to provide value and then it

I’m going to provide value and then it and then it changes because your

and then it changes because your

and then it changes because your assumptions are wrong you didn’t have

assumptions are wrong you didn’t have

assumptions are wrong you didn’t have the right idea you know I changed my

the right idea you know I changed my

the right idea you know I changed my business too and I missed a huge

business too and I missed a huge

business too and I missed a huge opportunity because we didn’t pivot

opportunity because we didn’t pivot

opportunity because we didn’t pivot passin up to it so what I would be doing

passin up to it so what I would be doing

passin up to it so what I would be doing is those start with those to really get

is those start with those to really get

is those start with those to really get an understanding of their business

an understanding of their business

an understanding of their business problems and how you can help solve them

problems and how you can help solve them

problems and how you can help solve them right branch out from there to look at

right branch out from there to look at

right branch out from there to look at is this something that you can offer on

is this something that you can offer on

is this something that you can offer on a geographic area so if you’re doing

a geographic area so if you’re doing

a geographic area so if you’re doing downtown does it help you to be able to

downtown does it help you to be able to

downtown does it help you to be able to connect with all the other downtown

connect with all the other downtown

connect with all the other downtown places right within three blocks of both

places right within three blocks of both

places right within three blocks of both of those sushi restaurants there’s got

of those sushi restaurants there’s got

of those sushi restaurants there’s got to be tons of other restaurants you can

to be tons of other restaurants you can

to be tons of other restaurants you can connect to introduce yourself to but you

connect to introduce yourself to but you

connect to introduce yourself to but you have to have a strong value prop to be

have to have a strong value prop to be

have to have a strong value prop to be able to know their problems and address

able to know their problems and address

able to know their problems and address them through your service it’s

them through your service it’s

them through your service it’s interesting that both our sushi so the

interesting that both our sushi so the

interesting that both our sushi so the other option is to not just go

other option is to not just go

other option is to not just go Geographic but also targeted towards an

Geographic but also targeted towards an

Geographic but also targeted towards an industry so can you be the guy for the

industry so can you be the guy for the

industry so can you be the guy for the sushi business and then spread out

sushi business and then spread out

sushi business and then spread out across the city and then eventually go

across the city and then eventually go

across the city and then eventually go national global uh you know so are there

national global uh you know so are there

national global uh you know so are there other specific problems of the sushi

other specific problems of the sushi

other specific problems of the sushi restaurant business that you saw that

restaurant business that you saw that

restaurant business that you saw that doesn’t apply as well to a bagel shop to

doesn’t apply as well to a bagel shop to

doesn’t apply as well to a bagel shop to a diner or you know can to be everything

a diner or you know can to be everything

a diner or you know can to be everything can you help everybody right so that

can you help everybody right so that

can you help everybody right so that comes from really understanding the two

comes from really understanding the two

comes from really understanding the two businesses that you already have as

businesses that you already have as

businesses that you already have as clients before worrying about going

clients before worrying about going

clients before worrying about going crazy expansion and providing massive

crazy expansion and providing massive

crazy expansion and providing massive value to those two clients so they love

value to those two clients so they love

value to those two clients so they love you and can’t imagine their business now

you and can’t imagine their business now

you and can’t imagine their business now without you one of the one of the things

without you one of the one of the things

without you one of the one of the things with the the platform working on right

with the the platform working on right

with the the platform working on right now is it’s still in development so it’s

now is it’s still in development so it’s

now is it’s still in development so it’s not fully out yet a lot of the times I’m

not fully out yet a lot of the times I’m

not fully out yet a lot of the times I’m trying to sell the cell the partners on

trying to sell the cell the partners on

trying to sell the cell the partners on the idea and sure showcasing them the

the idea and sure showcasing them the

the idea and sure showcasing them the beta that we have right now um so I

beta that we have right now um so I

beta that we have right now um so I liked how you said you’re supposed to

liked how you said you’re supposed to

liked how you said you’re supposed to target the different you should be

target the different you should be

target the different you should be focusing on like the different types of

focusing on like the different types of

focusing on like the different types of stores and food stores and rightfully so

stores and food stores and rightfully so

stores and food stores and rightfully so like we’ve been trying to target more

like we’ve been trying to target more

like we’ve been trying to target more bakeries sushi places bagel shops

bakeries sushi places bagel shops

bakeries sushi places bagel shops because they make a lot

because they make a lot

because they make a lot more sense for the surplus food and

more sense for the surplus food and

more sense for the surplus food and currently what we’ve been trying to do

currently what we’ve been trying to do

currently what we’ve been trying to do is a little different because again the

is a little different because again the

is a little different because again the product wasn’t fully developed and

product wasn’t fully developed and

product wasn’t fully developed and finished yet so we’re trying to do right

finished yet so we’re trying to do right

finished yet so we’re trying to do right now is just to populate the app with a

now is just to populate the app with a

now is just to populate the app with a bunch of discount food deals that

bunch of discount food deals that

bunch of discount food deals that already exist at a bunch of places so

already exist at a bunch of places so

already exist at a bunch of places so for example I’m mocking my way they have

for example I’m mocking my way they have

for example I’m mocking my way they have like from three to six certain certain

like from three to six certain certain

like from three to six certain certain percentage off certain prices sorry

percentage off certain prices sorry

percentage off certain prices sorry certain percentage of certain items and

certain percentage of certain items and

certain percentage of certain items and what we did was we took some of those

what we did was we took some of those

what we did was we took some of those deals and we just put it right in the

deals and we just put it right in the

deals and we just put it right in the platform just a way to grow a little bit

platform just a way to grow a little bit

platform just a way to grow a little bit of the user base and partners and then I

of the user base and partners and then I

of the user base and partners and then I plan on telling them about the whole

plan on telling them about the whole

plan on telling them about the whole surplus side even though I did initially

surplus side even though I did initially

surplus side even though I did initially mention it to them but for now we’re

mention it to them but for now we’re

mention it to them but for now we’re that’s sort of what we’re doing even

that’s sort of what we’re doing even

that’s sort of what we’re doing even though it were not targeting the surplus

though it were not targeting the surplus

though it were not targeting the surplus food right away that should inherently

food right away that should inherently

food right away that should inherently still reduce surplus food I just one of

still reduce surplus food I just one of

still reduce surplus food I just one of your thoughts on that so we’re a little

your thoughts on that so we’re a little

your thoughts on that so we’re a little different than what we’re aiming to do

different than what we’re aiming to do

different than what we’re aiming to do right now yeah so you want to make sure

right now yeah so you want to make sure

right now yeah so you want to make sure that you want to make sure that your

that you want to make sure that your

that you want to make sure that your offer is related to the service that you

offer is related to the service that you

offer is related to the service that you want to eventually really add value on

want to eventually really add value on

want to eventually really add value on right otherwise it may mean like that

right otherwise it may mean like that

right otherwise it may mean like that you’re spending time with the wrong

you’re spending time with the wrong

you’re spending time with the wrong customers so these sushi guys may say

customers so these sushi guys may say

customers so these sushi guys may say yes great we have these sales from three

yes great we have these sales from three

yes great we have these sales from three to five happy hour whatever lifts those

to five happy hour whatever lifts those

to five happy hour whatever lifts those but we don’t have any surplus food

but we don’t have any surplus food

but we don’t have any surplus food problems that we don’t we don’t have

problems that we don’t we don’t have

problems that we don’t we don’t have time to deal with that or send a big

time to deal with that or send a big

time to deal with that or send a big problem for us where you’ve invested all

problem for us where you’ve invested all

problem for us where you’ve invested all this time when your relationship with

this time when your relationship with

this time when your relationship with trying to build that up and you’re going

trying to build that up and you’re going

trying to build that up and you’re going down a path of solving one problem for

down a path of solving one problem for

down a path of solving one problem for them which is just exposure but not the

them which is just exposure but not the

them which is just exposure but not the one that you want to try to solve for

one that you want to try to solve for

one that you want to try to solve for them right so that becomes a challenge

them right so that becomes a challenge

them right so that becomes a challenge if you’re opening up the door but it may

if you’re opening up the door but it may

if you’re opening up the door but it may not be the right door and that may not

not be the right door and that may not

not be the right door and that may not lead to the place that you want to go

lead to the place that you want to go

lead to the place that you want to go the side part of that is like how

the side part of that is like how

the side part of that is like how committed are you to this food surplus

committed are you to this food surplus

committed are you to this food surplus idea because by opening up these doors

idea because by opening up these doors

idea because by opening up these doors to the retailer’s it may lead to other

to the retailer’s it may lead to other

to the retailer’s it may lead to other opportunities that you didn’t even think

opportunities that you didn’t even think

opportunities that you didn’t even think about but by talking to them it leads to

about but by talking to them it leads to

about but by talking to them it leads to business now you gotta still be passion

business now you gotta still be passion

business now you gotta still be passion about that business not just jump on an

about that business not just jump on an

about that business not just jump on an opportunity but I think of wrigley if

opportunity but I think of wrigley if

opportunity but I think of wrigley if you look at remember Wrigley’s the gum

you look at remember Wrigley’s the gum

you look at remember Wrigley’s the gum right they can start of office as

right they can start of office as

right they can start of office as get what it was I think they started off

get what it was I think they started off

get what it was I think they started off as like a baking soda company and then

as like a baking soda company and then

as like a baking soda company and then they started giving soap away as a free

they started giving soap away as a free

they started giving soap away as a free bonus and then the soap became so

bonus and then the soap became so

bonus and then the soap became so popular they started becoming a soap

popular they started becoming a soap

popular they started becoming a soap company like a forget baking soda we’re

company like a forget baking soda we’re

company like a forget baking soda we’re going to do so so Brett learns that and

going to do so so Brett learns that and

going to do so so Brett learns that and he had soap and they gave away gum as a

he had soap and they gave away gum as a

he had soap and they gave away gum as a bonus by five things a soap would give

bonus by five things a soap would give

bonus by five things a soap would give you gum people love the gum so much they

you gum people love the gum so much they

you gum people love the gum so much they said if you forget so we’re going to

said if you forget so we’re going to

said if you forget so we’re going to sell gum and then gum became the thing

sell gum and then gum became the thing

sell gum and then gum became the thing that they took off with so we’re said

that they took off with so we’re said

that they took off with so we’re said they were giving away in providing

they were giving away in providing

they were giving away in providing unrelated products and eventually one

unrelated products and eventually one

unrelated products and eventually one hit and that became their business so I

hit and that became their business so I

hit and that became their business so I guess it depends on what your vision is

guess it depends on what your vision is

guess it depends on what your vision is because if you want to be in the surplus

because if you want to be in the surplus

because if you want to be in the surplus food business and solving that problem

food business and solving that problem

food business and solving that problem because you know wasted food is a

because you know wasted food is a

because you know wasted food is a passion of yours and you don’t want to

passion of yours and you don’t want to

passion of yours and you don’t want to see food wasted anymore you know

see food wasted anymore you know

see food wasted anymore you know whatever your story is behind that then

whatever your story is behind that then

whatever your story is behind that then this would not be the best way in

this would not be the best way in

this would not be the best way in because you don’t know that these guys

because you don’t know that these guys

because you don’t know that these guys would even care about that service from

would even care about that service from

would even care about that service from where it’s better the target restaurants

where it’s better the target restaurants

where it’s better the target restaurants who are open conversation like yeah this

who are open conversation like yeah this

who are open conversation like yeah this is a problem for us and maybe you don’t

is a problem for us and maybe you don’t

is a problem for us and maybe you don’t have the answer yet you know but you

have the answer yet you know but you

have the answer yet you know but you have a discussion somebody’s willing to

have a discussion somebody’s willing to

have a discussion somebody’s willing to sit down and talk to you about it if

sit down and talk to you about it if

sit down and talk to you about it if your goal is just I want to get to know

your goal is just I want to get to know

your goal is just I want to get to know restaurants and see what kind of

restaurants and see what kind of

restaurants and see what kind of business I can make for them this is an

business I can make for them this is an

business I can make for them this is an easy way in so I’m just constant of you

easy way in so I’m just constant of you

easy way in so I’m just constant of you spending your time on a wrong thing and

spending your time on a wrong thing and

spending your time on a wrong thing and it has to align with what your ultimate

it has to align with what your ultimate

it has to align with what your ultimate vision is so it’s not necessarily wrong

vision is so it’s not necessarily wrong

vision is so it’s not necessarily wrong just depends on which way you want to go

just depends on which way you want to go

just depends on which way you want to go okay it’s interesting yeah yeah I’m

okay it’s interesting yeah yeah I’m

okay it’s interesting yeah yeah I’m gonna have to give that another thought

gonna have to give that another thought

gonna have to give that another thought because some a lot of sort of the

because some a lot of sort of the

because some a lot of sort of the opportunity that I’m chasing right now

opportunity that I’m chasing right now

opportunity that I’m chasing right now it’s it’s it’s an idea that just came to

it’s it’s it’s an idea that just came to

it’s it’s it’s an idea that just came to me and it’s a problem I face personally

me and it’s a problem I face personally

me and it’s a problem I face personally I wouldn’t say this was the one hundred

I wouldn’t say this was the one hundred

I wouldn’t say this was the one hundred percent passion that I’ve always had

percent passion that I’ve always had

percent passion that I’ve always had about food waste know what not but it

about food waste know what not but it

about food waste know what not but it did it was a problem and then when I

did it was a problem and then when I

did it was a problem and then when I started talking to other people it’s

started talking to other people it’s

started talking to other people it’s like yeah we we do this and this happens

like yeah we we do this and this happens

like yeah we we do this and this happens and so I I got some approval on that

and so I I got some approval on that

and so I I got some approval on that sort of sense and validation so that’s

sort of sense and validation so that’s

sort of sense and validation so that’s our the basis for it but I’m definitely

our the basis for it but I’m definitely

our the basis for it but I’m definitely open to pivoting the idea if need be but

open to pivoting the idea if need be but

open to pivoting the idea if need be but i’ll keep I’ll keep that in mind when

i’ll keep I’ll keep that in mind when

i’ll keep I’ll keep that in mind when I’m trying to target target the right

I’m trying to target target the right

I’m trying to target target the right people for the for the right product and

people for the for the right product and

people for the for the right product and when you

when you

when you pivoting it should be to something that

pivoting it should be to something that

pivoting it should be to something that you have passion for not just because

you have passion for not just because

you have passion for not just because you see an opportunity in so if you you

you see an opportunity in so if you you

you see an opportunity in so if you you know so okay so here you know I have

know so okay so here you know I have

know so okay so here you know I have these canvases on my wall if you’re in

these canvases on my wall if you’re in

these canvases on my wall if you’re in the canvas the printing campus business

the canvas the printing campus business

the canvas the printing campus business and you believe people need to have a

and you believe people need to have a

and you believe people need to have a great environment to work in and that

great environment to work in and that

great environment to work in and that inspires them you might want to talk to

inspires them you might want to talk to

inspires them you might want to talk to youtubers who are broadcasting shows

youtubers who are broadcasting shows

youtubers who are broadcasting shows with stuff and make their background

with stuff and make their background

with stuff and make their background more you know interesting inspiring

more you know interesting inspiring

more you know interesting inspiring motivation or whatever if you come to me

motivation or whatever if you come to me

motivation or whatever if you come to me as youtuber and say hey Evan I’d like to

as youtuber and say hey Evan I’d like to

as youtuber and say hey Evan I’d like to talk about this new plan I have to help

talk about this new plan I have to help

talk about this new plan I have to help promote your channel through advertising

promote your channel through advertising

promote your channel through advertising or whatever great i might be interested

or whatever great i might be interested

or whatever great i might be interested because i want to promote my channel but

because i want to promote my channel but

because i want to promote my channel but it doesn’t mean that i have an interest

it doesn’t mean that i have an interest

it doesn’t mean that i have an interest in your canvases right so you can keep

in your canvases right so you can keep

in your canvases right so you can keep talk to me about this and we may start a

talk to me about this and we may start a

talk to me about this and we may start a relationship around this thing which

relationship around this thing which

relationship around this thing which you’re not making any money off of

you’re not making any money off of

you’re not making any money off of you’re just trying to build a

you’re just trying to build a

you’re just trying to build a relationship but it’s not to like I’m

relationship but it’s not to like I’m

relationship but it’s not to like I’m never going to buy from you I’m not

never going to buy from you I’m not

never going to buy from you I’m not interested I already have my camera says

interested I already have my camera says

interested I already have my camera says I don’t want anymore you never even

I don’t want anymore you never even

I don’t want anymore you never even asked me if I was you know curious about

asked me if I was you know curious about

asked me if I was you know curious about it and so is there a different model

it and so is there a different model

it and so is there a different model they can then sell those youtubers on

they can then sell those youtubers on

they can then sell those youtubers on something else sure but is that what

something else sure but is that what

something else sure but is that what you’re passionate about becomes

you’re passionate about becomes

you’re passionate about becomes important okay uh yeah I guess I’ll move

important okay uh yeah I guess I’ll move

important okay uh yeah I guess I’ll move on to my second little question um I was

on to my second little question um I was

on to my second little question um I was thinking about so when I was dabbling in

thinking about so when I was dabbling in

thinking about so when I was dabbling in the space in this or like my very first

the space in this or like my very first

the space in this or like my very first startup doing all this is asking a lot

startup doing all this is asking a lot

startup doing all this is asking a lot of people for opinions advice some from

of people for opinions advice some from

of people for opinions advice some from people just like yourself and could you

people just like yourself and could you

people just like yourself and could you speak a little about about understanding

speak a little about about understanding

speak a little about about understanding what is the right advice to take because

what is the right advice to take because

what is the right advice to take because it sometimes it can be confusing because

it sometimes it can be confusing because

it sometimes it can be confusing because a lot of people give do this do that or

a lot of people give do this do that or

a lot of people give do this do that or this work really well for me and

this work really well for me and

this work really well for me and sometimes I can get in my own little

sometimes I can get in my own little

sometimes I can get in my own little head space sure you know first

head space sure you know first

head space sure you know first understand with any advice it’s it’s

understand with any advice it’s it’s

understand with any advice it’s it’s it’s those people seen the world through

it’s those people seen the world through

it’s those people seen the world through their eyes right so they have

their eyes right so they have

their eyes right so they have experiences and contacts that may not be

experiences and contacts that may not be

experiences and contacts that may not be relevant to you and so you need to take

relevant to you and so you need to take

relevant to you and so you need to take everything with a grain of salt and a

everything with a grain of salt and a

everything with a grain of salt and a good mentor will will not just be

good mentor will will not just be

good mentor will will not just be absolute like it won’t be this is the

absolute like it won’t be this is the

absolute like it won’t be this is the only way to do it

only way to do it

only way to do it this is what worked for me so I listened

this is what worked for me so I listened

this is what worked for me so I listened to advice one I would say for me it’s I

to advice one I would say for me it’s I

to advice one I would say for me it’s I want to first figure out what I’m super

want to first figure out what I’m super

want to first figure out what I’m super passionate about like I would rather I

passionate about like I would rather I

passionate about like I would rather I think if you are going up to people and

think if you are going up to people and

think if you are going up to people and saying hey I’m thinking about a business

saying hey I’m thinking about a business

saying hey I’m thinking about a business which business you think i should start

which business you think i should start

which business you think i should start I think that’s the wrong approach

I think that’s the wrong approach

I think that’s the wrong approach because I think you can make a business

because I think you can make a business

because I think you can make a business out of anything when you are super

out of anything when you are super

out of anything when you are super passionate about it this is about

passionate about it this is about

passionate about it this is about providing value you can provide value to

providing value you can provide value to

providing value you can provide value to somebody you’ll make money and the

somebody you’ll make money and the

somebody you’ll make money and the easiest way to provide value is if you

easiest way to provide value is if you

easiest way to provide value is if you have a passion a love of what you’re

have a passion a love of what you’re

have a passion a love of what you’re doing and of helping a customer so

doing and of helping a customer so

doing and of helping a customer so that’s just coming back to the point of

that’s just coming back to the point of

that’s just coming back to the point of view if you love the idea of solving the

view if you love the idea of solving the

view if you love the idea of solving the surplus food waste thing you know if you

surplus food waste thing you know if you

surplus food waste thing you know if you know you saw on TV people who are

know you saw on TV people who are

know you saw on TV people who are struggling and can’t survive and aren’t

struggling and can’t survive and aren’t

struggling and can’t survive and aren’t eating and you hate the idea that people

eating and you hate the idea that people

eating and you hate the idea that people around the world don’t have food and

around the world don’t have food and

around the world don’t have food and here we are with all the surplus food

here we are with all the surplus food

here we are with all the surplus food and you want you know like if that’s

and you want you know like if that’s

and you want you know like if that’s like that’s your core mission like

like that’s your core mission like

like that’s your core mission like that’s what means helping to you then

that’s what means helping to you then

that’s what means helping to you then then then you may be going down the

then then you may be going down the

then then you may be going down the wrong path that just mean these

wrong path that just mean these

wrong path that just mean these restaurants and hasn’t let the sales so

restaurants and hasn’t let the sales so

restaurants and hasn’t let the sales so I think it’s better to say if it were me

I think it’s better to say if it were me

I think it’s better to say if it were me it’d be better to say I have a passion

it’d be better to say I have a passion

it’d be better to say I have a passion for this these are some of my interest

for this these are some of my interest

for this these are some of my interest how do I turn this into a business

how do I turn this into a business

how do I turn this into a business opportunity because what I may think

opportunity because what I may think

opportunity because what I may think it’s a business like I see business

it’s a business like I see business

it’s a business like I see business opportunities everywhere right but you

opportunities everywhere right but you

opportunities everywhere right but you may not be interested in it so for me to

may not be interested in it so for me to

may not be interested in it so for me to tell you hey listen that’s the wrong

tell you hey listen that’s the wrong

tell you hey listen that’s the wrong idea go do this you can just open up the

idea go do this you can just open up the

idea go do this you can just open up the list of the ink magazine top 100 hottest

list of the ink magazine top 100 hottest

list of the ink magazine top 100 hottest businesses to start and just go do that

businesses to start and just go do that

businesses to start and just go do that but if you don’t have a passion for any

but if you don’t have a passion for any

but if you don’t have a passion for any of those you won’t be successful so just

of those you won’t be successful so just

of those you won’t be successful so just because something is taken off and is

because something is taken off and is

because something is taken off and is hot doesn’t mean you have a business so

hot doesn’t mean you have a business so

hot doesn’t mean you have a business so I would be looking at trying to have

I would be looking at trying to have

I would be looking at trying to have some self-awareness to figure out what

some self-awareness to figure out what

some self-awareness to figure out what you love and then ask people hey how do

you love and then ask people hey how do

you love and then ask people hey how do you think I can make a business off of

you think I can make a business off of

you think I can make a business off of this right and it’s then start

this right and it’s then start

this right and it’s then start brainstorming they’re the best people to

brainstorming they’re the best people to

brainstorming they’re the best people to talk to our people who’ve already done

talk to our people who’ve already done

talk to our people who’ve already done what you are trying to do it can give

what you are trying to do it can give

what you are trying to do it can give you some insight a lot of people you

you some insight a lot of people you

you some insight a lot of people you know first reaction you go talk to their

know first reaction you go talk to their

know first reaction you go talk to their parents they go talk to their friends

parents they go talk to their friends

parents they go talk to their friends the fact that people were currently

the fact that people were currently

the fact that people were currently around them and they may get a lot of

around them and they may get a lot of

around them and they may get a lot of hate they may get like

hate they may get like

hate they may get like if you tell your parents hate mom and

if you tell your parents hate mom and

if you tell your parents hate mom and dad I want to start this business they

dad I want to start this business they

dad I want to start this business they may say that’s crazy go and get a safe

may say that’s crazy go and get a safe

may say that’s crazy go and get a safe job and be an accountant or a doctor or

job and be an accountant or a doctor or

job and be an accountant or a doctor or lawyer or whatever and I’m just using an

lawyer or whatever and I’m just using an

lawyer or whatever and I’m just using an example I’m sure your parents you know

example I’m sure your parents you know

example I’m sure your parents you know are amazing people but understand what

are amazing people but understand what

are amazing people but understand what it’s all out of love like even if your

it’s all out of love like even if your

it’s all out of love like even if your parents or friends don’t support the

parents or friends don’t support the

parents or friends don’t support the ideas because they’re scared because

ideas because they’re scared because

ideas because they’re scared because they see the world through their eyes

they see the world through their eyes

they see the world through their eyes and they would never do it and so they

and they would never do it and so they

and they would never do it and so they see it as being too risky for you to go

see it as being too risky for you to go

see it as being too risky for you to go out and do and so if somebody has done

out and do and so if somebody has done

out and do and so if somebody has done what you want to do then you can their

what you want to do then you can their

what you want to do then you can their advice becomes more meaningful if your

advice becomes more meaningful if your

advice becomes more meaningful if your parents or friends have never done what

parents or friends have never done what

parents or friends have never done what you are trying to do then their advice

you are trying to do then their advice

you are trying to do then their advice doesn’t really help you write like my

doesn’t really help you write like my

doesn’t really help you write like my parents taught me how to be a human

parents taught me how to be a human

parents taught me how to be a human being to care about others how to treat

being to care about others how to treat

being to care about others how to treat people how to value people how to be

people how to value people how to be

people how to value people how to be nice to people you know relationships so

nice to people you know relationships so

nice to people you know relationships so I listened to them on that right ah

I listened to them on that right ah

I listened to them on that right ah business advice they don’t they never

business advice they don’t they never

business advice they don’t they never never started a business they’re not

never started a business they’re not

never started a business they’re not entrepreneurs they do other stuff and so

entrepreneurs they do other stuff and so

entrepreneurs they do other stuff and so you know if I had a notch very real

you know if I had a notch very real

you know if I had a notch very real question I wouldn’t go to them i would

question I wouldn’t go to them i would

question I wouldn’t go to them i would go to try to find other people and

go to try to find other people and

go to try to find other people and respect their their feedback so um

respect their their feedback so um

respect their their feedback so um whenever i’m talking to somebody if i

whenever i’m talking to somebody if i

whenever i’m talking to somebody if i were you i’d be looking at how they’ve

were you i’d be looking at how they’ve

were you i’d be looking at how they’ve done what i want to do and can you know

done what i want to do and can you know

done what i want to do and can you know do I trust that wisdom because again a

do I trust that wisdom because again a

do I trust that wisdom because again a lot of people are asking the wrong

lot of people are asking the wrong

lot of people are asking the wrong people because it’s convenient to ask

people because it’s convenient to ask

people because it’s convenient to ask your friends and family but if they

your friends and family but if they

your friends and family but if they haven’t done it how is their opinion

haven’t done it how is their opinion

haven’t done it how is their opinion valuable really you might want to do the

valuable really you might want to do the

valuable really you might want to do the opposite because they haven’t done what

opposite because they haven’t done what

opposite because they haven’t done what you want to do so why are you guys to

you want to do so why are you guys to

you want to do so why are you guys to get there and then the last little bit

get there and then the last little bit

get there and then the last little bit about that on taking advices I’ve almost

about that on taking advices I’ve almost

about that on taking advices I’ve almost never been able to take someone’s advice

never been able to take someone’s advice

never been able to take someone’s advice word for word and apply it I’ve had to

word for word and apply it I’ve had to

word for word and apply it I’ve had to tweak it to make it my own so I remember

tweak it to make it my own so I remember

tweak it to make it my own so I remember going through since you know the YouTube

going through since you know the YouTube

going through since you know the YouTube channel I did a lot of media training

channel I did a lot of media training

channel I did a lot of media training with my agent and every week I had a

with my agent and every week I had a

with my agent and every week I had a media call with a call with one of my

media call with a call with one of my

media call with a call with one of my media coaches to train me on how to get

media coaches to train me on how to get

media coaches to train me on how to get better on doing YouTube interviews all

better on doing YouTube interviews all

better on doing YouTube interviews all that stuff and every week she gave me

that stuff and every week she gave me

that stuff and every week she gave me exercises to work on and the exercise is

exercises to work on and the exercise is

exercises to work on and the exercise is never quite hit it was always like her

never quite hit it was always like her

never quite hit it was always like her ideas are always great but there was

ideas are always great but there was

ideas are always great but there was always just not quite for me and I had

always just not quite for me and I had

always just not quite for me and I had to try it and be awkward at it and not

to try it and be awkward at it and not

to try it and be awkward at it and not enjoy it and then find the tweak to make

enjoy it and then find the tweak to make

enjoy it and then find the tweak to make it my own so like you can’t just copy

it my own so like you can’t just copy

it my own so like you can’t just copy everything Steve Jobs did or Howard

everything Steve Jobs did or Howard

everything Steve Jobs did or Howard shola Terry piccinini or any of those

shola Terry piccinini or any of those

shola Terry piccinini or any of those guys but you could learn from them take

guys but you could learn from them take

guys but you could learn from them take what work for them and say how can I

what work for them and say how can I

what work for them and say how can I apply this to my business and put my own

apply this to my business and put my own

apply this to my business and put my own little sigh you for you know twist on it

little sigh you for you know twist on it

little sigh you for you know twist on it yeah be successful because it’s rarely

yeah be successful because it’s rarely

yeah be successful because it’s rarely just copy and paste you got to add a

just copy and paste you got to add a

just copy and paste you got to add a little bit to it too hmm now I

little bit to it too hmm now I

little bit to it too hmm now I definitely agree with you because it’s

definitely agree with you because it’s

definitely agree with you because it’s it’s hard to do a business where you

it’s hard to do a business where you

it’s hard to do a business where you don’t see the value where it doesn’t

don’t see the value where it doesn’t

don’t see the value where it doesn’t quite a line with your interests or

quite a line with your interests or

quite a line with your interests or passions I mean for example in this

passions I mean for example in this

passions I mean for example in this startup this tired I’m working on right

startup this tired I’m working on right

startup this tired I’m working on right now um the idea and how it came about

now um the idea and how it came about

now um the idea and how it came about was over the course of a couple months

was over the course of a couple months

was over the course of a couple months weeks years just planning on by so when

weeks years just planning on by so when

weeks years just planning on by so when I was going to all these restaurants I’d

I was going to all these restaurants I’d

I was going to all these restaurants I’d see at the end the night that they were

see at the end the night that they were

see at the end the night that they were just throwing away all this food and you

just throwing away all this food and you

just throwing away all this food and you know you’d see the homeless guy on the

know you’d see the homeless guy on the

know you’d see the homeless guy on the other side of things um and then there

other side of things um and then there

other side of things um and then there is that huge disconnect so I started

is that huge disconnect so I started

is that huge disconnect so I started googling obviously just trying to figure

googling obviously just trying to figure

googling obviously just trying to figure things out what existed what didn’t and

things out what existed what didn’t and

things out what existed what didn’t and and I knew this this seemed like a

and I knew this this seemed like a

and I knew this this seemed like a really familiar new space to be in even

really familiar new space to be in even

really familiar new space to be in even though they’re there was some growth and

though they’re there was some growth and

though they’re there was some growth and currently right now after the two or

currently right now after the two or

currently right now after the two or three months that I’ve been working on

three months that I’ve been working on

three months that I’ve been working on this they’re there do seem to be like a

this they’re there do seem to be like a

this they’re there do seem to be like a lot of competition coming in and trying

lot of competition coming in and trying

lot of competition coming in and trying to really expand here so the the

to really expand here so the the

to really expand here so the the business I started wasn’t necessarily

business I started wasn’t necessarily

business I started wasn’t necessarily just because I just saw the opportunity

just because I just saw the opportunity

just because I just saw the opportunity but also that I felt felt like there’s

but also that I felt felt like there’s

but also that I felt felt like there’s something there yeah I think it’s

something there yeah I think it’s

something there yeah I think it’s against maybe typical business advice

against maybe typical business advice

against maybe typical business advice that you read in the text book we’re

that you read in the text book we’re

that you read in the text book we’re looking at the competition I firmly

looking at the competition I firmly

looking at the competition I firmly believe you could you could be

believe you could you could be

believe you could you could be successful and have a business in any

successful and have a business in any

successful and have a business in any industry if you have a deep passion for

industry if you have a deep passion for

industry if you have a deep passion for what you’re doing there will be other

what you’re doing there will be other

what you’re doing there will be other people who share that passion and want

people who share that passion and want

people who share that passion and want to do it or if all you do is look at the

to do it or if all you do is look at the

to do it or if all you do is look at the competition it’s never going to make

competition it’s never going to make

competition it’s never going to make sense because there’s always big

sense because there’s always big

sense because there’s always big competition in every field right we just

competition in every field right we just

competition in every field right we just did a profile of the GoPro founder

did a profile of the GoPro founder

did a profile of the GoPro founder you know and when he started he wanted

you know and when he started he wanted

you know and when he started he wanted to have video cameras at shot action and

to have video cameras at shot action and

to have video cameras at shot action and he could have said well look you know

he could have said well look you know

he could have said well look you know Sony is their cannon is there you know

Sony is their cannon is there you know

Sony is their cannon is there you know nikon is there they’re not quite doing

nikon is there they’re not quite doing

nikon is there they’re not quite doing it yet but I could start and they could

it yet but I could start and they could

it yet but I could start and they could crush me because there’s some huge big

crush me because there’s some huge big

crush me because there’s some huge big company with tons of money and I’m just

company with tons of money and I’m just

company with tons of money and I’m just getting started and it did the safe like

getting started and it did the safe like

getting started and it did the safe like logical textbook thing to do he wouldn’t

logical textbook thing to do he wouldn’t

logical textbook thing to do he wouldn’t have started the business mm-hm almost

have started the business mm-hm almost

have started the business mm-hm almost no industry looks great on paper because

no industry looks great on paper because

no industry looks great on paper because there are big competition and you are

there are big competition and you are

there are big competition and you are your odds of success are tiny anywhere

your odds of success are tiny anywhere

your odds of success are tiny anywhere what brings you through is the

what brings you through is the

what brings you through is the passionate mean to made him a

passionate mean to made him a

passionate mean to made him a billionaire taking on those big

billionaire taking on those big

billionaire taking on those big companies and create a new category so

companies and create a new category so

companies and create a new category so whatever it is like if I love water

whatever it is like if I love water

whatever it is like if I love water bottles there’s an advertiser whole

bottles there’s an advertiser whole

bottles there’s an advertiser whole foods and I love water bottles right

foods and I love water bottles right

foods and I love water bottles right like man water bottles are broken I want

like man water bottles are broken I want

like man water bottles are broken I want to make new water bottles out of hemp or

to make new water bottles out of hemp or

to make new water bottles out of hemp or whatever it is and I just have a serious

whatever it is and I just have a serious

whatever it is and I just have a serious passion for water and hydration and just

passion for water and hydration and just

passion for water and hydration and just all I could talk about was consuming

all I could talk about was consuming

all I could talk about was consuming water I can have success in the water

water I can have success in the water

water I can have success in the water bottle business even though it’s super

bottle business even though it’s super

bottle business even though it’s super competitive in price driven and

competitive in price driven and

competitive in price driven and everybody’s selling it right them so

everybody’s selling it right them so

everybody’s selling it right them so that’s the most important thing to

that’s the most important thing to

that’s the most important thing to figure out is yours for yourself what do

figure out is yours for yourself what do

figure out is yours for yourself what do you love what are you passionate about

you love what are you passionate about

you love what are you passionate about and then how can I before you think

and then how can I before you think

and then how can I before you think about business how can I take that

about business how can I take that

about business how can I take that passion and help other people how can i

passion and help other people how can i

passion and help other people how can i add value to their lives to their

add value to their lives to their

add value to their lives to their businesses and at the end of the day

businesses and at the end of the day

businesses and at the end of the day making a successful business is about

making a successful business is about

making a successful business is about that providing value so if you can go

that providing value so if you can go

that providing value so if you can go out and provide value to them and do it

out and provide value to them and do it

out and provide value to them and do it consistently then you’ll get paid to be

consistently then you’ll get paid to be

consistently then you’ll get paid to be able to do it because at the start you

able to do it because at the start you

able to do it because at the start you won’t be good at it like you may not you

won’t be good at it like you may not you

won’t be good at it like you may not you know with your app you don’t have enough

know with your app you don’t have enough

know with your app you don’t have enough customers coming in so you can’t charge

customers coming in so you can’t charge

customers coming in so you can’t charge for this yet right right yet it’s fine

for this yet right right yet it’s fine

for this yet right right yet it’s fine like I’m not it’s not a criticism like

like I’m not it’s not a criticism like

like I’m not it’s not a criticism like anybody like when you first started out

anybody like when you first started out

anybody like when you first started out you don’t have the skills you may have

you don’t have the skills you may have

you don’t have the skills you may have the passion but you don’t have the

the passion but you don’t have the

the passion but you don’t have the skills yet you need to get better right

skills yet you need to get better right

skills yet you need to get better right it’s fine so whatever you do you’re

it’s fine so whatever you do you’re

it’s fine so whatever you do you’re going to start at Ground Zero and work

going to start at Ground Zero and work

going to start at Ground Zero and work your way up but you can get there a lot

your way up but you can get there a lot

your way up but you can get there a lot faster when you are passionate about it

faster when you are passionate about it

faster when you are passionate about it because you could pass somebody I’d much

because you could pass somebody I’d much

because you could pass somebody I’d much rather bring on the guy who is deeply

rather bring on the guy who is deeply

rather bring on the guy who is deeply passionate to learn but hat knows

passionate to learn but hat knows

passionate to learn but hat knows nothing then the guy who knows every

nothing then the guy who knows every

nothing then the guy who knows every has no excitement like you will learn so

has no excitement like you will learn so

has no excitement like you will learn so quickly think about like when you were

quickly think about like when you were

quickly think about like when you were really excited to learn something how

really excited to learn something how

really excited to learn something how quickly you picked it up versus being

quickly you picked it up versus being

quickly you picked it up versus being forced to read chemistry textbooks and

forced to read chemistry textbooks and

forced to read chemistry textbooks and memorize something like your second all

memorize something like your second all

memorize something like your second all about it all the time is gone right hey

about it all the time is gone right hey

about it all the time is gone right hey um so it’s going to be like what are the

um so it’s going to be like what are the

um so it’s going to be like what are the things to think about consistently and

things to think about consistently and

things to think about consistently and then how can you use that to help other

then how can you use that to help other

then how can you use that to help other people in some way that’s the starting

people in some way that’s the starting

people in some way that’s the starting of a good business okay yeah that’s a

of a good business okay yeah that’s a

of a good business okay yeah that’s a lot of deep thoughts I a I guess I’ll

lot of deep thoughts I a I guess I’ll

lot of deep thoughts I a I guess I’ll have to go back and reflect on a lot of

have to go back and reflect on a lot of

have to go back and reflect on a lot of what you said um in terms of so going

what you said um in terms of so going

what you said um in terms of so going back to your very first very first

back to your very first very first

back to your very first very first company that you were working with could

company that you were working with could

company that you were working with could you put take me through like your very

you put take me through like your very

you put take me through like your very first sale of acquiring that customer

first sale of acquiring that customer

first sale of acquiring that customer how was that process like uh super

how was that process like uh super

how was that process like uh super nervous nerve-wracking uh I was selling

nervous nerve-wracking uh I was selling

nervous nerve-wracking uh I was selling scientific software I was 19 years old I

scientific software I was 19 years old I

scientific software I was 19 years old I didn’t have a science background x was

didn’t have a science background x was

didn’t have a science background x was my worst subject and here I was trying

my worst subject and here I was trying

my worst subject and here I was trying to sell the guys you know to three times

to sell the guys you know to three times

to sell the guys you know to three times my age with PhDs and tons of degrees and

my age with PhDs and tons of degrees and

my age with PhDs and tons of degrees and I actually didn’t sell anything in

I actually didn’t sell anything in

I actually didn’t sell anything in person or by the phone at the start

person or by the phone at the start

person or by the phone at the start because I was too nervous I thought

because I was too nervous I thought

because I was too nervous I thought they’re not gonna take me seriously you

they’re not gonna take me seriously you

they’re not gonna take me seriously you know I was afraid of rejection so I

know I was afraid of rejection so I

know I was afraid of rejection so I thought I’m just going to sell my email

thought I’m just going to sell my email

thought I’m just going to sell my email because they don’t know how old I am

because they don’t know how old I am

because they don’t know how old I am right and I won’t get caught up with a

right and I won’t get caught up with a

right and I won’t get caught up with a question I don’t know how to answer yeah

question I don’t know how to answer yeah

question I don’t know how to answer yeah you know so email is always easier uh

you know so email is always easier uh

you know so email is always easier uh I’m not actually held me back to help me

I’m not actually held me back to help me

I’m not actually held me back to help me back and it was until I realized that

back and it was until I realized that

back and it was until I realized that these guys for the most part don’t care

these guys for the most part don’t care

these guys for the most part don’t care how old I am all they care was that I

how old I am all they care was that I

how old I am all they care was that I can help them you know they were running

can help them you know they were running

can help them you know they were running research labs and our software could

research labs and our software could

research labs and our software could help the research lab do things better

help the research lab do things better

help the research lab do things better and if I could show that to them they

and if I could show that to them they

and if I could show that to them they would they would care they would listen

would they would care they would listen

would they would care they would listen to me I think it’s never been easier for

to me I think it’s never been easier for

to me I think it’s never been easier for young people to get respect and to get

young people to get respect and to get

young people to get respect and to get it sales because the older generations

it sales because the older generations

it sales because the older generations realize that they don’t have the

realize that they don’t have the

realize that they don’t have the knowledge like it used to be experienced

knowledge like it used to be experienced

knowledge like it used to be experienced always trump that you did the same thing

always trump that you did the same thing

always trump that you did the same thing always in an industry now the indices

always in an industry now the indices

always in an industry now the indices are change

are change

are change you so quickly that the young people

you so quickly that the young people

you so quickly that the young people will have more knowledge about a certain

will have more knowledge about a certain

will have more knowledge about a certain way things are done like social media

way things are done like social media

way things are done like social media like website development like you know

like website development like you know

like website development like you know there aren’t that many 65 year old

there aren’t that many 65 year old

there aren’t that many 65 year old website development experts right right

website development experts right right

website development experts right right like if anything is negative right like

like if anything is negative right like

like if anything is negative right like you’re 65 years old and your website

you’re 65 years old and your website

you’re 65 years old and your website expert right they’d look to the young

expert right they’d look to the young

expert right they’d look to the young people so that’s where you have an

people so that’s where you have an

people so that’s where you have an advantage now it’s never been easier to

advantage now it’s never been easier to

advantage now it’s never been easier to get business as a young person if you’re

get business as a young person if you’re

get business as a young person if you’re in those certain fields where they

in those certain fields where they

in those certain fields where they expect some credibility it was a little

expect some credibility it was a little

expect some credibility it was a little harder for me I’m what I’m 36 36 what

harder for me I’m what I’m 36 36 what

harder for me I’m what I’m 36 36 what year is it ya I’m 36 now I was 19 when I

year is it ya I’m 36 now I was 19 when I

year is it ya I’m 36 now I was 19 when I was telling that stuff yeah so it was a

was telling that stuff yeah so it was a

was telling that stuff yeah so it was a little bit harder but still all they

little bit harder but still all they

little bit harder but still all they cared about was that I could help them

cared about was that I could help them

cared about was that I could help them if I could add value to their lab then

if I could add value to their lab then

if I could add value to their lab then they would want to talk to me and

they would want to talk to me and

they would want to talk to me and potentially buy my software but I had to

potentially buy my software but I had to

potentially buy my software but I had to get out of my own head and once i

get out of my own head and once i

get out of my own head and once i realized that i could add guy like

realized that i could add guy like

realized that i could add guy like believe that i could help them that I’m

believe that i could help them that I’m

believe that i could help them that I’m not just trying to land a sale and take

not just trying to land a sale and take

not just trying to land a sale and take their money but I believe that if they

their money but I believe that if they

their money but I believe that if they bought what I had it would improve their

bought what I had it would improve their

bought what I had it would improve their their lab that was the biggest ship much

their lab that was the biggest ship much

their lab that was the biggest ship much more than what I said on the phone how I

more than what I said on the phone how I

more than what I said on the phone how I introduced myself or any of that stuff

introduced myself or any of that stuff

introduced myself or any of that stuff like made minor tweaks along the way but

like made minor tweaks along the way but

like made minor tweaks along the way but the baby was me just feeling like I

the baby was me just feeling like I

the baby was me just feeling like I will help you and that gives you

will help you and that gives you

will help you and that gives you confidence and that lets you talk to

confidence and that lets you talk to

confidence and that lets you talk to people who have more experience in you

people who have more experience in you

people who have more experience in you and even when i first started work with

and even when i first started work with

and even when i first started work with brands you know my first to brand

brands you know my first to brand

brands you know my first to brand clients were xerox was xerox tell us

clients were xerox was xerox tell us

clients were xerox was xerox tell us here in canada and in microsoft and i

here in canada and in microsoft and i

here in canada and in microsoft and i thought these guys are huge companies

thought these guys are huge companies

thought these guys are huge companies like what do they might ought to me for

like what do they might ought to me for

like what do they might ought to me for right how am I gonna help Microsoft with

right how am I gonna help Microsoft with

right how am I gonna help Microsoft with you know what is their budget for

you know what is their budget for

you know what is their budget for marketing and I’m going to come in and

marketing and I’m going to come in and

marketing and I’m going to come in and help Microsoft and so I put it off like

help Microsoft and so I put it off like

help Microsoft and so I put it off like I didn’t want to have that first call

I didn’t want to have that first call

I didn’t want to have that first call because I felt like I couldn’t

because I felt like I couldn’t

because I felt like I couldn’t contribute and was better to delay it

contribute and was better to delay it

contribute and was better to delay it than to be rejected and then when I

than to be rejected and then when I

than to be rejected and then when I finally got on the call with them I

finally got on the call with them I

finally got on the call with them I realized oh man I could totally help

realized oh man I could totally help

realized oh man I could totally help Microsoft like these guys don’t know

Microsoft like these guys don’t know

Microsoft like these guys don’t know what they’re doing or whoever it was

what they’re doing or whoever it was

what they’re doing or whoever it was like they desperately need

like they desperately need

like they desperately need they weren’t tapped into the

they weren’t tapped into the

they weren’t tapped into the entrepreneur community like I was and so

entrepreneur community like I was and so

entrepreneur community like I was and so I realized that I had a lot of value to

I realized that I had a lot of value to

I realized that I had a lot of value to give them and so now when i talk to

give them and so now when i talk to

give them and so now when i talk to brands like go away knowing that i’m

brands like go away knowing that i’m

brands like go away knowing that i’m confident i can help any brand that

confident i can help any brand that

confident i can help any brand that wants to target entrepreneurs if you

wants to target entrepreneurs if you

wants to target entrepreneurs if you want to sell makeup or something else I

want to sell makeup or something else I

want to sell makeup or something else I can’t help you you know but you want to

can’t help you you know but you want to

can’t help you you know but you want to sell to entrepreneurs you want to stand

sell to entrepreneurs you want to stand

sell to entrepreneurs you want to stand them I feel like I’m one of the best

them I feel like I’m one of the best

them I feel like I’m one of the best people in the world to work with and so

people in the world to work with and so

people in the world to work with and so I walk in with maybe maybe a little bit

I walk in with maybe maybe a little bit

I walk in with maybe maybe a little bit of ego but more the confidence knowing

of ego but more the confidence knowing

of ego but more the confidence knowing that I can help these guys and so you

that I can help these guys and so you

that I can help these guys and so you need to have the build up the confidence

need to have the build up the confidence

need to have the build up the confidence to know that hey I can help like that’s

to know that hey I can help like that’s

to know that hey I can help like that’s where the sales start to come in right

where the sales start to come in right

where the sales start to come in right now you’re not even in selling mode

now you’re not even in selling mode

now you’re not even in selling mode you’re just in research mode you’re just

you’re just in research mode you’re just

you’re just in research mode you’re just asking to set up meetings to understand

asking to set up meetings to understand

asking to set up meetings to understand how people businesses work and people

how people businesses work and people

how people businesses work and people give you the time right like why are we

give you the time right like why are we

give you the time right like why are we talking now right you reach that ready

talking now right you reach that ready

talking now right you reach that ready and said hey I like some help for my

and said hey I like some help for my

and said hey I like some help for my business and I said sure let’s do a

business and I said sure let’s do a

business and I said sure let’s do a hangout and talk about it you know I’m

hangout and talk about it you know I’m

hangout and talk about it you know I’m not getting paid for this now as far as

not getting paid for this now as far as

not getting paid for this now as far as I know uh but so like that’s it’s

I know uh but so like that’s it’s

I know uh but so like that’s it’s different because if you go up and say

different because if you go up and say

different because if you go up and say hey I want to talk about my new product

hey I want to talk about my new product

hey I want to talk about my new product or whatever they put them in defensive

or whatever they put them in defensive

or whatever they put them in defensive mode because they’re now expected to be

mode because they’re now expected to be

mode because they’re now expected to be sold to where you’re not you’re not

sold to where you’re not you’re not

sold to where you’re not you’re not selling you don’t me miss Elliot you’re

selling you don’t me miss Elliot you’re

selling you don’t me miss Elliot you’re still trying to figure it out so the

still trying to figure it out so the

still trying to figure it out so the only young entrepreneur who is

only young entrepreneur who is

only young entrepreneur who is passionate about food waste and I’d love

passionate about food waste and I’d love

passionate about food waste and I’d love to talk to you about your like the same

to talk to you about your like the same

to talk to you about your like the same the same energy and enthusiasm that you

the same energy and enthusiasm that you

the same energy and enthusiasm that you came up to me and talk to me it’s tied

came up to me and talk to me it’s tied

came up to me and talk to me it’s tied up Toronto for you know three minutes

up Toronto for you know three minutes

up Toronto for you know three minutes after an event you could do that with

after an event you could do that with

after an event you could do that with people who you wanted to get to know in

people who you wanted to get to know in

people who you wanted to get to know in your industry and and they would spend

your industry and and they would spend

your industry and and they would spend half an hour with you over coffee

half an hour with you over coffee

half an hour with you over coffee talking about the business and you can

talking about the business and you can

talking about the business and you can see where you might find it may not be

see where you might find it may not be

see where you might find it may not be the excess food or may not be the same

the excess food or may not be the same

the excess food or may not be the same model that you’re thinking you may pivot

model that you’re thinking you may pivot

model that you’re thinking you may pivot three or four times but the best way to

three or four times but the best way to

three or four times but the best way to do it is around a customer and if they

do it is around a customer and if they

do it is around a customer and if they like your energy and enthusiasm they

like your energy and enthusiasm they

like your energy and enthusiasm they could say hey you know what if you could

could say hey you know what if you could

could say hey you know what if you could solve this problem for me I’ll pay you

solve this problem for me I’ll pay you

solve this problem for me I’ll pay you for it right right like you’re selling

for it right right like you’re selling

for it right right like you’re selling without selling but I said going in with

without selling but I said going in with

without selling but I said going in with the expectation of it not being a sales

the expectation of it not being a sales

the expectation of it not being a sales call it’s fact-finding that’s that’s

call it’s fact-finding that’s that’s

call it’s fact-finding that’s that’s definitely sort of what I’ve been trying

definitely sort of what I’ve been trying

definitely sort of what I’ve been trying to do a lot of sort of like food waste

to do a lot of sort of like food waste

to do a lot of sort of like food waste campaigns a lot of sort of regional

campaigns a lot of sort of regional

campaigns a lot of sort of regional managers at some of the grocery stores

managers at some of the grocery stores

managers at some of the grocery stores and stuff I’m trying to reach out to

and stuff I’m trying to reach out to

and stuff I’m trying to reach out to them and saying

them and saying

them and saying hey this this this and I’ve been working

hey this this this and I’ve been working

hey this this this and I’ve been working on something on a small scale I just

on something on a small scale I just

on something on a small scale I just love to get your opinion and I things of

love to get your opinion and I things of

love to get your opinion and I things of that nature and thankful I’m actually

that nature and thankful I’m actually

that nature and thankful I’m actually one of them got back to me and with nice

one of them got back to me and with nice

one of them got back to me and with nice little meeting next week and they just

little meeting next week and they just

little meeting next week and they just loved our little story they were like

loved our little story they were like

loved our little story they were like yeah we’d love to feature you guys and

yeah we’d love to feature you guys and

yeah we’d love to feature you guys and be a part of the team so I definitely

be a part of the team so I definitely

be a part of the team so I definitely that’s that’s really been a huge point

that’s that’s really been a huge point

that’s that’s really been a huge point because instead of just selling my

because instead of just selling my

because instead of just selling my product or idea uh selling them on

product or idea uh selling them on

product or idea uh selling them on myself and what I thought about it

myself and what I thought about it

myself and what I thought about it someone in the comments is saying óleo

someone in the comments is saying óleo

someone in the comments is saying óleo is a food app that shares food waste so

is a food app that shares food waste so

is a food app that shares food waste so maybe worth checking them out oh hi yeah

maybe worth checking them out oh hi yeah

maybe worth checking them out oh hi yeah yeah they’re known of the u.s. yeah I i

yeah they’re known of the u.s. yeah I i

yeah they’re known of the u.s. yeah I i checked i believe i checked them check

checked i believe i checked them check

checked i believe i checked them check one of them out cool i do a render the

one of them out cool i do a render the

one of them out cool i do a render the galaxy for that I think you’ve got a lot

galaxy for that I think you’ve got a lot

galaxy for that I think you’ve got a lot of stuff going for you that you’re young

of stuff going for you that you’re young

of stuff going for you that you’re young and that you’re a student it’s easy to

and that you’re a student it’s easy to

and that you’re a student it’s easy to say yes to a student it’s a lot harder

say yes to a student it’s a lot harder

say yes to a student it’s a lot harder to say yes to hey I’m a 55 year old

to say yes to hey I’m a 55 year old

to say yes to hey I’m a 55 year old person who’s like trying to figure out

person who’s like trying to figure out

person who’s like trying to figure out you know my next business idea right

you know my next business idea right

you know my next business idea right yeah so it helps that you’re younger

yeah so it helps that you’re younger

yeah so it helps that you’re younger there but what I would add to it just

there but what I would add to it just

there but what I would add to it just because you have a lot going for you

because you have a lot going for you

because you have a lot going for you doesn’t mean it can’t be better what I

doesn’t mean it can’t be better what I

doesn’t mean it can’t be better what I would add to it is when you’re

would add to it is when you’re

would add to it is when you’re introducing yourself tell me what you’re

introducing yourself tell me what you’re

introducing yourself tell me what you’re passionate about so high i’m sorry if

passionate about so high i’m sorry if

passionate about so high i’m sorry if i’m a student at wherever your student

i’m a student at wherever your student

i’m a student at wherever your student ID Lori Lori day I’m studying this I

ID Lori Lori day I’m studying this I

ID Lori Lori day I’m studying this I have a passion for food waste or

have a passion for food waste or

have a passion for food waste or whatever right um because if I can align

whatever right um because if I can align

whatever right um because if I can align with the passion that you have then I’m

with the passion that you have then I’m

with the passion that you have then I’m much more likely to say yes thank you

much more likely to say yes thank you

much more likely to say yes thank you say I have a passion for for

say I have a passion for for

say I have a passion for for entrepreneurship immediately like it

entrepreneurship immediately like it

entrepreneurship immediately like it hits a soft spot for me right mm-hmm I

hits a soft spot for me right mm-hmm I

hits a soft spot for me right mm-hmm I love entrepreneurs you want to be an

love entrepreneurs you want to be an

love entrepreneurs you want to be an entrepreneur you know it makes me want

entrepreneur you know it makes me want

entrepreneur you know it makes me want to help immediately I am that you’re

to help immediately I am that you’re

to help immediately I am that you’re young and your student and you know

young and your student and you know

young and your student and you know you’re you have energy and you want to

you’re you have energy and you want to

you’re you have energy and you want to you know you open the ticking feedback

you know you open the ticking feedback

you know you open the ticking feedback but that may help swing the curve a

but that may help swing the curve a

but that may help swing the curve a little bit for people who are on the

little bit for people who are on the

little bit for people who are on the fence as to whether they should meet you

fence as to whether they should meet you

fence as to whether they should meet you or not just seeing what you’re

or not just seeing what you’re

or not just seeing what you’re passionate about and if they see that

passionate about and if they see that

passionate about and if they see that and they say always passionate about

and they say always passionate about

and they say always passionate about food waste like who cares that’s why not

food waste like who cares that’s why not

food waste like who cares that’s why not a great meeting for you anyway yeah

a great meeting for you anyway yeah

a great meeting for you anyway yeah right so now people may be meeting you

right so now people may be meeting you

right so now people may be meeting you because

because

because you’re you’re young in a student but if

you’re you’re young in a student but if

you’re you’re young in a student but if you throw that extra bit in about what

you throw that extra bit in about what

you throw that extra bit in about what you’re passionate about maybe do more

you’re passionate about maybe do more

you’re passionate about maybe do more work about finding it and whatever it’s

work about finding it and whatever it’s

work about finding it and whatever it’s awesome or if you have a couple things

awesome or if you have a couple things

awesome or if you have a couple things and you’re still trying to figure out

and you’re still trying to figure out

and you’re still trying to figure out like just sharing some of those things

like just sharing some of those things

like just sharing some of those things if it pings on them something that they

if it pings on them something that they

if it pings on them something that they can relate to they’re much more likely

can relate to they’re much more likely

can relate to they’re much more likely to say yes and if it pings on them in a

to say yes and if it pings on them in a

to say yes and if it pings on them in a way that is negative then it’s great

way that is negative then it’s great

way that is negative then it’s great because it wouldn’t have been a great

because it wouldn’t have been a great

because it wouldn’t have been a great meeting for you anyway okay um I guess

meeting for you anyway okay um I guess

meeting for you anyway okay um I guess my last last question I had was since

my last last question I had was since

my last last question I had was since I’m working on a two-sided platform so

I’m working on a two-sided platform so

I’m working on a two-sided platform so it’s a chicken and egg type of situation

it’s a chicken and egg type of situation

it’s a chicken and egg type of situation so can’t have consumers without the

so can’t have consumers without the

so can’t have consumers without the without the food providers like

without the food providers like

without the food providers like restaurants bakeries you can’t have one

restaurants bakeries you can’t have one

restaurants bakeries you can’t have one or the other I mean I’m trying to focus

or the other I mean I’m trying to focus

or the other I mean I’m trying to focus my efforts into gaining those bakeries

my efforts into gaining those bakeries

my efforts into gaining those bakeries restaurants sushi places etc could you

restaurants sushi places etc could you

restaurants sushi places etc could you speak a little bit about that like how

speak a little bit about that like how

speak a little bit about that like how because I feel like you need to grow

because I feel like you need to grow

because I feel like you need to grow both at the same time yeah you do yeah

both at the same time yeah you do yeah

both at the same time yeah you do yeah so the easiest way to do it is you build

so the easiest way to do it is you build

so the easiest way to do it is you build both up slowly so like if it were me I

both up slowly so like if it were me I

both up slowly so like if it were me I would target a geographic area and in an

would target a geographic area and in an

would target a geographic area and in an industry so if like sushi restaurants

industry so if like sushi restaurants

industry so if like sushi restaurants downtown the comedy sushi restaurants

downtown the comedy sushi restaurants

downtown the comedy sushi restaurants are there in downtown Toronto 40 like

are there in downtown Toronto 40 like

are there in downtown Toronto 40 like 50-100 I like a hundred okay so like

50-100 I like a hundred okay so like

50-100 I like a hundred okay so like that’s where I would focus go after the

that’s where I would focus go after the

that’s where I would focus go after the hundred sushi restaurants in downtown

hundred sushi restaurants in downtown

hundred sushi restaurants in downtown once you get one on board nobody wants

once you get one on board nobody wants

once you get one on board nobody wants to be left out right like this guy’s on

to be left out right like this guy’s on

to be left out right like this guy’s on board matzo sushi whatever they’re on

board matzo sushi whatever they’re on

board matzo sushi whatever they’re on board and this guy’s on boy like oh I

board and this guy’s on boy like oh I

board and this guy’s on boy like oh I need to get on board too right I don’t

need to get on board too right I don’t

need to get on board too right I don’t want to be the only sushi place not on

want to be the only sushi place not on

want to be the only sushi place not on your list even if this does nothing it

your list even if this does nothing it

your list even if this does nothing it adds that feel to it and then I’d be

adds that feel to it and then I’d be

adds that feel to it and then I’d be trying to target okay who are young

trying to target okay who are young

trying to target okay who are young people downtown who care about sushi

people downtown who care about sushi

people downtown who care about sushi like who’s my demographic probably like

like who’s my demographic probably like

like who’s my demographic probably like students student again like a

students student again like a

students student again like a budget-conscious so how can I get

budget-conscious so how can I get

budget-conscious so how can I get students who care about sushi so makes

students who care about sushi so makes

students who care about sushi so makes it a lot easier and because of the

it a lot easier and because of the

it a lot easier and because of the defining each of their high value client

defining each of their high value client

defining each of their high value client so I’d be looking at okay well if you’re

so I’d be looking at okay well if you’re

so I’d be looking at okay well if you’re doing trials like University of

doing trials like University of

doing trials like University of Toronto’s downtown where I’ve seen

Toronto’s downtown where I’ve seen

Toronto’s downtown where I’ve seen downtown how can i connect with those

downtown how can i connect with those

downtown how can i connect with those guys there’s meetup groups right and

guys there’s meetup groups right and

guys there’s meetup groups right and let them know about these sushi deals

let them know about these sushi deals

let them know about these sushi deals that they can get I go for the

that they can get I go for the

that they can get I go for the restaurants first if I got 10

restaurants first if I got 10

restaurants first if I got 10 restaurants I start putting it up and

restaurants I start putting it up and

restaurants I start putting it up and they’ve got that ability both yeah well

they’ve got that ability both yeah well

they’ve got that ability both yeah well as soon as we have around some

as soon as we have around some

as soon as we have around some consistent deals on a couple of

consistent deals on a couple of

consistent deals on a couple of restaurants on board everything’s gonna

restaurants on board everything’s gonna

restaurants on board everything’s gonna go alive and what I’m planning on doing

go alive and what I’m planning on doing

go alive and what I’m planning on doing is using some leverage leveraging some

is using some leverage leveraging some

is using some leverage leveraging some of the free mediums like vice Huffington

of the free mediums like vice Huffington

of the free mediums like vice Huffington Post’s things of that nature where I can

Post’s things of that nature where I can

Post’s things of that nature where I can just submit free articles and get a

just submit free articles and get a

just submit free articles and get a little bit exposure in that sense but

little bit exposure in that sense but

little bit exposure in that sense but also reaching out to the student base at

also reaching out to the student base at

also reaching out to the student base at Ryerson UFT so I’ve been trying to talk

Ryerson UFT so I’ve been trying to talk

Ryerson UFT so I’ve been trying to talk to some of the school newspapers exactly

to some of the school newspapers exactly

to some of the school newspapers exactly if you’ll get much more leverage from

if you’ll get much more leverage from

if you’ll get much more leverage from local stuff than from a HuffPo article

local stuff than from a HuffPo article

local stuff than from a HuffPo article mmm that helps with your SEO and that

mmm that helps with your SEO and that

mmm that helps with your SEO and that kind of stuff your general awareness but

kind of stuff your general awareness but

kind of stuff your general awareness but that’s talking much more like national

that’s talking much more like national

that’s talking much more like national international campaign where you can

international campaign where you can

international campaign where you can just get a lot from your student from

just get a lot from your student from

just get a lot from your student from the student base like I tried to get in

the student base like I tried to get in

the student base like I tried to get in with u of t and Ryerson George Brown

with u of t and Ryerson George Brown

with u of t and Ryerson George Brown maybe um and get them to know about it

maybe um and get them to know about it

maybe um and get them to know about it and spread it and share it meetup groups

and spread it and share it meetup groups

and spread it and share it meetup groups anything like hyperlocal that’s where

anything like hyperlocal that’s where

anything like hyperlocal that’s where you want to be so it’s a smaller number

you want to be so it’s a smaller number

you want to be so it’s a smaller number of people but those are your like people

of people but those are your like people

of people but those are your like people aren’t going to drive in from London

aren’t going to drive in from London

aren’t going to drive in from London Ontario right to get a sushi deal you

Ontario right to get a sushi deal you

Ontario right to get a sushi deal you know within an hour right like it’s not

know within an hour right like it’s not

know within an hour right like it’s not not going to happen yeah so I’ll be

not going to happen yeah so I’ll be

not going to happen yeah so I’ll be trying to make those local partnerships

trying to make those local partnerships

trying to make those local partnerships um yeah uh I guess I’ll squeeze in one

um yeah uh I guess I’ll squeeze in one

um yeah uh I guess I’ll squeeze in one last question um if if you’re working at

last question um if if you’re working at

last question um if if you’re working at so just this is more like

so just this is more like

so just this is more like entrepreneurial general type of question

entrepreneurial general type of question

entrepreneurial general type of question if you’re working on a business and you

if you’re working on a business and you

if you’re working on a business and you see that opportunity and you’re working

see that opportunity and you’re working

see that opportunity and you’re working on it can you still develop a passion

on it can you still develop a passion

on it can you still develop a passion for it later on as you work through it

for it later on as you work through it

for it later on as you work through it or just always have to be that I’m

or just always have to be that I’m

or just always have to be that I’m 100-percent passionate about this and

100-percent passionate about this and

100-percent passionate about this and that’s why I did this I don’t know that

that’s why I did this I don’t know that

that’s why I did this I don’t know that you’re always a hundred percent I think

you’re always a hundred percent I think

you’re always a hundred percent I think I think your passion evolves I I would

I think your passion evolves I I would

I think your passion evolves I I would be skeptical getting into a business and

be skeptical getting into a business and

be skeptical getting into a business and then hoping that I will fall in love

then hoping that I will fall in love

then hoping that I will fall in love with it I’d much rather start the other

with it I’d much rather start the other

with it I’d much rather start the other way much rather start with something

way much rather start with something

way much rather start with something that I love and try to figure out a way

that I love and try to figure out a way

that I love and try to figure out a way to make it

to make it

to make it something like if I were you before even

something like if I were you before even

something like if I were you before even going out and start talking to those

going out and start talking to those

going out and start talking to those restaurants I would do the self exercise

restaurants I would do the self exercise

restaurants I would do the self exercise if you’re going to what is it that I

if you’re going to what is it that I

if you’re going to what is it that I want to do what do I get excited

want to do what do I get excited

want to do what do I get excited passionate but because if this isn’t it

passionate but because if this isn’t it

passionate but because if this isn’t it this is you some opportunity then it’s

this is you some opportunity then it’s

this is you some opportunity then it’s better to figure that out now than two

better to figure that out now than two

better to figure that out now than two years in and you’re like not making

years in and you’re like not making

years in and you’re like not making money and still like anything’s going to

money and still like anything’s going to

money and still like anything’s going to be a grind it’s going to be a hustle

be a grind it’s going to be a hustle

be a grind it’s going to be a hustle your face off thing and you’re going to

your face off thing and you’re going to

your face off thing and you’re going to doubt yourself and you’re going to

doubt yourself and you’re going to

doubt yourself and you’re going to critique yourself because take a while

critique yourself because take a while

critique yourself because take a while to get going you’re going to go through

to get going you’re going to go through

to get going you’re going to go through hell to get there and the only thing

hell to get there and the only thing

hell to get there and the only thing that gets you through is the passion

that gets you through is the passion

that gets you through is the passion like this must happen I’m going to will

like this must happen I’m going to will

like this must happen I’m going to will it into existence because it’s important

it into existence because it’s important

it into existence because it’s important so you have to feel that way about

so you have to feel that way about

so you have to feel that way about something and can you develop it maybe

something and can you develop it maybe

something and can you develop it maybe but it’s like what I want to marry a

but it’s like what I want to marry a

but it’s like what I want to marry a girl and then hope I fall in love with

girl and then hope I fall in love with

girl and then hope I fall in love with her can it happen sure it can happen are

her can it happen sure it can happen are

her can it happen sure it can happen are the odds good I don’t know probably not

the odds good I don’t know probably not

the odds good I don’t know probably not fantastic so I would approach it the

fantastic so I would approach it the

fantastic so I would approach it the same way like how if I’m going to start

same way like how if I’m going to start

same way like how if I’m going to start a business I would want to try to find

a business I would want to try to find

a business I would want to try to find something that I’m passionate about and

something that I’m passionate about and

something that I’m passionate about and go that way instead of try to find an

go that way instead of try to find an

go that way instead of try to find an opportunity and then figure out how I’m

opportunity and then figure out how I’m

opportunity and then figure out how I’m passionate about it okay perfect yeah I

passionate about it okay perfect yeah I

passionate about it okay perfect yeah I think that might be some harsh truth but

think that might be some harsh truth but

think that might be some harsh truth but ok I understand it’s i mean that’s

ok I understand it’s i mean that’s

ok I understand it’s i mean that’s that’s what I’m talking to you to

that’s what I’m talking to you to

that’s what I’m talking to you to understand like what’s going on what I

understand like what’s going on what I

understand like what’s going on what I need to do cool cool well good luck

need to do cool cool well good luck

need to do cool cool well good luck everybody is going to cheering you on in

everybody is going to cheering you on in

everybody is going to cheering you on in the chat too so keep me posted ya think

the chat too so keep me posted ya think

the chat too so keep me posted ya think thanks for taking the time um I was

thanks for taking the time um I was

thanks for taking the time um I was actually going to send Sandra top ten

actually going to send Sandra top ten

actually going to send Sandra top ten tips from what I learned from here so

tips from what I learned from here so

tips from what I learned from here so i’ll send you nice little message you

i’ll send you nice little message you

i’ll send you nice little message you later on alright cool looking forward to

later on alright cool looking forward to

later on alright cool looking forward to it alright awesome thank you thanks I

it alright awesome thank you thanks I

it alright awesome thank you thanks I thank you guys thank you guys for

thank you guys thank you guys for

thank you guys thank you guys for watching continue to believe and we’ll

watching continue to believe and we’ll

watching continue to believe and we’ll see you soon

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