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PERSERVERENCE Pays Off! ft. @themoguldadcom


hello everyone welcome to another

hello everyone welcome to another YouTube hang out super excited to be

YouTube hang out super excited to be

YouTube hang out super excited to be here with jay from perseverance pays off

here with jay from perseverance pays off

here with jay from perseverance pays off with the Mogul dad a new podcast that he

with the Mogul dad a new podcast that he

with the Mogul dad a new podcast that he started off when he asked interviewing

started off when he asked interviewing

started off when he asked interviewing for his podcast I said let’s give it a

for his podcast I said let’s give it a

for his podcast I said let’s give it a try happy to contribute why don’t we

try happy to contribute why don’t we

try happy to contribute why don’t we turn into a YouTube hang out so that my

turn into a YouTube hang out so that my

turn into a YouTube hang out so that my audience could learn from him too so Jay

audience could learn from him too so Jay

audience could learn from him too so Jay welcome aboard if you want to just give

welcome aboard if you want to just give

welcome aboard if you want to just give the audience a quick overview of what

the audience a quick overview of what

the audience a quick overview of what the podcast is all about and then dive

the podcast is all about and then dive

the podcast is all about and then dive into how you normally run things in your

into how you normally run things in your

into how you normally run things in your questions let’s start of the podcast

questions let’s start of the podcast

questions let’s start of the podcast back in June it was on something about

back in June it was on something about

back in June it was on something about fish I suffer badly with anxiety so I’m

fish I suffer badly with anxiety so I’m

fish I suffer badly with anxiety so I’m using it more almost like a therapy but

using it more almost like a therapy but

using it more almost like a therapy but also trying out people everything’s

also trying out people everything’s

also trying out people everything’s likes of Straight program unfortunately

likes of Straight program unfortunately

likes of Straight program unfortunately there’s a lot of bumps and at first I

there’s a lot of bumps and at first I

there’s a lot of bumps and at first I you can store it with you in business

you can store it with you in business

you can store it with you in business and what you’re trying to do I thought

and what you’re trying to do I thought

and what you’re trying to do I thought we had tried to reach oqc come on the

we had tried to reach oqc come on the

we had tried to reach oqc come on the podcast cool well hit me up let’s get

podcast cool well hit me up let’s get

podcast cool well hit me up let’s get into it whatever questions you have

into it whatever questions you have

into it whatever questions you have intro I’m muscle is good we say this is

intro I’m muscle is good we say this is

intro I’m muscle is good we say this is this is this effort by our 10th episode

this is this effort by our 10th episode

this is this effort by our 10th episode can you tell us a little bit about

can you tell us a little bit about

can you tell us a little bit about yourself and what you do sure my name is

yourself and what you do sure my name is

yourself and what you do sure my name is Evan Carmichael I believe in

Evan Carmichael I believe in

Evan Carmichael I believe in entrepreneurs how I have my business I

entrepreneurs how I have my business I

entrepreneurs how I have my business I guess is through my youtube channel for

guess is through my youtube channel for

guess is through my youtube channel for my website through my books and the

my website through my books and the

my website through my books and the speaking gigs that I do I want people

speaking gigs that I do I want people

speaking gigs that I do I want people who want to be entrepreneurs to believe

who want to be entrepreneurs to believe

who want to be entrepreneurs to believe themselves to chase their dreams and to

themselves to chase their dreams and to

themselves to chase their dreams and to not hold themselves back go out and

not hold themselves back go out and

not hold themselves back go out and create companies that change the world

create companies that change the world

create companies that change the world now one corner see you say all the time

now one corner see you say all the time

now one corner see you say all the time leave and um what’s the goal of a

leave and um what’s the goal of a

leave and um what’s the goal of a million sort so my big goal is to help a

million sort so my big goal is to help a

million sort so my big goal is to help a billion entrepreneurs and much more

billion entrepreneurs and much more

billion entrepreneurs and much more important than actually reaching that

important than actually reaching that

important than actually reaching that goal because people say well how do you

goal because people say well how do you

goal because people say well how do you measure that is that by youtube fuses up

measure that is that by youtube fuses up

measure that is that by youtube fuses up by newsletter subscribers how are you

by newsletter subscribers how are you

by newsletter subscribers how are you going to measure that and I’m actually

going to measure that and I’m actually

going to measure that and I’m actually not so concerned with measuring it it’s

not so concerned with measuring it it’s

not so concerned with measuring it it’s much more about the process I think too

much more about the process I think too

much more about the process I think too many people set a goal I want to be here

many people set a goal I want to be here

many people set a goal I want to be here i want to have this car i want to make

i want to have this car i want to make

i want to have this car i want to make this amount of money i want to whatever

this amount of money i want to whatever

this amount of money i want to whatever it is that you set a goal and I will do

it is that you set a goal and I will do

it is that you set a goal and I will do all this crap to get there that’s how

all this crap to get there that’s how

all this crap to get there that’s how most people set goals where for me you

most people set goals where for me you

most people set goals where for me you got to enjoy the work that you’re doing

got to enjoy the work that you’re doing

got to enjoy the work that you’re doing like the work is the goal doing

like the work is the goal doing

like the work is the goal doing meaningful work should be what matters

meaningful work should be what matters

meaningful work should be what matters and yes that will help you get two

and yes that will help you get two

and yes that will help you get two different spots but if you are spending

different spots but if you are spending

different spots but if you are spending your life doing stuff that you hate just

your life doing stuff that you hate just

your life doing stuff that you hate just to get some other goal that’s not the

to get some other goal that’s not the

to get some other goal that’s not the way to have massive success so if you

way to have massive success so if you

way to have massive success so if you look at the people who are truly

look at the people who are truly

look at the people who are truly successful they love the work they’re

successful they love the work they’re

successful they love the work they’re doing so I’m not so attached to the

doing so I’m not so attached to the

doing so I’m not so attached to the 1,000,000,000 goal the point of that was

1,000,000,000 goal the point of that was

1,000,000,000 goal the point of that was to help me do things that play a bigger

to help me do things that play a bigger

to help me do things that play a bigger game so if I want to reach that many

game so if I want to reach that many

game so if I want to reach that many people it’s not going to be by doing

people it’s not going to be by doing

people it’s not going to be by doing one-on-one consulting right it’s going

one-on-one consulting right it’s going

one-on-one consulting right it’s going to be by having a YouTube channel by

to be by having a YouTube channel by

to be by having a YouTube channel by doing the book deal by doing a lot of

doing the book deal by doing a lot of

doing the book deal by doing a lot of speaking by getting out there and making

speaking by getting out there and making

speaking by getting out there and making a bigger name and so that’s what kind of

a bigger name and so that’s what kind of

a bigger name and so that’s what kind of drives me is much more the impact I want

drives me is much more the impact I want

drives me is much more the impact I want to do things that have a great impact on

to do things that have a great impact on

to do things that have a great impact on the entrepreneur community and look like

the entrepreneur community and look like

the entrepreneur community and look like myself like a big Zynga and I not preach

myself like a big Zynga and I not preach

myself like a big Zynga and I not preach for this is pure so finish pays off with

for this is pure so finish pays off with

for this is pure so finish pays off with you it’s believed he does a little bit

you it’s believed he does a little bit

you it’s believed he does a little bit of belief yeah belief for me comes from

of belief yeah belief for me comes from

of belief yeah belief for me comes from one believing in yourself I think that’s

one believing in yourself I think that’s

one believing in yourself I think that’s how most people see believe is

how most people see believe is

how most people see believe is self-confidence right that comes from my

self-confidence right that comes from my

self-confidence right that comes from my parents when you know they would always

parents when you know they would always

parents when you know they would always tell me that I was a cast rlly

tell me that I was a cast rlly

tell me that I was a cast rlly Carmichael my mom’s last name is Miss

Carmichael my mom’s last name is Miss

Carmichael my mom’s last name is Miss Julie and I could do anything I wanted

Julie and I could do anything I wanted

Julie and I could do anything I wanted to so they kind of instilled that sense

to so they kind of instilled that sense

to so they kind of instilled that sense of belief in myself and I try to pass

of belief in myself and I try to pass

of belief in myself and I try to pass that on to to my son as well is now

that on to to my son as well is now

that on to to my son as well is now seven but it’s more than just self

seven but it’s more than just self

seven but it’s more than just self confidence for me it’s also believe in

confidence for me it’s also believe in

confidence for me it’s also believe in what you’re doing so have passion for

what you’re doing so have passion for

what you’re doing so have passion for the work that you do right like you’re

the work that you do right like you’re

the work that you do right like you’re starting this podcast you know you have

starting this podcast you know you have

starting this podcast you know you have an intent to help people you love

an intent to help people you love

an intent to help people you love ideally the people that you’re bringing

ideally the people that you’re bringing

ideally the people that you’re bringing onto the show a lot of people don’t love

onto the show a lot of people don’t love

onto the show a lot of people don’t love the work that they do right ninety

the work that they do right ninety

the work that they do right ninety percent of people wake up and drop to a

percent of people wake up and drop to a

percent of people wake up and drop to a job that they hate so you need to

job that they hate so you need to

job that they hate so you need to believe in the work that you’re doing

believe in the work that you’re doing

believe in the work that you’re doing have passion for it and then believe

have passion for it and then believe

have passion for it and then believe that it’s going to work out and have the

that it’s going to work out and have the

that it’s going to work out and have the conviction to follow through you know

conviction to follow through you know

conviction to follow through you know perseverance the title of this show

perseverance the title of this show

perseverance the title of this show following through on the things you say

following through on the things you say

following through on the things you say you’re going to do and doing it

you’re going to do and doing it

you’re going to do and doing it consistently not just one time once a

consistently not just one time once a

consistently not just one time once a week whatever but consistently following

week whatever but consistently following

week whatever but consistently following through on the things that you said

through on the things that you said

through on the things that you said you’re going to do so for me belief is a

you’re going to do so for me belief is a

you’re going to do so for me belief is a self-confidence it’s the passion and

self-confidence it’s the passion and

self-confidence it’s the passion and it’s a conviction to follow through now

it’s a conviction to follow through now

it’s a conviction to follow through now through through with what you started

through through with what you started

through through with what you started the character premiership and also ended

the character premiership and also ended

the character premiership and also ended what are the mistake challenges of

what are the mistake challenges of

what are the mistake challenges of you had and what you want from him to

you had and what you want from him to

you had and what you want from him to get rid of today there’s been so many

get rid of today there’s been so many

get rid of today there’s been so many failures that I don’t even remember I

failures that I don’t even remember I

failures that I don’t even remember I think people are so attached to failure

think people are so attached to failure

think people are so attached to failure that people think it’s like if I fail

that people think it’s like if I fail

that people think it’s like if I fail then then that’s it I’m done for where

then then that’s it I’m done for where

then then that’s it I’m done for where people fail their way to success like

people fail their way to success like

people fail their way to success like I’ve learned them become successful

I’ve learned them become successful

I’ve learned them become successful through all the failures that have

through all the failures that have

through all the failures that have happened to me along the way I think the

happened to me along the way I think the

happened to me along the way I think the one of the biggest ones early on in my

one of the biggest ones early on in my

one of the biggest ones early on in my career my first business was trying to

career my first business was trying to

career my first business was trying to do everything myself you know I didn’t

do everything myself you know I didn’t

do everything myself you know I didn’t think to go out and model success you

think to go out and model success you

think to go out and model success you know I had a software company I was

know I had a software company I was

know I had a software company I was trying to sell software and I was just

trying to sell software and I was just

trying to sell software and I was just sucking it was making three hundred

sucking it was making three hundred

sucking it was making three hundred dollars a month and not surviving in

dollars a month and not surviving in

dollars a month and not surviving in feeling really low and feeling that I

feeling really low and feeling that I

feeling really low and feeling that I had no self-worth and I was working like

had no self-worth and I was working like

had no self-worth and I was working like I was persevering man I’d like it wasn’t

I was persevering man I’d like it wasn’t

I was persevering man I’d like it wasn’t i wasn’t slacking off I was grinding it

i wasn’t slacking off I was grinding it

i wasn’t slacking off I was grinding it out and I wasn’t getting results and

out and I wasn’t getting results and

out and I wasn’t getting results and it’s cuz I was trying to do everything

it’s cuz I was trying to do everything

it’s cuz I was trying to do everything myself and when I said you know what I’m

myself and when I said you know what I’m

myself and when I said you know what I’m not the first guy I try to sell software

not the first guy I try to sell software

not the first guy I try to sell software before and I looked at Microsoft and

before and I looked at Microsoft and

before and I looked at Microsoft and Bill Gates and how we got started I

Bill Gates and how we got started I

Bill Gates and how we got started I modeled what worked for him and up to my

modeled what worked for him and up to my

modeled what worked for him and up to my business to help me grow and so I’ve had

business to help me grow and so I’ve had

business to help me grow and so I’ve had a lot of success in modeling other

a lot of success in modeling other

a lot of success in modeling other people you know my office I have

people you know my office I have

people you know my office I have successful people that inspired me from

successful people that inspired me from

successful people that inspired me from my parents to other entrepreneurs and

my parents to other entrepreneurs and

my parents to other entrepreneurs and visionaries and I used their success cuz

visionaries and I used their success cuz

visionaries and I used their success cuz we don’t always have a great environment

we don’t always have a great environment

we don’t always have a great environment like maybe your parents haven’t done

like maybe your parents haven’t done

like maybe your parents haven’t done what you want to do maybe your friends

what you want to do maybe your friends

what you want to do maybe your friends don’t have as big a dream as you do and

don’t have as big a dream as you do and

don’t have as big a dream as you do and if you keep only listening to them

if you keep only listening to them

if you keep only listening to them you’re going to stay exactly where you

you’re going to stay exactly where you

you’re going to stay exactly where you are and so surround yourself with people

are and so surround yourself with people

are and so surround yourself with people who have done more who are reaching from

who have done more who are reaching from

who have done more who are reaching from or who have bigger dreams have bigger

or who have bigger dreams have bigger

or who have bigger dreams have bigger visions that’s important and I didn’t do

visions that’s important and I didn’t do

visions that’s important and I didn’t do enough of that early on in my life and

enough of that early on in my life and

enough of that early on in my life and when I started doing that it had a huge

when I started doing that it had a huge

when I started doing that it had a huge impact on my personal development as a

impact on my personal development as a

impact on my personal development as a human being as well as my business

human being as well as my business

human being as well as my business success now what did you find like say

success now what did you find like say

success now what did you find like say the biggest thing when I learned and

the biggest thing when I learned and

the biggest thing when I learned and like they lost only three weeks I’ve

like they lost only three weeks I’ve

like they lost only three weeks I’ve doing it this far I mean you recommend

doing it this far I mean you recommend

doing it this far I mean you recommend out for everybody you cut it a little

out for everybody you cut it a little

out for everybody you cut it a little bit the last three weeks what is it that

bit the last three weeks what is it that

bit the last three weeks what is it that you recommend for everybody like you say

you recommend for everybody like you say

you recommend for everybody like you say yeah finding a mentor to London from

yeah finding a mentor to London from

yeah finding a mentor to London from yeah absolutely i think i got when i was

yeah absolutely i think i got when i was

yeah absolutely i think i got when i was getting started uh my parents did a

getting started uh my parents did a

getting started uh my parents did a fantastic job of being my human mentor

fantastic job of being my human mentor

fantastic job of being my human mentor like teaching me how to be a good human

like teaching me how to be a good human

like teaching me how to be a good human being giving me values but they didn’t

being giving me values but they didn’t

being giving me values but they didn’t know much about business it just wasn’t

know much about business it just wasn’t

know much about business it just wasn’t their background so they did didn’t tell

their background so they did didn’t tell

their background so they did didn’t tell me you know when I said hey why what

me you know when I said hey why what

me you know when I said hey why what should I give about business and say

should I give about business and say

should I give about business and say well invest in bank stocks you know just

well invest in bank stocks you know just

well invest in bank stocks you know just didn’t have the knowledge to give me

didn’t have the knowledge to give me

didn’t have the knowledge to give me about being an entrepreneur and that’s

about being an entrepreneur and that’s

about being an entrepreneur and that’s totally cool but they gave me the

totally cool but they gave me the

totally cool but they gave me the foundation uh I went to a bank to try to

foundation uh I went to a bank to try to

foundation uh I went to a bank to try to find the mentor you know I’m went to

find the mentor you know I’m went to

find the mentor you know I’m went to bank is the entrepreneur like this is

bank is the entrepreneur like this is

bank is the entrepreneur like this is how little I knew I walked into a bank

how little I knew I walked into a bank

how little I knew I walked into a bank and asked the bank manager I’d like some

and asked the bank manager I’d like some

and asked the bank manager I’d like some help to grow my business cuz you know

help to grow my business cuz you know

help to grow my business cuz you know Bank supposed to be the Friends of

Bank supposed to be the Friends of

Bank supposed to be the Friends of entrepreneurs right and he said well do

entrepreneurs right and he said well do

entrepreneurs right and he said well do you need a loan like well i don’t know i

you need a loan like well i don’t know i

you need a loan like well i don’t know i don’t i don’t think so but i don’t know

don’t i don’t think so but i don’t know

don’t i don’t think so but i don’t know i just need i need a mentor i need help

i just need i need a mentor i need help

i just need i need a mentor i need help i don’t i don’t know what to do in my

i don’t i don’t know what to do in my

i don’t i don’t know what to do in my company so well that’s not really what

company so well that’s not really what

company so well that’s not really what we do here at the bank is like oh okay

we do here at the bank is like oh okay

we do here at the bank is like oh okay great so yeah it’s definitely a struggle

great so yeah it’s definitely a struggle

great so yeah it’s definitely a struggle finding that first mentor and and the

finding that first mentor and and the

finding that first mentor and and the people have also helped me this

people have also helped me this

people have also helped me this definitely the traditional mentors that

definitely the traditional mentors that

definitely the traditional mentors that I’ve had a number of them in my life but

I’ve had a number of them in my life but

I’ve had a number of them in my life but also the aspirational mentors like I

also the aspirational mentors like I

also the aspirational mentors like I said the people in my office I can learn

said the people in my office I can learn

said the people in my office I can learn something from people who have had

something from people who have had

something from people who have had success whether it’s steve jobs or

success whether it’s steve jobs or

success whether it’s steve jobs or howard schultz are Richard Branson or EP

howard schultz are Richard Branson or EP

howard schultz are Richard Branson or EP Giannini or whoever it is and pull

Giannini or whoever it is and pull

Giannini or whoever it is and pull something from them not to be like my

something from them not to be like my

something from them not to be like my goal is not to be the next Steve Jobs

goal is not to be the next Steve Jobs

goal is not to be the next Steve Jobs and I shouldn’t be the gold front of

and I shouldn’t be the gold front of

and I shouldn’t be the gold front of your listeners it’s to be the best

your listeners it’s to be the best

your listeners it’s to be the best version of yourself and you can pull

version of yourself and you can pull

version of yourself and you can pull something that Steve Jobs did that

something that Steve Jobs did that

something that Steve Jobs did that Howard Schultz did that Richard Branson

Howard Schultz did that Richard Branson

Howard Schultz did that Richard Branson did to make you a better entrepreneur to

did to make you a better entrepreneur to

did to make you a better entrepreneur to make you a better person and so I call

make you a better person and so I call

make you a better person and so I call those aspirational mentors and I think

those aspirational mentors and I think

those aspirational mentors and I think we focus a lot on the one-on-one mentors

we focus a lot on the one-on-one mentors

we focus a lot on the one-on-one mentors people you can sit down and you know

people you can sit down and you know

people you can sit down and you know meet for coffee and and that can

meet for coffee and and that can

meet for coffee and and that can definitely help and it’s helped me in my

definitely help and it’s helped me in my

definitely help and it’s helped me in my career but a lot of people ignore the

career but a lot of people ignore the

career but a lot of people ignore the aspirational mentorship you all never

aspirational mentorship you all never

aspirational mentorship you all never meet Steve Jobs it’s not possible maybe

meet Steve Jobs it’s not possible maybe

meet Steve Jobs it’s not possible maybe in the next life but as long as I’m on

in the next life but as long as I’m on

in the next life but as long as I’m on you know in this life I will never meet

you know in this life I will never meet

you know in this life I will never meet steve jobs but I’ve learned a lot from

steve jobs but I’ve learned a lot from

steve jobs but I’ve learned a lot from him and I consider him to be one of my

him and I consider him to be one of my

him and I consider him to be one of my mentors

now for the successfully and now where a

now for the successfully and now where a user agent to just say hello you’re

user agent to just say hello you’re

user agent to just say hello you’re right I think once you have success it’s

right I think once you have success it’s

right I think once you have success it’s easier to get complacent I think a lot

easier to get complacent I think a lot

easier to get complacent I think a lot of entrepreneurs get boring did they get

of entrepreneurs get boring did they get

of entrepreneurs get boring did they get bored like you happens a lot with with

bored like you happens a lot with with

bored like you happens a lot with with entrepreneurs you leave a job because

entrepreneurs you leave a job because

entrepreneurs you leave a job because you hate it because you don’t wanna be

you hate it because you don’t wanna be

you hate it because you don’t wanna be boxed in I don’t want to work for the

boxed in I don’t want to work for the

boxed in I don’t want to work for the man I don’t be boxed in so you’re going

man I don’t be boxed in so you’re going

man I don’t be boxed in so you’re going to start your own company and its total

to start your own company and its total

to start your own company and its total creative freedom at the start and then

creative freedom at the start and then

creative freedom at the start and then you find some customers and then you

you find some customers and then you

you find some customers and then you start working towards something that you

start working towards something that you

start working towards something that you that works but often that success

that works but often that success

that works but often that success becomes chains for future growth you

becomes chains for future growth you

becomes chains for future growth you boxed yourself in of how to run a

boxed yourself in of how to run a

boxed yourself in of how to run a business and it’s super hard to break

business and it’s super hard to break

business and it’s super hard to break out of it to do something else and so

out of it to do something else and so

out of it to do something else and so for me I have a situation where you know

for me I have a situation where you know

for me I have a situation where you know a lot of the people in my life a lot of

a lot of the people in my life a lot of

a lot of the people in my life a lot of my friends still that I meet regularly

my friends still that I meet regularly

my friends still that I meet regularly here in Toronto that I love is human

here in Toronto that I love is human

here in Toronto that I love is human beings they can’t give me be this

beings they can’t give me be this

beings they can’t give me be this motivation and advice because I’ve done

motivation and advice because I’ve done

motivation and advice because I’ve done more because they look at me and say wow

more because they look at me and say wow

more because they look at me and say wow when you’ve done such a great job with

when you’ve done such a great job with

when you’ve done such a great job with that bulk or that youtube channel or

that bulk or that youtube channel or

that bulk or that youtube channel or whatever and I appreciate it but i also

whatever and I appreciate it but i also

whatever and I appreciate it but i also don’t need it right like I want like I

don’t need it right like I want like I

don’t need it right like I want like I want something to challenge me I want

want something to challenge me I want

want something to challenge me I want somebody this happen you know you’ve

somebody this happen you know you’ve

somebody this happen you know you’ve done a good job but uh it’s just ok

done a good job but uh it’s just ok

done a good job but uh it’s just ok liked you should be playing that way

liked you should be playing that way

liked you should be playing that way bigger game so I’m going to bust me up a

bigger game so I’m going to bust me up a

bigger game so I’m going to bust me up a little bit and so I get that a lot

little bit and so I get that a lot

little bit and so I get that a lot through the ice nation low mentors I do

through the ice nation low mentors I do

through the ice nation low mentors I do it on my youtube channel where we do a

it on my youtube channel where we do a

it on my youtube channel where we do a you know I do a daily top 10 video

you know I do a daily top 10 video

you know I do a daily top 10 video series on my channel or take lessons

series on my channel or take lessons

series on my channel or take lessons from a successful entrepreneur Elon Musk

from a successful entrepreneur Elon Musk

from a successful entrepreneur Elon Musk or whoever it is and I did that

or whoever it is and I did that

or whoever it is and I did that selfishly for me because I want to be

selfishly for me because I want to be

selfishly for me because I want to be around Elon Musk and I may never meet

around Elon Musk and I may never meet

around Elon Musk and I may never meet him but I want to hang around him

him but I want to hang around him

him but I want to hang around him digitally as much as I can and hopefully

digitally as much as I can and hopefully

digitally as much as I can and hopefully some of his ideas and mindsets and way

some of his ideas and mindsets and way

some of his ideas and mindsets and way of thinking rub off on the me that

of thinking rub off on the me that

of thinking rub off on the me that changed my perception of the world and

changed my perception of the world and

changed my perception of the world and every day we do a different successful

every day we do a different successful

every day we do a different successful person whether it’s an entrepreneur an

person whether it’s an entrepreneur an

person whether it’s an entrepreneur an athlete a musician inventor whatever it

athlete a musician inventor whatever it

athlete a musician inventor whatever it is and that helps create a better

is and that helps create a better

is and that helps create a better environment at least for me to continue

environment at least for me to continue

environment at least for me to continue to stretch myself and make me want to do

to stretch myself and make me want to do

to stretch myself and make me want to do more because if i look at Elon Musk

more because if i look at Elon Musk

more because if i look at Elon Musk I’ve done nothing compared to Elon Musk

I’ve done nothing compared to Elon Musk

I’ve done nothing compared to Elon Musk right like zero I’m a tiny speck not

right like zero I’m a tiny speck not

right like zero I’m a tiny speck not even on the map and so you know looking

even on the map and so you know looking

even on the map and so you know looking at these guys who I may never reach that

at these guys who I may never reach that

at these guys who I may never reach that potential but looking at them and seeing

potential but looking at them and seeing

potential but looking at them and seeing how they do things inspires and

how they do things inspires and

how they do things inspires and motivates me to want to do more when the

motivates me to want to do more when the

motivates me to want to do more when the people around you may be saying that

people around you may be saying that

people around you may be saying that I’ve already done a lot and so I find

I’ve already done a lot and so I find

I’ve already done a lot and so I find that super helpful and I worked only a

that super helpful and I worked only a

that super helpful and I worked only a couple Joey and get to be and you asked

couple Joey and get to be and you asked

couple Joey and get to be and you asked him about people and family around

him about people and family around

him about people and family around saying that he’ll support way what you

saying that he’ll support way what you

saying that he’ll support way what you do not you like the person doing that in

do not you like the person doing that in

do not you like the person doing that in an entrepreneur say what but you’re

an entrepreneur say what but you’re

an entrepreneur say what but you’re picking on that one yeah I’ve been

picking on that one yeah I’ve been

picking on that one yeah I’ve been fortunate in that I have people in my

fortunate in that I have people in my

fortunate in that I have people in my life who are supportive of me even

life who are supportive of me even

life who are supportive of me even though they can’t give me advice you

though they can’t give me advice you

though they can’t give me advice you know my parents always you know they

know my parents always you know they

know my parents always you know they always believed in me they always told

always believed in me they always told

always believed in me they always told me I could do whatever I want and I I

me I could do whatever I want and I I

me I could do whatever I want and I I believe that myself but they can never

believe that myself but they can never

believe that myself but they can never tell me exactly what I wanted to do and

tell me exactly what I wanted to do and

tell me exactly what I wanted to do and I have two siblings and the three of us

I have two siblings and the three of us

I have two siblings and the three of us have all gone in totally different

have all gone in totally different

have all gone in totally different directions from each other and from our

directions from each other and from our

directions from each other and from our parents were all our own enigmas and I

parents were all our own enigmas and I

parents were all our own enigmas and I credit my parents were helping helping

credit my parents were helping helping

credit my parents were helping helping us and kind of encourage ourselves and

us and kind of encourage ourselves and

us and kind of encourage ourselves and not follow in our parents footsteps um

not follow in our parents footsteps um

not follow in our parents footsteps um that being said so like I’m fortunate

that being said so like I’m fortunate

that being said so like I’m fortunate you know that doesn’t mean that’s that’s

you know that doesn’t mean that’s that’s

you know that doesn’t mean that’s that’s why I’m successful and and I’m you know

why I’m successful and and I’m you know

why I’m successful and and I’m you know I can’t take accountability for me being

I can’t take accountability for me being

I can’t take accountability for me being more successful right you know i’m i’m

more successful right you know i’m i’m

more successful right you know i’m i’m i’m canadian i consider that to be a

i’m canadian i consider that to be a

i’m canadian i consider that to be a good thing you know others who are from

good thing you know others who are from

good thing you know others who are from other countries you know they don’t have

other countries you know they don’t have

other countries you know they don’t have the same resources and opportunities as

the same resources and opportunities as

the same resources and opportunities as as Canadians do but you can still be

as Canadians do but you can still be

as Canadians do but you can still be successful a lot of people blame the

successful a lot of people blame the

successful a lot of people blame the lack of parental support the lack of

lack of parental support the lack of

lack of parental support the lack of being in the right country the lack of

being in the right country the lack of

being in the right country the lack of government support lack of an

government support lack of an

government support lack of an educationally I can’t be successful

educationally I can’t be successful

educationally I can’t be successful because I didn’t go to Harvard or

because I didn’t go to Harvard or

because I didn’t go to Harvard or whatever my parents didn’t have enough

whatever my parents didn’t have enough

whatever my parents didn’t have enough money to send me here or you know our

money to send me here or you know our

money to send me here or you know our parents weren’t entrepreneurs so you

parents weren’t entrepreneurs so you

parents weren’t entrepreneurs so you know I won’t be successful I never had

know I won’t be successful I never had

know I won’t be successful I never had anybody I knew growing up take

anybody I knew growing up take

anybody I knew growing up take accountability like just because you

accountability like just because you

accountability like just because you haven’t had the resources before it

haven’t had the resources before it

haven’t had the resources before it doesn’t mean that you can’t use the

doesn’t mean that you can’t use the

doesn’t mean that you can’t use the resources that you have

resources that you have

resources that you have right now and more importantly be

right now and more importantly be

right now and more importantly be resourceful enough to go off and want to

resourceful enough to go off and want to

resourceful enough to go off and want to create something so having people around

create something so having people around

create something so having people around you that support you is important and if

you that support you is important and if

you that support you is important and if you don’t have that right now don’t let

you don’t have that right now don’t let

you don’t have that right now don’t let that be your story for the rest of your

that be your story for the rest of your

that be your story for the rest of your life so your parents didn’t support you

life so your parents didn’t support you

life so your parents didn’t support you okay what are you going to do that you

okay what are you going to do that you

okay what are you going to do that you like so for the next 40 years of your

like so for the next 40 years of your

like so for the next 40 years of your life you’re just going to whine and

life you’re just going to whine and

life you’re just going to whine and complain that your parents and support

complain that your parents and support

complain that your parents and support you at some point you have to take

you at some point you have to take

you at some point you have to take accountability for your own life and say

accountability for your own life and say

accountability for your own life and say I’m going to create an environment that

I’m going to create an environment that

I’m going to create an environment that supports me being the greatest meet with

supports me being the greatest meet with

supports me being the greatest meet with us listen to your podcast watching

us listen to your podcast watching

us listen to your podcast watching YouTube shows going out and making new

YouTube shows going out and making new

YouTube shows going out and making new friends reading books and inspire you in

friends reading books and inspire you in

friends reading books and inspire you in right you have to take accountability

right you have to take accountability

right you have to take accountability and responsibility for your own life you

and responsibility for your own life you

and responsibility for your own life you know if you’re eight years old okay

know if you’re eight years old okay

know if you’re eight years old okay maybe not but if you’re a grown-ass man

maybe not but if you’re a grown-ass man

maybe not but if you’re a grown-ass man you got to go and take accountability

you got to go and take accountability

you got to go and take accountability for your life and stop blaming the

for your life and stop blaming the

for your life and stop blaming the circumstances because as long as you

circumstances because as long as you

circumstances because as long as you blame those other people those other

blame those other people those other

blame those other people those other things it’s never my fault such that

things it’s never my fault such that

things it’s never my fault such that guy’s fault their fault right as long as

guy’s fault their fault right as long as

guy’s fault their fault right as long as you’re blaming them your life is never

you’re blaming them your life is never

you’re blaming them your life is never going to change now what motivates you

going to change now what motivates you

going to change now what motivates you the most want to put your feet on the

the most want to put your feet on the

the most want to put your feet on the floor every morning for me its impact

floor every morning for me its impact

floor every morning for me its impact it’s knowing that I’m helping

it’s knowing that I’m helping

it’s knowing that I’m helping entrepreneurs it’s sometimes it’s hard

entrepreneurs it’s sometimes it’s hard

entrepreneurs it’s sometimes it’s hard like in the early days it was hard I

like in the early days it was hard I

like in the early days it was hard I would make a video and nobody watches it

would make a video and nobody watches it

would make a video and nobody watches it all right or even before videos I would

all right or even before videos I would

all right or even before videos I would be speaking and I would love speaking

be speaking and I would love speaking

be speaking and I would love speaking gigs and engaging with the audience but

gigs and engaging with the audience but

gigs and engaging with the audience but then it might be a month or two months

then it might be a month or two months

then it might be a month or two months or six months between these speaking

or six months between these speaking

or six months between these speaking engagements oh how do I stay kind of

engagements oh how do I stay kind of

engagements oh how do I stay kind of motivated in between what i would do

motivated in between what i would do

motivated in between what i would do from that is i would take some of the

from that is i would take some of the

from that is i would take some of the emails that people sent me and i would

emails that people sent me and i would

emails that people sent me and i would put it together in this powerpoint slide

put it together in this powerpoint slide

put it together in this powerpoint slide show that i watched every morning to

show that i watched every morning to

show that i watched every morning to kind of remind myself that I’m having an

kind of remind myself that I’m having an

kind of remind myself that I’m having an impact that the things that I’m doing is

impact that the things that I’m doing is

impact that the things that I’m doing is changing people’s lives even in some

changing people’s lives even in some

changing people’s lives even in some small way now I’m fortunate that I get

small way now I’m fortunate that I get

small way now I’m fortunate that I get that from my youtube channel is that you

that from my youtube channel is that you

that from my youtube channel is that you know we’ve got people live streaming

know we’ve got people live streaming

know we’ve got people live streaming watching we’ve got you know listening

watching we’ve got you know listening

watching we’ve got you know listening afterwards on my youtube channel and you

afterwards on my youtube channel and you

afterwards on my youtube channel and you can see the comments come in and knowing

can see the comments come in and knowing

can see the comments come in and knowing that excites me and keep you motivated

that excites me and keep you motivated

that excites me and keep you motivated and I know I have a responsibility to go

and I know I have a responsibility to go

and I know I have a responsibility to go and help others but that’s fortunate

and help others but that’s fortunate

and help others but that’s fortunate where I’m at now because of the moment

where I’m at now because of the moment

where I’m at now because of the moment built up but again in the early days I

built up but again in the early days I

built up but again in the early days I didn’t have it so I had to create it for

didn’t have it so I had to create it for

didn’t have it so I had to create it for myself where I made that PowerPoint

myself where I made that PowerPoint

myself where I made that PowerPoint slide show that I would watch every

slide show that I would watch every

slide show that I would watch every morning to kind of remind myself because

morning to kind of remind myself because

morning to kind of remind myself because it’s so easy right like you have a great

it’s so easy right like you have a great

it’s so easy right like you have a great day you land a big client you go to some

day you land a big client you go to some

day you land a big client you go to some event you hear some speaker you listen

event you hear some speaker you listen

event you hear some speaker you listen to the perseverance pays off podcast you

to the perseverance pays off podcast you

to the perseverance pays off podcast you get all jazzed up and inspired and the

get all jazzed up and inspired and the

get all jazzed up and inspired and the next day like poof it’s gone look where

next day like poof it’s gone look where

next day like poof it’s gone look where was the guy who is all motivated

was the guy who is all motivated

was the guy who is all motivated yesterday and so instead of randomly

yesterday and so instead of randomly

yesterday and so instead of randomly listening to some podcasts on one day

listening to some podcasts on one day

listening to some podcasts on one day that inspires you make that part of your

that inspires you make that part of your

that inspires you make that part of your daily routine right like perseverance

daily routine right like perseverance

daily routine right like perseverance pays off motivates you and that comes

pays off motivates you and that comes

pays off motivates you and that comes out once a week then every Tuesday

out once a week then every Tuesday

out once a week then every Tuesday morning you’re setting your schedule to

morning you’re setting your schedule to

morning you’re setting your schedule to go listen to the episode to remind

go listen to the episode to remind

go listen to the episode to remind myself to persevere and then monday

myself to persevere and then monday

myself to persevere and then monday wednesday thursday friday i’m doing

wednesday thursday friday i’m doing

wednesday thursday friday i’m doing something else like designing an

something else like designing an

something else like designing an environment that whatever works for you

environment that whatever works for you

environment that whatever works for you in terms of motivation everybody kind of

in terms of motivation everybody kind of

in terms of motivation everybody kind of takes a different way but whatever works

takes a different way but whatever works

takes a different way but whatever works for you design that into your

for you design that into your

for you design that into your environment daily because even if you

environment daily because even if you

environment daily because even if you are super high motivated yesterday at

are super high motivated yesterday at

are super high motivated yesterday at least for me it’s often just gone the

least for me it’s often just gone the

least for me it’s often just gone the next day I need to start from scratch

next day I need to start from scratch

next day I need to start from scratch every single day now after this point

every single day now after this point

every single day now after this point explosive that’s probably the best

explosive that’s probably the best

explosive that’s probably the best recertified that you’ve ever seen um

recertified that you’ve ever seen um

recertified that you’ve ever seen um best piece of advice I’ve received this

best piece of advice I’ve received this

best piece of advice I’ve received this probably from my parents which was just

probably from my parents which was just

probably from my parents which was just to do what I’m passionate about to do

to do what I’m passionate about to do

to do what I’m passionate about to do what excites me to do what I love and to

what excites me to do what I love and to

what excites me to do what I love and to explore if I don’t know like my parents

explore if I don’t know like my parents

explore if I don’t know like my parents were the kind of people who would drive

were the kind of people who would drive

were the kind of people who would drive me around when I was young to do

me around when I was young to do

me around when I was young to do baseball card shows you know 92 93 Blue

baseball card shows you know 92 93 Blue

baseball card shows you know 92 93 Blue Jays World Series that was a thing so

Jays World Series that was a thing so

Jays World Series that was a thing so I’m 12 13 years old I’m even just before

I’m 12 13 years old I’m even just before

I’m 12 13 years old I’m even just before that I was out buying cards selling cars

that I was out buying cards selling cars

that I was out buying cards selling cars going to trade shows I’m this you know

going to trade shows I’m this you know

going to trade shows I’m this you know eleven-year-old trying to make deals

eleven-year-old trying to make deals

eleven-year-old trying to make deals with 45 year old guys on cards nickel

with 45 year old guys on cards nickel

with 45 year old guys on cards nickel and diming them serious like ten cents

and diming them serious like ten cents

and diming them serious like ten cents off on a deal and they would drive me

off on a deal and they would drive me

off on a deal and they would drive me all over there because they wanted to

all over there because they wanted to

all over there because they wanted to encourage me to follow my passion even

encourage me to follow my passion even

encourage me to follow my passion even if they like they didn’t understand

if they like they didn’t understand

if they like they didn’t understand baseball cards they had no interest in

baseball cards they had no interest in

baseball cards they had no interest in baseball cards they didn’t understand

baseball cards they didn’t understand

baseball cards they didn’t understand why I had to line up and wait overnight

why I had to line up and wait overnight

why I had to line up and wait overnight at some places and taking the spring

at some places and taking the spring

at some places and taking the spring training every year to get autographs of

training every year to get autographs of

training every year to get autographs of Roberto

Roberto

Roberto on Joe Carter and all these guys so you

on Joe Carter and all these guys so you

on Joe Carter and all these guys so you know I’ve tried to follow that through

know I’ve tried to follow that through

know I’ve tried to follow that through for everything that I do that if if you

for everything that I do that if if you

for everything that I do that if if you wake up and you are not looking forward

wake up and you are not looking forward

wake up and you are not looking forward to what you’re going to do today for too

to what you’re going to do today for too

to what you’re going to do today for too many days in a row something has to

many days in a row something has to

many days in a row something has to change like life is not perfect crap

change like life is not perfect crap

change like life is not perfect crap will happen you don’t enjoy every single

will happen you don’t enjoy every single

will happen you don’t enjoy every single part of your job but if you’re waking up

part of your job but if you’re waking up

part of your job but if you’re waking up day after day after day and looking self

day after day after day and looking self

day after day after day and looking self in the mirror and saying man I I’m not

in the mirror and saying man I I’m not

in the mirror and saying man I I’m not looking forward to today you got to

looking forward to today you got to

looking forward to today you got to change your life you got to do something

change your life you got to do something

change your life you got to do something that you are passionate about and so

that you are passionate about and so

that you are passionate about and so I’ve tried to ride that through and it’s

I’ve tried to ride that through and it’s

I’ve tried to ride that through and it’s been super helpful for me and if you

been super helpful for me and if you

been super helpful for me and if you create at least say so after not after a

create at least say so after not after a

create at least say so after not after a point it’s not work anymore it’s

point it’s not work anymore it’s

point it’s not work anymore it’s something yeah you’re joining me yeah

something yeah you’re joining me yeah

something yeah you’re joining me yeah and this you know this is the time of

and this you know this is the time of

and this you know this is the time of thinking when do I quit right some

thinking when do I quit right some

thinking when do I quit right some people say never quit don’t quit never

people say never quit don’t quit never

people say never quit don’t quit never give up um and and I agree if you are

give up um and and I agree if you are

give up um and and I agree if you are still passionate what you’re doing like

still passionate what you’re doing like

still passionate what you’re doing like you need to persevere as long as you

you need to persevere as long as you

you need to persevere as long as you still love the crap because maybe you

still love the crap because maybe you

still love the crap because maybe you need to get better I like maybe you’re

need to get better I like maybe you’re

need to get better I like maybe you’re just not good enough I what you do yet

just not good enough I what you do yet

just not good enough I what you do yet you know maybe you need you want to be

you know maybe you need you want to be

you know maybe you need you want to be an NHL hockey player maybe you got to

an NHL hockey player maybe you got to

an NHL hockey player maybe you got to get on the ice and take more practice

get on the ice and take more practice

get on the ice and take more practice shots and be there at five in the

shots and be there at five in the

shots and be there at five in the morning and drill and skate like just

morning and drill and skate like just

morning and drill and skate like just because you know that’s your dream if

because you know that’s your dream if

because you know that’s your dream if you’re just going once a week it’s never

you’re just going once a week it’s never

you’re just going once a week it’s never going to happen you gotta you gotta

going to happen you gotta you gotta

going to happen you gotta you gotta persevere and drive through but if you

persevere and drive through but if you

persevere and drive through but if you don’t love it anymore if you’re dreading

don’t love it anymore if you’re dreading

don’t love it anymore if you’re dreading it you know it was just okay then that’s

it you know it was just okay then that’s

it you know it was just okay then that’s the time to quit that’s the time to go

the time to quit that’s the time to go

the time to quit that’s the time to go on and move there’s something else so

on and move there’s something else so

on and move there’s something else so for me that’s always a gut check as long

for me that’s always a gut check as long

for me that’s always a gut check as long as I’m loving what I’m doing then I will

as I’m loving what I’m doing then I will

as I’m loving what I’m doing then I will keep finding a way to make it work and

keep finding a way to make it work and

keep finding a way to make it work and just try again and try again and

just try again and try again and

just try again and try again and persevere and keep going but if I’ve

persevere and keep going but if I’ve

persevere and keep going but if I’ve lost the love and this okay sometimes

lost the love and this okay sometimes

lost the love and this okay sometimes you start something and maybe that day

you start something and maybe that day

you start something and maybe that day you lose the love maybe in a year you

you lose the love maybe in a year you

you lose the love maybe in a year you lose the love but once you lose the love

lose the love but once you lose the love

lose the love but once you lose the love if that happens then you owe it to

if that happens then you owe it to

if that happens then you owe it to yourself to quit even if you had some

yourself to quit even if you had some

yourself to quit even if you had some success at it and go chase something

success at it and go chase something

success at it and go chase something else even if you don’t know what that

else even if you don’t know what that

else even if you don’t know what that something else is yet because staying

something else is yet because staying

something else is yet because staying where you are right now and something

where you are right now and something

where you are right now and something that’s just mediocre is never going to

that’s just mediocre is never going to

that’s just mediocre is never going to let you become the greatest you one

let you become the greatest you one

let you become the greatest you one question I

question I

question I I’ve heard you mention it what’s your

I’ve heard you mention it what’s your

I’ve heard you mention it what’s your thoughts on snapchat uh I’m not a huge

thoughts on snapchat uh I’m not a huge

thoughts on snapchat uh I’m not a huge snapchat user um the couple reasons one

snapchat user um the couple reasons one

snapchat user um the couple reasons one I don’t like hell things disappear and

I don’t like hell things disappear and

I don’t like hell things disappear and yes you can download them and yes you

yes you can download them and yes you

yes you can download them and yes you can upload them to youtube or whatever

can upload them to youtube or whatever

can upload them to youtube or whatever you want to do afterwards and and I’m

you want to do afterwards and and I’m

you want to do afterwards and and I’m not massively into the vlogging style

not massively into the vlogging style

not massively into the vlogging style yet so I haven’t figured out how to

yet so I haven’t figured out how to

yet so I haven’t figured out how to story tell in a way that works best for

story tell in a way that works best for

story tell in a way that works best for me there’s definitely a lot of audience

me there’s definitely a lot of audience

me there’s definitely a lot of audience there I think people are under

there I think people are under

there I think people are under estimating it a lot I think people think

estimating it a lot I think people think

estimating it a lot I think people think it’s just for kids where it’s not as

it’s just for kids where it’s not as

it’s just for kids where it’s not as there’s a lot of grown-ups on there too

there’s a lot of grown-ups on there too

there’s a lot of grown-ups on there too and a lot of your market could be on

and a lot of your market could be on

and a lot of your market could be on there I think if you are thinking about

there I think if you are thinking about

there I think if you are thinking about video and you don’t have the resources

video and you don’t have the resources

video and you don’t have the resources to make a good quality product on a

to make a good quality product on a

to make a good quality product on a YouTube video snapchats an easy way to

YouTube video snapchats an easy way to

YouTube video snapchats an easy way to get started I recently acquired Toronto

get started I recently acquired Toronto

get started I recently acquired Toronto dance also which is the largest salsa

dance also which is the largest salsa

dance also which is the largest salsa dance school in North America and i want

dance school in North America and i want

dance school in North America and i want the owner or I’m new and I want they the

the owner or I’m new and I want they the

the owner or I’m new and I want they the manager that I brought in to do video

manager that I brought in to do video

manager that I brought in to do video and so I gave him a snapchat account

and so I gave him a snapchat account

and so I gave him a snapchat account like a set up a snapchat account and I

like a set up a snapchat account and I

like a set up a snapchat account and I want you three times a day to be

want you three times a day to be

want you three times a day to be snapping away from Jonathan salsa

snapping away from Jonathan salsa

snapping away from Jonathan salsa because we haven’t reached the point

because we haven’t reached the point

because we haven’t reached the point where proven video would be a good

where proven video would be a good

where proven video would be a good investment a hire a team to come on and

investment a hire a team to come on and

investment a hire a team to come on and do full-time kind of YouTube videos

do full-time kind of YouTube videos

do full-time kind of YouTube videos there so he’s snapping away and he’s

there so he’s snapping away and he’s

there so he’s snapping away and he’s he’s having a great time and he’s

he’s having a great time and he’s

he’s having a great time and he’s getting some interest and it’s helping

getting some interest and it’s helping

getting some interest and it’s helping the business so I’m a fan I just not I

the business so I’m a fan I just not I

the business so I’m a fan I just not I haven’t figured out the use for me I

haven’t figured out the use for me I

haven’t figured out the use for me I feel like it’s maybe still a little too

feel like it’s maybe still a little too

feel like it’s maybe still a little too early um for me I like to come into

early um for me I like to come into

early um for me I like to come into something that’s already like massive

something that’s already like massive

something that’s already like massive and then just use my content to dominate

and then just use my content to dominate

and then just use my content to dominate where I feel what snapchat it’s too hard

where I feel what snapchat it’s too hard

where I feel what snapchat it’s too hard to explore at the moment there’s no way

to explore at the moment there’s no way

to explore at the moment there’s no way to find people except by name so people

to find people except by name so people

to find people except by name so people are promoting it through Twitter through

are promoting it through Twitter through

are promoting it through Twitter through their newsletter on their on their

their newsletter on their on their

their newsletter on their on their website so i will likely get on there

website so i will likely get on there

website so i will likely get on there and in a bigger way just not yet now one

and in a bigger way just not yet now one

and in a bigger way just not yet now one question people always hate do you have

question people always hate do you have

question people always hate do you have any regrets uh

I don’t know I don’t spend a lot of time

I don’t know I don’t spend a lot of time thinking about it um I almost did and

thinking about it um I almost did and

thinking about it um I almost did and and I guess that’s you know the biggest

and I guess that’s you know the biggest

and I guess that’s you know the biggest decision ever had to make in my life the

decision ever had to make in my life the

decision ever had to make in my life the hardest decision was when I was in my

hardest decision was when I was in my

hardest decision was when I was in my last few University and I was thinking

last few University and I was thinking

last few University and I was thinking about going for these high paying jobs

about going for these high paying jobs

about going for these high paying jobs that I thought I always wanted six

that I thought I always wanted six

that I thought I always wanted six figures traveling around the world all

figures traveling around the world all

figures traveling around the world all the you know things that you’re say yet

the you know things that you’re say yet

the you know things that you’re say yet you want and then I had an opportunity

you want and then I had an opportunity

you want and then I had an opportunity to work as an owner at the software

to work as an owner at the software

to work as an owner at the software company that wasn’t making any money and

company that wasn’t making any money and

company that wasn’t making any money and I had a really hard time trying to

I had a really hard time trying to

I had a really hard time trying to figure out what I would want to do and

figure out what I would want to do and

figure out what I would want to do and the thing that helped me through was I

the thing that helped me through was I

the thing that helped me through was I imagined myself kind of on my deathbed

imagined myself kind of on my deathbed

imagined myself kind of on my deathbed looking back and thinking will I regret

looking back and thinking will I regret

looking back and thinking will I regret this well I regret saying no and going

this well I regret saying no and going

this well I regret saying no and going for this job and I thought I would like

for this job and I thought I would like

for this job and I thought I would like if I didn’t try this out I thought I

if I didn’t try this out I thought I

if I didn’t try this out I thought I would regret it and so that was the last

would regret it and so that was the last

would regret it and so that was the last thing that kind of pushed me over to say

thing that kind of pushed me over to say

thing that kind of pushed me over to say okay I’m going to go in and give it a

okay I’m going to go in and give it a

okay I’m going to go in and give it a shot it doesn’t work I can always go

shot it doesn’t work I can always go

shot it doesn’t work I can always go back and get one of these jobs and ever

back and get one of these jobs and ever

back and get one of these jobs and ever since then I’ve used that as a proxy to

since then I’ve used that as a proxy to

since then I’ve used that as a proxy to figure out all the big important

figure out all the big important

figure out all the big important decisions in my life well I regret

decisions in my life well I regret

decisions in my life well I regret saying no or saying yes to this and if I

saying no or saying yes to this and if I

saying no or saying yes to this and if I feel like I will regret it than I have

feel like I will regret it than I have

feel like I will regret it than I have to go I have to I have to give it a try

to go I have to I have to give it a try

to go I have to I have to give it a try and so i’m sure i have a bunch of little

and so i’m sure i have a bunch of little

and so i’m sure i have a bunch of little regrets like you know I don’t know did I

regrets like you know I don’t know did I

regrets like you know I don’t know did I buy my flowers doing by my wife flowers

buy my flowers doing by my wife flowers

buy my flowers doing by my wife flowers yesterday no maybe I should regret that

yesterday no maybe I should regret that

yesterday no maybe I should regret that you know could have been nicer to

you know could have been nicer to

you know could have been nicer to somebody in the elevator and say hi to

somebody in the elevator and say hi to

somebody in the elevator and say hi to them or something right like sure

them or something right like sure

them or something right like sure there’s all these little things in life

there’s all these little things in life

there’s all these little things in life that you can you can be the

that you can you can be the

that you can you can be the monday-morning quarterback and analyze

monday-morning quarterback and analyze

monday-morning quarterback and analyze and say I could have done that better

and say I could have done that better

and say I could have done that better with terms of major things there’s

with terms of major things there’s

with terms of major things there’s nothing that that I regret and I’m glad

nothing that that I regret and I’m glad

nothing that that I regret and I’m glad that I kind of discovered that framework

that I kind of discovered that framework

that I kind of discovered that framework when I did because I needed it and I

when I did because I needed it and I

when I did because I needed it and I almost made a huge is a huge mistake in

almost made a huge is a huge mistake in

almost made a huge is a huge mistake in my life now what’s your definition of

my life now what’s your definition of

my life now what’s your definition of Nina / careers perseverance to me is

Nina / careers perseverance to me is

Nina / careers perseverance to me is just keep going is keep going when

just keep going is keep going when

just keep going is keep going when people tell you it’s not going to work

people tell you it’s not going to work

people tell you it’s not going to work out when you dealt yourself when all you

out when you dealt yourself when all you

out when you dealt yourself when all you see is darkness around you when there’s

see is darkness around you when there’s

see is darkness around you when there’s no light at the end of the time

no light at the end of the time

no light at the end of the time all but you just feel it like it’s in

all but you just feel it like it’s in

all but you just feel it like it’s in you like I need to get this out I need

you like I need to get this out I need

you like I need to get this out I need to keep going it’s something

to keep going it’s something

to keep going it’s something inexplicable I think you can force

inexplicable I think you can force

inexplicable I think you can force yourself to do something that you don’t

yourself to do something that you don’t

yourself to do something that you don’t like for for so long until you reach a

like for for so long until you reach a

like for for so long until you reach a breaking point but when it’s when you

breaking point but when it’s when you

breaking point but when it’s when you love something that you have to find a

love something that you have to find a

love something that you have to find a way to keep going even when it doesn’t

way to keep going even when it doesn’t

way to keep going even when it doesn’t make logical sense to anybody like

make logical sense to anybody like

make logical sense to anybody like friends and family sure but like even to

friends and family sure but like even to

friends and family sure but like even to yourself why am I doing this I don’t

yourself why am I doing this I don’t

yourself why am I doing this I don’t know I love it I have to find a way to

know I love it I have to find a way to

know I love it I have to find a way to keep going that’s perseverance to me you

keep going that’s perseverance to me you

keep going that’s perseverance to me you keep going on it when you love it even

keep going on it when you love it even

keep going on it when you love it even though it may not make sense because

though it may not make sense because

though it may not make sense because when it makes sense to everybody

when it makes sense to everybody

when it makes sense to everybody supports you it’s easy I don’t know if I

supports you it’s easy I don’t know if I

supports you it’s easy I don’t know if I would call that perseverance write it

would call that perseverance write it

would call that perseverance write it like it’s it’s so much easier it’s when

like it’s it’s so much easier it’s when

like it’s it’s so much easier it’s when it’s hard it’s when you’re not getting

it’s hard it’s when you’re not getting

it’s hard it’s when you’re not getting results is when you know you’re you’re

results is when you know you’re you’re

results is when you know you’re you’re working 16 hours a day or whatever it is

working 16 hours a day or whatever it is

working 16 hours a day or whatever it is you’re pouring everything you’ve got

you’re pouring everything you’ve got

you’re pouring everything you’ve got into it and you don’t know if it’s going

into it and you don’t know if it’s going

into it and you don’t know if it’s going to work out that to me is perseverance

to work out that to me is perseverance

to work out that to me is perseverance that’s what best way for today my fans

that’s what best way for today my fans

that’s what best way for today my fans to not a minister to go to the find me

to not a minister to go to the find me

to not a minister to go to the find me ah easiest way just to look you know

ah easiest way just to look you know

ah easiest way just to look you know look up Evan Carmichael you’ll find me

look up Evan Carmichael you’ll find me

look up Evan Carmichael you’ll find me my website YouTube channel it’s where I

my website YouTube channel it’s where I

my website YouTube channel it’s where I live mostly is on my youtube channel

live mostly is on my youtube channel

live mostly is on my youtube channel Twitter but that’s prolly this way

Twitter but that’s prolly this way

Twitter but that’s prolly this way whatever whatever method they like using

whatever whatever method they like using

whatever whatever method they like using you can just search heaven comical and

you can just search heaven comical and

you can just search heaven comical and you can find me I’ve actually got a

you can find me I’ve actually got a

you can find me I’ve actually got a quote on my desk that is highly relevant

quote on my desk that is highly relevant

quote on my desk that is highly relevant let me let me pull it up I got it here

let me let me pull it up I got it here

let me let me pull it up I got it here Calvin Coolidge president of the united

Calvin Coolidge president of the united

Calvin Coolidge president of the united states that nobody knows about we got it

states that nobody knows about we got it

states that nobody knows about we got it up here uh nothing in this world can

up here uh nothing in this world can

up here uh nothing in this world can take the place of persistence you know

take the place of persistence you know

take the place of persistence you know this one this is a good one nothing this

this one this is a good one nothing this

this one this is a good one nothing this place can take the oil persistence

place can take the oil persistence

place can take the oil persistence talent will not nothing is more common

talent will not nothing is more common

talent will not nothing is more common than unsuccessful people with talent

than unsuccessful people with talent

than unsuccessful people with talent genius will not unrewarded genius is

genius will not unrewarded genius is

genius will not unrewarded genius is almost a proverb educational not the

almost a proverb educational not the

almost a proverb educational not the world is full of educated derelicts

world is full of educated derelicts

world is full of educated derelicts persistence and determination alone are

persistence and determination alone are

persistence and determination alone are omnipotent the slogan press on has

omnipotent the slogan press on has

omnipotent the slogan press on has solved and always will solve the

solved and always will solve the

solved and always will solve the problems of the human race

that’s perseverance to me oh I can’t

that’s perseverance to me oh I can’t thank you enough Evan and hopefully we

thank you enough Evan and hopefully we

thank you enough Evan and hopefully we can do this again cool look forward to

can do this again cool look forward to

can do this again cool look forward to the show man and keep me posted thank

the show man and keep me posted thank

the show man and keep me posted thank you

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