what’s up everybody welcome to another YouTube hangout super excited to be here
YouTube hangout super excited to be here
YouTube hangout super excited to be here with a special guest and new friend Josh
with a special guest and new friend Josh
with a special guest and new friend Josh Vern is a serial entrepreneur he’s run a
Vern is a serial entrepreneur he’s run a
Vern is a serial entrepreneur he’s run a number of companies he’s had 20 years
number of companies he’s had 20 years
number of companies he’s had 20 years experience as a business owner started
experience as a business owner started
experience as a business owner started his first business when he was nine
his first business when he was nine
his first business when he was nine years old and it hasn’t looked back
years old and it hasn’t looked back
years old and it hasn’t looked back since and is now the CEO and founder of
since and is now the CEO and founder of
since and is now the CEO and founder of a company called flock u which is a
a company called flock u which is a
a company called flock u which is a pretty cool platform for college
pretty cool platform for college
pretty cool platform for college students trying to help each other out
students trying to help each other out
students trying to help each other out get a voice make some money and also
get a voice make some money and also
get a voice make some money and also connect with brands who are trying to
connect with brands who are trying to
connect with brands who are trying to target college students so we’re going
target college students so we’re going
target college students so we’re going to talk entrepreneurship find some
to talk entrepreneurship find some
to talk entrepreneurship find some lessons learned and answer some of your
lessons learned and answer some of your
lessons learned and answer some of your questions Josh welcome aboard man thank
questions Josh welcome aboard man thank
questions Josh welcome aboard man thank you for sure you have me Evan so we had
you for sure you have me Evan so we had
you for sure you have me Evan so we had a little bit of a quick chat in the
a little bit of a quick chat in the
a little bit of a quick chat in the green room about what flock he was all
green room about what flock he was all
green room about what flock he was all about can you just give my audience a a
about can you just give my audience a a
about can you just give my audience a a deeper dive into what what you do yeah
deeper dive into what what you do yeah
deeper dive into what what you do yeah absolutely
absolutely
absolutely so flock you was created for college
so flock you was created for college
so flock you was created for college students be able to help out other
students be able to help out other
students be able to help out other college students dealing with life for
college students dealing with life for
college students dealing with life for the first time that they’re on their own
the first time that they’re on their own
the first time that they’re on their own a lot of students might be doing really
a lot of students might be doing really
a lot of students might be doing really well in the classroom they might be
well in the classroom they might be
well in the classroom they might be doing really well behind the books but
doing really well behind the books but
doing really well behind the books but when they’re when they’re really faced
when they’re when they’re really faced
when they’re when they’re really faced with their first social situations you
with their first social situations you
with their first social situations you know sometimes it doesn’t always go the
know sometimes it doesn’t always go the
know sometimes it doesn’t always go the best that they wanted to so the thesis
best that they wanted to so the thesis
best that they wanted to so the thesis behind flock you really was driven for
behind flock you really was driven for
behind flock you really was driven for have college students to be able to let
have college students to be able to let
have college students to be able to let other college students know they’re not
other college students know they’re not
other college students know they’re not alone and if they’re going to mess up
alone and if they’re going to mess up
alone and if they’re going to mess up they’re going to screw up in life and
they’re going to screw up in life and
they’re going to screw up in life and not only not only the mess ups and the
not only not only the mess ups and the
not only not only the mess ups and the screwed ups but also how to do things a
screwed ups but also how to do things a
screwed ups but also how to do things a little bit better so we have a content
little bit better so we have a content
little bit better so we have a content exchange we build a content exchange
exchange we build a content exchange
exchange we build a content exchange where we ingest and distribute content
where we ingest and distribute content
where we ingest and distribute content written by students for other students
written by students for other students
written by students for other students 100% of all the content is curated or
100% of all the content is curated or
100% of all the content is curated or created by college students we then take
created by college students we then take
created by college students we then take that we ingest it and we actually pay
that we ingest it and we actually pay
that we ingest it and we actually pay all of our content creators we have
all of our content creators we have
all of our content creators we have about 550 content creators throughout
about 550 content creators throughout
about 550 content creators throughout the u.s. we actually pay them for all
the u.s. we actually pay them for all
the u.s. we actually pay them for all the content that we consume we ingest
the content that we consume we ingest
the content that we consume we ingest probably about 50% of what we actually
probably about 50% of what we actually
probably about 50% of what we actually get submitted to us so we were pretty
get submitted to us so we were pretty
get submitted to us so we were pretty strict with the curation process we pay
strict with the curation process we pay
strict with the curation process we pay them based on how viral it goes and the
them based on how viral it goes and the
them based on how viral it goes and the shares that it gets and then we turn
shares that it gets and then we turn
shares that it gets and then we turn around and then go distribute all that
around and then go distribute all that
around and then go distribute all that content whether it’s through our
content whether it’s through our
content whether it’s through our syndicated partnership with people like
syndicated partnership with people like
syndicated partnership with people like The Huffington Post or whether so our
The Huffington Post or whether so our
The Huffington Post or whether so our own social channels and flock yourself
own social channels and flock yourself
own social channels and flock yourself or if it’s just on our own site so we
or if it’s just on our own site so we
or if it’s just on our own site so we really take the content and really want
really take the content and really want
really take the content and really want to put
to put
to put in front of the students wherever they
in front of the students wherever they
in front of the students wherever they are and then we work with brands that
are and then we work with brands that
are and then we work with brands that want to truly authentically connect with
want to truly authentically connect with
want to truly authentically connect with students and get in front of them in the
students and get in front of them in the
students and get in front of them in the right way instead of do no programmatic
right way instead of do no programmatic
right way instead of do no programmatic on this site we do no display everything
on this site we do no display everything
on this site we do no display everything is is done through whether it’s
is is done through whether it’s
is is done through whether it’s experiential whether it’s activations
experiential whether it’s activations
experiential whether it’s activations offline or online and really taking from
offline or online and really taking from
offline or online and really taking from a branded content perspective where 100%
a branded content perspective where 100%
a branded content perspective where 100% of it is done by the college students
of it is done by the college students
of it is done by the college students themselves cool that sounds like an
themselves cool that sounds like an
themselves cool that sounds like an interesting model and congrats on
interesting model and congrats on
interesting model and congrats on getting that thing off the ground and
getting that thing off the ground and
getting that thing off the ground and running it’s exciting my audience is
running it’s exciting my audience is
running it’s exciting my audience is mostly entrepreneurs people in business
mostly entrepreneurs people in business
mostly entrepreneurs people in business wanting to take it to the next step more
wanting to take it to the next step more
wanting to take it to the next step more people who are thinking of starting a
people who are thinking of starting a
people who are thinking of starting a business may have started a part time
business may have started a part time
business may have started a part time you’ve been at this game a long time
you’ve been at this game a long time
you’ve been at this game a long time Josh what what some of the nuggets of
Josh what what some of the nuggets of
Josh what what some of the nuggets of wisdom you would give them about being
wisdom you would give them about being
wisdom you would give them about being the success as an entrepreneur well I’ll
the success as an entrepreneur well I’ll
the success as an entrepreneur well I’ll tell you that probably 80% of your
tell you that probably 80% of your
tell you that probably 80% of your audience is either really skinny really
audience is either really skinny really
audience is either really skinny really heavy or have no toenails or have no
heavy or have no toenails or have no
heavy or have no toenails or have no have no fingernails left that’s usually
have no fingernails left that’s usually
have no fingernails left that’s usually that’s usually what’s happening with
that’s usually what’s happening with
that’s usually what’s happening with entrepreneurs listen the bottom line is
entrepreneurs listen the bottom line is
entrepreneurs listen the bottom line is I think the biggest and much you know
I think the biggest and much you know
I think the biggest and much you know true to like the way flock U is
true to like the way flock U is
true to like the way flock U is positioned is to let entrepreneurs know
positioned is to let entrepreneurs know
positioned is to let entrepreneurs know they’re not alone there’s going to be a
they’re not alone there’s going to be a
they’re not alone there’s going to be a tremendous amount of failures most
tremendous amount of failures most
tremendous amount of failures most people are going to have a lot of
people are going to have a lot of
people are going to have a lot of failures before they have that one
failures before they have that one
failures before they have that one success the key with an entrepreneur is
success the key with an entrepreneur is
success the key with an entrepreneur is really learning what caused a failure
really learning what caused a failure
really learning what caused a failure and what not and how not to cause it
and what not and how not to cause it
and what not and how not to cause it again and how not to have it again you
again and how not to have it again you
again and how not to have it again you know and the other thing that I’ve
know and the other thing that I’ve
know and the other thing that I’ve always recommended to people and it was
always recommended to people and it was
always recommended to people and it was something that I kind of learned the
something that I kind of learned the
something that I kind of learned the hard way as an entrepreneur you do not
hard way as an entrepreneur you do not
hard way as an entrepreneur you do not know everything virtually you know
know everything virtually you know
know everything virtually you know virtually nothing to be honest and
virtually nothing to be honest and
virtually nothing to be honest and you’re really learning on the fly so the
you’re really learning on the fly so the
you’re really learning on the fly so the key that I’ve always tried to recommend
key that I’ve always tried to recommend
key that I’ve always tried to recommend to anybody is talk to everybody whether
to anybody is talk to everybody whether
to anybody is talk to everybody whether they’re successful people whether
they’re successful people whether
they’re successful people whether they’re just friends whether they’re
they’re just friends whether they’re
they’re just friends whether they’re peers whether you’re friends friends try
peers whether you’re friends friends try
peers whether you’re friends friends try to talk to everybody because if you
to talk to everybody because if you
to talk to everybody because if you could just pick up one little tidbit
could just pick up one little tidbit
could just pick up one little tidbit from somebody at any given time it
from somebody at any given time it
from somebody at any given time it really is the best of all worlds for you
really is the best of all worlds for you
really is the best of all worlds for you and what it really does is it at the end
and what it really does is it at the end
and what it really does is it at the end of the day is because you don’t know
of the day is because you don’t know
of the day is because you don’t know everything the more that you can reach
everything the more that you can reach
everything the more that you can reach out the people that have been there and
out the people that have been there and
out the people that have been there and done that
done that
done that the smarter you’re going to be to where
the smarter you’re going to be to where
the smarter you’re going to be to where one day you could be in that position
one day you could be in that position
one day you could be in that position where people can ask you those questions
where people can ask you those questions
where people can ask you those questions so never get never get pushed back
so never get never get pushed back
so never get never get pushed back failures are going to happen and
failures are going to happen and
failures are going to happen and failures should happen and the reason
failures should happen and the reason
failures should happen and the reason why they should happen is because it’s
why they should happen is because it’s
why they should happen is because it’s the way you’re going to learn
the way you’re going to learn
the way you’re going to learn and it’s funny I’m looking at the the
and it’s funny I’m looking at the the
and it’s funny I’m looking at the the board behind you of all the successful
board behind you of all the successful
board behind you of all the successful businesspeople and every single one of
businesspeople and every single one of
businesspeople and every single one of them I’m sure will tell you about all
them I’m sure will tell you about all
them I’m sure will tell you about all the different failures that they’ve had
the different failures that they’ve had
the different failures that they’ve had and so it’s congruent with what
and so it’s congruent with what
and so it’s congruent with what everybody does there’s going to be
everybody does there’s going to be
everybody does there’s going to be failures before their successes stay
failures before their successes stay
failures before their successes stay firm say psyched and passionate about
firm say psyched and passionate about
firm say psyched and passionate about what you’re doing and listen is the key
what you’re doing and listen is the key
what you’re doing and listen is the key you have to listen everybody around you
you have to listen everybody around you
you have to listen everybody around you I love it so this is either some of the
I love it so this is either some of the
I love it so this is either some of the heroes behind me from famous
heroes behind me from famous
heroes behind me from famous entrepreneurs and the middle picture is
entrepreneurs and the middle picture is
entrepreneurs and the middle picture is actually my my parents and me when I’m
actually my my parents and me when I’m
actually my my parents and me when I’m like 7 or 8 years old I’m sure by the
like 7 or 8 years old I’m sure by the
like 7 or 8 years old I’m sure by the way I’m sure you’ve had some failures
way I’m sure you’ve had some failures
way I’m sure you’ve had some failures and all your luvin and you have a lot
and all your luvin and you have a lot
and all your luvin and you have a lot more hair back then so that’s why yeah
more hair back then so that’s why yeah
more hair back then so that’s why yeah you know hey listen I think you know
you know hey listen I think you know
you know hey listen I think you know still I got it I got to keep what I have
still I got it I got to keep what I have
still I got it I got to keep what I have absolutely do you have a do you have
absolutely do you have a do you have
absolutely do you have a do you have people you look up to do you have like
people you look up to do you have like
people you look up to do you have like the legends the entrepreneurs that you
the legends the entrepreneurs that you
the legends the entrepreneurs that you say these are the people that you know
say these are the people that you know
say these are the people that you know maybe I aspire to be here people that
maybe I aspire to be here people that
maybe I aspire to be here people that I’ve learned some important lessons from
I’ve learned some important lessons from
I’ve learned some important lessons from you know yeah I mean I think that that
you know yeah I mean I think that that
you know yeah I mean I think that that has definitely had some kind of impact
has definitely had some kind of impact
has definitely had some kind of impact on me you know there’s there’s a few
on me you know there’s there’s a few
on me you know there’s there’s a few different things you know you look at
different things you know you look at
different things you know you look at like the the proverbial Steve Jobs you
like the the proverbial Steve Jobs you
like the the proverbial Steve Jobs you know a guy that told him he couldn’t
know a guy that told him he couldn’t
know a guy that told him he couldn’t people told him he couldn’t do he
people told him he couldn’t do he
people told him he couldn’t do he couldn’t do he couldn’t do and he made
couldn’t do he couldn’t do and he made
couldn’t do he couldn’t do and he made his own map and he made his own
his own map and he made his own
his own map and he made his own direction and obviously everybody knows
direction and obviously everybody knows
direction and obviously everybody knows what he became so you know someone like
what he became so you know someone like
what he became so you know someone like him I’ve always operated in front from
him I’ve always operated in front from
him I’ve always operated in front from behind where where I I’ve always
behind where where I I’ve always
behind where where I I’ve always ingested and loved when people told me
ingested and loved when people told me
ingested and loved when people told me that I couldn’t do something because
that I couldn’t do something because
that I couldn’t do something because number one I love a good argument
number one I love a good argument
number one I love a good argument especially when it’s really spirited but
especially when it’s really spirited but
especially when it’s really spirited but at the end of the day I like being told
at the end of the day I like being told
at the end of the day I like being told that I can’t do something because it’s
that I can’t do something because it’s
that I can’t do something because it’s not that much more gratifying so yeah I
not that much more gratifying so yeah I
not that much more gratifying so yeah I think that you know from there from the
think that you know from there from the
think that you know from there from the proverbial Steve Jobs you know I go back
proverbial Steve Jobs you know I go back
proverbial Steve Jobs you know I go back to my father who really instilled in me
to my father who really instilled in me
to my father who really instilled in me about creating an unbelievable workplace
about creating an unbelievable workplace
about creating an unbelievable workplace for employees and and giving them an
for employees and and giving them an
for employees and and giving them an unbelievable home because most of the
unbelievable home because most of the
unbelievable home because most of the time they’re spending more time at the
time they’re spending more time at the
time they’re spending more time at the office and they are at their house and
office and they are at their house and
office and they are at their house and then my fellow peers you know whether
then my fellow peers you know whether
then my fellow peers you know whether it’s my partners in business whether
it’s my partners in business whether
it’s my partners in business whether it’s my partner in this particular
it’s my partner in this particular
it’s my partner in this particular business who’s had a lot of success and
business who’s had a lot of success and
business who’s had a lot of success and somebody that could just call up and
somebody that could just call up and
somebody that could just call up and really ask questions to so the people
really ask questions to so the people
really ask questions to so the people that I truly look up to in in the non
that I truly look up to in in the non
that I truly look up to in in the non we’ll call the non proverbial sense like
we’ll call the non proverbial sense like
we’ll call the non proverbial sense like the Steve Jobs are people that really
the Steve Jobs are people that really
the Steve Jobs are people that really can help me out with just some insights
can help me out with just some insights
can help me out with just some insights and anytime I ask questions are there to
and anytime I ask questions are there to
and anytime I ask questions are there to be able to help me there’s this great
be able to help me there’s this great
be able to help me there’s this great video I saw Sylvester Stallone doing an
video I saw Sylvester Stallone doing an
video I saw Sylvester Stallone doing an interview and he said I love no yes
interview and he said I love no yes
interview and he said I love no yes I love no and then the reporter said why
I love no and then the reporter said why
I love no and then the reporter said why do you love no
do you love no
do you love no because it really means yes III got to
because it really means yes III got to
because it really means yes III got to tell you though you know when you when
tell you though you know when you when
tell you though you know when you when you look at people like that or even
you look at people like that or even
you look at people like that or even like the Steve Jobs or you know it’s
like the Steve Jobs or you know it’s
like the Steve Jobs or you know it’s some reference and I’m giving you know
some reference and I’m giving you know
some reference and I’m giving you know usually the people that have had some
usually the people that have had some
usually the people that have had some kind of success or the people that say
kind of success or the people that say
kind of success or the people that say they love no Pope but when it’s
they love no Pope but when it’s
they love no Pope but when it’s happening
happening
happening it’s obviously not as fun and you have
it’s obviously not as fun and you have
it’s obviously not as fun and you have to learn how to take out of it and you
to learn how to take out of it and you
to learn how to take out of it and you have to understand why somebody is
have to understand why somebody is
have to understand why somebody is saying no you know it’s funny our CMO
saying no you know it’s funny our CMO
saying no you know it’s funny our CMO that we just hired in our company a guy
that we just hired in our company a guy
that we just hired in our company a guy named Mancha he was a guy that I tried
named Mancha he was a guy that I tried
named Mancha he was a guy that I tried calling in to over at his prior job a
calling in to over at his prior job a
calling in to over at his prior job a very very big brand Fortune 1000 brand
very very big brand Fortune 1000 brand
very very big brand Fortune 1000 brand and when they said no to me I just kept
and when they said no to me I just kept
and when they said no to me I just kept going back to them and saying why why
going back to them and saying why why
going back to them and saying why why tell me what I could be doing
tell me what I could be doing
tell me what I could be doing differently then not only did I learn
differently then not only did I learn
differently then not only did I learn how to get in there but also I was able
how to get in there but also I was able
how to get in there but also I was able to convince him to come work with our
to convince him to come work with our
to convince him to come work with our team so he’s now our CMO so but yeah yet
team so he’s now our CMO so but yeah yet
team so he’s now our CMO so but yeah yet when there’s a know you got to figure
when there’s a know you got to figure
when there’s a know you got to figure out why and then how to make it into a
out why and then how to make it into a
out why and then how to make it into a yes and again not just staying true to
yes and again not just staying true to
yes and again not just staying true to who you are and trying to be extremely
who you are and trying to be extremely
who you are and trying to be extremely passionate I love it so for those of you
passionate I love it so for those of you
passionate I love it so for those of you guys is tuning in we’ve got Josh who’s a
guys is tuning in we’ve got Josh who’s a
guys is tuning in we’ve got Josh who’s a serial entrepreneur and founder of flock
serial entrepreneur and founder of flock
serial entrepreneur and founder of flock you with us for the next 25 minutes or
you with us for the next 25 minutes or
you with us for the next 25 minutes or so if you have a question leave it in
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the live chat and we will get to them
the live chat and we will get to them there’s really a ton point in first one
there’s really a ton point in first one
there’s really a ton point in first one up why do you think most entrepreneurs
up why do you think most entrepreneurs
up why do you think most entrepreneurs fail in their ventures leaving I think I
fail in their ventures leaving I think I
fail in their ventures leaving I think I from my opinion it’s like I started off
from my opinion it’s like I started off
from my opinion it’s like I started off the interview by saying is I think
the interview by saying is I think
the interview by saying is I think people think they know it all you know
people think they know it all you know
people think they know it all you know and and one way to do it is and listen
and and one way to do it is and listen
and and one way to do it is and listen you’re going into a venture thinking
you’re going into a venture thinking
you’re going into a venture thinking that you know it all and there’s nothing
that you know it all and there’s nothing
that you know it all and there’s nothing wrong with that and that’s obviously a
wrong with that and that’s obviously a
wrong with that and that’s obviously a good status to have in your own mind but
good status to have in your own mind but
good status to have in your own mind but at the end of the day there’s a lot of
at the end of the day there’s a lot of
at the end of the day there’s a lot of people around you that are going to know
people around you that are going to know
people around you that are going to know a lot more if you ask questions and
a lot more if you ask questions and
a lot more if you ask questions and surround yourself with the right people
surround yourself with the right people
surround yourself with the right people those are truly the people they’re gonna
those are truly the people they’re gonna
those are truly the people they’re gonna be able to help you succeed so what I
be able to help you succeed so what I
be able to help you succeed so what I would say is I think listen there there
would say is I think listen there there
would say is I think listen there there is you know you know have enough funding
is you know you know have enough funding
is you know you know have enough funding you don’t have enough runway the idea
you don’t have enough runway the idea
you don’t have enough runway the idea that resonate there’s those kind of
that resonate there’s those kind of
that resonate there’s those kind of things but when you really dig deeper
things but when you really dig deeper
things but when you really dig deeper into it it’s really knowing yourself and
into it it’s really knowing yourself and
into it it’s really knowing yourself and knowing how to get a look at it you know
knowing how to get a look at it you know
knowing how to get a look at it you know I didn’t interview a couple weeks ago
I didn’t interview a couple weeks ago
I didn’t interview a couple weeks ago and it was how to get out of your what
and it was how to get out of your what
and it was how to get out of your what your own way to be able to be successful
your own way to be able to be successful
your own way to be able to be successful you have to get out of your own way and
you have to get out of your own way and
you have to get out of your own way and you have to be able to surround yourself
you have to be able to surround yourself
you have to be able to surround yourself with people that can help educate you
with people that can help educate you
with people that can help educate you and teach you so you can learn next door
and teach you so you can learn next door
and teach you so you can learn next door with you right next up is do you have an
with you right next up is do you have an
with you right next up is do you have an advice for how to navigate
advice for how to navigate
advice for how to navigate working with a business partner so you
working with a business partner so you
working with a business partner so you mention you have a partner what advice
mention you have a partner what advice
mention you have a partner what advice do you have on partnerships well I kind
do you have on partnerships well I kind
do you have on partnerships well I kind of learned the hard way right so you
of learned the hard way right so you
of learned the hard way right so you know I’ve been in partnerships before
know I’ve been in partnerships before
know I’ve been in partnerships before where it actually did not go as smooth
where it actually did not go as smooth
where it actually did not go as smooth and you know and it’s either cost me
and you know and it’s either cost me
and you know and it’s either cost me time or money or whatever you know I
time or money or whatever you know I
time or money or whatever you know I think the advice is number one
think the advice is number one
think the advice is number one understanding that just because you guys
understanding that just because you guys
understanding that just because you guys have been best friends just because you
have been best friends just because you
have been best friends just because you might be relatives or Nestle doesn’t
might be relatives or Nestle doesn’t
might be relatives or Nestle doesn’t necessarily mean that it’s gonna be
necessarily mean that it’s gonna be
necessarily mean that it’s gonna be translating the business there’s two
translating the business there’s two
translating the business there’s two things that I would suggest one is more
things that I would suggest one is more
things that I would suggest one is more of a tactical approach and then the
of a tactical approach and then the
of a tactical approach and then the other one is more of a legal approach
other one is more of a legal approach
other one is more of a legal approach the legal approach is make sure
the legal approach is make sure
the legal approach is make sure everything is documented documents
everything is documented documents
everything is documented documents happen for the reasons why lawyers make
happen for the reasons why lawyers make
happen for the reasons why lawyers make all the money right is that they there
all the money right is that they there
all the money right is that they there there’s going to be a problem god forbid
there’s going to be a problem god forbid
there’s going to be a problem god forbid there’s going to be something that
there’s going to be something that
there’s going to be something that happens that that that you guys can’t
happens that that that you guys can’t
happens that that that you guys can’t decide on together and you need
decide on together and you need
decide on together and you need something to be able to govern that and
something to be able to govern that and
something to be able to govern that and you need something be able to govern
you need something be able to govern
you need something be able to govern that to be able to say okay what is the
that to be able to say okay what is the
that to be able to say okay what is the right thing to do and how do we get out
right thing to do and how do we get out
right thing to do and how do we get out of this thing so number one you want to
of this thing so number one you want to
of this thing so number one you want to make sure it’s papered up the right way
make sure it’s papered up the right way
make sure it’s papered up the right way whether it’s through partnership
whether it’s through partnership
whether it’s through partnership agreements whether it’s through
agreements whether it’s through
agreements whether it’s through operating agreements or buy-sell
operating agreements or buy-sell
operating agreements or buy-sell agreements you want to make sure it’s
agreements you want to make sure it’s
agreements you want to make sure it’s really partnered up where I spend the
really partnered up where I spend the
really partnered up where I spend the money upfront to make sure that happens
money upfront to make sure that happens
money upfront to make sure that happens because it’s so important I’ll save you
because it’s so important I’ll save you
because it’s so important I’ll save you a ton a headache in the long run the
a ton a headache in the long run the
a ton a headache in the long run the more tactical approach is understand
more tactical approach is understand
more tactical approach is understand where your partner strength is and
where your partner strength is and
where your partner strength is and leverage it you know sometimes when you
leverage it you know sometimes when you
leverage it you know sometimes when you try to especially as an entrepreneur you
try to especially as an entrepreneur you
try to especially as an entrepreneur you try to do too much and you try to say I
try to do too much and you try to say I
try to do too much and you try to say I had this whole thing covered know your
had this whole thing covered know your
had this whole thing covered know your partner know know why they’re your
partner know know why they’re your
partner know know why they’re your partner know their strengths know their
partner know their strengths know their
partner know their strengths know their weaknesses so you don’t have to call
weaknesses so you don’t have to call
weaknesses so you don’t have to call them them for the weaknesses but you
them them for the weaknesses but you
them them for the weaknesses but you truly call them them for their strengths
truly call them them for their strengths
truly call them them for their strengths and you have to respect it you have to
and you have to respect it you have to
and you have to respect it you have to respect what their strengths are until
respect what their strengths are until
respect what their strengths are until such time that it may not come to
such time that it may not come to
such time that it may not come to fruition and then you have to come take
fruition and then you have to come take
fruition and then you have to come take a different path and maybe that’s where
a different path and maybe that’s where
a different path and maybe that’s where you know having this thing papered up
you know having this thing papered up
you know having this thing papered up appropriately would work but at the end
appropriately would work but at the end
appropriately would work but at the end of the day know your partner know what
of the day know your partner know what
of the day know your partner know what you’re getting involved with and know
you’re getting involved with and know
you’re getting involved with and know how to leverage their strengths so you
how to leverage their strengths so you
how to leverage their strengths so you mentioned you have a partner I flock to
mentioned you have a partner I flock to
mentioned you have a partner I flock to you how do you do I’m assuming it’s all
you how do you do I’m assuming it’s all
you how do you do I’m assuming it’s all legal and documented so that’s taken
legal and documented so that’s taken
legal and documented so that’s taken care of so how do you how do you balance
care of so how do you how do you balance
care of so how do you how do you balance like what do you good at what is your
like what do you good at what is your
like what do you good at what is your partner good at how do you guys balance
partner good at how do you guys balance
partner good at how do you guys balance that well I think it’s I think it you
that well I think it’s I think it you
that well I think it’s I think it you know I view everybody I mean we have
know I view everybody I mean we have
know I view everybody I mean we have about 20 employees in the company and we
about 20 employees in the company and we
about 20 employees in the company and we view everybody as partners and not
view everybody as partners and not
view everybody as partners and not saying that just just to save it
saying that just just to save it
saying that just just to save it I truly believe that everybody that
I truly believe that everybody that
I truly believe that everybody that works for our company has ownership in
works for our company has ownership in
works for our company has ownership in our business so it’s no different
our business so it’s no different
our business so it’s no different whether it’s my direct partner that I
whether it’s my direct partner that I
whether it’s my direct partner that I co-founded this business with or whether
co-founded this business with or whether
co-founded this business with or whether it’s any employee that’s here it
it’s any employee that’s here it
it’s any employee that’s here it is you want to leverage strengths you
is you want to leverage strengths you
is you want to leverage strengths you want to make sure that there’s really
want to make sure that there’s really
want to make sure that there’s really clear expectations you know and there
clear expectations you know and there
clear expectations you know and there can only be one CEO you know sometimes
can only be one CEO you know sometimes
can only be one CEO you know sometimes when there’s two CEOs it’s a little
when there’s two CEOs it’s a little
when there’s two CEOs it’s a little tough and you know I was given this role
tough and you know I was given this role
tough and you know I was given this role in this responsibility for a reason and
in this responsibility for a reason and
in this responsibility for a reason and you have to learn how to leverage and
you have to learn how to leverage and
you have to learn how to leverage and you have to learn how to pull it pull
you have to learn how to pull it pull
you have to learn how to pull it pull the different levers for different
the different levers for different
the different levers for different people its key is understanding
people its key is understanding
people its key is understanding strengths and understanding weaknesses
strengths and understanding weaknesses
strengths and understanding weaknesses you don’t want to sets up people up to
you don’t want to sets up people up to
you don’t want to sets up people up to not succeed you want to set people up to
not succeed you want to set people up to
not succeed you want to set people up to succeed so one way to do that is again
succeed so one way to do that is again
succeed so one way to do that is again spending the time to truly understand
spending the time to truly understand
spending the time to truly understand what the what the strengths and
what the what the strengths and
what the what the strengths and weaknesses are of the employees of your
weaknesses are of the employees of your
weaknesses are of the employees of your partners on whoever it is right and
partners on whoever it is right and
partners on whoever it is right and yourself and by the way you know I I
yourself and by the way you know I I
yourself and by the way you know I I always say I have a tremendous amount of
always say I have a tremendous amount of
always say I have a tremendous amount of weaknesses I’m you know I have a couple
weaknesses I’m you know I have a couple
weaknesses I’m you know I have a couple strengths that have helped drive me but
strengths that have helped drive me but
strengths that have helped drive me but I have a lot of weaknesses and I try to
I have a lot of weaknesses and I try to
I have a lot of weaknesses and I try to surround myself with people which I
surround myself with people which I
surround myself with people which I never always did or with which I haven’t
never always did or with which I haven’t
never always did or with which I haven’t always done I try to surround myself
always done I try to surround myself
always done I try to surround myself with people that really can complement
with people that really can complement
with people that really can complement my weaknesses
my weaknesses
my weaknesses so what do you think you’re really good
so what do you think you’re really good
so what do you think you’re really good at like you’re one of the best in the
at like you’re one of the best in the
at like you’re one of the best in the world at doing this and then what do you
world at doing this and then what do you
world at doing this and then what do you suck at that then you have to surround
suck at that then you have to surround
suck at that then you have to surround yourself with people to help you yeah
yourself with people to help you yeah
yourself with people to help you yeah I’m really good at pivoting and and
I’m really good at pivoting and and
I’m really good at pivoting and and understanding that if something’s not
understanding that if something’s not
understanding that if something’s not working we have to you know we have to
working we have to you know we have to
working we have to you know we have to shop and drive you know we have to it
shop and drive you know we have to it
shop and drive you know we have to it the bad part is is that sometimes I do
the bad part is is that sometimes I do
the bad part is is that sometimes I do it too fast and you know and I listen to
it too fast and you know and I listen to
it too fast and you know and I listen to my gut you know I’ve become very much a
my gut you know I’ve become very much a
my gut you know I’ve become very much a data guy and understanding data and how
data guy and understanding data and how
data guy and understanding data and how data drives a business but still there’s
data drives a business but still there’s
data drives a business but still there’s this inherent nature me to try to use my
this inherent nature me to try to use my
this inherent nature me to try to use my gut as much as I can and when I use my
gut as much as I can and when I use my
gut as much as I can and when I use my gut sometimes it’ll get me in trouble
gut sometimes it’ll get me in trouble
gut sometimes it’ll get me in trouble when the data doesn’t support it so I
when the data doesn’t support it so I
when the data doesn’t support it so I think you know the like I said the
think you know the like I said the
think you know the like I said the biggest strength is truly understanding
biggest strength is truly understanding
biggest strength is truly understanding what’s working what’s not working and
what’s working what’s not working and
what’s working what’s not working and capitalizing on what’s working and then
capitalizing on what’s working and then
capitalizing on what’s working and then shifting and driving away from the stuff
shifting and driving away from the stuff
shifting and driving away from the stuff that’s not but again that can also be a
that’s not but again that can also be a
that’s not but again that can also be a weakness because sometimes I do it too
weakness because sometimes I do it too
weakness because sometimes I do it too fast and sometimes I rely um I rely on
fast and sometimes I rely um I rely on
fast and sometimes I rely um I rely on my gut too much which is really where
my gut too much which is really where
my gut too much which is really where I’ve brought in to the organization
I’ve brought in to the organization
I’ve brought in to the organization people that are more mellow more
people that are more mellow more
people that are more mellow more level-headed more tactical in their
level-headed more tactical in their
level-headed more tactical in their approach and more operationally driven
approach and more operationally driven
approach and more operationally driven to where they could say you know what
to where they could say you know what
to where they could say you know what maybe we shouldn’t do this maybe we and
maybe we shouldn’t do this maybe we and
maybe we shouldn’t do this maybe we and really push us back in the right nature
really push us back in the right nature
really push us back in the right nature to make sure that I’m slowing down in my
to make sure that I’m slowing down in my
to make sure that I’m slowing down in my process next question coming in is how
process next question coming in is how
process next question coming in is how do you maintain focus I’m not sure I do
do you maintain focus I’m not sure I do
do you maintain focus I’m not sure I do yeah
yeah
yeah I’m a dancer yeah I’m not sure I do and
I’m a dancer yeah I’m not sure I do and
I’m a dancer yeah I’m not sure I do and again an entrepreneur and I’m sure the
again an entrepreneur and I’m sure the
again an entrepreneur and I’m sure the person asking this question can
person asking this question can
person asking this question can appreciate this is an entrepreneur will
appreciate this is an entrepreneur will
appreciate this is an entrepreneur will always jump at the next opportunity you
always jump at the next opportunity you
always jump at the next opportunity you know and you might be building a
know and you might be building a
know and you might be building a business and you see something that you
business and you see something that you
business and you see something that you might be court that might be corollary
might be court that might be corollary
might be court that might be corollary to what you’re doing and all of a sudden
to what you’re doing and all of a sudden
to what you’re doing and all of a sudden you grab it you know it’s easier said
you grab it you know it’s easier said
you grab it you know it’s easier said than done
than done
than done it really is probably one of the most
it really is probably one of the most
it really is probably one of the most difficult things to do and again the
difficult things to do and again the
difficult things to do and again the only way I would say that is make sure
only way I would say that is make sure
only way I would say that is make sure that you surround yourself whether it’s
that you surround yourself whether it’s
that you surround yourself whether it’s with a team or your partner that you’re
with a team or your partner that you’re
with a team or your partner that you’re doing this thing with make sure that
doing this thing with make sure that
doing this thing with make sure that that they’re the polar opposite of you
that they’re the polar opposite of you
that they’re the polar opposite of you because it will really help – it will
because it will really help – it will
because it will really help – it will really help drive what you’re or define
really help drive what you’re or define
really help drive what you’re or define what the weaknesses are to move away
what the weaknesses are to move away
what the weaknesses are to move away from it so I absolutely have a focused
from it so I absolutely have a focused
from it so I absolutely have a focused problem not not when I’m working on a
problem not not when I’m working on a
problem not not when I’m working on a project I actually have OCD so it
project I actually have OCD so it
project I actually have OCD so it actually helps me in that respect where
actually helps me in that respect where
actually helps me in that respect where I could stay really focus on a project
I could stay really focus on a project
I could stay really focus on a project but when opportunities come up I jump
but when opportunities come up I jump
but when opportunities come up I jump pretty fast you know it’s really having
pretty fast you know it’s really having
pretty fast you know it’s really having a good team around me that can help
a good team around me that can help
a good team around me that can help level that out and really be the
level that out and really be the
level that out and really be the naysayers of the bunch to really have me
naysayers of the bunch to really have me
naysayers of the bunch to really have me truly think about what needs to take
truly think about what needs to take
truly think about what needs to take place to make that decision do you try
place to make that decision do you try
place to make that decision do you try to stick to a regular routine schedule
to stick to a regular routine schedule
to stick to a regular routine schedule habits yeah yeah and again part of that
habits yeah yeah and again part of that
habits yeah yeah and again part of that just the way I’m wired you know I’m at
just the way I’m wired you know I’m at
just the way I’m wired you know I’m at the same time every morning I generally
the same time every morning I generally
the same time every morning I generally go to sleep the same time every night
go to sleep the same time every night
go to sleep the same time every night most of the time yeah I mean I the same
most of the time yeah I mean I the same
most of the time yeah I mean I the same process I my wife is very understanding
process I my wife is very understanding
process I my wife is very understanding of how I am so she makes sure that that
of how I am so she makes sure that that
of how I am so she makes sure that that uh she makes sure that I’m set up to
uh she makes sure that I’m set up to
uh she makes sure that I’m set up to succeed whether it’s at the house and I
succeed whether it’s at the house and I
succeed whether it’s at the house and I have the same assistant that I’ve had
have the same assistant that I’ve had
have the same assistant that I’ve had for 21 years so she makes sure I’m set
for 21 years so she makes sure I’m set
for 21 years so she makes sure I’m set up to succeed outside of the house and
up to succeed outside of the house and
up to succeed outside of the house and it goes back to and I know I continue to
it goes back to and I know I continue to
it goes back to and I know I continue to say that’s just having a really good
say that’s just having a really good
say that’s just having a really good team you know and early stage
team you know and early stage
team you know and early stage entrepreneurs don’t always have that
entrepreneurs don’t always have that
entrepreneurs don’t always have that Avenue whether it’s a wife at home they
Avenue whether it’s a wife at home they
Avenue whether it’s a wife at home they may not be married or or maybe it’s not
may not be married or or maybe it’s not
may not be married or or maybe it’s not having that assistant but it’s truly
having that assistant but it’s truly
having that assistant but it’s truly surrounding yourself with people that
surrounding yourself with people that
surrounding yourself with people that understand how to have it how to keep
understand how to have it how to keep
understand how to have it how to keep you in a really good process so to
you in a really good process so to
you in a really good process so to answer your question yeah I have pretty
answer your question yeah I have pretty
answer your question yeah I have pretty much the same process and that’s what
much the same process and that’s what
much the same process and that’s what drives me and sometimes when I figure
drives me and sometimes when I figure
drives me and sometimes when I figure out that process may not be working you
out that process may not be working you
out that process may not be working you have to be smart enough to be able to
have to be smart enough to be able to
have to be smart enough to be able to shift and move into a different process
shift and move into a different process
shift and move into a different process you’re building a home team as well as
you’re building a home team as well as
you’re building a home team as well as an office team yeah exactly
an office team yeah exactly
an office team yeah exactly listen my wife definitely definitely
listen my wife definitely definitely
listen my wife definitely definitely keeps me grounded definitely as a
keeps me grounded definitely as a
keeps me grounded definitely as a phenomenal wife my two little girls 12
phenomenal wife my two little girls 12
phenomenal wife my two little girls 12 and 10 so you know you do at the end of
and 10 so you know you do at the end of
and 10 so you know you do at the end of the day as you get older you start to do
the day as you get older you start to do
the day as you get older you start to do it all for them so love it
it all for them so love it
it all for them so love it next question what
next question what
next question what is your inspiration for starting flock
is your inspiration for starting flock
is your inspiration for starting flock you I was coming off of an exit of my
you I was coming off of an exit of my
you I was coming off of an exit of my prior business which was in the
prior business which was in the
prior business which was in the financial wellness and e-commerce space
financial wellness and e-commerce space
financial wellness and e-commerce space and I started doing a lot of reading
and I started doing a lot of reading
and I started doing a lot of reading about Millennials and about the college
about Millennials and about the college
about Millennials and about the college age demographic and there was a couple
age demographic and there was a couple
age demographic and there was a couple things that I saw that I saw pretty
things that I saw that I saw pretty
things that I saw that I saw pretty pretty even to what I’ve known in the
pretty even to what I’ve known in the
pretty even to what I’ve known in the past is number one is that college
past is number one is that college
past is number one is that college students they want to they want to
students they want to they want to
students they want to they want to understand social skills they want to
understand social skills they want to
understand social skills they want to understand life especially Millennials
understand life especially Millennials
understand life especially Millennials they want to really get a fair chance
they want to really get a fair chance
they want to really get a fair chance but because of the generation that
but because of the generation that
but because of the generation that they’re in a lot of people are really
they’re in a lot of people are really
they’re in a lot of people are really pointing them into the wrong corner and
pointing them into the wrong corner and
pointing them into the wrong corner and and have all these adjectives for them
and have all these adjectives for them
and have all these adjectives for them that really make no sense I mean I’ve
that really make no sense I mean I’ve
that really make no sense I mean I’ve worked with a tremendous many
worked with a tremendous many
worked with a tremendous many Millennials in my life and actually
Millennials in my life and actually
Millennials in my life and actually there’s so much smarter than me so I you
there’s so much smarter than me so I you
there’s so much smarter than me so I you know I kind of take it to heart and I
know I kind of take it to heart and I
know I kind of take it to heart and I say to myself from a mission perspective
say to myself from a mission perspective
say to myself from a mission perspective here’s an opportunity to be able to get
here’s an opportunity to be able to get
here’s an opportunity to be able to get in and truly help out this particular
in and truly help out this particular
in and truly help out this particular demographic on really dealing with real
demographic on really dealing with real
demographic on really dealing with real life so and there was a like I said
life so and there was a like I said
life so and there was a like I said we’ve pivoted a lot so you know we
we’ve pivoted a lot so you know we
we’ve pivoted a lot so you know we started off as an e-commerce platform
started off as an e-commerce platform
started off as an e-commerce platform which was going to guarantee the
which was going to guarantee the
which was going to guarantee the cheapest pricing we were going to high
cheapest pricing we were going to high
cheapest pricing we were going to high procure a product just for the
procure a product just for the
procure a product just for the college-age demo and then when we know
college-age demo and then when we know
college-age demo and then when we know that when the rise of jet comm came
that when the rise of jet comm came
that when the rise of jet comm came around then I woke up in that proverbial
around then I woke up in that proverbial
around then I woke up in that proverbial sweat one day and said I gotta be nuts
sweat one day and said I gotta be nuts
sweat one day and said I gotta be nuts to want to compete up against the
to want to compete up against the
to want to compete up against the Amazons and everybody but we really
Amazons and everybody but we really
Amazons and everybody but we really figured out a way to make her my partner
figured out a way to make her my partner
figured out a way to make her my partner so we said that so the inspiration truly
so we said that so the inspiration truly
so we said that so the inspiration truly was able to help out college students
was able to help out college students
was able to help out college students and be able to and they’re not going to
and be able to and they’re not going to
and be able to and they’re not going to listen to me I’m a 39 year old guy
listen to me I’m a 39 year old guy
listen to me I’m a 39 year old guy they’re not gonna listen to their
they’re not gonna listen to their
they’re not gonna listen to their parents because of the rebellious piece
parents because of the rebellious piece
parents because of the rebellious piece but they’re certainly going to listen to
but they’re certainly going to listen to
but they’re certainly going to listen to their friends especially this particular
their friends especially this particular
their friends especially this particular age demographic so that was where we had
age demographic so that was where we had
age demographic so that was where we had the idea to be able to develop this
the idea to be able to develop this
the idea to be able to develop this great content exchange where college
great content exchange where college
great content exchange where college students can help out other college
students can help out other college
students can help out other college students via content and get paid for it
students via content and get paid for it
students via content and get paid for it and get paid for it as well so everybody
and get paid for it as well so everybody
and get paid for it as well so everybody wins a similar kind of question where
wins a similar kind of question where
wins a similar kind of question where that’s going to earlier that question
that’s going to earlier that question
that’s going to earlier that question coming in is what was the trigger for
coming in is what was the trigger for
coming in is what was the trigger for you to become an entrepreneur since all
you to become an entrepreneur since all
you to become an entrepreneur since all your bio nine years old
your bio nine years old
your bio nine years old yeah certain up so how many of you can
yeah certain up so how many of you can
yeah certain up so how many of you can remember back then but was the trigger
remember back then but was the trigger
remember back then but was the trigger to become an entrepreneur I think to
to become an entrepreneur I think to
to become an entrepreneur I think to think my father was a business guy so he
think my father was a business guy so he
think my father was a business guy so he started me really early in business you
started me really early in business you
started me really early in business you know whether it was taking me to
know whether it was taking me to
know whether it was taking me to meetings or whatever it is but also you
meetings or whatever it is but also you
meetings or whatever it is but also you know I think I never liked working for
know I think I never liked working for
know I think I never liked working for anybody can never be I think I never
anybody can never be I think I never
anybody can never be I think I never liked being told what to do
liked being told what to do
liked being told what to do and you know when when you have that
and you know when when you have that
and you know when when you have that kind of attitude and you want to kind of
kind of attitude and you want to kind of
kind of attitude and you want to kind of forge your own way it really triggers
forge your own way it really triggers
forge your own way it really triggers something in you and and even though
something in you and and even though
something in you and and even though some people may be like that but they
some people may be like that but they
some people may be like that but they may not have an entrepreneurial bug
may not have an entrepreneurial bug
may not have an entrepreneurial bug there was something about there was
there was something about there was
there was something about there was something and I don’t remember the
something and I don’t remember the
something and I don’t remember the earliest stages of it but there was
earliest stages of it but there was
earliest stages of it but there was something about being able to look at
something about being able to look at
something about being able to look at something to create something really
something to create something really
something to create something really special that I truly enjoyed and you
special that I truly enjoyed and you
special that I truly enjoyed and you know called ego call a drive call it
know called ego call a drive call it
know called ego call a drive call it passion whenever you want to me it’s
passion whenever you want to me it’s
passion whenever you want to me it’s being able to look at something and say
being able to look at something and say
being able to look at something and say wow there’s this unbelievable white
wow there’s this unbelievable white
wow there’s this unbelievable white space here we have to figure out a way
space here we have to figure out a way
space here we have to figure out a way to be able to capitalize on it and then
to be able to capitalize on it and then
to be able to capitalize on it and then the hard part is the journey right it’s
the hard part is the journey right it’s
the hard part is the journey right it’s okay you set you set your mile marker
okay you set you set your mile marker
okay you set you set your mile marker out there now how do you go accomplish
out there now how do you go accomplish
out there now how do you go accomplish it so I don’t remember the earliest
it so I don’t remember the earliest
it so I don’t remember the earliest stages but I could tell you it’s B it
stages but I could tell you it’s B it
stages but I could tell you it’s B it takes a lot to become an entrepreneur
takes a lot to become an entrepreneur
takes a lot to become an entrepreneur it’s sweat it sweat blood tears you’re
it’s sweat it sweat blood tears you’re
it’s sweat it sweat blood tears you’re going to meet a lot of friends you’re
going to meet a lot of friends you’re
going to meet a lot of friends you’re gonna make a lot of enemies whatever it
gonna make a lot of enemies whatever it
gonna make a lot of enemies whatever it is it’s very very tough and people think
is it’s very very tough and people think
is it’s very very tough and people think a lot of times they’re entrepreneurs
a lot of times they’re entrepreneurs
a lot of times they’re entrepreneurs until they really get into the weeds and
until they really get into the weeds and
until they really get into the weeds and until they get into battle and then they
until they get into battle and then they
until they get into battle and then they truly understand you know what this may
truly understand you know what this may
truly understand you know what this may not be for me but I give everybody
not be for me but I give everybody
not be for me but I give everybody credit for trying something and anytime
credit for trying something and anytime
credit for trying something and anytime you can go out on your own to truly try
you can go out on your own to truly try
you can go out on your own to truly try something it’s very very important that
something it’s very very important that
something it’s very very important that you understand what you’re doing and how
you understand what you’re doing and how
you understand what you’re doing and how you’re doing it and the more you can
you’re doing it and the more you can
you’re doing it and the more you can learn through every stage whether it’s
learn through every stage whether it’s
learn through every stage whether it’s failures or successes
failures or successes
failures or successes it drives you that much more for your
it drives you that much more for your
it drives you that much more for your for your next initiative did you did you
for your next initiative did you did you
for your next initiative did you did you always think you’re going to be an
always think you’re going to be an
always think you’re going to be an entrepreneur like when you’re in high
entrepreneur like when you’re in high
entrepreneur like when you’re in high school or college did you ever have
school or college did you ever have
school or college did you ever have aspirations am I gonna I’m gonna be a
aspirations am I gonna I’m gonna be a
aspirations am I gonna I’m gonna be a banker I’m gonna be a cattle nor gonna
banker I’m gonna be a cattle nor gonna
banker I’m gonna be a cattle nor gonna get a job it was always like you know
get a job it was always like you know
get a job it was always like you know this stuff is not for me I got to do my
this stuff is not for me I got to do my
this stuff is not for me I got to do my own thing yeah I didn’t go to college
own thing yeah I didn’t go to college
own thing yeah I didn’t go to college and partially was because I knew that if
and partially was because I knew that if
and partially was because I knew that if I went to college it would kind of delay
I went to college it would kind of delay
I went to college it would kind of delay me for years from really what I wanted
me for years from really what I wanted
me for years from really what I wanted to do and you know I don’t pooh-pooh
to do and you know I don’t pooh-pooh
to do and you know I don’t pooh-pooh college at all I think boot I think
college at all I think boot I think
college at all I think boot I think college is phenomenal I think everybody
college is phenomenal I think everybody
college is phenomenal I think everybody should have the opportunity to go as
should have the opportunity to go as
should have the opportunity to go as long as they can for me it just wasn’t
long as they can for me it just wasn’t
long as they can for me it just wasn’t right for me I wasn’t to me I’d rather
right for me I wasn’t to me I’d rather
right for me I wasn’t to me I’d rather be out there hustling or figuring out a
be out there hustling or figuring out a
be out there hustling or figuring out a way to go change something or make money
way to go change something or make money
way to go change something or make money as opposed to sitting in the classroom
as opposed to sitting in the classroom
as opposed to sitting in the classroom and I always took the approach that
and I always took the approach that
and I always took the approach that because I wanted to be an entrepreneur
because I wanted to be an entrepreneur
because I wanted to be an entrepreneur because I wanted to work for myself I
because I wanted to work for myself I
because I wanted to work for myself I wanted to get four years ahead of where
wanted to get four years ahead of where
wanted to get four years ahead of where everybody else was but that said I still
everybody else was but that said I still
everybody else was but that said I still live the college life I go to visit all
live the college life I go to visit all
live the college life I go to visit all my friends and all the rest of that
my friends and all the rest of that
my friends and all the rest of that stuff so I had the best of all worlds it
stuff so I had the best of all worlds it
stuff so I had the best of all worlds it was great
was great
was great right and you said on a website to help
right and you said on a website to help
right and you said on a website to help college students there too by the way
college students there too by the way
college students there too by the way that’s looks like
that’s looks like
that’s looks like I pride myself on cars I never had a
I pride myself on cars I never had a
I pride myself on cars I never had a social media account and I never went to
social media account and I never went to
social media account and I never went to college
college
college nice little medium this is the college
nice little medium this is the college
nice little medium this is the college space is phenomenal that’s an
space is phenomenal that’s an
space is phenomenal that’s an entrepreneur’s yeah exactly
entrepreneur’s yeah exactly
entrepreneur’s yeah exactly uh okay next question what’s the biggest
uh okay next question what’s the biggest
uh okay next question what’s the biggest obstacle you faced as an entrepreneur at
obstacle you faced as an entrepreneur at
obstacle you faced as an entrepreneur at you know getting yourself getting out of
you know getting yourself getting out of
you know getting yourself getting out of your own way
your own way
your own way biggest obstacle a lot of times is again
biggest obstacle a lot of times is again
biggest obstacle a lot of times is again understanding what your strengths and I
understanding what your strengths and I
understanding what your strengths and I know we continue to talk about it seems
know we continue to talk about it seems
know we continue to talk about it seems like the theme of what we’re discussing
like the theme of what we’re discussing
like the theme of what we’re discussing but it’s really understanding what
but it’s really understanding what
but it’s really understanding what you’re smart at which you’re not so
you’re smart at which you’re not so
you’re smart at which you’re not so smart at what you have to learn and I
smart at what you have to learn and I
smart at what you have to learn and I think the biggest obstacle is always
think the biggest obstacle is always
think the biggest obstacle is always going to be yourself no matter how
going to be yourself no matter how
going to be yourself no matter how successful you are no matter what you do
successful you are no matter what you do
successful you are no matter what you do it’s always going to be yourself because
it’s always going to be yourself because
it’s always going to be yourself because you know even through failures there’s
you know even through failures there’s
you know even through failures there’s always that edge there’s own
always that edge there’s own
always that edge there’s own entrepreneur always has a chip on their
entrepreneur always has a chip on their
entrepreneur always has a chip on their shoulders as I like to do it that much
shoulders as I like to do it that much
shoulders as I like to do it that much better
better
better the more you can you can focus on
the more you can you can focus on
the more you can you can focus on the people around you and the smart
the people around you and the smart
the people around you and the smart people around your being able to ask the
people around your being able to ask the
people around your being able to ask the right questions I think it’s a UH you
right questions I think it’s a UH you
right questions I think it’s a UH you know I think that’s what it comes down
know I think that’s what it comes down
know I think that’s what it comes down to I think that’s truly what it comes
to I think that’s truly what it comes
to I think that’s truly what it comes down to is just understanding yourself
down to is just understanding yourself
down to is just understanding yourself and understand the more you understand
and understand the more you understand
and understand the more you understand yourself the more there you’re going to
yourself the more there you’re going to
yourself the more there you’re going to be able to get out of your own way do
be able to get out of your own way do
be able to get out of your own way do you have advice and how to do that how
you have advice and how to do that how
you have advice and how to do that how do you figure out how to understand
do you figure out how to understand
do you figure out how to understand yourself no I really don’t I wish I did
yourself no I really don’t I wish I did
yourself no I really don’t I wish I did I you know I keep going back to the
I you know I keep going back to the
I you know I keep going back to the biggest thing is just talking to
biggest thing is just talking to
biggest thing is just talking to everybody you know my first career my
everybody you know my first career my
everybody you know my first career my first business that I was in I never
first business that I was in I never
first business that I was in I never networked I never spoke to anybody I
networked I never spoke to anybody I
networked I never spoke to anybody I always had the attitude and said you
always had the attitude and said you
always had the attitude and said you know what they’re going to come to me
know what they’re going to come to me
know what they’re going to come to me and talk to me and network with me and
and talk to me and network with me and
and talk to me and network with me and and then when I exited that business I
and then when I exited that business I
and then when I exited that business I said to myself wow there’s so many other
said to myself wow there’s so many other
said to myself wow there’s so many other smarter people out here than May and and
smarter people out here than May and and
smarter people out here than May and and what I’ve learned and as soon as that
what I’ve learned and as soon as that
what I’ve learned and as soon as that trigger the first time first networking
trigger the first time first networking
trigger the first time first networking event that I went to and I really saw
event that I went to and I really saw
event that I went to and I really saw the kind of people that I was meeting it
the kind of people that I was meeting it
the kind of people that I was meeting it really was unbelievable it really was
really was unbelievable it really was
really was unbelievable it really was unbelievable to the the eye-opening
unbelievable to the the eye-opening
unbelievable to the the eye-opening experience to understand the knowledge
experience to understand the knowledge
experience to understand the knowledge that is out there and people are willing
that is out there and people are willing
that is out there and people are willing to give it to you you know you might be
to give it to you you know you might be
to give it to you you know you might be intimidated to go ask somebody or talk
intimidated to go ask somebody or talk
intimidated to go ask somebody or talk to people but they’re willing to give it
to people but they’re willing to give it
to people but they’re willing to give it to you so to me it’s really getting out
to you so to me it’s really getting out
to you so to me it’s really getting out there and just really surrounding
there and just really surrounding
there and just really surrounding yourself and asking the right questions
yourself and asking the right questions
yourself and asking the right questions is there a moment that you kind of
is there a moment that you kind of
is there a moment that you kind of realize that like everyone’s coming to
realize that like everyone’s coming to
realize that like everyone’s coming to me you gotta come to me I’m a successful
me you gotta come to me I’m a successful
me you gotta come to me I’m a successful entrepreneur I know better than
entrepreneur I know better than
entrepreneur I know better than everybody else and then to make this
everybody else and then to make this
everybody else and then to make this shift like I don’t know anything
shift like I don’t know anything
shift like I don’t know anything I have to go through that yeah I mean I
I have to go through that yeah I mean I
I have to go through that yeah I mean I think it was the first exit that I had
think it was the first exit that I had
think it was the first exit that I had and uh you know it wasn’t the most
and uh you know it wasn’t the most
and uh you know it wasn’t the most successful exit it’s something that you
successful exit it’s something that you
successful exit it’s something that you know we had a great business we had a
know we had a great business we had a
know we had a great business we had a hell of a business and there were
hell of a business and there were
hell of a business and there were certain things that just went against us
certain things that just went against us
certain things that just went against us then unfortunately we had a pivot and
then unfortunately we had a pivot and
then unfortunately we had a pivot and and we we ended up moving in different
and we we ended up moving in different
and we we ended up moving in different directions but as soon as that happened
directions but as soon as that happened
directions but as soon as that happened I truly tried to understand myself what
I truly tried to understand myself what
I truly tried to understand myself what what did I do to cause this and what
what did I do to cause this and what
what did I do to cause this and what could I do differently and in that
could I do differently and in that
could I do differently and in that search one of the things I came out with
search one of the things I came out with
search one of the things I came out with I just said I have to go out there start
I just said I have to go out there start
I just said I have to go out there start talking to other people whether it’s on
talking to other people whether it’s on
talking to other people whether it’s on the other people that have been in the
the other people that have been in the
the other people that have been in the situation or other people that could
situation or other people that could
situation or other people that could teach me because remember you know I had
teach me because remember you know I had
teach me because remember you know I had done 1.0 for 16 years now I had to
done 1.0 for 16 years now I had to
done 1.0 for 16 years now I had to figure out what 2.0 was going to be and
figure out what 2.0 was going to be and
figure out what 2.0 was going to be and that was the other thing was getting out
that was the other thing was getting out
that was the other thing was getting out there and trying to figure out what my
there and trying to figure out what my
there and trying to figure out what my next stage was going to be so I think
next stage was going to be so I think
next stage was going to be so I think the biggest issue for me was being able
the biggest issue for me was being able
the biggest issue for me was being able to step out of where I’ve been for 16
to step out of where I’ve been for 16
to step out of where I’ve been for 16 years look at the successes look at the
years look at the successes look at the
years look at the successes look at the failures look at all those things and
failures look at all those things and
failures look at all those things and say well something needs to change and
say well something needs to change and
say well something needs to change and to get out there so it happened probably
to get out there so it happened probably
to get out there so it happened probably about six years ago seven years ago hmm
about six years ago seven years ago hmm
about six years ago seven years ago hmm reading lots of great feedback in the
reading lots of great feedback in the
reading lots of great feedback in the live chat hello everybody it’s great
live chat hello everybody it’s great
live chat hello everybody it’s great having you here Thank You Josh you truly
having you here Thank You Josh you truly
having you here Thank You Josh you truly appreciate you so this is great
appreciate you so this is great
appreciate you so this is great um the next question is about failure
um the next question is about failure
um the next question is about failure and someone’s asking should you get
and someone’s asking should you get
and someone’s asking should you get angry at your failures and use that as
angry at your failures and use that as
angry at your failures and use that as fuel to do better or should you just be
fuel to do better or should you just be
fuel to do better or should you just be cool about your failures and move on to
cool about your failures and move on to
cool about your failures and move on to something else well I think listen yeah
something else well I think listen yeah
something else well I think listen yeah you could say you could say don’t get
you could say you could say don’t get
you could say you could say don’t get angry of course you’re gonna get angry
angry of course you’re gonna get angry
angry of course you’re gonna get angry for passionate you’re going to get angry
for passionate you’re going to get angry
for passionate you’re going to get angry but I think the key is channeling that
but I think the key is channeling that
but I think the key is channeling that anger right you know in and when you
anger right you know in and when you
anger right you know in and when you start to understand that’s the Kin if I
start to understand that’s the Kin if I
start to understand that’s the Kin if I can get a point if I can get across one
can get a point if I can get across one
can get a point if I can get across one point to your audience
point to your audience
point to your audience it’s got to be understand yourself and I
it’s got to be understand yourself and I
it’s got to be understand yourself and I know I keep saying that so when you have
know I keep saying that so when you have
know I keep saying that so when you have failures understand what caused that
failures understand what caused that
failures understand what caused that failure understand what caused a fight
failure understand what caused a fight
failure understand what caused a fight and don’t be mad at yourself because
and don’t be mad at yourself because
and don’t be mad at yourself because you’re human right understand how to
you’re human right understand how to
you’re human right understand how to twist it now to change it to make it not
twist it now to change it to make it not
twist it now to change it to make it not happen again
happen again
happen again that’s the key that happens a second
that’s the key that happens a second
that’s the key that happens a second time that’s when you could be mad at
time that’s when you could be mad at
time that’s when you could be mad at yourself so I wouldn’t use anger to
yourself so I wouldn’t use anger to
yourself so I wouldn’t use anger to drive to drive success I will just use
drive to drive success I will just use
drive to drive success I will just use the lessons that you’re learning from it
the lessons that you’re learning from it
the lessons that you’re learning from it because if you stay angry then you can’t
because if you stay angry then you can’t
because if you stay angry then you can’t be successful because your head as an
be successful because your head as an
be successful because your head as an entrepreneur and as someone has a
entrepreneur and as someone has a
entrepreneur and as someone has a complete vision on where you need to get
complete vision on where you need to get
complete vision on where you need to get to your head needs to be clear you need
to your head needs to be clear you need
to your head needs to be clear you need a head needs
a head needs
a head needs be clear at all obstacles and when that
be clear at all obstacles and when that
be clear at all obstacles and when that thing gets in front of you got to be
thing gets in front of you got to be
thing gets in front of you got to be able to figure out a way to hop over to
able to figure out a way to hop over to
able to figure out a way to hop over to run through it well fear or anger or
run through it well fear or anger or
run through it well fear or anger or whatever it is is just that you got to
whatever it is is just that you got to
whatever it is is just that you got to figure out a way okay soap for 24 hours
figure out a way okay soap for 24 hours
figure out a way okay soap for 24 hours 48 hours and then get the hell out of
48 hours and then get the hell out of
48 hours and then get the hell out of your own way and start moving forward
your own way and start moving forward
your own way and start moving forward again mmm you mentioned fear it’s
again mmm you mentioned fear it’s
again mmm you mentioned fear it’s actually the next question that comes up
actually the next question that comes up
actually the next question that comes up so it’s great um basically this question
so it’s great um basically this question
so it’s great um basically this question from Yosh asking about things that you
from Yosh asking about things that you
from Yosh asking about things that you have feared and how do you get over and
have feared and how do you get over and
have feared and how do you get over and how do you drive forward to accomplish
how do you drive forward to accomplish
how do you drive forward to accomplish that goal you set when you’re afraid of
that goal you set when you’re afraid of
that goal you set when you’re afraid of doing the actions that you need to do
doing the actions that you need to do
doing the actions that you need to do yeah I mean I think fear I brought up
yeah I mean I think fear I brought up
yeah I mean I think fear I brought up fear because I think it’s very relevant
fear because I think it’s very relevant
fear because I think it’s very relevant I think it’s you know as an entrepreneur
I think it’s you know as an entrepreneur
I think it’s you know as an entrepreneur there is a tremendous amount of fear for
there is a tremendous amount of fear for
there is a tremendous amount of fear for me the number one fear is failing um you
me the number one fear is failing um you
me the number one fear is failing um you know you have confidence in yourself and
know you have confidence in yourself and
know you have confidence in yourself and you say to yourself if God forbid
you say to yourself if God forbid
you say to yourself if God forbid something happens your rebound but it’s
something happens your rebound but it’s
something happens your rebound but it’s also the people and the team that you
also the people and the team that you
also the people and the team that you come along that they come along with you
come along that they come along with you
come along that they come along with you you know we have 20 people here I’ve had
you know we have 20 people here I’ve had
you know we have 20 people here I’ve had I’ve had upwards of thousands of
I’ve had upwards of thousands of
I’ve had upwards of thousands of employees and you know you’re
employees and you know you’re
employees and you know you’re responsible for those people and you’re
responsible for those people and you’re
responsible for those people and you’re responsible to drive a company in
responsible to drive a company in
responsible to drive a company in direction to where you can put food on
direction to where you can put food on
direction to where you can put food on their plate and you can always have that
their plate and you can always have that
their plate and you can always have that paycheck for them so I think fear is
paycheck for them so I think fear is
paycheck for them so I think fear is actually something that’s actually a
actually something that’s actually a
actually something that’s actually a very positive thing if you know how to
very positive thing if you know how to
very positive thing if you know how to channel that fear and know how to make
channel that fear and know how to make
channel that fear and know how to make it always put that as a goal in front of
it always put that as a goal in front of
it always put that as a goal in front of you that you don’t want to fail then
you that you don’t want to fail then
you that you don’t want to fail then you’ll be able to slow down and figure
you’ll be able to slow down and figure
you’ll be able to slow down and figure out one of the things that could get you
out one of the things that could get you
out one of the things that could get you to fail and be able to slow down and ask
to fail and be able to slow down and ask
to fail and be able to slow down and ask the proper questions and move in the
the proper questions and move in the
the proper questions and move in the right pivot in the right direction to be
right pivot in the right direction to be
right pivot in the right direction to be able to get you to that place so I think
able to get you to that place so I think
able to get you to that place so I think fear is not a Beth and I actually think
fear is not a Beth and I actually think
fear is not a Beth and I actually think fear is actually a very good thing
fear is actually a very good thing
fear is actually a very good thing people that don’t have fear those are
people that don’t have fear those are
people that don’t have fear those are the people that will die early you know
the people that will die early you know
the people that will die early you know or do something probably very stupid
or do something probably very stupid
or do something probably very stupid fear is actually a very positive thing
fear is actually a very positive thing
fear is actually a very positive thing hmm how do you know that you’re ready to
hmm how do you know that you’re ready to
hmm how do you know that you’re ready to start as an entrepreneur you never do I
start as an entrepreneur you never do I
start as an entrepreneur you never do I think you just got to do it and again
think you just got to do it and again
think you just got to do it and again you know it’s easy said than done it’s
you know it’s easy said than done it’s
you know it’s easy said than done it’s easy for me to say because I’ve done it
easy for me to say because I’ve done it
easy for me to say because I’ve done it and it’s easy for me because I I’m wired
and it’s easy for me because I I’m wired
and it’s easy for me because I I’m wired that way I don’t think it’s for
that way I don’t think it’s for
that way I don’t think it’s for everybody
everybody
everybody I really don’t and I’ll tell you that
I really don’t and I’ll tell you that
I really don’t and I’ll tell you that you know the person whoever it is that’s
you know the person whoever it is that’s
you know the person whoever it is that’s asking that question I think that they
asking that question I think that they
asking that question I think that they don’t they don’t they’re never going to
don’t they don’t they’re never going to
don’t they don’t they’re never going to know until they do it you know there has
know until they do it you know there has
know until they do it you know there has to be this drive in you that has to that
to be this drive in you that has to that
to be this drive in you that has to that truly says to you man I gotta go try
truly says to you man I gotta go try
truly says to you man I gotta go try this
this
this you know I’ve whether its companies that
you know I’ve whether its companies that
you know I’ve whether its companies that I’ve invested in or whether its people
I’ve invested in or whether its people
I’ve invested in or whether its people that I’ve spoken to recently there’s a
that I’ve spoken to recently there’s a
that I’ve spoken to recently there’s a lot of people out there that don’t think
lot of people out there that don’t think
lot of people out there that don’t think that there were
that there were
that there were to try something until they go try it
to try something until they go try it
to try something until they go try it and then they go wow I should have done
and then they go wow I should have done
and then they go wow I should have done this earlier and then there’s people
this earlier and then there’s people
this earlier and then there’s people that did it really early that they
that did it really early that they
that did it really early that they should have never done it okay because
should have never done it okay because
should have never done it okay because they weren’t successful but they would
they weren’t successful but they would
they weren’t successful but they would have never known what they did it so I
have never known what they did it so I
have never known what they did it so I can honestly say I don’t know if there’s
can honestly say I don’t know if there’s
can honestly say I don’t know if there’s a straight answer there you know I could
a straight answer there you know I could
a straight answer there you know I could listen you can open up an Excel
listen you can open up an Excel
listen you can open up an Excel spreadsheet and you could put something
spreadsheet and you could put something
spreadsheet and you could put something on one side and on the other side say
on one side and on the other side say
on one side and on the other side say what what am I good at what am I not
what what am I good at what am I not
what what am I good at what am I not good at whatever it is the bottom line
good at whatever it is the bottom line
good at whatever it is the bottom line is you’re never going to know until you
is you’re never going to know until you
is you’re never going to know until you try it right cool ah someone is asking
try it right cool ah someone is asking
try it right cool ah someone is asking how important is money raising money at
how important is money raising money at
how important is money raising money at the start of the business I would say
the start of the business I would say
the start of the business I would say 95% of companies go out of business
95% of companies go out of business
95% of companies go out of business because there’s no money so I don’t know
because there’s no money so I don’t know
because there’s no money so I don’t know if it’s necessary from day one until you
if it’s necessary from day one until you
if it’s necessary from day one until you understand what you’re doing because the
understand what you’re doing because the
understand what you’re doing because the worst thing you want to take somebody’s
worst thing you want to take somebody’s
worst thing you want to take somebody’s money and then the fail but I think
money and then the fail but I think
money and then the fail but I think money is very important but I think
money is very important but I think
money is very important but I think getting the right money you know one of
getting the right money you know one of
getting the right money you know one of the things that I always urge people
the things that I always urge people
the things that I always urge people that I that uh that I talk to whether
that I that uh that I talk to whether
that I that uh that I talk to whether they’re looking for money from an
they’re looking for money from an
they’re looking for money from an investment whether it’s for myself or
investment whether it’s for myself or
investment whether it’s for myself or whether it’s from somebody else is you
whether it’s from somebody else is you
whether it’s from somebody else is you know if if you take in too much money
know if if you take in too much money
know if if you take in too much money then you’re going to make some stupid
then you’re going to make some stupid
then you’re going to make some stupid decisions if you take too much money you
decisions if you take too much money you
decisions if you take too much money you might dilute yourself to where it’s not
might dilute yourself to where it’s not
might dilute yourself to where it’s not important to you anymore to where you’re
important to you anymore to where you’re
important to you anymore to where you’re not gonna have enough ownership to where
not gonna have enough ownership to where
not gonna have enough ownership to where it’s meaningful so but then there’s that
it’s meaningful so but then there’s that
it’s meaningful so but then there’s that tough balance because you want to take
tough balance because you want to take
tough balance because you want to take enough in but you want to be able to you
enough in but you want to be able to you
enough in but you want to be able to you want to be able to streamline and you
want to be able to streamline and you
want to be able to streamline and you want to be very very good to yourself to
want to be very very good to yourself to
want to be very very good to yourself to say I don’t want as much in there
say I don’t want as much in there
say I don’t want as much in there because I will go spend it you have to
because I will go spend it you have to
because I will go spend it you have to develop a discipline you have to
develop a discipline you have to
develop a discipline you have to understand what is sometimes that’s
understand what is sometimes that’s
understand what is sometimes that’s learning the hard way though you know
learning the hard way though you know
learning the hard way though you know I’m somebody that’s always built through
I’m somebody that’s always built through
I’m somebody that’s always built through you know I always say I’m a P&L guy no
you know I always say I’m a P&L guy no
you know I always say I’m a P&L guy no one knows how to drive crap line and
one knows how to drive crap line and
one knows how to drive crap line and bottom line better than me but I’m not a
bottom line better than me but I’m not a
bottom line better than me but I’m not a balance sheet guy I need a lot of cash
balance sheet guy I need a lot of cash
balance sheet guy I need a lot of cash to drive my businesses that’s not
to drive my businesses that’s not
to drive my businesses that’s not necessarily a good thing it’s yes cat
necessarily a good thing it’s yes cat
necessarily a good thing it’s yes cat let me answer it directly cash is
let me answer it directly cash is
let me answer it directly cash is extremely important cash raising is very
extremely important cash raising is very
extremely important cash raising is very important but not until you know that
important but not until you know that
important but not until you know that you have a real product something viable
you have a real product something viable
you have a real product something viable that you can go out there and truly make
that you can go out there and truly make
that you can go out there and truly make a difference with because the worst
a difference with because the worst
a difference with because the worst thing you want and trust me it’s
thing you want and trust me it’s
thing you want and trust me it’s happened because there are is going to
happened because there are is going to
happened because there are is going to be scars and there’s been a lot of black
be scars and there’s been a lot of black
be scars and there’s been a lot of black eyes in this industry where people go
eyes in this industry where people go
eyes in this industry where people go take a lot of money and then they fail
take a lot of money and then they fail
take a lot of money and then they fail and they go right through it all those
and they go right through it all those
and they go right through it all those people going to be really tough to get
people going to be really tough to get
people going to be really tough to get funded again mm-hmm people remember yeah
funded again mm-hmm people remember yeah
funded again mm-hmm people remember yeah well you know people do remember but
well you know people do remember but
well you know people do remember but they also have short memories you know
they also have short memories you know
they also have short memories you know and and uh the problem is in the commune
and and uh the problem is in the commune
and and uh the problem is in the commune in the cash raising community especially
in the cash raising community especially
in the cash raising community especially when you’re talking about the silicon
when you’re talking about the silicon
when you’re talking about the silicon valley’s of the world and everything
valley’s of the world and everything
valley’s of the world and everything like that it’s a pretty small community
like that it’s a pretty small community
like that it’s a pretty small community okay it’s not tough to forget but when
okay it’s not tough to forget but when
okay it’s not tough to forget but when you get into the world of the world it’s
you get into the world of the world it’s
you get into the world of the world it’s uh you know people do have short
uh you know people do have short
uh you know people do have short memories as long as you could deliver
memories as long as you could deliver
memories as long as you could deliver something really strong you know and
something really strong you know and
something really strong you know and again it goes back to all those people
again it goes back to all those people
again it goes back to all those people that are behind you and any successful
that are behind you and any successful
that are behind you and any successful entrepreneurs there’s been failures and
entrepreneurs there’s been failures and
entrepreneurs there’s been failures and if you go out the right way and you
if you go out the right way and you
if you go out the right way and you truly said that you tried you never
truly said that you tried you never
truly said that you tried you never screw to anybody and you never did it
screw to anybody and you never did it
screw to anybody and you never did it the wrong way then you can obviously put
the wrong way then you can obviously put
the wrong way then you can obviously put your head up high and say you know what
your head up high and say you know what
your head up high and say you know what I’m going to go do it this way next
I’m going to go do it this way next
I’m going to go do it this way next question is about bringing on a team in
question is about bringing on a team in
question is about bringing on a team in what stage of your businesses do you
what stage of your businesses do you
what stage of your businesses do you start bringing on a team depends I mean
start bringing on a team depends I mean
start bringing on a team depends I mean I think it depends on the business I
I think it depends on the business I
I think it depends on the business I think it you know a lot of times if
think it you know a lot of times if
think it you know a lot of times if you’re in a product business where you
you’re in a product business where you
you’re in a product business where you actually have something tangible it’s
actually have something tangible it’s
actually have something tangible it’s going to be really tough not to bring a
going to be really tough not to bring a
going to be really tough not to bring a team in in the beginning because you
team in in the beginning because you
team in in the beginning because you need to be able to move it to point A to
need to be able to move it to point A to
need to be able to move it to point A to point B if you’re in a tech business and
point B if you’re in a tech business and
point B if you’re in a tech business and you’re someone that’s a coder yourself
you’re someone that’s a coder yourself
you’re someone that’s a coder yourself or whatever it is I would suggest doing
or whatever it is I would suggest doing
or whatever it is I would suggest doing it yourself it’s a really tough question
it yourself it’s a really tough question
it yourself it’s a really tough question because it goes back to the money it
because it goes back to the money it
because it goes back to the money it goes back to the money aspect right I
goes back to the money aspect right I
goes back to the money aspect right I mean you can’t do things on vapor right
mean you can’t do things on vapor right
mean you can’t do things on vapor right you can’t try to you can’t pay people
you can’t try to you can’t pay people
you can’t try to you can’t pay people with IOUs
with IOUs
with IOUs so it really goes back to what stager
so it really goes back to what stager
so it really goes back to what stager and I would suggest to anybody I mean
and I would suggest to anybody I mean
and I would suggest to anybody I mean this is my third business so I uh I did
this is my third business so I uh I did
this is my third business so I uh I did this a little differently where I
this a little differently where I
this a little differently where I actually you’re geared up with a really
actually you’re geared up with a really
actually you’re geared up with a really strong team from day one so I can hit
strong team from day one so I can hit
strong team from day one so I can hit the market really running but it’s also
the market really running but it’s also
the market really running but it’s also it was also my third business this is
it was also my third business this is
it was also my third business this is your first business going out as an
your first business going out as an
your first business going out as an entrepreneur I much like going to raise
entrepreneur I much like going to raise
entrepreneur I much like going to raise money
money
money understand what your product is go
understand what your product is go
understand what your product is go through some of the trials and
through some of the trials and
through some of the trials and tribulations without bringing these
tribulations without bringing these
tribulations without bringing these people along with you
people along with you
people along with you so this way you’re even that much more
so this way you’re even that much more
so this way you’re even that much more successful when you have something that
successful when you have something that
successful when you have something that you’re ready to rock with and that’s the
you’re ready to rock with and that’s the
you’re ready to rock with and that’s the time you figure out a way to go get some
time you figure out a way to go get some
time you figure out a way to go get some capital in and to surround yourself with
capital in and to surround yourself with
capital in and to surround yourself with a really good team doesn’t mean you
a really good team doesn’t mean you
a really good team doesn’t mean you can’t call on people you know my
can’t call on people you know my
can’t call on people you know my suggestion is there’s really cheap ways
suggestion is there’s really cheap ways
suggestion is there’s really cheap ways to go get good people you know put
to go get good people you know put
to go get good people you know put together a really strong board put
together a really strong board put
together a really strong board put together a really strong advisory board
together a really strong advisory board
together a really strong advisory board it won’t cost you cash maybe it’ll cost
it won’t cost you cash maybe it’ll cost
it won’t cost you cash maybe it’ll cost you some equity but not a lot of equity
you some equity but not a lot of equity
you some equity but not a lot of equity you know and these are people that have
you know and these are people that have
you know and these are people that have been there and done that before so I
been there and done that before so I
been there and done that before so I would say absolutely take it understand
would say absolutely take it understand
would say absolutely take it understand what you need in order to go do it but
what you need in order to go do it but
what you need in order to go do it but the cheapest way in the beginning is to
the cheapest way in the beginning is to
the cheapest way in the beginning is to do it yourself
do it yourself
do it yourself as well as surround yourself with a team
as well as surround yourself with a team
as well as surround yourself with a team that maybe won some equity without
that maybe won some equity without
that maybe won some equity without actual cash off the door on a related
actual cash off the door on a related
actual cash off the door on a related note someone’s asking
note someone’s asking
note someone’s asking when did you know your business was
when did you know your business was
when did you know your business was going to be successful or was it an
going to be successful or was it an
going to be successful or was it an overnight success for you
overnight success for you
overnight success for you no nothing nothing’s been an overnight
no nothing nothing’s been an overnight
no nothing nothing’s been an overnight and even even flock you today I mean the
and even even flock you today I mean the
and even even flock you today I mean the company just launched our main product
company just launched our main product
company just launched our main product in March and you know we’ve close to a
in March and you know we’ve close to a
in March and you know we’ve close to a million members and you know three
million members and you know three
million members and you know three million users and we have over 22 brands
million users and we have over 22 brands
million users and we have over 22 brands that we’ve done business with and we
that we’ve done business with and we
that we’ve done business with and we have a lot of great successes that we’re
have a lot of great successes that we’re
have a lot of great successes that we’re doing right now but trust me we’re not
doing right now but trust me we’re not
doing right now but trust me we’re not we’re not even close to where we need to
we’re not even close to where we need to
we’re not even close to where we need to be um you know it’s it’s very easy to
be um you know it’s it’s very easy to
be um you know it’s it’s very easy to make a first move but being sustainable
make a first move but being sustainable
make a first move but being sustainable is something that’s a lot harder so I
is something that’s a lot harder so I
is something that’s a lot harder so I don’t believe I think you know you read
don’t believe I think you know you read
don’t believe I think you know you read about the Airbnb and uber of the world
about the Airbnb and uber of the world
about the Airbnb and uber of the world and so on and so forth and and you think
and so on and so forth and and you think
and so on and so forth and and you think that their overnight successes they’re
that their overnight successes they’re
that their overnight successes they’re really not these are people that have
really not these are people that have
really not these are people that have been at it for a very long time they’ve
been at it for a very long time they’ve
been at it for a very long time they’ve been they’ve been very lucky to be able
been they’ve been very lucky to be able
been they’ve been very lucky to be able to give an opportunity to able to get
to give an opportunity to able to get
to give an opportunity to able to get the product out there but again it’s
the product out there but again it’s
the product out there but again it’s taking that product and making sure you
taking that product and making sure you
taking that product and making sure you have the right product to be able to do
have the right product to be able to do
have the right product to be able to do it so I don’t believe in overnight
it so I don’t believe in overnight
it so I don’t believe in overnight successes
successes
successes I really don’t and I think they happen
I really don’t and I think they happen
I really don’t and I think they happen just like anything happens but I think
just like anything happens but I think
just like anything happens but I think to truly be successful you have to have
to truly be successful you have to have
to truly be successful you have to have an unbelievable product that people want
an unbelievable product that people want
an unbelievable product that people want and you have to be able to execute on
and you have to be able to execute on
and you have to be able to execute on and even that much better ooh
and even that much better ooh
and even that much better ooh and let’s see me think that time for one
and let’s see me think that time for one
and let’s see me think that time for one more question coming in are you uptight
more question coming in are you uptight
more question coming in are you uptight every day because of your goals how do
every day because of your goals how do
every day because of your goals how do you find peace while having this insane
you find peace while having this insane
you find peace while having this insane Drive ah probably meditation meditation
Drive ah probably meditation meditation
Drive ah probably meditation meditation is a really good thing listen I think
is a really good thing listen I think
is a really good thing listen I think it’s it’s all how you’re wired you know
it’s it’s all how you’re wired you know
it’s it’s all how you’re wired you know it’s it’s it goes back to what you’re
it’s it’s it goes back to what you’re
it’s it’s it goes back to what you’re looking to accomplish one of the things
looking to accomplish one of the things
looking to accomplish one of the things I start my day off with which is really
I start my day off with which is really
I start my day off with which is really important is is I review my calendar and
important is is I review my calendar and
important is is I review my calendar and I take a look and I say really what’s
I take a look and I say really what’s
I take a look and I say really what’s important today and what’s not you know
important today and what’s not you know
important today and what’s not you know I’ve actually been accused which is the
I’ve actually been accused which is the
I’ve actually been accused which is the right accusation of moving my schedule a
right accusation of moving my schedule a
right accusation of moving my schedule a lot which is something that’s a major
lot which is something that’s a major
lot which is something that’s a major flaw of mine but I take a look at what’s
flaw of mine but I take a look at what’s
flaw of mine but I take a look at what’s important and what’s not important and
important and what’s not important and
important and what’s not important and in the morning I really review and I
in the morning I really review and I
in the morning I really review and I make those decisions on the fly you know
make those decisions on the fly you know
make those decisions on the fly you know what you don’t want to do is overburden
what you don’t want to do is overburden
what you don’t want to do is overburden yourself but the other thing you don’t
yourself but the other thing you don’t
yourself but the other thing you don’t want to do is keep an empty day but I do
want to do is keep an empty day but I do
want to do is keep an empty day but I do believe in downtime I do believe in you
believe in downtime I do believe in you
believe in downtime I do believe in you know whether it’s going to the bathroom
know whether it’s going to the bathroom
know whether it’s going to the bathroom is your down time whether it’s
is your down time whether it’s
is your down time whether it’s meditation whether it’s going for a walk
meditation whether it’s going for a walk
meditation whether it’s going for a walk whether it’s eating lunch whatever it is
whether it’s eating lunch whatever it is
whether it’s eating lunch whatever it is you need the your brain is a muscle and
you need the your brain is a muscle and
you need the your brain is a muscle and you need to relax every once in a while
you need to relax every once in a while
you need to relax every once in a while unless you’re going to burn it out or
unless you’re going to burn it out or
unless you’re going to burn it out or you’re going to make it flat so to me
you’re going to make it flat so to me
you’re going to make it flat so to me it’s very important to make sure you
it’s very important to make sure you
it’s very important to make sure you have some kind of down time so that’s
have some kind of down time so that’s
have some kind of down time so that’s how
how
how I’m able to be able to manage the drive
I’m able to be able to manage the drive
I’m able to be able to manage the drive with the uptightness and with the with
with the uptightness and with the with
with the uptightness and with the with the with the unbelievable focus to say I
the with the unbelievable focus to say I
the with the unbelievable focus to say I have to get stuff that this particular
have to get stuff that this particular
have to get stuff that this particular stuff done today but I know I won’t be
stuff done today but I know I won’t be
stuff done today but I know I won’t be able to do it accurately unless I take a
able to do it accurately unless I take a
able to do it accurately unless I take a little bit of that down time and again
little bit of that down time and again
little bit of that down time and again I’ve learned that the hard way so we get
I’ve learned that the hard way so we get
I’ve learned that the hard way so we get a lot of love in the chat people
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happy to be able to answer any questions you have I think it’s the first time
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you have I think it’s the first time somebody’s put their personal cell
somebody’s put their personal cell
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appreciate that don’t I wait I’m hoping
appreciate that don’t I wait I’m hoping that’s a good time I’m hoping I’ll be
that’s a good time I’m hoping I’ll be
that’s a good time I’m hoping I’ll be calls right now but that listen but I
calls right now but that listen but I
calls right now but that listen but I we’ve all been there so any time I could
we’ve all been there so any time I could
we’ve all been there so any time I could be able to help out somebody I think
be able to help out somebody I think
be able to help out somebody I think it’s really important yeah I mean
it’s really important yeah I mean
it’s really important yeah I mean everybody gives the Twitter
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this is a first Josh giving out his personal cell number
Josh giving out his personal cell number
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Josh man really appreciate the love today getting tons of fans here and the
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