hello everyone and welcome to another google hangout i’m excited to have with
google hangout i’m excited to have with
google hangout i’m excited to have with me loveland medicine who runs a podcast
me loveland medicine who runs a podcast
me loveland medicine who runs a podcast called imagine the possibilities and she
called imagine the possibilities and she
called imagine the possibilities and she wanted me to come on and do a skype
wanted me to come on and do a skype
wanted me to come on and do a skype interview with her for her podcast and i
interview with her for her podcast and i
interview with her for her podcast and i said hey let’s turn it into a video
said hey let’s turn it into a video
said hey let’s turn it into a video Google hangout so that you guys my aunts
Google hangout so that you guys my aunts
Google hangout so that you guys my aunts get benefit as well I’m learning a
get benefit as well I’m learning a
get benefit as well I’m learning a little bit about her show and she can
little bit about her show and she can
little bit about her show and she can use the audio for her podcast as well so
use the audio for her podcast as well so
use the audio for her podcast as well so loveland welcome aboard thank you
loveland welcome aboard thank you
loveland welcome aboard thank you welcome to imagine the possibilities I
welcome to imagine the possibilities I
welcome to imagine the possibilities I love it I know you’ve got a bunch of
love it I know you’ve got a bunch of
love it I know you’ve got a bunch of questions you want to just give a quick
questions you want to just give a quick
questions you want to just give a quick overview of what your podcast is all
overview of what your podcast is all
overview of what your podcast is all about and then just hit me with whatever
about and then just hit me with whatever
about and then just hit me with whatever you want okay imagine the possibilities
you want okay imagine the possibilities
you want okay imagine the possibilities is a kind of a new podcast this will
is a kind of a new podcast this will
is a kind of a new podcast this will only be twenty third episode and it is a
only be twenty third episode and it is a
only be twenty third episode and it is a podcast where I interview people who are
podcast where I interview people who are
podcast where I interview people who are living fascinating lives the idea is
living fascinating lives the idea is
living fascinating lives the idea is that we can learn from what other people
that we can learn from what other people
that we can learn from what other people have done in the past their mistakes and
have done in the past their mistakes and
have done in the past their mistakes and their successes I like it number number
their successes I like it number number
their successes I like it number number 23 it’s Michael Jordan that’s some
23 it’s Michael Jordan that’s some
23 it’s Michael Jordan that’s some pressure you put on yeah I don’t know
pressure you put on yeah I don’t know
pressure you put on yeah I don’t know anything about sports so I wouldn’t know
anything about sports so I wouldn’t know
anything about sports so I wouldn’t know that all right so we’ll just jump right
that all right so we’ll just jump right
that all right so we’ll just jump right into the questions and all right yeah
into the questions and all right yeah
into the questions and all right yeah hit me all right so you talked a lot
hit me all right so you talked a lot
hit me all right so you talked a lot about how you have a passion for
about how you have a passion for
about how you have a passion for entrepreneurship and helping
entrepreneurship and helping
entrepreneurship and helping entrepreneurs I just thought you could
entrepreneurs I just thought you could
entrepreneurs I just thought you could start out just by telling us a bit about
start out just by telling us a bit about
start out just by telling us a bit about where that passion comes from ha that’s
where that passion comes from ha that’s
where that passion comes from ha that’s a great question um in my first business
a great question um in my first business
a great question um in my first business was a software company and it was just
was a software company and it was just
was a software company and it was just me and my two business partners and I
me and my two business partners and I
me and my two business partners and I didn’t do anything help with other
didn’t do anything help with other
didn’t do anything help with other entrepreneurs didn’t really know about
entrepreneurs didn’t really know about
entrepreneurs didn’t really know about the entrepreneurialism you know a goal
the entrepreneurialism you know a goal
the entrepreneurialism you know a goal or passion of mine necessarily and we
or passion of mine necessarily and we
or passion of mine necessarily and we struggled a lot and eventually made it
struggled a lot and eventually made it
struggled a lot and eventually made it through and I you know I just felt at
through and I you know I just felt at
through and I you know I just felt at that time like I wish it was easier wish
that time like I wish it was easier wish
that time like I wish it was easier wish there was information that would help me
there was information that would help me
there was information that would help me more than what I had available to me um
more than what I had available to me um
more than what I had available to me um you know there’s nothing really at my
you know there’s nothing really at my
you know there’s nothing really at my university nobody my family was
university nobody my family was
university nobody my family was entrepreneurs and so we struggled and
entrepreneurs and so we struggled and
entrepreneurs and so we struggled and almost almost quit and almost gave up
almost almost quit and almost gave up
almost almost quit and almost gave up and then you know when we had some
and then you know when we had some
and then you know when we had some success and I sold
success and I sold
success and I sold my business I was invited to speak at a
my business I was invited to speak at a
my business I was invited to speak at a couple of events being kind of this
couple of events being kind of this
couple of events being kind of this young entrepreneur success story I guess
young entrepreneur success story I guess
young entrepreneur success story I guess and one of the first ones was with a
and one of the first ones was with a
and one of the first ones was with a YMCA and they asked if I would come and
YMCA and they asked if I would come and
YMCA and they asked if I would come and do a speech to their students they had
do a speech to their students they had
do a speech to their students they had this program helping entrepreneurs get
this program helping entrepreneurs get
this program helping entrepreneurs get started in Toronto which is my city and
started in Toronto which is my city and
started in Toronto which is my city and it’s a chair I’ll come and I spent kind
it’s a chair I’ll come and I spent kind
it’s a chair I’ll come and I spent kind of a couple weeks preparing you know I
of a couple weeks preparing you know I
of a couple weeks preparing you know I wanted to get all of my best advice and
wanted to get all of my best advice and
wanted to get all of my best advice and tips in there for all the lessons that I
tips in there for all the lessons that I
tips in there for all the lessons that I felt I had learned and and they were
felt I had learned and and they were
felt I had learned and and they were promoting it and I promoted it was a
promoting it and I promoted it was a
promoting it and I promoted it was a free event and only three people showed
free event and only three people showed
free event and only three people showed up which which was uh like heartbreaking
up which which was uh like heartbreaking
up which which was uh like heartbreaking for me um but I loved it and and as like
for me um but I loved it and and as like
for me um but I loved it and and as like the show must go on and I helped those
the show must go on and I helped those
the show must go on and I helped those three people out and they left change
three people out and they left change
three people out and they left change people and inspired to go and do their
people and inspired to go and do their
people and inspired to go and do their business and at the time I didn’t know
business and at the time I didn’t know
business and at the time I didn’t know what I was going to do next I sold my
what I was going to do next I sold my
what I was going to do next I sold my business I was just looking for new
business I was just looking for new
business I was just looking for new opportunities a little bit sad and even
opportunities a little bit sad and even
opportunities a little bit sad and even let me be even depressed because I you
let me be even depressed because I you
let me be even depressed because I you know had this huge high and I didn’t
know had this huge high and I didn’t
know had this huge high and I didn’t know what to do next um and I kind of
know what to do next um and I kind of
know what to do next um and I kind of got it again when I was helping those
got it again when I was helping those
got it again when I was helping those three entrepreneurs and I didn’t know
three entrepreneurs and I didn’t know
three entrepreneurs and I didn’t know how I would turn it into a business um
how I would turn it into a business um
how I would turn it into a business um in fact if you look at it you know if
in fact if you look at it you know if
in fact if you look at it you know if you can’t get people to come out to a
you can’t get people to come out to a
you can’t get people to come out to a free event only three people show up how
free event only three people show up how
free event only three people show up how are you ever going to turn this into a
are you ever going to turn this into a
are you ever going to turn this into a business logic would dictate that I
business logic would dictate that I
business logic would dictate that I should go do something else um but I
should go do something else um but I
should go do something else um but I just I loved it I loved it so much I
just I loved it I loved it so much I
just I loved it I loved it so much I loved helping those people and so I knew
loved helping those people and so I knew
loved helping those people and so I knew that I had to find a way to keep doing
that I had to find a way to keep doing
that I had to find a way to keep doing it so that was that was kind of I i
it so that was that was kind of I i
it so that was that was kind of I i stumbled into it was an invite from the
stumbled into it was an invite from the
stumbled into it was an invite from the ymca and i’m a big believer in following
ymca and i’m a big believer in following
ymca and i’m a big believer in following your flow when you get into that you got
your flow when you get into that you got
your flow when you get into that you got to stay there as long as possible so i
to stay there as long as possible so i
to stay there as long as possible so i had to find a way to make it work so you
had to find a way to make it work so you
had to find a way to make it work so you said you started out right on the
said you started out right on the
said you started out right on the university with your own business about
university with your own business about
university with your own business about right yeah you know when i was in high
right yeah you know when i was in high
right yeah you know when i was in high school I thought I was going to be a
school I thought I was going to be a
school I thought I was going to be a banker you know when you have to fill
banker you know when you have to fill
banker you know when you have to fill out that form at the end of the year and
out that form at the end of the year and
out that form at the end of the year and say where am I going to be in 10 years
say where am I going to be in 10 years
say where am I going to be in 10 years mindset I would be a banker at a BP at a
mindset I would be a banker at a BP at a
mindset I would be a banker at a BP at a big bank that was my those my dream
big bank that was my those my dream
big bank that was my those my dream coming at high school because again I
coming at high school because again I
coming at high school because again I didn’t have any entrepreneur
didn’t have any entrepreneur
didn’t have any entrepreneur winces in my life nobody in my family’s
winces in my life nobody in my family’s
winces in my life nobody in my family’s an entrepreneur I didn’t know anybody
an entrepreneur I didn’t know anybody
an entrepreneur I didn’t know anybody was an entrepreneur so I just felt like
was an entrepreneur so I just felt like
was an entrepreneur so I just felt like I’m gonna do the banking route and then
I’m gonna do the banking route and then
I’m gonna do the banking route and then I got University and there were two
I got University and there were two
I got University and there were two people who are connected with what
people who are connected with what
people who are connected with what started the business who weren’t doing
started the business who weren’t doing
started the business who weren’t doing super well and asked me to join as a
super well and asked me to join as a
super well and asked me to join as a partner to help do the business side of
partner to help do the business side of
partner to help do the business side of it and at the time I was facing a big
it and at the time I was facing a big
it and at the time I was facing a big struggle because I had gotten job offers
struggle because I had gotten job offers
struggle because I had gotten job offers from the banks from the companies that I
from the banks from the companies that I
from the banks from the companies that I wanted to go work with I had an offer
wanted to go work with I had an offer
wanted to go work with I had an offer with merrill lynch and with McKinsey
with merrill lynch and with McKinsey
with merrill lynch and with McKinsey Consulting and you know they’re paying
Consulting and you know they’re paying
Consulting and you know they’re paying 80 to 100 thousand dollars starting
80 to 100 thousand dollars starting
80 to 100 thousand dollars starting salary fly me to the world of Astoria to
salary fly me to the world of Astoria to
salary fly me to the world of Astoria to recruit me um very tempting and at the
recruit me um very tempting and at the
recruit me um very tempting and at the time i was making three hundred dollars
time i was making three hundred dollars
time i was making three hundred dollars a month that my startup business so
a month that my startup business so
a month that my startup business so that’s uh you know that was pretty sad
that’s uh you know that was pretty sad
that’s uh you know that was pretty sad um but something made me feel like you
um but something made me feel like you
um but something made me feel like you know I want to I want to give this
know I want to I want to give this
know I want to I want to give this company a shot I don’t know something
company a shot I don’t know something
company a shot I don’t know something made me feel like I don’t want to live
made me feel like I don’t want to live
made me feel like I don’t want to live the rest of my life and regret and worry
the rest of my life and regret and worry
the rest of my life and regret and worry that man what if I had taken that chance
that man what if I had taken that chance
that man what if I had taken that chance and I figured I could always go and get
and I figured I could always go and get
and I figured I could always go and get a job in another year and I said I take
a job in another year and I said I take
a job in another year and I said I take a year off I’m going to do my business
a year off I’m going to do my business
a year off I’m going to do my business and and see how it goes so again I kind
and and see how it goes so again I kind
and and see how it goes so again I kind of just stumbled into it I you know I
of just stumbled into it I you know I
of just stumbled into it I you know I met those two people and they needed
met those two people and they needed
met those two people and they needed help and I thought it was an exciting
help and I thought it was an exciting
help and I thought it was an exciting challenge and so followed my flow into
challenge and so followed my flow into
challenge and so followed my flow into that opportunity and fortunately we
that opportunity and fortunately we
that opportunity and fortunately we turned it around um but I had to turn
turned it around um but I had to turn
turned it around um but I had to turn down kind of big offers that at the time
down kind of big offers that at the time
down kind of big offers that at the time I thought was what my my dream was so
I thought was what my my dream was so
I thought was what my my dream was so how did the people around you respond
how did the people around you respond
how did the people around you respond when you were turning down these big
when you were turning down these big
when you were turning down these big offers to continue forward this business
offers to continue forward this business
offers to continue forward this business it was struggling uh they were confused
it was struggling uh they were confused
it was struggling uh they were confused um uh unlucky that my parents important
um uh unlucky that my parents important
um uh unlucky that my parents important whatever I want to do you know they meet
whatever I want to do you know they meet
whatever I want to do you know they meet me know like bully you see it on the
me know like bully you see it on the
me know like bully you see it on the wall that came from them they always
wall that came from them they always
wall that came from them they always believed in me they always told me that
believed in me they always told me that
believed in me they always told me that I macos truly carmike and I can do
I macos truly carmike and I can do
I macos truly carmike and I can do whatever I want and even though they are
whatever I want and even though they are
whatever I want and even though they are very safe you know my dad worked for the
very safe you know my dad worked for the
very safe you know my dad worked for the government for forever you know very
government for forever you know very
government for forever you know very safe players they did
safe players they did
safe players they did hold me back from doing what I wanted to
hold me back from doing what I wanted to
hold me back from doing what I wanted to do they may be couldn’t give me advice
do they may be couldn’t give me advice
do they may be couldn’t give me advice as to what to do but they they just
as to what to do but they they just
as to what to do but they they just always made me feel like I could do
always made me feel like I could do
always made me feel like I could do whatever I wanted to do my friends were
whatever I wanted to do my friends were
whatever I wanted to do my friends were also confused cuz they wanted those same
also confused cuz they wanted those same
also confused cuz they wanted those same jobs right like I’m getting the call to
jobs right like I’m getting the call to
jobs right like I’m getting the call to go to New York for this big job and
go to New York for this big job and
go to New York for this big job and they’re not and so they’re jealous and
they’re not and so they’re jealous and
they’re not and so they’re jealous and then I don’t do it to go do this other
then I don’t do it to go do this other
then I don’t do it to go do this other business um I was embarrassed and
business um I was embarrassed and
business um I was embarrassed and ashamed at the time they didn’t know how
ashamed at the time they didn’t know how
ashamed at the time they didn’t know how how badly my company was doing didn’t
how badly my company was doing didn’t
how badly my company was doing didn’t know i was making three hundred dollars
know i was making three hundred dollars
know i was making three hundred dollars a month you know um and I was too
a month you know um and I was too
a month you know um and I was too ashamed to tell them and so that’s on me
ashamed to tell them and so that’s on me
ashamed to tell them and so that’s on me I guess and that was tough because I had
I guess and that was tough because I had
I guess and that was tough because I had I had you know I can only go out maybe
I had you know I can only go out maybe
I had you know I can only go out maybe once a month with them for pizza and
once a month with them for pizza and
once a month with them for pizza and beer because I couldn’t afford anything
beer because I couldn’t afford anything
beer because I couldn’t afford anything else I didn’t have the money to do it
else I didn’t have the money to do it
else I didn’t have the money to do it and I was supposed to be living the
and I was supposed to be living the
and I was supposed to be living the entrepreneur dream you know I turned it
entrepreneur dream you know I turned it
entrepreneur dream you know I turned it on the job says stick it to the man and
on the job says stick it to the man and
on the job says stick it to the man and do what I wanted and I was not having
do what I wanted and I was not having
do what I wanted and I was not having success um so yeah I was it was kind of
success um so yeah I was it was kind of
success um so yeah I was it was kind of isolating like I didn’t know who to talk
isolating like I didn’t know who to talk
isolating like I didn’t know who to talk to you about what I was going through my
to you about what I was going through my
to you about what I was going through my parents where it gets emotional support
parents where it gets emotional support
parents where it gets emotional support but my friends and my own fault by not
but my friends and my own fault by not
but my friends and my own fault by not opening up they were confused and you
opening up they were confused and you
opening up they were confused and you know thought I might be crazy to go and
know thought I might be crazy to go and
know thought I might be crazy to go and try and do this thing I think it’s
try and do this thing I think it’s
try and do this thing I think it’s interesting that you said that you were
interesting that you said that you were
interesting that you said that you were you felt embarrassed by the situation
you felt embarrassed by the situation
you felt embarrassed by the situation because for me personally I have a big
because for me personally I have a big
because for me personally I have a big problem with being embarrassed and that
problem with being embarrassed and that
problem with being embarrassed and that holds me back a lot from doing things
holds me back a lot from doing things
holds me back a lot from doing things that I would want to do so I get over
that I would want to do so I get over
that I would want to do so I get over that embarrassment um it’s a good
that embarrassment um it’s a good
that embarrassment um it’s a good question i guess i became successful
like I don’t think I told anybody um any
like I don’t think I told anybody um any of my friends really they all that just
of my friends really they all that just
of my friends really they all that just assumed I was I was successful and it
assumed I was I was successful and it
assumed I was I was successful and it was you know they were working for the
was you know they were working for the
was you know they were working for the man and they were hating their jobs and
man and they were hating their jobs and
man and they were hating their jobs and working 100 hours a week and um yeah I
working 100 hours a week and um yeah I
working 100 hours a week and um yeah I don’t think I really i mean III think i
don’t think I really i mean III think i
don’t think I really i mean III think i think it would have been better if i did
think it would have been better if i did
think it would have been better if i did like looking back I think maybe it was
like looking back I think maybe it was
like looking back I think maybe it was immaturity or stubbornness or what but i
immaturity or stubbornness or what but i
immaturity or stubbornness or what but i think i think i would have had an easier
think i think i would have had an easier
think i think i would have had an easier time getting through it
time getting through it
time getting through it they knew how hard a time I was having
they knew how hard a time I was having
they knew how hard a time I was having an appeal to give me some more support
an appeal to give me some more support
an appeal to give me some more support and ideas even if just emotional support
and ideas even if just emotional support
and ideas even if just emotional support um yeah so I don’t know I don’t think I
um yeah so I don’t know I don’t think I
um yeah so I don’t know I don’t think I handle it very well but that’s I guess
handle it very well but that’s I guess
handle it very well but that’s I guess that’s the story now I became successful
that’s the story now I became successful
that’s the story now I became successful then I and then I told my story but how
then I and then I told my story but how
then I and then I told my story but how I we struggled and they were like why do
I we struggled and they were like why do
I we struggled and they were like why do you were sparkling back then I didn’t
you were sparkling back then I didn’t
you were sparkling back then I didn’t know um so now I’m much more open at
know um so now I’m much more open at
know um so now I’m much more open at least I feel in admitting where I’m
least I feel in admitting where I’m
least I feel in admitting where I’m struggling and what mistakes I have and
struggling and what mistakes I have and
struggling and what mistakes I have and how it how I’m trying to get better
how it how I’m trying to get better
how it how I’m trying to get better that’s good though because then people
that’s good though because then people
that’s good though because then people can learn from your experience I think
can learn from your experience I think
can learn from your experience I think it’s really good that you’re willing to
it’s really good that you’re willing to
it’s really good that you’re willing to be so open about what’s going on with
be so open about what’s going on with
be so open about what’s going on with your business now and what’s happened in
your business now and what’s happened in
your business now and what’s happened in the past it’s really good so when you’re
the past it’s really good so when you’re
the past it’s really good so when you’re you were struggling in the business what
you were struggling in the business what
you were struggling in the business what gave you the drive to stick to it and
gave you the drive to stick to it and
gave you the drive to stick to it and not just say okay I’m gonna go get a
not just say okay I’m gonna go get a
not just say okay I’m gonna go get a normal conventional job yeah uh I almost
normal conventional job yeah uh I almost
normal conventional job yeah uh I almost quit um and I think it’s normal I think
quit um and I think it’s normal I think
quit um and I think it’s normal I think I think it’s something nobody talks
I think it’s something nobody talks
I think it’s something nobody talks about how you know it’s an entrepreneur
about how you know it’s an entrepreneur
about how you know it’s an entrepreneur always seeing all the good things right
always seeing all the good things right
always seeing all the good things right like oh I just launches new podcast I
like oh I just launches new podcast I
like oh I just launches new podcast I just got this new client or whatever
just got this new client or whatever
just got this new client or whatever it’s always a good stuff but not that I
it’s always a good stuff but not that I
it’s always a good stuff but not that I don’t know what I’m doing if I’m going
don’t know what I’m doing if I’m going
don’t know what I’m doing if I’m going to make it and I think I might have to
to make it and I think I might have to
to make it and I think I might have to go and get a job nobody ever really
go and get a job nobody ever really
go and get a job nobody ever really talks about that and I think it’s
talks about that and I think it’s
talks about that and I think it’s important to acknowledge that that
important to acknowledge that that
important to acknowledge that that everybody goes through that on their
everybody goes through that on their
everybody goes through that on their journey and on their cycle I think that
journey and on their cycle I think that
journey and on their cycle I think that makes a little easier because when
makes a little easier because when
makes a little easier because when you’re struggling and you can’t make it
you’re struggling and you can’t make it
you’re struggling and you can’t make it work and you just read the magazines and
work and you just read the magazines and
work and you just read the magazines and newspapers and watch videos with the
newspapers and watch videos with the
newspapers and watch videos with the people making a huge like why am I not
people making a huge like why am I not
people making a huge like why am I not there until my story you know I had
there until my story you know I had
there until my story you know I had always had success when I applied myself
always had success when I applied myself
always had success when I applied myself um I think it’s for most people like if
um I think it’s for most people like if
um I think it’s for most people like if I spent more time at school I would get
I spent more time at school I would get
I spent more time at school I would get better grades if I practice you know my
better grades if I practice you know my
better grades if I practice you know my jump shot I’d have a better play better
jump shot I’d have a better play better
jump shot I’d have a better play better basketball and here it was in my
basketball and here it was in my
basketball and here it was in my business working hard like I was not
business working hard like I was not
business working hard like I was not slacking I was working my butt off and I
slacking I was working my butt off and I
slacking I was working my butt off and I was not getting results and it was just
was not getting results and it was just
was not getting results and it was just soul crushing you know like I’ve never
soul crushing you know like I’ve never
soul crushing you know like I’ve never felt so demoralized so worthless ever
felt so demoralized so worthless ever
felt so demoralized so worthless ever in my life anything you know if I wasn’t
in my life anything you know if I wasn’t
in my life anything you know if I wasn’t trying fine like they can write that up
trying fine like they can write that up
trying fine like they can write that up if here I was like really trying um and
if here I was like really trying um and
if here I was like really trying um and one day came where it was the family
one day came where it was the family
one day came where it was the family event and uh I got into a disagreement
event and uh I got into a disagreement
event and uh I got into a disagreement with my partner and just you know I as
with my partner and just you know I as
with my partner and just you know I as general we’re pretty much on the same
general we’re pretty much on the same
general we’re pretty much on the same page when you’re not making any money
page when you’re not making any money
page when you’re not making any money you know you start to disagree over
you know you start to disagree over
you know you start to disagree over where to take the business and and I
where to take the business and and I
where to take the business and and I told them that I quit like I can’t do
told them that I quit like I can’t do
told them that I quit like I can’t do this anymore I want to feel like I’m
this anymore I want to feel like I’m
this anymore I want to feel like I’m contributing something valuable I can’t
contributing something valuable I can’t
contributing something valuable I can’t take this anymore I quit I’m done um and
take this anymore I quit I’m done um and
take this anymore I quit I’m done um and I hung up the phone I just cried
I hung up the phone I just cried
I hung up the phone I just cried endlessly for I don’t know 45 minutes
endlessly for I don’t know 45 minutes
endlessly for I don’t know 45 minutes and I was at my parents house and I mom
and I was at my parents house and I mom
and I was at my parents house and I mom came up and put her hand on my shoulder
came up and put her hand on my shoulder
came up and put her hand on my shoulder and I didn’t know what she said to me I
and I didn’t know what she said to me I
and I didn’t know what she said to me I mean you know tears coming in my eyes my
mean you know tears coming in my eyes my
mean you know tears coming in my eyes my nose just like one of the worst days of
nose just like one of the worst days of
nose just like one of the worst days of my life um and then you know what I woke
my life um and then you know what I woke
my life um and then you know what I woke up the next day and I just felt like I
up the next day and I just felt like I
up the next day and I just felt like I can’t quit oh that’s okay not quit I
can’t quit oh that’s okay not quit I
can’t quit oh that’s okay not quit I need to do this but the way that I had
need to do this but the way that I had
need to do this but the way that I had been doing it wasn’t working so I need
been doing it wasn’t working so I need
been doing it wasn’t working so I need to find a different way to stain I gotta
to find a different way to stain I gotta
to find a different way to stain I gotta find something else I gotta I gotta
find something else I gotta I gotta
find something else I gotta I gotta figure this out and just I don’t know
figure this out and just I don’t know
figure this out and just I don’t know something about me felt like I just I
something about me felt like I just I
something about me felt like I just I didn’t want to live with regret I didn’t
didn’t want to live with regret I didn’t
didn’t want to live with regret I didn’t want to quit and into my partner’s
want to quit and into my partner’s
want to quit and into my partner’s credit you know showed up the next day
credit you know showed up the next day
credit you know showed up the next day we worked out of his condo um and he
we worked out of his condo um and he
we worked out of his condo um and he didn’t he didn’t give me a hard time he
didn’t he didn’t give me a hard time he
didn’t he didn’t give me a hard time he didn’t say like oh you quit on me why
didn’t say like oh you quit on me why
didn’t say like oh you quit on me why are you here you know do you want to be
are you here you know do you want to be
are you here you know do you want to be a part of this he didn’t give me hearts
a part of this he didn’t give me hearts
a part of this he didn’t give me hearts and we just went back to work and that
and we just went back to work and that
and we just went back to work and that was that that was great on his part and
was that that was great on his part and
was that that was great on his part and I appreciate him for that uh what helped
I appreciate him for that uh what helped
I appreciate him for that uh what helped me we kind of get over it was realizing
me we kind of get over it was realizing
me we kind of get over it was realizing that I’m not the first guy to try to
that I’m not the first guy to try to
that I’m not the first guy to try to sell sophomore at the time um you know
sell sophomore at the time um you know
sell sophomore at the time um you know the main I’ve been I was in biotech
the main I’ve been I was in biotech
the main I’ve been I was in biotech software there wasn’t this huge biotech
software there wasn’t this huge biotech
software there wasn’t this huge biotech software company good luck up to but
software company good luck up to but
software company good luck up to but there were other software companies and
there were other software companies and
there were other software companies and I would try to model success and I
I would try to model success and I
I would try to model success and I thought hey somebody else has already
thought hey somebody else has already
thought hey somebody else has already figured this out how can I model that
figured this out how can I model that
figured this out how can I model that success to help me grow and I looked at
success to help me grow and I looked at
success to help me grow and I looked at Bill Gates from Microsoft and he had
Bill Gates from Microsoft and he had
Bill Gates from Microsoft and he had success in software like well how does
success in software like well how does
success in software like well how does he make how did he make his first
he make how did he make his first
he make how did he make his first milling right like not not how he makes
milling right like not not how he makes
milling right like not not how he makes money now
money now
money now because you know he’s make made a ton of
because you know he’s make made a ton of
because you know he’s make made a ton of money but like 0 to 1 how did they do
money but like 0 to 1 how did they do
money but like 0 to 1 how did they do that that’s what I wanted to how do i
that that’s what I wanted to how do i
that that’s what I wanted to how do i how do i get that i needed through
how do i get that i needed through
how do i get that i needed through forming alliances making partnerships
forming alliances making partnerships
forming alliances making partnerships and so I thought okay I know try that
and so I thought okay I know try that
and so I thought okay I know try that I’m not going to try to invent the wheel
I’m not going to try to invent the wheel
I’m not going to try to invent the wheel for everything i’m just going to apply
for everything i’m just going to apply
for everything i’m just going to apply that strategy and within a month or two
that strategy and within a month or two
that strategy and within a month or two I had my first partnership and they paid
I had my first partnership and they paid
I had my first partnership and they paid 13 and a half thousand dollars up front
13 and a half thousand dollars up front
13 and a half thousand dollars up front to me and man that felt good you know
to me and man that felt good you know
to me and man that felt good you know that’s that that may not be a lot of
that’s that that may not be a lot of
that’s that that may not be a lot of money but to me making three hundred
money but to me making three hundred
money but to me making three hundred dollars a month that that was like I hit
dollars a month that that was like I hit
dollars a month that that was like I hit the jackpot that was awesome and better
the jackpot that was awesome and better
the jackpot that was awesome and better than just having that money I had I had
than just having that money I had I had
than just having that money I had I had a strategy now that I can replicate I
a strategy now that I can replicate I
a strategy now that I can replicate I can go find other partners and make
can go find other partners and make
can go find other partners and make similar deals and that’s how we started
similar deals and that’s how we started
similar deals and that’s how we started turning the tide with the company and
turning the tide with the company and
turning the tide with the company and meet starting to feel like I had some
meet starting to feel like I had some
meet starting to feel like I had some self-worth again um but I guess I mean
self-worth again um but I guess I mean
self-worth again um but I guess I mean to come back to the questions just there
to come back to the questions just there
to come back to the questions just there was something inside of me feel like I
was something inside of me feel like I
was something inside of me feel like I can’t quit you know I don’t want to quit
can’t quit you know I don’t want to quit
can’t quit you know I don’t want to quit on this it’s too important I want to I
on this it’s too important I want to I
on this it’s too important I want to I want to ride it at I don’t know maybe it
want to ride it at I don’t know maybe it
want to ride it at I don’t know maybe it was crazy do you think you were always
was crazy do you think you were always
was crazy do you think you were always like that do you think what separates
like that do you think what separates
like that do you think what separates the people from that quit and then just
the people from that quit and then just
the people from that quit and then just go on to live a life of regret to from
go on to live a life of regret to from
go on to live a life of regret to from the people who keep moving forward even
the people who keep moving forward even
the people who keep moving forward even the face of what seems like failure yeah
the face of what seems like failure yeah
the face of what seems like failure yeah that’s a great question I’m enjoying
that’s a great question I’m enjoying
that’s a great question I’m enjoying this you have really like calm cool
this you have really like calm cool
this you have really like calm cool demeanor I’m thanking you know uh yeah
demeanor I’m thanking you know uh yeah
demeanor I’m thanking you know uh yeah yeah I’m excited for the podcast future
yeah I’m excited for the podcast future
yeah I’m excited for the podcast future I I quit on a lot of things actually I I
I I quit on a lot of things actually I I
I I quit on a lot of things actually I I i love doing small tests and if it’s not
i love doing small tests and if it’s not
i love doing small tests and if it’s not working out or if i’m not feeling if i
working out or if i’m not feeling if i
working out or if i’m not feeling if i quit and I’m totally okay with that I
quit and I’m totally okay with that I
quit and I’m totally okay with that I think it’s when I’m a stubborn person I
think it’s when I’m a stubborn person I
think it’s when I’m a stubborn person I can be really stubborn over big things
can be really stubborn over big things
can be really stubborn over big things over most like little things in life I
over most like little things in life I
over most like little things in life I don’t care you know my wife wants to
don’t care you know my wife wants to
don’t care you know my wife wants to watch movie what movie do much I don’t
watch movie what movie do much I don’t
watch movie what movie do much I don’t care what do you do me what do we got to
care what do you do me what do we got to
care what do you do me what do we got to dinner I don’t really care but some of
dinner I don’t really care but some of
dinner I don’t really care but some of the big things i can get super stubborn
the big things i can get super stubborn
the big things i can get super stubborn on and i hate i hate giving up on
on and i hate i hate giving up on
on and i hate i hate giving up on something that I’m really stubborn about
something that I’m really stubborn about
something that I’m really stubborn about um
um
um have I always been like that I think so
have I always been like that I think so
have I always been like that I think so you know what I want something it’s like
you know what I want something it’s like
you know what I want something it’s like blinders on and I go and chase it until
blinders on and I go and chase it until
blinders on and I go and chase it until it’s done but along the way like I’ll
it’s done but along the way like I’ll
it’s done but along the way like I’ll quit and a whole bunch of other things
quit and a whole bunch of other things
quit and a whole bunch of other things that just weren’t as important mm-hmm
that just weren’t as important mm-hmm
that just weren’t as important mm-hmm just about separating let’s import and
just about separating let’s import and
just about separating let’s import and what’s not important yeah I’m a big
what’s not important yeah I’m a big
what’s not important yeah I’m a big believer in following your flow right
believer in following your flow right
believer in following your flow right I’ve talked about a couple of times
I’ve talked about a couple of times
I’ve talked about a couple of times already um when you when you feel like
already um when you when you feel like
already um when you when you feel like you when you are doing something that
you when you are doing something that
you when you are doing something that makes you come alive whatever it is it’s
makes you come alive whatever it is it’s
makes you come alive whatever it is it’s making a podcast doing a painting doing
making a podcast doing a painting doing
making a podcast doing a painting doing business whatever it is when you feel
business whatever it is when you feel
business whatever it is when you feel like you’re in that zone and you feel
like you’re in that zone and you feel
like you’re in that zone and you feel alive you have to do that more and and
alive you have to do that more and and
alive you have to do that more and and most of the time when you first do it it
most of the time when you first do it it
most of the time when you first do it it doesn’t make sense like there’s no
doesn’t make sense like there’s no
doesn’t make sense like there’s no logical way to go and follow that path
logical way to go and follow that path
logical way to go and follow that path and that’s the hardest time to say yes
and that’s the hardest time to say yes
and that’s the hardest time to say yes because there’s like this safe path
because there’s like this safe path
because there’s like this safe path that’s lined out for you that everybody
that’s lined out for you that everybody
that’s lined out for you that everybody goes down that makes total sense but but
goes down that makes total sense but but
goes down that makes total sense but but isn’t exciting a challenging for you and
isn’t exciting a challenging for you and
isn’t exciting a challenging for you and then this is crazy path that everybody
then this is crazy path that everybody
then this is crazy path that everybody is too afraid to take that really
is too afraid to take that really
is too afraid to take that really excites you but there’s no safety net
excites you but there’s no safety net
excites you but there’s no safety net and nobody’s doing it and you know that
and nobody’s doing it and you know that
and nobody’s doing it and you know that that that’s too scary to go down I think
that that’s too scary to go down I think
that that’s too scary to go down I think we all have those moments where like we
we all have those moments where like we
we all have those moments where like we wish we could be out here but were we’re
wish we could be out here but were we’re
wish we could be out here but were we’re here I’ve always been about like I want
here I’ve always been about like I want
here I’ve always been about like I want to chase that and so going into the
to chase that and so going into the
to chase that and so going into the biotech software company when I had
biotech software company when I had
biotech software company when I had these big job offers seem crazy but it
these big job offers seem crazy but it
these big job offers seem crazy but it was what got me excited you know going
was what got me excited you know going
was what got me excited you know going to help entrepreneurs when I couldn’t
to help entrepreneurs when I couldn’t
to help entrepreneurs when I couldn’t get people to come up to a free event
get people to come up to a free event
get people to come up to a free event it’s crazy but I had to keep doing it
it’s crazy but I had to keep doing it
it’s crazy but I had to keep doing it because I loved it and so um I’ve tried
because I loved it and so um I’ve tried
because I loved it and so um I’ve tried to make that a theme i guess for my life
to make that a theme i guess for my life
to make that a theme i guess for my life I’m much more self aware of that now
I’m much more self aware of that now
I’m much more self aware of that now than I was before I was much more
than I was before I was much more
than I was before I was much more confused and those decisions I maybe I
confused and those decisions I maybe I
confused and those decisions I maybe I may be kind of glossed over those were
may be kind of glossed over those were
may be kind of glossed over those were hard decision saying no to those gods
hard decision saying no to those gods
hard decision saying no to those gods wasn’t just like oh yeah I’ll come back
wasn’t just like oh yeah I’ll come back
wasn’t just like oh yeah I’ll come back in a year no prob like that was heart
in a year no prob like that was heart
in a year no prob like that was heart wrenching that was really tough um I
wrenching that was really tough um I
wrenching that was really tough um I didn’t know if I was making the biggest
didn’t know if I was making the biggest
didn’t know if I was making the biggest mistake of my life you know uh now i’m
mistake of my life you know uh now i’m
mistake of my life you know uh now i’m much more self-aware and can be more
much more self-aware and can be more
much more self-aware and can be more proactive with it and whenever I’m in
proactive with it and whenever I’m in
proactive with it and whenever I’m in the flow on something or something I
the flow on something or something I
the flow on something or something I really want to try to do I just I just
really want to try to do I just I just
really want to try to do I just I just start and do it until I start until I
start and do it until I start until I
start and do it until I start until I the excitement and if I don’t lose the
the excitement and if I don’t lose the
the excitement and if I don’t lose the excitement to keep going so your company
excitement to keep going so your company
excitement to keep going so your company grew and grew and then you sold it right
grew and grew and then you sold it right
grew and grew and then you sold it right mmhmm yeah um a little little drink
mmhmm yeah um a little little drink
mmhmm yeah um a little little drink break um go ahead that’s good yeah so we
break um go ahead that’s good yeah so we
break um go ahead that’s good yeah so we you know we started laying in
you know we started laying in
you know we started laying in partnerships um I started doing a lot
partnerships um I started doing a lot
partnerships um I started doing a lot more media for the company we got we got
more media for the company we got we got
more media for the company we got we got big clients nasa johnson Johnson um in
big clients nasa johnson Johnson um in
big clients nasa johnson Johnson um in our industry there was you notice a lot
our industry there was you notice a lot
our industry there was you notice a lot of industries were they they consolidate
of industries were they they consolidate
of industries were they they consolidate where you get a few big players and then
where you get a few big players and then
where you get a few big players and then they start to expand a whole bunch of
they start to expand a whole bunch of
they start to expand a whole bunch of new startups coming industries kind of
new startups coming industries kind of
new startups coming industries kind of go in these waves like that and so what
go in these waves like that and so what
go in these waves like that and so what was happening in our industry at the
was happening in our industry at the
was happening in our industry at the time was comes consolidation so the big
time was comes consolidation so the big
time was comes consolidation so the big companies are climbing up all the little
companies are climbing up all the little
companies are climbing up all the little companies and so we had to make a
companies and so we had to make a
companies and so we had to make a decision do we want to try to stay
decision do we want to try to stay
decision do we want to try to stay independent stay being a little guy and
independent stay being a little guy and
independent stay being a little guy and ride it out until the next cycle that
ride it out until the next cycle that
ride it out until the next cycle that might be eight or ten years later or do
might be eight or ten years later or do
might be eight or ten years later or do we want to get bought out and join a
we want to get bought out and join a
we want to get bought out and join a bigger company and I actually wanted to
bigger company and I actually wanted to
bigger company and I actually wanted to stay I want to stay in fight like we
stay I want to stay in fight like we
stay I want to stay in fight like we were growing we had momentum we were
were growing we had momentum we were
were growing we had momentum we were kicking it up a gear we could do this
kicking it up a gear we could do this
kicking it up a gear we could do this we’ve got it but my business partner is
we’ve got it but my business partner is
we’ve got it but my business partner is one of one of their lifelong dreams I
one of one of their lifelong dreams I
one of one of their lifelong dreams I guess was to go to California um we’re
guess was to go to California um we’re
guess was to go to California um we’re based in Toronto Canada and you we can’t
based in Toronto Canada and you we can’t
based in Toronto Canada and you we can’t I can’t just pick up and move to
I can’t just pick up and move to
I can’t just pick up and move to California you know legally at least and
California you know legally at least and
California you know legally at least and so we had an opportunity to join a
so we had an opportunity to join a
so we had an opportunity to join a company that was based in California and
company that was based in California and
company that was based in California and that sponsored my partner’s to go and so
that sponsored my partner’s to go and so
that sponsored my partner’s to go and so that was our that you know how do you
that was our that you know how do you
that was our that you know how do you tell somebody no you can’t live your
tell somebody no you can’t live your
tell somebody no you can’t live your personal dream you have to stay in this
personal dream you have to stay in this
personal dream you have to stay in this business and so we ended up selling the
business and so we ended up selling the
business and so we ended up selling the company in California and they move
company in California and they move
company in California and they move there and I sit here when you started
there and I sit here when you started
there and I sit here when you started moving on to doing different ventures
moving on to doing different ventures
moving on to doing different ventures okay so you work with entrepreneurs now
okay so you work with entrepreneurs now
okay so you work with entrepreneurs now and one of the things that I think is
and one of the things that I think is
and one of the things that I think is really interesting about your message or
really interesting about your message or
really interesting about your message or what you tell people to do is you have
what you tell people to do is you have
what you tell people to do is you have the idea of having one word that
the idea of having one word that
the idea of having one word that encompasses the
encompasses the
encompasses the of the company could you talk a bit
of the company could you talk a bit
of the company could you talk a bit about that idea yeah um you know my
about that idea yeah um you know my
about that idea yeah um you know my board is here when the wall believe I
board is here when the wall believe I
board is here when the wall believe I think it’s I think most people don’t
think it’s I think most people don’t
think it’s I think most people don’t live there life on purpose I think
live there life on purpose I think
live there life on purpose I think people live their life reacting to the
people live their life reacting to the
people live their life reacting to the things around them and they end up being
things around them and they end up being
things around them and they end up being just a victim of their circumstances in
just a victim of their circumstances in
just a victim of their circumstances in their environment and if you look at
their environment and if you look at
their environment and if you look at most people you will be basically like
most people you will be basically like
most people you will be basically like your parents who will be basically like
your parents who will be basically like
your parents who will be basically like your friends and we’re constant living
your friends and we’re constant living
your friends and we’re constant living in reactionary mode where what I believe
in reactionary mode where what I believe
in reactionary mode where what I believe is is a there’s a single theme that
is is a there’s a single theme that
is is a there’s a single theme that combines everything that you like
combines everything that you like
combines everything that you like together and always have like together
together and always have like together
together and always have like together so if you look at what’s your favorite
so if you look at what’s your favorite
so if you look at what’s your favorite movie and what are your favorite songs
movie and what are your favorite songs
movie and what are your favorite songs and what do you like about your husband
and what do you like about your husband
and what do you like about your husband or your wife or your boyfriend and
or your wife or your boyfriend and
or your wife or your boyfriend and girlfriend or what did you love about
girlfriend or what did you love about
girlfriend or what did you love about your favorite teacher there’s a common
your favorite teacher there’s a common
your favorite teacher there’s a common theme that if you look at it unifies all
theme that if you look at it unifies all
theme that if you look at it unifies all of these things together for me it’s
of these things together for me it’s
of these things together for me it’s believed so you know my favorite movie
believed so you know my favorite movie
believed so you know my favorite movie is Seabiscuit I don’t know if you’ve
is Seabiscuit I don’t know if you’ve
is Seabiscuit I don’t know if you’ve seen see business yeah it’s about this
seen see business yeah it’s about this
seen see business yeah it’s about this horse and his jockey and his owner and
horse and his jockey and his owner and
horse and his jockey and his owner and everybody’s down on their luck and then
everybody’s down on their luck and then
everybody’s down on their luck and then they they come up and they rise and I’ve
they they come up and they rise and I’ve
they they come up and they rise and I’ve seen that movie no 25 times or something
seen that movie no 25 times or something
seen that movie no 25 times or something um I love that story i love the like you
um I love that story i love the like you
um I love that story i love the like you know parents told me your costs rally
know parents told me your costs rally
know parents told me your costs rally car mat that you can do anything i love
car mat that you can do anything i love
car mat that you can do anything i love i love instilling belief in others and I
i love instilling belief in others and I
i love instilling belief in others and I love trying to believe in myself to go
love trying to believe in myself to go
love trying to believe in myself to go and accomplish things and so now when
and accomplish things and so now when
and accomplish things and so now when you have that awareness of what you
you have that awareness of what you
you have that awareness of what you staying for and what your one word is
staying for and what your one word is
staying for and what your one word is and what your most important it’s
and what your most important it’s
and what your most important it’s basically your most important core value
basically your most important core value
basically your most important core value you can start to make decisions in your
you can start to make decisions in your
you can start to make decisions in your life and in your business if you’re
life and in your business if you’re
life and in your business if you’re dealing with entrepreneurs that’s much
dealing with entrepreneurs that’s much
dealing with entrepreneurs that’s much more proactive so you know as an example
more proactive so you know as an example
more proactive so you know as an example if I’m hiring somebody from my team i
if I’m hiring somebody from my team i
if I’m hiring somebody from my team i will lead with you know i’m looking for
will lead with you know i’m looking for
will lead with you know i’m looking for a believe programmer and then i explain
a believe programmer and then i explain
a believe programmer and then i explain what believe is all about because i want
what believe is all about because i want
what believe is all about because i want somebody who loves what this company is
somebody who loves what this company is
somebody who loves what this company is all about before the skill set where
all about before the skill set where
all about before the skill set where most people do the opposite so i need
most people do the opposite so i need
most people do the opposite so i need someone who can do PHP and throw up a
someone who can do PHP and throw up a
someone who can do PHP and throw up a website for me and yes they have all the
website for me and yes they have all the
website for me and yes they have all the skills but because that person isn’t
skills but because that person isn’t
skills but because that person isn’t aligned with what you stand for then
aligned with what you stand for then
aligned with what you stand for then it’s never going to be a fantastic
it’s never going to be a fantastic
it’s never going to be a fantastic relationship
relationship
relationship and so I’m a big believer in trying to
and so I’m a big believer in trying to
and so I’m a big believer in trying to get it down to that one word
get it down to that one word
get it down to that one word understanding what defines you and then
understanding what defines you and then
understanding what defines you and then use that as your compass use that as
use that as your compass use that as
use that as your compass use that as your like the lens through which you see
your like the lens through which you see
your like the lens through which you see the world so that you can make decisions
the world so that you can make decisions
the world so that you can make decisions more proactively and live a life on
more proactively and live a life on
more proactively and live a life on purpose instead of just being
purpose instead of just being
purpose instead of just being reactionary to other people’s beliefs
reactionary to other people’s beliefs
reactionary to other people’s beliefs okay you talk a lot about entrepreneurs
okay you talk a lot about entrepreneurs
okay you talk a lot about entrepreneurs not just chasing the money but following
not just chasing the money but following
not just chasing the money but following their passions and I know there’s a
their passions and I know there’s a
their passions and I know there’s a phrase that gets tossed around a lot
phrase that gets tossed around a lot
phrase that gets tossed around a lot online like follow your passion and the
online like follow your passion and the
online like follow your passion and the money will follow I just wonder what you
money will follow I just wonder what you
money will follow I just wonder what you think about that phrase yeah I agree if
think about that phrase yeah I agree if
think about that phrase yeah I agree if you look at famous entrepreneurs and and
you look at famous entrepreneurs and and
you look at famous entrepreneurs and and you know my how I got inserted in the
you know my how I got inserted in the
you know my how I got inserted in the Entrepreneurship world after was in
Entrepreneurship world after was in
Entrepreneurship world after was in profile and famous entrepreneurs or one
profile and famous entrepreneurs or one
profile and famous entrepreneurs or one of the largest collections of famous
of the largest collections of famous
of the largest collections of famous entrepreneur stories online a great
entrepreneur stories online a great
entrepreneur stories online a great collection look at if you look at why
collection look at if you look at why
collection look at if you look at why they started you watch their videos you
they started you watch their videos you
they started you watch their videos you listen to their speeches um money was
listen to their speeches um money was
listen to their speeches um money was never the most important thing uh no
never the most important thing uh no
never the most important thing uh no that’s not the money is important right
that’s not the money is important right
that’s not the money is important right like it’s not saying hey forget about
like it’s not saying hey forget about
like it’s not saying hey forget about money like we’re not doing charities
money like we’re not doing charities
money like we’re not doing charities here you have to make money but money is
here you have to make money but money is
here you have to make money but money is never the number one reason to start
never the number one reason to start
never the number one reason to start something if it is you’re gonna quit
something if it is you’re gonna quit
something if it is you’re gonna quit because whatever you do is going to get
because whatever you do is going to get
because whatever you do is going to get tough you’ll have moments of like I had
tough you’ll have moments of like I had
tough you’ll have moments of like I had with my business you’ll have you know
with my business you’ll have you know
with my business you’ll have you know just moments where you want to quit and
just moments where you want to quit and
just moments where you want to quit and give up and you the thing that pushes
give up and you the thing that pushes
give up and you the thing that pushes you through is because you love what
you through is because you love what
you through is because you love what you’re doing you want to have an impact
you’re doing you want to have an impact
you’re doing you want to have an impact you want to make a difference if you’re
you want to make a difference if you’re
you want to make a difference if you’re doing to just trying to make money then
doing to just trying to make money then
doing to just trying to make money then as soon as it gets hard you’re gonna
as soon as it gets hard you’re gonna
as soon as it gets hard you’re gonna move to something else and that’s what a
move to something else and that’s what a
move to something else and that’s what a lot of people do they start a business
lot of people do they start a business
lot of people do they start a business and others i can make tons of money here
and others i can make tons of money here
and others i can make tons of money here so they start they don’t make money it
so they start they don’t make money it
so they start they don’t make money it gets hard they quit they move on to
gets hard they quit they move on to
gets hard they quit they move on to something else and they keep chasing
something else and they keep chasing
something else and they keep chasing these little opportunities and they
these little opportunities and they
these little opportunities and they never hit it big where if you look at
never hit it big where if you look at
never hit it big where if you look at any another encourage you know your
any another encourage you know your
any another encourage you know your listeners look at any famous
listeners look at any famous
listeners look at any famous entrepreneur something you look up to
entrepreneur something you look up to
entrepreneur something you look up to and research their story you’ll always
and research their story you’ll always
and research their story you’ll always find that they had a genuine love for
find that they had a genuine love for
find that they had a genuine love for what they’re doing the examples Steve
what they’re doing the examples Steve
what they’re doing the examples Steve Jobs Apple you know one of the people I
Jobs Apple you know one of the people I
Jobs Apple you know one of the people I look up to
look up to
look up to he was a multi-millionaire in his early
he was a multi-millionaire in his early
he was a multi-millionaire in his early 20s he was worth a hundred million
20s he was worth a hundred million
20s he was worth a hundred million dollars in his mid-20s one hundred
dollars in his mid-20s one hundred
dollars in his mid-20s one hundred million dollars in your mid-twenties and
million dollars in your mid-twenties and
million dollars in your mid-twenties and yet he worked until the day that he died
yet he worked until the day that he died
yet he worked until the day that he died at apple and he built apple into
at apple and he built apple into
at apple and he built apple into becoming the most valuable company in
becoming the most valuable company in
becoming the most valuable company in the world according to market cap where
the world according to market cap where
the world according to market cap where his number one goal was never money um
his number one goal was never money um
his number one goal was never money um and that’s not just for business that’s
and that’s not just for business that’s
and that’s not just for business that’s anything you know you look at the people
anything you know you look at the people
anything you know you look at the people the top people in any industry if you if
the top people in any industry if you if
the top people in any industry if you if you just you know you don’t have the
you just you know you don’t have the
you just you know you don’t have the gumption to be an entrepreneur it’s not
gumption to be an entrepreneur it’s not
gumption to be an entrepreneur it’s not part of who you are you want to ride the
part of who you are you want to ride the
part of who you are you want to ride the corporate ladder you look at whoever is
corporate ladder you look at whoever is
corporate ladder you look at whoever is the CEO you look at the people who are
the CEO you look at the people who are
the CEO you look at the people who are in charge of these companies they love
in charge of these companies they love
in charge of these companies they love what they do like if you can have some
what they do like if you can have some
what they do like if you can have some success just basing off of your your
success just basing off of your your
success just basing off of your your talent but if you don’t have the heart
talent but if you don’t have the heart
talent but if you don’t have the heart you’re never going to rise to the top of
you’re never going to rise to the top of
you’re never going to rise to the top of your industry no matter what you’re
your industry no matter what you’re
your industry no matter what you’re doing and so when you’re following your
doing and so when you’re following your
doing and so when you’re following your passion and you’re invested into it
passion and you’re invested into it
passion and you’re invested into it you’re learning everything can about it
you’re learning everything can about it
you’re learning everything can about it then you’re going to create something of
then you’re going to create something of
then you’re going to create something of immense value for your industry for your
immense value for your industry for your
immense value for your industry for your market but that’s how you create tons of
market but that’s how you create tons of
market but that’s how you create tons of values because you genuinely care about
values because you genuinely care about
values because you genuinely care about making a difference and then if you
making a difference and then if you
making a difference and then if you provide a lot of value that’s how you
provide a lot of value that’s how you
provide a lot of value that’s how you make money money comes from providing
make money money comes from providing
make money money comes from providing value you wouldn’t provide you want to
value you wouldn’t provide you want to
value you wouldn’t provide you want to make a lot of money you got provided a
make a lot of money you got provided a
make a lot of money you got provided a lot of Audi right you want to make a lot
lot of Audi right you want to make a lot
lot of Audi right you want to make a lot of money quickly provide a lot of value
of money quickly provide a lot of value
of money quickly provide a lot of value quickly and then the question becomes
quickly and then the question becomes
quickly and then the question becomes okay that’s how do i make money how do i
okay that’s how do i make money how do i
okay that’s how do i make money how do i get to the point where i’m providing a
get to the point where i’m providing a
get to the point where i’m providing a lot of value and you very rarely find
lot of value and you very rarely find
lot of value and you very rarely find somebody who can provide immense over
somebody who can provide immense over
somebody who can provide immense over the top value who doesn’t actually love
the top value who doesn’t actually love
the top value who doesn’t actually love what they’re doing and so you know you
what they’re doing and so you know you
what they’re doing and so you know you can get to a certain point in life just
can get to a certain point in life just
can get to a certain point in life just five following the same path and you’ll
five following the same path and you’ll
five following the same path and you’ll make money and that’s that’s ninety
make money and that’s that’s ninety
make money and that’s that’s ninety percent of you know America you know
percent of you know America you know
percent of you know America you know they’re living for the evenings and
they’re living for the evenings and
they’re living for the evenings and weekends and they hate their jobs but it
weekends and they hate their jobs but it
weekends and they hate their jobs but it supports their lifestyle but you’ll
supports their lifestyle but you’ll
supports their lifestyle but you’ll never you’ll never get up here you’ll
never you’ll never get up here you’ll
never you’ll never get up here you’ll never have a huge impact if you’re not
never have a huge impact if you’re not
never have a huge impact if you’re not doing something that you absolutely love
doing something that you absolutely love
doing something that you absolutely love so what advice could you give to someone
so what advice could you give to someone
so what advice could you give to someone who is a new to entrepreneurship and
who is a new to entrepreneurship and
who is a new to entrepreneurship and they are not quite sure what their
they are not quite sure what their
they are not quite sure what their passion is yet
passion is yet
passion is yet or what that thing is that they should
or what that thing is that they should
or what that thing is that they should yeah um explore it’s super common like a
yeah um explore it’s super common like a
yeah um explore it’s super common like a lot of people don’t know what their
lot of people don’t know what their
lot of people don’t know what their passion is we’re never taught find your
passion is we’re never taught find your
passion is we’re never taught find your passion right where do you go to school
passion right where do you go to school
passion right where do you go to school for this I don’t know why we’re not
for this I don’t know why we’re not
for this I don’t know why we’re not taught this in school right probably the
taught this in school right probably the
taught this in school right probably the most important thing you’ll ever need in
most important thing you’ll ever need in
most important thing you’ll ever need in your life is not is not being taught and
your life is not is not being taught and
your life is not is not being taught and there’s some some people have families
there’s some some people have families
there’s some some people have families who are lucky enough where their parents
who are lucky enough where their parents
who are lucky enough where their parents might teach them but for the most part
might teach them but for the most part
might teach them but for the most part people have no idea and so the the best
people have no idea and so the the best
people have no idea and so the the best advice I can give is to explore and try
advice I can give is to explore and try
advice I can give is to explore and try things and say yes the things and see
things and say yes the things and see
things and say yes the things and see what you fall in love with and that
what you fall in love with and that
what you fall in love with and that often leads to business opportunities so
often leads to business opportunities so
often leads to business opportunities so a give you an example um I got invited
a give you an example um I got invited
a give you an example um I got invited to go rock climbing I what I said yes
to go rock climbing I what I said yes
to go rock climbing I what I said yes let’s do it I hated it things like the
let’s do it I hated it things like the
let’s do it I hated it things like the harness is in my crotch and I’m afraid
harness is in my crotch and I’m afraid
harness is in my crotch and I’m afraid of height saying just like no I’m back
of height saying just like no I’m back
of height saying just like no I’m back um so you will not get me rock climbing
um so you will not get me rock climbing
um so you will not get me rock climbing again but I said yes to try because you
again but I said yes to try because you
again but I said yes to try because you never know um I went snowboarding and I
never know um I went snowboarding and I
never know um I went snowboarding and I got I became obsessed with snowboarding
got I became obsessed with snowboarding
got I became obsessed with snowboarding for for like two years it was obsessed
for for like two years it was obsessed
for for like two years it was obsessed where I would go every day I would push
where I would go every day I would push
where I would go every day I would push off meetings to go snowboarding I China
off meetings to go snowboarding I China
off meetings to go snowboarding I China 45 minutes I can hit the hill and come
45 minutes I can hit the hill and come
45 minutes I can hit the hill and come back I was just I was obsessed and then
back I was just I was obsessed and then
back I was just I was obsessed and then my passion started to fall off well now
my passion started to fall off well now
my passion started to fall off well now go a couple times a year in the winter
go a couple times a year in the winter
go a couple times a year in the winter and it’s fine but it’s not like the
and it’s fine but it’s not like the
and it’s fine but it’s not like the obsession anymore and then there’s salsa
obsession anymore and then there’s salsa
obsession anymore and then there’s salsa dancing where I said yes it’s also
dancing where I said yes it’s also
dancing where I said yes it’s also dancing and and I fell in love with it
dancing and and I fell in love with it
dancing and and I fell in love with it and it’s been I don’t know 12 years now
and it’s been I don’t know 12 years now
and it’s been I don’t know 12 years now and i’m still super passionate about it
and i’m still super passionate about it
and i’m still super passionate about it i’ve invested in a salsa dancing school
i’ve invested in a salsa dancing school
i’ve invested in a salsa dancing school I met my wife through salsa dancing just
I met my wife through salsa dancing just
I met my wife through salsa dancing just become part of my life and my business
become part of my life and my business
become part of my life and my business and if you look at it on paper this is
and if you look at it on paper this is
and if you look at it on paper this is what most people do like they look at it
what most people do like they look at it
what most people do like they look at it on paper right like how does my how do
on paper right like how does my how do
on paper right like how does my how do my skills match up with where I could
my skills match up with where I could
my skills match up with where I could make money and you like do this little
make money and you like do this little
make money and you like do this little analytical chart um it almost never
analytical chart um it almost never
analytical chart um it almost never works out like that you know i went to a
works out like that you know i went to a
works out like that you know i went to a salsa class i said yes i fell in love
salsa class i said yes i fell in love
salsa class i said yes i fell in love with it on paper i’m not a great
with it on paper i’m not a great
with it on paper i’m not a great candidate for salsa you know like I’m 62
candidate for salsa you know like I’m 62
candidate for salsa you know like I’m 62 63 I’m too tall to take big steps I
63 I’m too tall to take big steps I
63 I’m too tall to take big steps I don’t speak Spanish I never heard the
don’t speak Spanish I never heard the
don’t speak Spanish I never heard the music
music
music before you know I’m learning as an adult
before you know I’m learning as an adult
before you know I’m learning as an adult there’s so many reasons why i would
there’s so many reasons why i would
there’s so many reasons why i would never be great at salsa that if i just
never be great at salsa that if i just
never be great at salsa that if i just look at on paper they forget it but it
look at on paper they forget it but it
look at on paper they forget it but it doesn’t factory in the heart because i
doesn’t factory in the heart because i
doesn’t factory in the heart because i went and i loved it and i fell in love
went and i loved it and i fell in love
went and i loved it and i fell in love with it and and then even then I didn’t
with it and and then even then I didn’t
with it and and then even then I didn’t know what’s going to be a business for
know what’s going to be a business for
know what’s going to be a business for me but um just by trying and continue to
me but um just by trying and continue to
me but um just by trying and continue to follow the things that i love i
follow the things that i love i
follow the things that i love i discovered that as an opportunity to
discovered that as an opportunity to
discovered that as an opportunity to then have a business I’m an investor in
then have a business I’m an investor in
then have a business I’m an investor in the largest salsa dance school in North
the largest salsa dance school in North
the largest salsa dance school in North America and so if you don’t know what
America and so if you don’t know what
America and so if you don’t know what your passion is explore try stuff say
your passion is explore try stuff say
your passion is explore try stuff say yes and see what you fall in love with
yes and see what you fall in love with
yes and see what you fall in love with and if you don’t like it you know like
and if you don’t like it you know like
and if you don’t like it you know like my rock climbing then dump it move on to
my rock climbing then dump it move on to
my rock climbing then dump it move on to something else and you may find
something else and you may find
something else and you may find something you like for a little bit like
something you like for a little bit like
something you like for a little bit like my snowboarding and then that doesn’t
my snowboarding and then that doesn’t
my snowboarding and then that doesn’t you know that’s not where you’re meant
you know that’s not where you’re meant
you know that’s not where you’re meant to be so fine dumping go find something
to be so fine dumping go find something
to be so fine dumping go find something else until you find the most people
else until you find the most people
else until you find the most people settle stop settling like if you if you
settle stop settling like if you if you
settle stop settling like if you if you wake up every day and you’re not excited
wake up every day and you’re not excited
wake up every day and you’re not excited and then lesson you gonna get excited
and then lesson you gonna get excited
and then lesson you gonna get excited every single day that’s not realistic
every single day that’s not realistic
every single day that’s not realistic but if you’re waking up and Hayden your
but if you’re waking up and Hayden your
but if you’re waking up and Hayden your life you know something is wrong you got
life you know something is wrong you got
life you know something is wrong you got it you got to fix something you got to
it you got to fix something you got to
it you got to fix something you got to find something to get you excited again
find something to get you excited again
find something to get you excited again and and just keep following that
and and just keep following that
and and just keep following that excitement to the leads you to a path
excitement to the leads you to a path
excitement to the leads you to a path that you can turn it into a business or
that you can turn it into a business or
that you can turn it into a business or you know this is it applies to every
you know this is it applies to every
you know this is it applies to every area of your life I think that advice is
area of your life I think that advice is
area of your life I think that advice is so right on because so many times I see
so right on because so many times I see
so right on because so many times I see people getting paralyzed because they’re
people getting paralyzed because they’re
people getting paralyzed because they’re just looking for the one perfect thing
just looking for the one perfect thing
just looking for the one perfect thing but you don’t know if something’s going
but you don’t know if something’s going
but you don’t know if something’s going to be right for you or not till you try
to be right for you or not till you try
to be right for you or not till you try it and sometimes you have to try lots of
it and sometimes you have to try lots of
it and sometimes you have to try lots of different things before we find that
different things before we find that
different things before we find that thing that’s right but you can always
thing that’s right but you can always
thing that’s right but you can always change your mind yeah and I would
change your mind yeah and I would
change your mind yeah and I would encourage people to do a lot of small
encourage people to do a lot of small
encourage people to do a lot of small starts yeah um a lot of people they have
starts yeah um a lot of people they have
starts yeah um a lot of people they have this dream like here onion I want to do
this dream like here onion I want to do
this dream like here onion I want to do this and they shelve it because it costs
this and they shelve it because it costs
this and they shelve it because it costs too much money or it’ll take too much
too much money or it’ll take too much
too much money or it’ll take too much time they don’t the resources in with
time they don’t the resources in with
time they don’t the resources in with education of the training all of these
education of the training all of these
education of the training all of these you know hurdles they put in front of
you know hurdles they put in front of
you know hurdles they put in front of them or then maybe they go all in on it
them or then maybe they go all in on it
them or then maybe they go all in on it because they now is my time I’m going to
because they now is my time I’m going to
because they now is my time I’m going to try it but it wasn’t the right
try it but it wasn’t the right
try it but it wasn’t the right opportunity for them don’t make it this
opportunity for them don’t make it this
opportunity for them don’t make it this big step start here start tiny start
big step start here start tiny start
big step start here start tiny start small um
small um
small um samples mean making my youtube channel
samples mean making my youtube channel
samples mean making my youtube channel now right we have almost 100,000
now right we have almost 100,000
now right we have almost 100,000 subscribers who hit that there any of
subscribers who hit that there any of
subscribers who hit that there any of the month over 10 million views but in a
the month over 10 million views but in a
the month over 10 million views but in a month I when I started it it was you
month I when I started it it was you
month I when I started it it was you know I could have gone out and said okay
know I could have gone out and said okay
know I could have gone out and said okay well I need the gear I need to have a
well I need the gear I need to have a
well I need the gear I need to have a camera I need to have a tripod and the
camera I need to have a tripod and the
camera I need to have a tripod and the lighting I need to have the background
lighting I need to have the background
lighting I need to have the background and just add up all these costs I could
and just add up all these costs I could
and just add up all these costs I could have done one episode and feel like yeah
have done one episode and feel like yeah
have done one episode and feel like yeah you know what I don’t want to do this
you know what I don’t want to do this
you know what I don’t want to do this and that’s what a lot of people do they
and that’s what a lot of people do they
and that’s what a lot of people do they I’m going to start a t-shirt business
I’m going to start a t-shirt business
I’m going to start a t-shirt business and they order 5,000 t-shirts with with
and they order 5,000 t-shirts with with
and they order 5,000 t-shirts with with their new design that’s going to be the
their new design that’s going to be the
their new design that’s going to be the next big thing and it doesn’t sell and
next big thing and it doesn’t sell and
next big thing and it doesn’t sell and then they lose their passion they have
then they lose their passion they have
then they lose their passion they have 5,000 t-shirts sitting in the garage
5,000 t-shirts sitting in the garage
5,000 t-shirts sitting in the garage what do you want to do is instead of
what do you want to do is instead of
what do you want to do is instead of like going all-in or making it this big
like going all-in or making it this big
like going all-in or making it this big step that you’re too afraid to go and
step that you’re too afraid to go and
step that you’re too afraid to go and take find like the smallest simplest
take find like the smallest simplest
take find like the smallest simplest thing that you can do to get started now
thing that you can do to get started now
thing that you can do to get started now as a test don’t put so much pressure on
as a test don’t put so much pressure on
as a test don’t put so much pressure on yourself to make it be the next huge
yourself to make it be the next huge
yourself to make it be the next huge thing just explore and then if you like
thing just explore and then if you like
thing just explore and then if you like that take one more step one more step
that take one more step one more step
that take one more step one more step and then all of a sudden like to realize
and then all of a sudden like to realize
and then all of a sudden like to realize that you’ve taken a huge step forward by
that you’ve taken a huge step forward by
that you’ve taken a huge step forward by taking tons of little steps yeah I think
taking tons of little steps yeah I think
taking tons of little steps yeah I think your YouTube channel is a great example
your YouTube channel is a great example
your YouTube channel is a great example cuz didn’t you start that because you
cuz didn’t you start that because you
cuz didn’t you start that because you were not very good at speaking in front
were not very good at speaking in front
were not very good at speaking in front of people or speaking I can’t remember I
of people or speaking I can’t remember I
of people or speaking I can’t remember I saw a story like a video that you made
saw a story like a video that you made
saw a story like a video that you made about why you started the channel
about why you started the channel
about why you started the channel originally yeah so if you go way back on
originally yeah so if you go way back on
originally yeah so if you go way back on the channel um it’s it’s all famous
the channel um it’s it’s all famous
the channel um it’s it’s all famous entrepreneur stories because my mantra
entrepreneur stories because my mantra
entrepreneur stories because my mantra became after I learned from bill gates
became after I learned from bill gates
became after I learned from bill gates and that helped my business it became I
and that helped my business it became I
and that helped my business it became I want to help I want to study other
want to help I want to study other
want to help I want to study other successful entrepreneurs and then share
successful entrepreneurs and then share
successful entrepreneurs and then share that with people who haven’t done the
that with people who haven’t done the
that with people who haven’t done the research and I’m a visual learner so I
research and I’m a visual learner so I
research and I’m a visual learner so I found like be better for me to make
found like be better for me to make
found like be better for me to make videos then just to read about a story
videos then just to read about a story
videos then just to read about a story and for a while I did it all myself and
and for a while I did it all myself and
and for a while I did it all myself and and I you know I wasn’t very good I
and I you know I wasn’t very good I
and I you know I wasn’t very good I sucked at the start I mean I almost want
sucked at the start I mean I almost want
sucked at the start I mean I almost want to remove those videos at the start
to remove those videos at the start
to remove those videos at the start they’re still there you can go back
they’re still there you can go back
they’re still there you can go back these still good views and comments and
these still good views and comments and
these still good views and comments and people like them and I think you’re
people like them and I think you’re
people like them and I think you’re always going to be you’re your own worst
always going to be you’re your own worst
always going to be you’re your own worst critic and you look at your own work and
critic and you look at your own work and
critic and you look at your own work and say man I could have done this better so
say man I could have done this better so
say man I could have done this better so many different ways um even look at my
many different ways um even look at my
many different ways um even look at my channel now look at look at what I’m
channel now look at look at what I’m
channel now look at look at what I’m doing now six months ago right like I
doing now six months ago right like I
doing now six months ago right like I started my channel maybe six years ago
started my channel maybe six years ago
started my channel maybe six years ago but you
but you
but you just look at how we’ve grown in the past
just look at how we’ve grown in the past
just look at how we’ve grown in the past six months and you’ll notice a quality
six months and you’ll notice a quality
six months and you’ll notice a quality difference because I’m putting in work
difference because I’m putting in work
difference because I’m putting in work time effort right I’ve recorded 2,500
time effort right I’ve recorded 2,500
time effort right I’ve recorded 2,500 videos because I love it and so you get
videos because I love it and so you get
videos because I love it and so you get better each time that you do it but the
better each time that you do it but the
better each time that you do it but the start was just I want to share this I’m
start was just I want to share this I’m
start was just I want to share this I’m a visual learner i want to put these
a visual learner i want to put these
a visual learner i want to put these stories up and i’ll see if i like it and
stories up and i’ll see if i like it and
stories up and i’ll see if i like it and I did and then I kept doing it and along
I did and then I kept doing it and along
I did and then I kept doing it and along the way like there were hundreds of
the way like there were hundreds of
the way like there were hundreds of other things that I tried that didn’t go
other things that I tried that didn’t go
other things that I tried that didn’t go anywhere because it wasn’t for me yeah
anywhere because it wasn’t for me yeah
anywhere because it wasn’t for me yeah it’s a great example of just starting
it’s a great example of just starting
it’s a great example of just starting small and then it builds and builds as
small and then it builds and builds as
small and then it builds and builds as you see that you you like it and you
you see that you you like it and you
you see that you you like it and you want to continue and the videos are
want to continue and the videos are
want to continue and the videos are wonderful i watch the videos all the
wonderful i watch the videos all the
wonderful i watch the videos all the sides cool well now you’re in one yeah
sides cool well now you’re in one yeah
sides cool well now you’re in one yeah all right well thank you so much for
all right well thank you so much for
all right well thank you so much for joining us for the show and you want to
joining us for the show and you want to
joining us for the show and you want to just tell the listeners where they can
just tell the listeners where they can
just tell the listeners where they can find you in line yeah um I’m you have a
find you in line yeah um I’m you have a
find you in line yeah um I’m you have a website Emma comical com or if you want
website Emma comical com or if you want
website Emma comical com or if you want to get the YouTube channel you could
to get the YouTube channel you could
to get the YouTube channel you could just type in Evan Carmichael in Google
just type in Evan Carmichael in Google
just type in Evan Carmichael in Google you’ll find a whole bunch of stuff all
you’ll find a whole bunch of stuff all
you’ll find a whole bunch of stuff all right it’s been great great thanks for
right it’s been great great thanks for
right it’s been great great thanks for having me alright so that’s it for luck
having me alright so that’s it for luck
having me alright so that’s it for luck we got a bunch of questions coming in to
we got a bunch of questions coming in to
we got a bunch of questions coming in to all right so I guess you could end it
all right so I guess you could end it
all right so I guess you could end it there or we can continue on for your
there or we can continue on for your
there or we can continue on for your podcast if you want um okay so red red
podcast if you want um okay so red red
podcast if you want um okay so red red key is asking I want to know how you
key is asking I want to know how you
key is asking I want to know how you hang the procrastination I want to get
hang the procrastination I want to get
hang the procrastination I want to get better in life your videos helped me a
better in life your videos helped me a
better in life your videos helped me a lot procrastination you have thoughts
don’t do it no I do have a thought
don’t do it no I do have a thought though and this is just about being kind
though and this is just about being kind
though and this is just about being kind to yourself because a lot of times we do
to yourself because a lot of times we do
to yourself because a lot of times we do have something that we do wrong and we
have something that we do wrong and we
have something that we do wrong and we beat ourselves up about it you get very
beat ourselves up about it you get very
beat ourselves up about it you get very quick self-critical and I’ve been
quick self-critical and I’ve been
quick self-critical and I’ve been reading a lot recently about self
reading a lot recently about self
reading a lot recently about self compassion and how self-compassion
compassion and how self-compassion
compassion and how self-compassion actually motivates you more than being
actually motivates you more than being
actually motivates you more than being critical of yourself and there’s
critical of yourself and there’s
critical of yourself and there’s actually a study done of students
actually a study done of students
actually a study done of students who I think it was done at the
who I think it was done at the
who I think it was done at the University of California Berkeley and a
University of California Berkeley and a
University of California Berkeley and a one group of students who have problems
one group of students who have problems
one group of students who have problems with procrastination were giving
with procrastination were giving
with procrastination were giving instructions to be compassionate with
instructions to be compassionate with
instructions to be compassionate with themselves when they found themselves
themselves when they found themselves
themselves when they found themselves can craft a navy and then another group
can craft a navy and then another group
can craft a navy and then another group was they weren’t given these
was they weren’t given these
was they weren’t given these instructions and what happened over the
instructions and what happened over the
instructions and what happened over the course of the semester is they found
course of the semester is they found
course of the semester is they found that the students that were taught
that the students that were taught
that the students that were taught self-compassion procrastinated less as a
self-compassion procrastinated less as a
self-compassion procrastinated less as a semester put on why the students who
semester put on why the students who
semester put on why the students who weren’t taught that actually
weren’t taught that actually
weren’t taught that actually progressively got worse with their
progressively got worse with their
progressively got worse with their procrastination as is faster than on
procrastination as is faster than on
procrastination as is faster than on cool i like it see I knew you had like a
cool i like it see I knew you had like a
cool i like it see I knew you had like a nice vibe you know the compassion of
nice vibe you know the compassion of
nice vibe you know the compassion of ivett school um yeah I love that
ivett school um yeah I love that
ivett school um yeah I love that actually I haven’t heard that before
actually I haven’t heard that before
actually I haven’t heard that before that’s a nice little curveball for me I
that’s a nice little curveball for me I
that’s a nice little curveball for me I like it um i would add to that to create
like it um i would add to that to create
like it um i would add to that to create an environment that supports you I find
an environment that supports you I find
an environment that supports you I find a lot of people a lot of people find it
a lot of people a lot of people find it
a lot of people a lot of people find it may be hard to be internally motivated
may be hard to be internally motivated
may be hard to be internally motivated and they need kind of like a external
and they need kind of like a external
and they need kind of like a external stimulus to help them get going um and
stimulus to help them get going um and
stimulus to help them get going um and that maybe like listening to your
that maybe like listening to your
that maybe like listening to your podcast but maybe that happens at six
podcast but maybe that happens at six
podcast but maybe that happens at six o’clock on a Friday evening and then
o’clock on a Friday evening and then
o’clock on a Friday evening and then it’s like oh wow that’s so great and
it’s like oh wow that’s so great and
it’s like oh wow that’s so great and you’re off like working like crazy and
you’re off like working like crazy and
you’re off like working like crazy and then you wake up and from scratch again
then you wake up and from scratch again
then you wake up and from scratch again least I found that was me you know i
least I found that was me you know i
least I found that was me you know i could get super excited because i watch
could get super excited because i watch
could get super excited because i watch a video or just got an idea and i’m off
a video or just got an idea and i’m off
a video or just got an idea and i’m off to the races and then the next day I
to the races and then the next day I
to the races and then the next day I wake up and it’s gone I feel like I’m
wake up and it’s gone I feel like I’m
wake up and it’s gone I feel like I’m starting over uh-uh and so I believe
starting over uh-uh and so I believe
starting over uh-uh and so I believe that people’s environments hold them
that people’s environments hold them
that people’s environments hold them where they are and if you want to have
where they are and if you want to have
where they are and if you want to have if you want to do something great you
if you want to do something great you
if you want to do something great you need to have an environment that
need to have an environment that
need to have an environment that supports greatness so you know there’s a
supports greatness so you know there’s a
supports greatness so you know there’s a reason why this is on the wall is the
reason why this is on the wall is the
reason why this is on the wall is the reason why i like this guy is here and i
reason why i like this guy is here and i
reason why i like this guy is here and i try to do things in the morning that set
try to do things in the morning that set
try to do things in the morning that set me up for success yeah i get to go like
me up for success yeah i get to go like
me up for success yeah i get to go like having that routine whether it’s
having that routine whether it’s
having that routine whether it’s watching videos whether it’s reading the
watching videos whether it’s reading the
watching videos whether it’s reading the blog whether it’s listen to podcast
blog whether it’s listen to podcast
blog whether it’s listen to podcast whether it’s whatever find out what
whether it’s whatever find out what
whether it’s whatever find out what makes you tick and gets you going gets
makes you tick and gets you going gets
makes you tick and gets you going gets your juices flowing and then schedule
your juices flowing and then schedule
your juices flowing and then schedule that every day in the morning to start
that every day in the morning to start
that every day in the morning to start you off
you off
you off well instead of just randomly having it
well instead of just randomly having it
well instead of just randomly having it happen to you and then you’re on fire
happen to you and then you’re on fire
happen to you and then you’re on fire one day um and it you know it doesn’t
one day um and it you know it doesn’t
one day um and it you know it doesn’t work one hundred percent of the time but
work one hundred percent of the time but
work one hundred percent of the time but I found that for me really helped set up
I found that for me really helped set up
I found that for me really helped set up my days much more for success um just
my days much more for success um just
my days much more for success um just one more thing yeah also this is
one more thing yeah also this is
one more thing yeah also this is something that I do sometimes I actually
something that I do sometimes I actually
something that I do sometimes I actually don’t do it all the time but I didn’t do
don’t do it all the time but I didn’t do
don’t do it all the time but I didn’t do do it sometimes to remind myself is I
do it sometimes to remind myself is I
do it sometimes to remind myself is I will create a little event at the
will create a little event at the
will create a little event at the beginning of the day my google calendar
beginning of the day my google calendar
beginning of the day my google calendar i’ll just write a reminder to myself why
i’ll just write a reminder to myself why
i’ll just write a reminder to myself why I’m doing what I do and then that could
I’m doing what I do and then that could
I’m doing what I do and then that could email to me when I get email my schedule
email to me when I get email my schedule
email to me when I get email my schedule because that’s there and then I so I
because that’s there and then I so I
because that’s there and then I so I received that email and it’s a reminder
received that email and it’s a reminder
received that email and it’s a reminder to me of why I’m doing all the work I do
to me of why I’m doing all the work I do
to me of why I’m doing all the work I do cool yeah I love it remember your why um
cool yeah I love it remember your why um
cool yeah I love it remember your why um Elias hey Evan did you get my men’s long
Elias hey Evan did you get my men’s long
Elias hey Evan did you get my men’s long message no we did not Elias maybe you
message no we did not Elias maybe you
message no we did not Elias maybe you can shrink it down and send uh Vivek is
can shrink it down and send uh Vivek is
can shrink it down and send uh Vivek is writing in I want this I want to be a
writing in I want this I want to be a
writing in I want this I want to be a speaker I just want he’s 22 years old
speaker I just want he’s 22 years old
speaker I just want he’s 22 years old doesn’t want to have get a job once we
doesn’t want to have get a job once we
doesn’t want to have get a job once we hope book speaking he has an idea but
hope book speaking he has an idea but
hope book speaking he has an idea but he’s scared to go ahead what do you
he’s scared to go ahead what do you
he’s scared to go ahead what do you think have you heard of Toastmasters
think have you heard of Toastmasters
think have you heard of Toastmasters International mm-hmm because I used to
International mm-hmm because I used to
International mm-hmm because I used to be incredibly shy and terrified to speak
be incredibly shy and terrified to speak
be incredibly shy and terrified to speak to anyone I joined Toastmasters
to anyone I joined Toastmasters
to anyone I joined Toastmasters International and that really helped me
International and that really helped me
International and that really helped me be able to do something like this like I
be able to do something like this like I
be able to do something like this like I would not have been able to do this
would not have been able to do this
would not have been able to do this podcast a year ago because I was so shy
podcast a year ago because I was so shy
podcast a year ago because I was so shy and afraid of talking in front of people
and afraid of talking in front of people
and afraid of talking in front of people are talking to people and when i started
are talking to people and when i started
are talking to people and when i started Toastmasters but the first time I got
Toastmasters but the first time I got
Toastmasters but the first time I got called to the front and do a speech I
called to the front and do a speech I
called to the front and do a speech I just did their silent and terrified but
just did their silent and terrified but
just did their silent and terrified but then having that practice doing it every
then having that practice doing it every
then having that practice doing it every week really helped me develop the
week really helped me develop the
week really helped me develop the ability to speak in front of people and
ability to speak in front of people and
ability to speak in front of people and to be able to do that and then once you
to be able to do that and then once you
to be able to do that and then once you get that ability to try to speak and be
get that ability to try to speak and be
get that ability to try to speak and be able to speak in front of people you can
able to speak in front of people you can
able to speak in front of people you can look for more opportunities in your
look for more opportunities in your
look for more opportunities in your local area there are opportunities all
local area there are opportunities all
local area there are opportunities all around there are lake chamber of
around there are lake chamber of
around there are lake chamber of commerce and different association
commerce and different association
commerce and different association and things that will let you come speak
and things that will let you come speak
and things that will let you come speak to them most of the time that won’t be
to them most of the time that won’t be
to them most of the time that won’t be pay but it will be good practice for
pay but it will be good practice for
pay but it will be good practice for getting up in front of people and
getting up in front of people and
getting up in front of people and getting that experience yeah I love it I
getting that experience yeah I love it I
getting that experience yeah I love it I honestly the more practice you can get
honestly the more practice you can get
honestly the more practice you can get the butter going to place like
the butter going to place like
the butter going to place like Toastmasters where you can model success
Toastmasters where you can model success
Toastmasters where you can model success right learn from people who are better
right learn from people who are better
right learn from people who are better than you you know accelerate your
than you you know accelerate your
than you you know accelerate your learning I’d also suggest starting a
learning I’d also suggest starting a
learning I’d also suggest starting a YouTube channel in practice speaking i
YouTube channel in practice speaking i
YouTube channel in practice speaking i remember in mic so you know in my first
remember in mic so you know in my first
remember in mic so you know in my first videos i used to have to have I had a
videos i used to have to have I had a
videos i used to have to have I had a DSLR camera that did not out of focus so
DSLR camera that did not out of focus so
DSLR camera that did not out of focus so used to have to have somebody on my team
used to have to have somebody on my team
used to have to have somebody on my team or my sister come in and focus me leave
or my sister come in and focus me leave
or my sister come in and focus me leave the room because I was too nervous to do
the room because I was too nervous to do
the room because I was too nervous to do it in front of them and then and then I
it in front of them and then and then I
it in front of them and then and then I could start recording in and do my thing
could start recording in and do my thing
could start recording in and do my thing um because I was just too afraid too
um because I was just too afraid too
um because I was just too afraid too nervous too scared uh and then it built
nervous too scared uh and then it built
nervous too scared uh and then it built up to the point our like whatever I
up to the point our like whatever I
up to the point our like whatever I don’t care who’s here doesn’t matter
don’t care who’s here doesn’t matter
don’t care who’s here doesn’t matter right you know loveland wanted to do a
right you know loveland wanted to do a
right you know loveland wanted to do a skype interview so let’s do a video um
skype interview so let’s do a video um
skype interview so let’s do a video um so with honestly that scared me oh my
so with honestly that scared me oh my
so with honestly that scared me oh my goodness people are going to see what I
goodness people are going to see what I
goodness people are going to see what I look like this is going to be horrible
look like this is going to be horrible
look like this is going to be horrible what am I going to do but then it’s by
what am I going to do but then it’s by
what am I going to do but then it’s by just pushing yourself forward into that
just pushing yourself forward into that
just pushing yourself forward into that thing that makes you uncomfortable like
thing that makes you uncomfortable like
thing that makes you uncomfortable like on the other side there could be
on the other side there could be
on the other side there could be something that is your passion or that
something that is your passion or that
something that is your passion or that will help you move forward into what
will help you move forward into what
will help you move forward into what your potential is so it’s great that who
your potential is so it’s great that who
your potential is so it’s great that who is the person who asked the question
is the person who asked the question
is the person who asked the question emma lemac yeah it was great that um to
emma lemac yeah it was great that um to
emma lemac yeah it was great that um to uh it’s great that this was it wanted to
uh it’s great that this was it wanted to
uh it’s great that this was it wanted to wants to go forward this public speaking
wants to go forward this public speaking
wants to go forward this public speaking even though there’s some kind of fear
even though there’s some kind of fear
even though there’s some kind of fear there because moving forward into that
there because moving forward into that
there because moving forward into that fear will help you progress yeah and i
fear will help you progress yeah and i
fear will help you progress yeah and i love that point you know fear is normal
love that point you know fear is normal
love that point you know fear is normal a lot of people try to avoid fear you’re
a lot of people try to avoid fear you’re
a lot of people try to avoid fear you’re never going to avoid fear uh it’s
never going to avoid fear uh it’s
never going to avoid fear uh it’s feeling the fear and doing it any anyway
feeling the fear and doing it any anyway
feeling the fear and doing it any anyway going forward with it and I think just
going forward with it and I think just
going forward with it and I think just breaking it down the smaller chunks ah
make a youtube video is an easy way to
make a youtube video is an easy way to get started and it builds the muscle it
get started and it builds the muscle it
get started and it builds the muscle it builds the muscle builds muscles get
builds the muscle builds muscles get
builds the muscle builds muscles get stronger you get better um I’m gonna
stronger you get better um I’m gonna
stronger you get better um I’m gonna give a random I don’t know why I’m just
give a random I don’t know why I’m just
give a random I don’t know why I’m just gonna give a random gaming analogy and
gonna give a random gaming analogy and
gonna give a random gaming analogy and this is part of another thing like what
this is part of another thing like what
this is part of another thing like what comes into your head say it like express
comes into your head say it like express
comes into your head say it like express it for because it’s probably gonna lead
it for because it’s probably gonna lead
it for because it’s probably gonna lead somewhere I play league of legends it’s
somewhere I play league of legends it’s
somewhere I play league of legends it’s a video game I don’t know if you’ve
a video game I don’t know if you’ve
a video game I don’t know if you’ve heard of it or play it and it’s a it’s a
heard of it or play it and it’s a it’s a
heard of it or play it and it’s a it’s a game where you have five people on your
game where you have five people on your
game where you have five people on your team so you and four people and then
team so you and four people and then
team so you and four people and then five people on the other team and when I
five people on the other team and when I
five people on the other team and when I started playing it it was always against
started playing it it was always against
started playing it it was always against robots so you’re with four people
robots so you’re with four people
robots so you’re with four people against robot players and I have a
against robot players and I have a
against robot players and I have a personal fear of letting people down I
personal fear of letting people down I
personal fear of letting people down I hate letting people down it’s why it’s a
hate letting people down it’s why it’s a
hate letting people down it’s why it’s a weakness and a strength it’s why over
weakness and a strength it’s why over
weakness and a strength it’s why over delivered you know I’ll do way more than
delivered you know I’ll do way more than
delivered you know I’ll do way more than it’s expected because I don’t want to
it’s expected because I don’t want to
it’s expected because I don’t want to let somebody down it’s why I’m never
let somebody down it’s why I’m never
let somebody down it’s why I’m never late for meetings or anything else
late for meetings or anything else
late for meetings or anything else because I I don’t want anybody to be let
because I I don’t want anybody to be let
because I I don’t want anybody to be let down I don’t know where that comes from
down I don’t know where that comes from
down I don’t know where that comes from but um anyway so I always played this
but um anyway so I always played this
but um anyway so I always played this game me and for people and that’s
game me and for people and that’s
game me and for people and that’s already like scary enough because I
already like scary enough because I
already like scary enough because I don’t want to let my team down right I
don’t want to let my team down right I
don’t want to let my team down right I don’t want to do something in the game
don’t want to do something in the game
don’t want to do something in the game that we lose because it’s on me um one
that we lose because it’s on me um one
that we lose because it’s on me um one of the players asked me to be his friend
of the players asked me to be his friend
of the players asked me to be his friend and then invites me to another game like
and then invites me to another game like
and then invites me to another game like yeah yeah sure why not this blitz play
yeah yeah sure why not this blitz play
yeah yeah sure why not this blitz play and I noticed that there’s 10 people
and I noticed that there’s 10 people
and I noticed that there’s 10 people queuing up instead of five gonna be
queuing up instead of five gonna be
queuing up instead of five gonna be going against people not against robots
going against people not against robots
going against people not against robots and and it just freaked me out the first
and and it just freaked me out the first
and and it just freaked me out the first time um like oh my god I’m not ready for
time um like oh my god I’m not ready for
time um like oh my god I’m not ready for this whatever let my team down holy cow
this whatever let my team down holy cow
this whatever let my team down holy cow I was like having a panic attack when we
I was like having a panic attack when we
I was like having a panic attack when we were getting into the game and then it
were getting into the game and then it
were getting into the game and then it was like it was okay it was fine it was
was like it was okay it was fine it was
was like it was okay it was fine it was it worked and now like I never play
it worked and now like I never play
it worked and now like I never play against robots Harris played with people
against robots Harris played with people
against robots Harris played with people and so like that scariness help stretch
and so like that scariness help stretch
and so like that scariness help stretch your comfort zone so that you can do it
your comfort zone so that you can do it
your comfort zone so that you can do it more and do greater and bigger things
more and do greater and bigger things
more and do greater and bigger things you know I often secretly have a little
you know I often secretly have a little
you know I often secretly have a little thing inside my head that like witches
thing inside my head that like witches
thing inside my head that like witches people would cancel on me before
people would cancel on me before
people would cancel on me before something big that scares me I remember
something big that scares me I remember
something big that scares me I remember both speaking in Brunei and they can you
both speaking in Brunei and they can you
both speaking in Brunei and they can you come
come
come speaking for nine was like a couple
speaking for nine was like a couple
speaking for nine was like a couple months away yeah I no problem sure no
months away yeah I no problem sure no
months away yeah I no problem sure no problem and then we’re getting close to
problem and then we’re getting close to
problem and then we’re getting close to there oh my god i go to speaking Brunei
there oh my god i go to speaking Brunei
there oh my god i go to speaking Brunei and a good national television and like
and a good national television and like
and a good national television and like the royal family is gonna be there and
the royal family is gonna be there and
the royal family is gonna be there and I’ll starting to freak out and kind of
I’ll starting to freak out and kind of
I’ll starting to freak out and kind of secretly wished they would call me and
secretly wished they would call me and
secretly wished they would call me and say Evan you know what we can’t sit the
say Evan you know what we can’t sit the
say Evan you know what we can’t sit the event like oh great perfect no problem
event like oh great perfect no problem
event like oh great perfect no problem awesome um because I’m you know I have a
awesome um because I’m you know I have a
awesome um because I’m you know I have a fear of letting people down in the
fear of letting people down in the
fear of letting people down in the audience like what if I’m not good
audience like what if I’m not good
audience like what if I’m not good enough you know like they paid me to go
enough you know like they paid me to go
enough you know like they paid me to go there I want to make sure it’s crazy
there I want to make sure it’s crazy
there I want to make sure it’s crazy value um I know it went it went really
value um I know it went it went really
value um I know it went it went really well obviously or maybe not but I went
well obviously or maybe not but I went
well obviously or maybe not but I went and went very well and that that lets me
and went very well and that that lets me
and went very well and that that lets me now do bigger things like I could do
now do bigger things like I could do
now do bigger things like I could do that again no problem right I’m not
that again no problem right I’m not
that again no problem right I’m not afraid of that anymore and so that
afraid of that anymore and so that
afraid of that anymore and so that unless we do something big and big and
unless we do something big and big and
unless we do something big and big and bigger and so if you have a test that I
bigger and so if you have a test that I
bigger and so if you have a test that I try to give myself when i’m looking at
try to give myself when i’m looking at
try to give myself when i’m looking at something new and i’m i’m facing like
something new and i’m i’m facing like
something new and i’m i’m facing like internal demons is do I not want to do
internal demons is do I not want to do
internal demons is do I not want to do this because I’m afraid or do I not want
this because I’m afraid or do I not want
this because I’m afraid or do I not want to do this because it actually makes
to do this because it actually makes
to do this because it actually makes sense not to do this um and and will
sense not to do this um and and will
sense not to do this um and and will often like will cover that will will
often like will cover that will will
often like will cover that will will tell ourselves reasons why we shouldn’t
tell ourselves reasons why we shouldn’t
tell ourselves reasons why we shouldn’t do something and make it seem logical
do something and make it seem logical
do something and make it seem logical but the real reason is because we’re
but the real reason is because we’re
but the real reason is because we’re afraid that’s that’s some hard
afraid that’s that’s some hard
afraid that’s that’s some hard self-awareness not at least for me I
self-awareness not at least for me I
self-awareness not at least for me I think some people get it naturally but
think some people get it naturally but
think some people get it naturally but for me that was super super difficult I
for me that was super super difficult I
for me that was super super difficult I think it’s difficult for a lot of people
think it’s difficult for a lot of people
think it’s difficult for a lot of people and there’s most people their fear is
and there’s most people their fear is
and there’s most people their fear is around not being enough we’re afraid of
around not being enough we’re afraid of
around not being enough we’re afraid of not being enough or we’re afraid of
not being enough or we’re afraid of
not being enough or we’re afraid of losing love for the people around us if
losing love for the people around us if
losing love for the people around us if we go forward and do this thing and they
we go forward and do this thing and they
we go forward and do this thing and they find out that we’re not enough so it’s a
find out that we’re not enough so it’s a
find out that we’re not enough so it’s a really common fear and I think it’s good
really common fear and I think it’s good
really common fear and I think it’s good to always remember because a lot of
to always remember because a lot of
to always remember because a lot of times we think of things we struggle
times we think of things we struggle
times we think of things we struggle with are things that were afraid of
with are things that were afraid of
with are things that were afraid of separate us from everyone and that this
separate us from everyone and that this
separate us from everyone and that this is what’s wrong with me I’m afraid aura
is what’s wrong with me I’m afraid aura
is what’s wrong with me I’m afraid aura and this is terrible but a reality those
and this is terrible but a reality those
and this is terrible but a reality those are the things that connect you to
are the things that connect you to
are the things that connect you to everyone else because everybody has fear
everyone else because everybody has fear
everyone else because everybody has fear everyone has things that are struggling
everyone has things that are struggling
everyone has things that are struggling with it’s important to remember that
with it’s important to remember that
with it’s important to remember that even the people that you look up to and
even the people that you look up to and
even the people that you look up to and you might think have it all going on
you might think have it all going on
you might think have it all going on they have things that they’re struggling
they have things that they’re struggling
they have things that they’re struggling with two because for all you
with two because for all you
with two because for all you me and we all struggle yeah I think
me and we all struggle yeah I think
me and we all struggle yeah I think that’s that’s helped me too and looking
that’s that’s helped me too and looking
that’s that’s helped me too and looking at successful entrepreneurs and reading
at successful entrepreneurs and reading
at successful entrepreneurs and reading the early sore and realizing that they
the early sore and realizing that they
the early sore and realizing that they struggle and they didn’t have all the
struggle and they didn’t have all the
struggle and they didn’t have all the answers and how they almost gave up and
answers and how they almost gave up and
answers and how they almost gave up and quit made me feel like I’m just like I’m
quit made me feel like I’m just like I’m
quit made me feel like I’m just like I’m just like that guy I’m just like him um
just like that guy I’m just like him um
just like that guy I’m just like him um because I don’t think we tell those
because I don’t think we tell those
because I don’t think we tell those stories enough but we just we just see
stories enough but we just we just see
stories enough but we just we just see like the perfection we don’t measure up
like the perfection we don’t measure up
like the perfection we don’t measure up so we get we lose we lose confidence
so we get we lose we lose confidence
so we get we lose we lose confidence yeah um sedc 23 is wondering what good
yeah um sedc 23 is wondering what good
yeah um sedc 23 is wondering what good books we recommend reading hey I’m
books we recommend reading hey I’m
books we recommend reading hey I’m curious what your recommended book is um
curious what your recommended book is um
curious what your recommended book is um I read a lot of books there’s hard it’s
I read a lot of books there’s hard it’s
I read a lot of books there’s hard it’s hard for you to recommend one i recently
hard for you to recommend one i recently
hard for you to recommend one i recently read an interesting book called the
read an interesting book called the
read an interesting book called the books called the luck factor where is
books called the luck factor where is
books called the luck factor where is that should be somewhere I don’t see it
that should be somewhere I don’t see it
that should be somewhere I don’t see it but anyways cause a lot factor it was
but anyways cause a lot factor it was
but anyways cause a lot factor it was just about people who are unlucky and
just about people who are unlucky and
just about people who are unlucky and people are lucky and how they’re really
people are lucky and how they’re really
people are lucky and how they’re really different like how they just look at
different like how they just look at
different like how they just look at life differently and then how you can
life differently and then how you can
life differently and then how you can change so you can be lucky to and then
change so you can be lucky to and then
change so you can be lucky to and then also recently I read steal like an
also recently I read steal like an
also recently I read steal like an artist which is a good book and I read a
artist which is a good book and I read a
artist which is a good book and I read a lot of books it’s hard to say if you
lot of books it’s hard to say if you
lot of books it’s hard to say if you want to read a novel I’m an author and I
want to read a novel I’m an author and I
want to read a novel I’m an author and I have a novel class it’s my lessons cool
have a novel class it’s my lessons cool
have a novel class it’s my lessons cool um so for me I know if you’re on my
um so for me I know if you’re on my
um so for me I know if you’re on my newsletter or not but I give a list of
newsletter or not but I give a list of
newsletter or not but I give a list of all my books in the newsletter that I
all my books in the newsletter that I
all my books in the newsletter that I recommend my number one and two books
recommend my number one and two books
recommend my number one and two books one is super common one nobody knows
one is super common one nobody knows
one is super common one nobody knows about um my favorite book is the 4-hour
about um my favorite book is the 4-hour
about um my favorite book is the 4-hour workweek Tim Ferriss super practical
workweek Tim Ferriss super practical
workweek Tim Ferriss super practical talks a lot about time management in
talks a lot about time management in
talks a lot about time management in there running the business in there and
there running the business in there and
there running the business in there and that kind of my eyes up to delegating
that kind of my eyes up to delegating
that kind of my eyes up to delegating building the team at the time I was
building the team at the time I was
building the team at the time I was trying to do everything myself and that
trying to do everything myself and that
trying to do everything myself and that really kind of a huge impact on how I
really kind of a huge impact on how I
really kind of a huge impact on how I structure my day and my thoughts and
structure my day and my thoughts and
structure my day and my thoughts and building my business that’s a I mean
building my business that’s a I mean
building my business that’s a I mean it’s been new york times bestseller for
it’s been new york times bestseller for
it’s been new york times bestseller for I don’t know how many years in a row so
I don’t know how many years in a row so
I don’t know how many years in a row so you guys may have heard of that one
you guys may have heard of that one
you guys may have heard of that one before the
before the
before the one is out of print it’s called radicals
one is out of print it’s called radicals
one is out of print it’s called radicals and visionaries and this helps my my
and visionaries and this helps my my
and visionaries and this helps my my business it was put up by entrepreneur
business it was put up by entrepreneur
business it was put up by entrepreneur press I talked about it in a video
press I talked about it in a video
press I talked about it in a video before and then somebody commented and
before and then somebody commented and
before and then somebody commented and said we can’t find that video is out of
said we can’t find that video is out of
said we can’t find that video is out of print I started that book and somebody
print I started that book and somebody
print I started that book and somebody sell on ebay for one hundred fifty
sell on ebay for one hundred fifty
sell on ebay for one hundred fifty dollars or something okay I’m glad I
dollars or something okay I’m glad I
dollars or something okay I’m glad I have mine but on basically what it does
have mine but on basically what it does
have mine but on basically what it does is it looks at successful entrepreneurs
is it looks at successful entrepreneurs
is it looks at successful entrepreneurs and tells their story in like five pages
and tells their story in like five pages
and tells their story in like five pages and so I would start my day we talked a
and so I would start my day we talked a
and so I would start my day we talked a routine schedule environment that’s how
routine schedule environment that’s how
routine schedule environment that’s how I would start my day before when I was
I would start my day before when I was
I would start my day before when I was getting started was I would read a
getting started was I would read a
getting started was I would read a one-person story five pages quick kind
one-person story five pages quick kind
one-person story five pages quick kind of jolt get some motivation to go and as
of jolt get some motivation to go and as
of jolt get some motivation to go and as well as some ideas that may help your
well as some ideas that may help your
well as some ideas that may help your business so radicals and visionaries may
business so radicals and visionaries may
business so radicals and visionaries may be able to find it those are doing my
be able to find it those are doing my
be able to find it those are doing my two bucks a dread dog how do you manage
two bucks a dread dog how do you manage
two bucks a dread dog how do you manage your time when you have a full-time job
your time when you have a full-time job
your time when you have a full-time job and you’re a single parent that’s a good
and you’re a single parent that’s a good
and you’re a single parent that’s a good question I’m not very good at time
question I’m not very good at time
question I’m not very good at time management it so fast that with you
management it so fast that with you
management it so fast that with you honestly I’m not I’m not very good at it
honestly I’m not I’m not very good at it
honestly I’m not I’m not very good at it I’m cool dry dog okay I’ll take that one
I’m cool dry dog okay I’ll take that one
I’m cool dry dog okay I’ll take that one I have a lot I have a lot of weird
I have a lot I have a lot of weird
I have a lot I have a lot of weird things about time management I’m the one
things about time management I’m the one
things about time management I’m the one may be the easiest I’d guess is chunking
may be the easiest I’d guess is chunking
may be the easiest I’d guess is chunking similar tasks you put on similar in
similar tasks you put on similar in
similar tasks you put on similar in similar days I think people lose a lot
similar days I think people lose a lot
similar days I think people lose a lot of time from switching tasks like you’re
of time from switching tasks like you’re
of time from switching tasks like you’re working on something and then somebody
working on something and then somebody
working on something and then somebody calls you or email comes in and then to
calls you or email comes in and then to
calls you or email comes in and then to get back to what you’re doing before
get back to what you’re doing before
get back to what you’re doing before might take you half an hour to get back
might take you half an hour to get back
might take you half an hour to get back in that zone and so anything as a
in that zone and so anything as a
in that zone and so anything as a general rule anything that you do
general rule anything that you do
general rule anything that you do multiple times per day do once a day
multiple times per day do once a day
multiple times per day do once a day holdem times per week do once a week
holdem times per week do once a week
holdem times per week do once a week multi for a month once a month and so on
multi for a month once a month and so on
multi for a month once a month and so on um so as an example my week is scheduled
um so as an example my week is scheduled
um so as an example my week is scheduled so that mondays are my like work in the
so that mondays are my like work in the
so that mondays are my like work in the business day it’s my administer not
business day it’s my administer not
business day it’s my administer not monday don’t talk to me on monday don’t
monday don’t talk to me on monday don’t
monday don’t talk to me on monday don’t call me on Monday don’t email me on
call me on Monday don’t email me on
call me on Monday don’t email me on Monday you’re not getting a response
Monday you’re not getting a response
Monday you’re not getting a response like
like
like monday I’m just working i am hauling
monday I’m just working i am hauling
monday I’m just working i am hauling it’s just all just straight work and you
it’s just all just straight work and you
it’s just all just straight work and you know i don’t have to dress up i don’t
know i don’t have to dress up i don’t
know i don’t have to dress up i don’t have to shave you know whatever right
have to shave you know whatever right
have to shave you know whatever right like you’re just in that zone um tuesday
like you’re just in that zone um tuesday
like you’re just in that zone um tuesday i’m writing the book i’m writing a book
i’m writing the book i’m writing a book
i’m writing the book i’m writing a book too so that’s coming out and that’s my
too so that’s coming out and that’s my
too so that’s coming out and that’s my writing day and so tuesday you know
writing day and so tuesday you know
writing day and so tuesday you know Monday I’ve done all my stuff for the
Monday I’ve done all my stuff for the
Monday I’ve done all my stuff for the week I’ve planned it out so tuesday i’m
week I’ve planned it out so tuesday i’m
week I’ve planned it out so tuesday i’m writing so I walked to the local Whole
writing so I walked to the local Whole
writing so I walked to the local Whole Foods and I sit down pull up my macbook
Foods and I sit down pull up my macbook
Foods and I sit down pull up my macbook air and I’m just tapping away we’re in
air and I’m just tapping away we’re in
air and I’m just tapping away we’re in the book something like right in the
the book something like right in the
the book something like right in the book as you know like you could
book as you know like you could
book as you know like you could interrupted by writing the book to get
interrupted by writing the book to get
interrupted by writing the book to get back into it this ridiculous takes me an
back into it this ridiculous takes me an
back into it this ridiculous takes me an hour just to get into it from what I was
hour just to get into it from what I was
hour just to get into it from what I was doing last week maybe I’m maybe that’s
doing last week maybe I’m maybe that’s
doing last week maybe I’m maybe that’s my process and I’m slow and whatever but
my process and I’m slow and whatever but
my process and I’m slow and whatever but I need an entire day just to write uh
I need an entire day just to write uh
I need an entire day just to write uh wednesday i do film i video tape for my
wednesday i do film i video tape for my
wednesday i do film i video tape for my channel right will do aah now how many
channel right will do aah now how many
channel right will do aah now how many were doing doing like 20 videos a week
were doing doing like 20 videos a week
were doing doing like 20 videos a week on the youtube channel it’s in your boom
on the youtube channel it’s in your boom
on the youtube channel it’s in your boom yeah it’s insane most of those are our
yeah it’s insane most of those are our
yeah it’s insane most of those are our film on wednesday the camera guy comes
film on wednesday the camera guy comes
film on wednesday the camera guy comes over and we have every wednesday we sit
over and we have every wednesday we sit
over and we have every wednesday we sit and we record all the videos for the
and we record all the videos for the
and we record all the videos for the channel and then Thursday is my
channel and then Thursday is my
channel and then Thursday is my public-facing day Thursday is my let’s
public-facing day Thursday is my let’s
public-facing day Thursday is my let’s do a hangout today it’s Thursday right
do a hangout today it’s Thursday right
do a hangout today it’s Thursday right let’s do a hangout let’s go I have
let’s do a hangout let’s go I have
let’s do a hangout let’s go I have meetings I have phone calls I have other
meetings I have phone calls I have other
meetings I have phone calls I have other interviews you know Thursday is when it
interviews you know Thursday is when it
interviews you know Thursday is when it all happens and I give people like like
all happens and I give people like like
all happens and I give people like like loveland had a has a link to my schedule
loveland had a has a link to my schedule
loveland had a has a link to my schedule and she went and she booked the time
and she went and she booked the time
and she went and she booked the time that fit her schedule and it’s always on
that fit her schedule and it’s always on
that fit her schedule and it’s always on a Thursday and she big slots and here we
a Thursday and she big slots and here we
a Thursday and she big slots and here we aren’t doing our thing and so like every
aren’t doing our thing and so like every
aren’t doing our thing and so like every day I have sectioned off to do something
day I have sectioned off to do something
day I have sectioned off to do something else so that I’m not switching between
else so that I’m not switching between
else so that I’m not switching between tasks and I can stay focused I generally
tasks and I can stay focused I generally
tasks and I can stay focused I generally find working in 90 minute chunks really
find working in 90 minute chunks really
find working in 90 minute chunks really helpful so working 90-minute chunk and
helpful so working 90-minute chunk and
helpful so working 90-minute chunk and then 15 minute break in a 90-minute
then 15 minute break in a 90-minute
then 15 minute break in a 90-minute chunk and I mean the exception to all of
chunk and I mean the exception to all of
chunk and I mean the exception to all of that is when I’m when I’m in flow you
that is when I’m when I’m in flow you
that is when I’m when I’m in flow you know like if I’m really feeling
know like if I’m really feeling
know like if I’m really feeling something then then I might break it
something then then I might break it
something then then I might break it like if I’m
like if I’m
like if I’m by Tuesday morning wake up with an
by Tuesday morning wake up with an
by Tuesday morning wake up with an amazing idea I need to go work on it
amazing idea I need to go work on it
amazing idea I need to go work on it I’ll forget about the book and just go
I’ll forget about the book and just go
I’ll forget about the book and just go work on that or if i’m doing my 90
work on that or if i’m doing my 90
work on that or if i’m doing my 90 minute chunks i’m just really feeling
minute chunks i’m just really feeling
minute chunks i’m just really feeling something I’ll just I’ll plow through it
something I’ll just I’ll plow through it
something I’ll just I’ll plow through it because that’s when you’re going to
because that’s when you’re going to
because that’s when you’re going to create really that’s the goal you don’t
create really that’s the goal you don’t
create really that’s the goal you don’t want to limit and say well my 90 minutes
want to limit and say well my 90 minutes
want to limit and say well my 90 minutes are up so I’m gonna move on to something
are up so I’m gonna move on to something
are up so I’m gonna move on to something else um but dont trick yourself because
else um but dont trick yourself because
else um but dont trick yourself because you’re not in flow often raisio I’m
you’re not in flow often raisio I’m
you’re not in flow often raisio I’m really in flow answering these emails
really in flow answering these emails
really in flow answering these emails who this is amazing right um I have much
who this is amazing right um I have much
who this is amazing right um I have much of other weird ones like I don’t have a
of other weird ones like I don’t have a
of other weird ones like I don’t have a phone I don’t have a cell phone I have a
phone I don’t have a cell phone I have a
phone I don’t have a cell phone I have a regular phone I’m own is not now now
regular phone I’m own is not now now
regular phone I’m own is not now now it’s other people’s agenda for your time
it’s other people’s agenda for your time
it’s other people’s agenda for your time what a phone is um so sometimes people
what a phone is um so sometimes people
what a phone is um so sometimes people feel like I’m offending them like they
feel like I’m offending them like they
feel like I’m offending them like they say I wanted to a conference in New
say I wanted to a conference in New
say I wanted to a conference in New Orleans I was speaking at last week in
Orleans I was speaking at last week in
Orleans I was speaking at last week in the organizers like what’s your cell
the organizers like what’s your cell
the organizers like what’s your cell phone number so we can keep in touch it
phone number so we can keep in touch it
phone number so we can keep in touch it I don’t have a cell phone well how can
I don’t have a cell phone well how can
I don’t have a cell phone well how can we text you but you can’t text me not
we text you but you can’t text me not
we text you but you can’t text me not happening and she was a she fought like
happening and she was a she fought like
happening and she was a she fought like I was just like didn’t want to give it
I was just like didn’t want to give it
I was just like didn’t want to give it to her I know I was you know she’s like
to her I know I was you know she’s like
to her I know I was you know she’s like well don’t worry I won’t give you a
well don’t worry I won’t give you a
well don’t worry I won’t give you a number up to anybody else that it just
number up to anybody else that it just
number up to anybody else that it just before the conference like no like I
before the conference like no like I
before the conference like no like I really don’t have a phone um yeah I
really don’t have a phone um yeah I
really don’t have a phone um yeah I really value my time and the counter
really value my time and the counter
really value my time and the counter part of that is what I mean it I mean it
part of that is what I mean it I mean it
part of that is what I mean it I mean it like we’re talking now and not doing
like we’re talking now and not doing
like we’re talking now and not doing anything else I’m not checking email not
anything else I’m not checking email not
anything else I’m not checking email not on facebook i’m not doing anything but
on facebook i’m not doing anything but
on facebook i’m not doing anything but talking to you and so when I am doing in
talking to you and so when I am doing in
talking to you and so when I am doing in those chunks I’m focused and that lets
those chunks I’m focused and that lets
those chunks I’m focused and that lets you get a lot of amazing stuff done yeah
you get a lot of amazing stuff done yeah
you get a lot of amazing stuff done yeah and so the original question was time
and so the original question was time
and so the original question was time mentioned being a single parent I would
mentioned being a single parent I would
mentioned being a single parent I would I would look at what can I do I mean so
I would look at what can I do I mean so
I would look at what can I do I mean so you don’t have all day you have a job
you don’t have all day you have a job
you don’t have all day you have a job you have a kid I would try to chunk out
you have a kid I would try to chunk out
you have a kid I would try to chunk out like half an hour a day an hour day
like half an hour a day an hour day
like half an hour a day an hour day whatever you can find a time dedicate it
whatever you can find a time dedicate it
whatever you can find a time dedicate it to work around your business and commit
to work around your business and commit
to work around your business and commit to doing that every single day yeah
to doing that every single day yeah
to doing that every single day yeah whatever time here you can take look
whatever time here you can take look
whatever time here you can take look even it’s a small amount of time a small
even it’s a small amount of time a small
even it’s a small amount of time a small amount of time every single day adds up
amount of time every single day adds up
amount of time every single day adds up yeah now would i would like every day at
yeah now would i would like every day at
yeah now would i would like every day at least half an hour you got to find half
least half an hour you got to find half
least half an hour you got to find half an hour every single day if you’re you
an hour every single day if you’re you
an hour every single day if you’re you know super busy just that’s that’s
know super busy just that’s that’s
know super busy just that’s that’s important for your dream don’t
important for your dream don’t
important for your dream don’t to die because you have other things
to die because you have other things
to die because you have other things coming up you know it’s like you get
coming up you know it’s like you get
coming up you know it’s like you get home it’s really late you still have
home it’s really late you still have
home it’s really late you still have half an hour work on your business and
half an hour work on your business and
half an hour work on your business and then go to bed uh king j how important
then go to bed uh king j how important
then go to bed uh king j how important is diet when starting the business how
is diet when starting the business how
is diet when starting the business how important is diet it’s always important
important is diet it’s always important
important is diet it’s always important whether or not you’re starting to
whether or not you’re starting to
whether or not you’re starting to business you need to take care of your
business you need to take care of your
business you need to take care of your body the way that you’re going to be
body the way that you’re going to be
body the way that you’re going to be able to have the energy that you need to
able to have the energy that you need to
able to have the energy that you need to start a business is by putting the right
start a business is by putting the right
start a business is by putting the right tool fuel into your body so that you can
tool fuel into your body so that you can
tool fuel into your body so that you can have the energy to do that die it’s
have the energy to do that die it’s
have the energy to do that die it’s always important and then that you
always important and then that you
always important and then that you followed up since is king king j
followed up since is king king j
followed up since is king king j normally here business owners say they
normally here business owners say they
normally here business owners say they stay up late nights drinking unhealthy
stay up late nights drinking unhealthy
stay up late nights drinking unhealthy amounts of coffee uh well i am drinking
amounts of coffee uh well i am drinking
amounts of coffee uh well i am drinking my green smoothie granite this is what i
my green smoothie granite this is what i
my green smoothie granite this is what i have every day I don’t know what’s in
have every day I don’t know what’s in
have every day I don’t know what’s in here my wife makes these for me uh green
here my wife makes these for me uh green
here my wife makes these for me uh green means it’s kale I don’t know what the
means it’s kale I don’t know what the
means it’s kale I don’t know what the rest of it is it kind of varies from day
rest of it is it kind of varies from day
rest of it is it kind of varies from day to day um yeah I mean I think you can
to day um yeah I mean I think you can
to day um yeah I mean I think you can you can you can plow through stuff if
you can you can plow through stuff if
you can you can plow through stuff if you absolutely need to but if you’re in
you absolutely need to but if you’re in
you absolutely need to but if you’re in it for the long haul you need to take
it for the long haul you need to take
it for the long haul you need to take care of yourself um and I would also
care of yourself um and I would also
care of yourself um and I would also look as a curveball to this i would i
look as a curveball to this i would i
look as a curveball to this i would i would try to figure out uh what time of
would try to figure out uh what time of
would try to figure out uh what time of day works best for you because i feel i
day works best for you because i feel i
day works best for you because i feel i feel like there are people who work
feel like there are people who work
feel like there are people who work better at night and some people regret
better at night and some people regret
better at night and some people regret in the morning if you’re a night person
in the morning if you’re a night person
in the morning if you’re a night person and you i am not like a early morning
and you i am not like a early morning
and you i am not like a early morning person I can’t wait to get there I can’t
person I can’t wait to get there I can’t
person I can’t wait to get there I can’t I’m not the five thirty in the morning
I’m not the five thirty in the morning
I’m not the five thirty in the morning wake up and like get stuff done before
wake up and like get stuff done before
wake up and like get stuff done before the house gets up um I can’t do that but
the house gets up um I can’t do that but
the house gets up um I can’t do that but that’s cool like some people are and
that’s cool like some people are and
that’s cool like some people are and that’s awesome so you have to find your
that’s awesome so you have to find your
that’s awesome so you have to find your cadence find what works for you and if
cadence find what works for you and if
cadence find what works for you and if you’re the kind of person who likes
you’re the kind of person who likes
you’re the kind of person who likes working into the night and that gives
working into the night and that gives
working into the night and that gives you your peace and solitude and gets you
you your peace and solitude and gets you
you your peace and solitude and gets you into the zone then do that and stretch
into the zone then do that and stretch
into the zone then do that and stretch your life around that but if you’re not
your life around that but if you’re not
your life around that but if you’re not taking care of yourself you know you’re
taking care of yourself you know you’re
taking care of yourself you know you’re not going to you’re not going to last
not going to you’re not going to last
not going to you’re not going to last very long um I know we’re kind of we’re
very long um I know we’re kind of we’re
very long um I know we’re kind of we’re bumping up the clock and we still have a
bumping up the clock and we still have a
bumping up the clock and we still have a ton of questions so people are liking
ton of questions so people are liking
ton of questions so people are liking your liking the topic here um my passion
your liking the topic here um my passion
your liking the topic here um my passion maybe last one Sonam so now is writing
maybe last one Sonam so now is writing
maybe last one Sonam so now is writing uh my passion is inspiring young
uh my passion is inspiring young
uh my passion is inspiring young athletes that go after their dreams of
athletes that go after their dreams of
athletes that go after their dreams of playing basketball but this will take
playing basketball but this will take
playing basketball but this will take time to build he’s starting a blog and I
time to build he’s starting a blog and I
time to build he’s starting a blog and I need to provide money for family myself
need to provide money for family myself
need to provide money for family myself right now what do you think I think
right now what do you think I think
right now what do you think I think there’s nothing wrong with starting
there’s nothing wrong with starting
there’s nothing wrong with starting something part-time at first to get it
something part-time at first to get it
something part-time at first to get it started so that you’re not you don’t
started so that you’re not you don’t
started so that you’re not you don’t have a lot of pressure on yourself to
have a lot of pressure on yourself to
have a lot of pressure on yourself to like if you need the money to take care
like if you need the money to take care
like if you need the money to take care of your family or other responsibilities
of your family or other responsibilities
of your family or other responsibilities maybe you have to start that business on
maybe you have to start that business on
maybe you have to start that business on the side for now but that’s an
the side for now but that’s an
the side for now but that’s an acceptable thing to do I think we have a
acceptable thing to do I think we have a
acceptable thing to do I think we have a lot of pressures we put all I pressure
lot of pressures we put all I pressure
lot of pressures we put all I pressure on ourselves sometimes to like you just
on ourselves sometimes to like you just
on ourselves sometimes to like you just have to do it all it’s all or nothing
have to do it all it’s all or nothing
have to do it all it’s all or nothing right now but I think that there is room
right now but I think that there is room
right now but I think that there is room for a different way to start or to do
for a different way to start or to do
for a different way to start or to do something on the side and build it up to
something on the side and build it up to
something on the side and build it up to it creating that income so that you can
it creating that income so that you can
it creating that income so that you can eventually quit that day job in to your
eventually quit that day job in to your
eventually quit that day job in to your business full time yeah I agree we’re on
business full time yeah I agree we’re on
business full time yeah I agree we’re on the same page with that one I think a
the same page with that one I think a
the same page with that one I think a lot of entrepreneurs they quit they
lot of entrepreneurs they quit they
lot of entrepreneurs they quit they start a business they don’t get results
start a business they don’t get results
start a business they don’t get results fast enough and then 36 months later
fast enough and then 36 months later
fast enough and then 36 months later they burn through other savings and on
they burn through other savings and on
they burn through other savings and on their back having to go get job super
their back having to go get job super
their back having to go get job super demoralise and like having nothing to
demoralise and like having nothing to
demoralise and like having nothing to your name and it’s way better to start
your name and it’s way better to start
your name and it’s way better to start the business on the side and just
the business on the side and just
the business on the side and just dedicate time at least half an hour
dedicate time at least half an hour
dedicate time at least half an hour every single day to making this business
every single day to making this business
every single day to making this business happen the curveball I would throw is I
happen the curveball I would throw is I
happen the curveball I would throw is I would try to get a job that would help
would try to get a job that would help
would try to get a job that would help me become a better entrepreneur so if
me become a better entrepreneur so if
me become a better entrepreneur so if you want to help aspiring young athletes
you want to help aspiring young athletes
you want to help aspiring young athletes play professional basketball I would try
play professional basketball I would try
play professional basketball I would try to get a job where I’m going to learn
to get a job where I’m going to learn
to get a job where I’m going to learn about the game professional basketball
about the game professional basketball
about the game professional basketball and working with a sports team i’m
and working with a sports team i’m
and working with a sports team i’m working with the kids something where
working with the kids something where
working with the kids something where you’re going to learn how to transfer
you’re going to learn how to transfer
you’re going to learn how to transfer those skills to make your business
those skills to make your business
those skills to make your business better so you’re not just getting some
better so you’re not just getting some
better so you’re not just getting some job I don’t know what you’re doing if
job I don’t know what you’re doing if
job I don’t know what you’re doing if you’re in accounting or you know
you’re in accounting or you know
you’re in accounting or you know something you know you in mcdonalds job
something you know you in mcdonalds job
something you know you in mcdonalds job or whatever if it’s something totally
or whatever if it’s something totally
or whatever if it’s something totally unrelated then that’s not going to help
unrelated then that’s not going to help
unrelated then that’s not going to help you we’re ideally you have a job where
you we’re ideally you have a job where
you we’re ideally you have a job where you’re learning you’re getting
you’re learning you’re getting
you’re learning you’re getting mentorship you’re making money you’re
mentorship you’re making money you’re
mentorship you’re making money you’re building
building
building actually getting the experience you’re
actually getting the experience you’re
actually getting the experience you’re getting paid to make mistakes so that
getting paid to make mistakes so that
getting paid to make mistakes so that when you go and you start your business
when you go and you start your business
when you go and you start your business and you jump in you’re going to have a
and you jump in you’re going to have a
and you jump in you’re going to have a leg up I’m going to end up there where
leg up I’m going to end up there where
leg up I’m going to end up there where we’re up against the owl already um it’s
we’re up against the owl already um it’s
we’re up against the owl already um it’s been tons of fun to thank you guys for
been tons of fun to thank you guys for
been tons of fun to thank you guys for watching and all the questions and I’m
watching and all the questions and I’m
watching and all the questions and I’m sorry we couldn’t get to all of them
sorry we couldn’t get to all of them
sorry we couldn’t get to all of them next time you know get those questions
next time you know get those questions
next time you know get those questions and early and loveland I really
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