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How to Make Your Brand REMARKABLE ft. @PhoebeChongchua


um hello everybody welcome to another

um hello everybody welcome to another YouTube hang out super excited to be

YouTube hang out super excited to be

YouTube hang out super excited to be here with you guys on the fifth hang go

here with you guys on the fifth hang go

here with you guys on the fifth hang go to think of the day it’s been a fun

to think of the day it’s been a fun

to think of the day it’s been a fun amazing day I’m joined by a new friend

amazing day I’m joined by a new friend

amazing day I’m joined by a new friend her name is Phoebe she is a former TV

her name is Phoebe she is a former TV

her name is Phoebe she is a former TV journalist and let me make sure I get

journalist and let me make sure I get

journalist and let me make sure I get this right multimedia brand journalist

this right multimedia brand journalist

this right multimedia brand journalist now brain consultant marketing

now brain consultant marketing

now brain consultant marketing strategist podcaster extraordinary we’re

strategist podcaster extraordinary we’re

strategist podcaster extraordinary we’re doing a two-part series where this week

doing a two-part series where this week

doing a two-part series where this week she’s on my channel I’m interviewing her

she’s on my channel I’m interviewing her

she’s on my channel I’m interviewing her next week I’m having her podcast also on

next week I’m having her podcast also on

next week I’m having her podcast also on this channel and she’s gonna be

this channel and she’s gonna be

this channel and she’s gonna be interviewing me so today we’re going to

interviewing me so today we’re going to

interviewing me so today we’re going to be talking about how to make you a brand

be talking about how to make you a brand

be talking about how to make you a brand remarkable and I’m super excited to get

remarkable and I’m super excited to get

remarkable and I’m super excited to get into this talk and Phoebe welcome aboard

into this talk and Phoebe welcome aboard

into this talk and Phoebe welcome aboard hey glad to be here how are you good do

hey glad to be here how are you good do

hey glad to be here how are you good do you want to give just a little bit more

you want to give just a little bit more

you want to give just a little bit more context for the people watching about

context for the people watching about

context for the people watching about what you’re all about what you’re doing

what you’re all about what you’re doing

what you’re all about what you’re doing how you help people in your daily

how you help people in your daily

how you help people in your daily practice now absolutely so you know

practice now absolutely so you know

practice now absolutely so you know that’s always a challenge because you

that’s always a challenge because you

that’s always a challenge because you hear things like multimedia brand

hear things like multimedia brand

hear things like multimedia brand journalists and you go what you know

journalists and you go what you know

journalists and you go what you know like what is that menu here podcaster

like what is that menu here podcaster

like what is that menu here podcaster and of course now that audience is

and of course now that audience is

and of course now that audience is growing but you know as we were talking

growing but you know as we were talking

growing but you know as we were talking just before we started this a lot of

just before we started this a lot of

just before we started this a lot of people get confused by those terms so

people get confused by those terms so

people get confused by those terms so forget all the terms here’s the basic

forget all the terms here’s the basic

forget all the terms here’s the basic essence of what I do I help brands

essence of what I do I help brands

essence of what I do I help brands become remarkable and the way we do that

become remarkable and the way we do that

become remarkable and the way we do that is we revolutionize communication and

is we revolutionize communication and

is we revolutionize communication and when you say well what does that mean

when you say well what does that mean

when you say well what does that mean how do you revolutionize communication

how do you revolutionize communication

how do you revolutionize communication well I mean you’re perfect example

well I mean you’re perfect example

well I mean you’re perfect example you’re doing that you’re sharing your

you’re doing that you’re sharing your

you’re doing that you’re sharing your communication you’re sharing your skills

communication you’re sharing your skills

communication you’re sharing your skills your sharing advice and expertise and

your sharing advice and expertise and

your sharing advice and expertise and you’re bringing that to an audience that

you’re bringing that to an audience that

you’re bringing that to an audience that cares and wants it and that’s what I

cares and wants it and that’s what I

cares and wants it and that’s what I help do I help tell brand stories I help

help do I help tell brand stories I help

help do I help tell brand stories I help craft those brands stories in a

craft those brands stories in a

craft those brands stories in a meaningful way but I bring that part

meaningful way but I bring that part

meaningful way but I bring that part that side that I have the experience

that side that I have the experience

that side that I have the experience from a TV news station of spending about

from a TV news station of spending about

from a TV news station of spending about almost all shy of two decades there and

almost all shy of two decades there and

almost all shy of two decades there and seeing the way that works and as we were

seeing the way that works and as we were

seeing the way that works and as we were talking about news stations our

talking about news stations our

talking about news stations our businesses so their goal is to have

businesses so their goal is to have

businesses so their goal is to have viewers which essentially our consumers

viewers which essentially our consumers

viewers which essentially our consumers so that’s what every entrepreneur wants

so that’s what every entrepreneur wants

so that’s what every entrepreneur wants as well cool well yeah the audience

as well cool well yeah the audience

as well cool well yeah the audience hears entrepreneurs and a lot of people

hears entrepreneurs and a lot of people

hears entrepreneurs and a lot of people or starting the business already have

or starting the business already have

or starting the business already have their business and I kind of want to get

their business and I kind of want to get

their business and I kind of want to get the next step branding is not often the

the next step branding is not often the

the next step branding is not often the first thing that people look at and a

first thing that people look at and a

first thing that people look at and a lot of entrepreneurs don’t do a great

lot of entrepreneurs don’t do a great

lot of entrepreneurs don’t do a great job of branding themselves you know

job of branding themselves you know

job of branding themselves you know maybe they weren’t taught at maybe they

maybe they weren’t taught at maybe they

maybe they weren’t taught at maybe they haven’t thought about it maybe they’re

haven’t thought about it maybe they’re

haven’t thought about it maybe they’re just so busy trying to figure out how to

just so busy trying to figure out how to

just so busy trying to figure out how to pay the bills what are some of the

pay the bills what are some of the

pay the bills what are some of the things that an entrepreneur needs to

things that an entrepreneur needs to

things that an entrepreneur needs to focus on with their branding in order to

focus on with their branding in order to

focus on with their branding in order to try to make it remarkable well I’m going

try to make it remarkable well I’m going

try to make it remarkable well I’m going to take you you know let’s back that up

to take you you know let’s back that up

to take you you know let’s back that up a little bit so that the first thing you

a little bit so that the first thing you

a little bit so that the first thing you need to do is you need to understand who

need to do is you need to understand who

need to do is you need to understand who you’re talking to and I think you hear

you’re talking to and I think you hear

you’re talking to and I think you hear this a lot you hear a brand persona so

this a lot you hear a brand persona so

this a lot you hear a brand persona so if you compare this to a television

if you compare this to a television

if you compare this to a television station so for instance I was the

station so for instance I was the

station so for instance I was the morning anchor from good morning San

morning anchor from good morning San

morning anchor from good morning San Diego right here in San Diego with

Diego right here in San Diego with

Diego right here in San Diego with 10news and we had to know who was

10news and we had to know who was

10news and we had to know who was watching us in order to create that

watching us in order to create that

watching us in order to create that brand in order to know what should go in

brand in order to know what should go in

brand in order to know what should go in that show how you stack your newscast so

that show how you stack your newscast so

that show how you stack your newscast so just like you how do you stack your

just like you how do you stack your

just like you how do you stack your day’s news feed on YouTube you have to

day’s news feed on YouTube you have to

day’s news feed on YouTube you have to know who you’re talking to so the brand

know who you’re talking to so the brand

know who you’re talking to so the brand first starts by understanding what you

first starts by understanding what you

first starts by understanding what you want to convey to your audience but who

want to convey to your audience but who

want to convey to your audience but who is your audience if you start with that

is your audience if you start with that

is your audience if you start with that and you understand that you know if you

and you understand that you know if you

and you understand that you know if you will it’s been called an avatar that

will it’s been called an avatar that

will it’s been called an avatar that persona then you’re able to reach that

persona then you’re able to reach that

persona then you’re able to reach that audience with the key questions and

audience with the key questions and

audience with the key questions and solve for those key problems in the most

solve for those key problems in the most

solve for those key problems in the most influential and the most effective way

influential and the most effective way

influential and the most effective way so that’s you know it sounds like that’s

so that’s you know it sounds like that’s

so that’s you know it sounds like that’s so simple but really it’s a lot to get

so simple but really it’s a lot to get

so simple but really it’s a lot to get to know that audience especially because

to know that audience especially because

to know that audience especially because Evan as you all know when we start out

Evan as you all know when we start out

Evan as you all know when we start out on YouTube where we start out on

on YouTube where we start out on

on YouTube where we start out on Facebook our audience looks like this

Facebook our audience looks like this

Facebook our audience looks like this right so it’s hard to get that feedback

right so it’s hard to get that feedback

right so it’s hard to get that feedback at that time and that’s where you dive

at that time and that’s where you dive

at that time and that’s where you dive in deeper to what your message is so for

in deeper to what your message is so for

in deeper to what your message is so for me when I came into the marketplace as a

me when I came into the marketplace as a

me when I came into the marketplace as a brand journalist I saw that what was

brand journalist I saw that what was

brand journalist I saw that what was missing is in this mass body of content

missing is in this mass body of content

missing is in this mass body of content marketing there’s this world of all

marketing there’s this world of all

marketing there’s this world of all right let’s let’s get all this

right let’s let’s get all this

right let’s let’s get all this information out let’s be helpful to the

information out let’s be helpful to the

information out let’s be helpful to the consumer but there wasn’t this mindset

consumer but there wasn’t this mindset

consumer but there wasn’t this mindset of let’s think like a

of let’s think like a

of let’s think like a journalist but actually you know take

journalist but actually you know take

journalist but actually you know take some of the tools that journalists have

some of the tools that journalists have

some of the tools that journalists have because they’re really good storytellers

because they’re really good storytellers

because they’re really good storytellers and they’re good at identifying who the

and they’re good at identifying who the

and they’re good at identifying who the audiences and what the audience wants

audiences and what the audience wants

audiences and what the audience wants and let’s bring that into the marketing

and let’s bring that into the marketing

and let’s bring that into the marketing world and that’s sort of the gap the

world and that’s sort of the gap the

world and that’s sort of the gap the place that I love to play in I love us

place that I love to play in I love us

place that I love to play in I love us you’ve got entrepreneurs who are

you’ve got entrepreneurs who are

you’ve got entrepreneurs who are starting out if we use YouTube as an

starting out if we use YouTube as an

starting out if we use YouTube as an example you know they have zero audience

example you know they have zero audience

example you know they have zero audience so they’re trying to build up their

so they’re trying to build up their

so they’re trying to build up their audience they’re trying to figure out

audience they’re trying to figure out

audience they’re trying to figure out that branding maybe don’t even know who

that branding maybe don’t even know who

that branding maybe don’t even know who they’re going after yet does it then you

they’re going after yet does it then you

they’re going after yet does it then you know if you’re thinking about starting

know if you’re thinking about starting

know if you’re thinking about starting with yourself starting with your story

with yourself starting with your story

with yourself starting with your story starting with what you stand for how do

starting with what you stand for how do

starting with what you stand for how do you figure that out to then create a

you figure that out to then create a

you figure that out to then create a message like what’s that first story

message like what’s that first story

message like what’s that first story that I want to tell somebody to also

that I want to tell somebody to also

that I want to tell somebody to also attract the right people because in a

attract the right people because in a

attract the right people because in a market like YouTube there’s so many

market like YouTube there’s so many

market like YouTube there’s so many types of people you know the content i

types of people you know the content i

types of people you know the content i create is geared towards entrepreneurs

create is geared towards entrepreneurs

create is geared towards entrepreneurs although we have other people who watch

although we have other people who watch

although we have other people who watch it it’s a reflection of what I’m

it it’s a reflection of what I’m

it it’s a reflection of what I’m interested in and I’ve attracted people

interested in and I’ve attracted people

interested in and I’ve attracted people interested in a share so how do people

interested in a share so how do people

interested in a share so how do people figure out what their story is to put

figure out what their story is to put

figure out what their story is to put out there you talk about storytelling so

out there you talk about storytelling so

out there you talk about storytelling so like what’s the first story that I need

like what’s the first story that I need

like what’s the first story that I need to tell as a new entrepreneur or someone

to tell as a new entrepreneur or someone

to tell as a new entrepreneur or someone is creating a YouTube channel okay so

is creating a YouTube channel okay so

is creating a YouTube channel okay so what you first want to do is again when

what you first want to do is again when

what you first want to do is again when you start with the audience you’re going

you start with the audience you’re going

you start with the audience you’re going to look at if you don’t have an audience

to look at if you don’t have an audience

to look at if you don’t have an audience at first so let’s just take it from your

at first so let’s just take it from your

at first so let’s just take it from your brand new business and you’re rolling

brand new business and you’re rolling

brand new business and you’re rolling outdoors you have an idea in a concept

outdoors you have an idea in a concept

outdoors you have an idea in a concept obviously that idea and concept came

obviously that idea and concept came

obviously that idea and concept came from somewhere so like I said as a brand

from somewhere so like I said as a brand

from somewhere so like I said as a brand journalist I saw okay there’s a lot of

journalist I saw okay there’s a lot of

journalist I saw okay there’s a lot of content marketers but not a lot of them

content marketers but not a lot of them

content marketers but not a lot of them have the skill set that journalists have

have the skill set that journalists have

have the skill set that journalists have so if I created a show my podcast the

so if I created a show my podcast the

so if I created a show my podcast the brand journalism advantage and I talk to

brand journalism advantage and I talk to

brand journalism advantage and I talk to you about storytelling and I talk to you

you about storytelling and I talk to you

you about storytelling and I talk to you about the way that journalists actually

about the way that journalists actually

about the way that journalists actually conduct interviews because there’s

conduct interviews because there’s

conduct interviews because there’s certain things certain triggers so for

certain things certain triggers so for

certain things certain triggers so for instance on in the book contagious with

instance on in the book contagious with

instance on in the book contagious with Jonah Berger haven’t had him on my show

Jonah Berger haven’t had him on my show

Jonah Berger haven’t had him on my show but he’s remarkable in and of itself the

but he’s remarkable in and of itself the

but he’s remarkable in and of itself the book and his philosophy he talks about

book and his philosophy he talks about

book and his philosophy he talks about things like how to get people

things like how to get people

things like how to get people communicating more so a lot of of what

communicating more so a lot of of what

communicating more so a lot of of what should go into what I’m trying to do is

should go into what I’m trying to do is

should go into what I’m trying to do is answer these

answer these

answer these asians that people can’t find everywhere

asians that people can’t find everywhere

asians that people can’t find everywhere else right because otherwise I become

else right because otherwise I become

else right because otherwise I become you know it becomes very diluted so when

you know it becomes very diluted so when

you know it becomes very diluted so when you look at starting your first video

you look at starting your first video

you look at starting your first video the first thing I can say is look at

the first thing I can say is look at

the first thing I can say is look at what is the problem and then answer that

what is the problem and then answer that

what is the problem and then answer that problem in the unique position that you

problem in the unique position that you

problem in the unique position that you will solve it so how are you able to

will solve it so how are you able to

will solve it so how are you able to address that problem how are you able to

address that problem how are you able to

address that problem how are you able to give them a solution and that’s one of

give them a solution and that’s one of

give them a solution and that’s one of the first videos i would do even before

the first videos i would do even before

the first videos i would do even before you start to do a branding business

you start to do a branding business

you start to do a branding business video about your overall business has a

video about your overall business has a

video about your overall business has a lot of people want to do that they want

lot of people want to do that they want

lot of people want to do that they want to do the profile what i’ll call profile

to do the profile what i’ll call profile

to do the profile what i’ll call profile video for lack of a better word I’m so

video for lack of a better word I’m so

video for lack of a better word I’m so and so this is what I do this is my life

and so this is what I do this is my life

and so this is what I do this is my life story if you think about it how is that

story if you think about it how is that

story if you think about it how is that really relevant to your audience if I

really relevant to your audience if I

really relevant to your audience if I don’t know you and quite frankly don’t

don’t know you and quite frankly don’t

don’t know you and quite frankly don’t really care about you so if you first

really care about you so if you first

really care about you so if you first tell me here’s this problem that I think

tell me here’s this problem that I think

tell me here’s this problem that I think you probably share with me that’s why

you probably share with me that’s why

you probably share with me that’s why you’re joining this community and we’re

you’re joining this community and we’re

you’re joining this community and we’re going to solve this problem and as we go

going to solve this problem and as we go

going to solve this problem and as we go along you’re going to learn a little bit

along you’re going to learn a little bit

along you’re going to learn a little bit more about me in my 315 episodes of the

more about me in my 315 episodes of the

more about me in my 315 episodes of the brand journalism advantage podcast

brand journalism advantage podcast

brand journalism advantage podcast people learn more about me and about the

people learn more about me and about the

people learn more about me and about the different things that I did in the

different things that I did in the

different things that I did in the marketing space for the ABC station out

marketing space for the ABC station out

marketing space for the ABC station out here and what I’ve done for brands but I

here and what I’ve done for brands but I

here and what I’ve done for brands but I didn’t start out with that I started out

didn’t start out with that I started out

didn’t start out with that I started out with like I said we need to bring these

with like I said we need to bring these

with like I said we need to bring these journalistic skills into content

journalistic skills into content

journalistic skills into content marketing because content marketing

marketing because content marketing

marketing because content marketing alone um has some benefits but without

alone um has some benefits but without

alone um has some benefits but without telling your story in a newsworthy style

telling your story in a newsworthy style

telling your story in a newsworthy style it lacks a lot of credibility so the

it lacks a lot of credibility so the

it lacks a lot of credibility so the other thing I would look at is looking

other thing I would look at is looking

other thing I would look at is looking at hashtags trending hashtags what I

at hashtags trending hashtags what I

at hashtags trending hashtags what I call piggyback journalism the stories

call piggyback journalism the stories

call piggyback journalism the stories that are in the market place right now

that are in the market place right now

that are in the market place right now so if you’re a local brand of brick and

so if you’re a local brand of brick and

so if you’re a local brand of brick and mortar store and online business look in

mortar store and online business look in

mortar store and online business look in the surrounding area for the stories

the surrounding area for the stories

the surrounding area for the stories that are already trending and piggyback

that are already trending and piggyback

that are already trending and piggyback on that maybe your very first youtube

on that maybe your very first youtube

on that maybe your very first youtube video has to do with something that’s

video has to do with something that’s

video has to do with something that’s trending right now

trending right now

trending right now so you can see how that’s not as much

so you can see how that’s not as much

so you can see how that’s not as much about me me me the business me the brand

about me me me the business me the brand

about me me me the business me the brand it’s about what I have in here my

it’s about what I have in here my

it’s about what I have in here my thought leadership my advice and putting

thought leadership my advice and putting

thought leadership my advice and putting that out so in the old days before

that out so in the old days before

that out so in the old days before YouTube before Facebook lodge before

YouTube before Facebook lodge before

YouTube before Facebook lodge before Instagram stories the way we did this

Instagram stories the way we did this

Instagram stories the way we did this brands did this is they you know typed

brands did this is they you know typed

brands did this is they you know typed out their press release they got their

out their press release they got their

out their press release they got their Wizard of a PR person to send that press

Wizard of a PR person to send that press

Wizard of a PR person to send that press release out to somebody who was sitting

release out to somebody who was sitting

release out to somebody who was sitting you know in the anchor studio like me

you know in the anchor studio like me

you know in the anchor studio like me and tried to track me down and help me

and tried to track me down and help me

and tried to track me down and help me down and say I want to you know tell my

down and say I want to you know tell my

down and say I want to you know tell my viewpoint on this that was the old style

viewpoint on this that was the old style

viewpoint on this that was the old style way of it and the brands that were

way of it and the brands that were

way of it and the brands that were successful the CEOs and c-suite

successful the CEOs and c-suite

successful the CEOs and c-suite executives that got onto the news didn’t

executives that got onto the news didn’t

executives that got onto the news didn’t just want to talk about their brand they

just want to talk about their brand they

just want to talk about their brand they identified was something that was

identified was something that was

identified was something that was happening in the news trending in the

happening in the news trending in the

happening in the news trending in the news piggyback journalism and they gave

news piggyback journalism and they gave

news piggyback journalism and they gave their viewpoint on it maybe that didn’t

their viewpoint on it maybe that didn’t

their viewpoint on it maybe that didn’t even have anything to do with their

even have anything to do with their

even have anything to do with their business but let me give you a little

business but let me give you a little

business but let me give you a little idea or an example of this because I

idea or an example of this because I

idea or an example of this because I know it can be a little bit confusing

know it can be a little bit confusing

know it can be a little bit confusing but when I give you the example I think

but when I give you the example I think

but when I give you the example I think you’ll start to see like oh totally this

you’ll start to see like oh totally this

you’ll start to see like oh totally this happens all the time so let’s say you

happens all the time so let’s say you

happens all the time so let’s say you have a Nicole I outbreak right that was

have a Nicole I outbreak right that was

have a Nicole I outbreak right that was a story that happens all the time you

a story that happens all the time you

a story that happens all the time you get you know one of these fast-food

get you know one of these fast-food

get you know one of these fast-food chains there’s Nicole I outbreak and

chains there’s Nicole I outbreak and

chains there’s Nicole I outbreak and maybe sadly people die or you know

maybe sadly people die or you know

maybe sadly people die or you know best-case scenario they just get a

best-case scenario they just get a

best-case scenario they just get a little ill that’s on a story that has a

little ill that’s on a story that has a

little ill that’s on a story that has a lot of longevity in the news you know if

lot of longevity in the news you know if

lot of longevity in the news you know if you watch any local news station even

you watch any local news station even

you watch any local news station even you know national news they’ll pick it

you know national news they’ll pick it

you know national news they’ll pick it up and they’ll run with that story so

up and they’ll run with that story so

up and they’ll run with that story so now if you are a cooking school or you

now if you are a cooking school or you

now if you are a cooking school or you are a like a certain lahab no place like

are a like a certain lahab no place like

are a like a certain lahab no place like that if you know infiltrate into that by

that if you know infiltrate into that by

that if you know infiltrate into that by creating your own video that is

creating your own video that is

creating your own video that is following that trend of hey everybody’s

following that trend of hey everybody’s

following that trend of hey everybody’s talking about e.coli everybody’s talking

talking about e.coli everybody’s talking

talking about e.coli everybody’s talking around the water cooler about this you

around the water cooler about this you

around the water cooler about this you know place don’t go there to eat or you

know place don’t go there to eat or you

know place don’t go there to eat or you might get sick and now you come up with

might get sick and now you come up with

might get sick and now you come up with the story about you know the five ways

the story about you know the five ways

the story about you know the five ways to make sure your kitchen countertops on

to make sure your kitchen countertops on

to make sure your kitchen countertops on your kitchen is is perfectly clean and

your kitchen is is perfectly clean and

your kitchen is is perfectly clean and sanitized that’s a great story that the

sanitized that’s a great story that the

sanitized that’s a great story that the media might also be interested in and

media might also be interested in and

media might also be interested in and that’s where the term piggyback

that’s where the term piggyback

that’s where the term piggyback journalism comes in we can

journalism comes in we can

journalism comes in we can at the station they might do a big

at the station they might do a big

at the station they might do a big report at the top of the news in the a

report at the top of the news in the a

report at the top of the news in the a block that talks about the akola

block that talks about the akola

block that talks about the akola outbreak well in blocks see you know

outbreak well in blocks see you know

outbreak well in blocks see you know maybe 30 minutes down into the show we

maybe 30 minutes down into the show we

maybe 30 minutes down into the show we might run what we call a sidebar report

might run what we call a sidebar report

might run what we call a sidebar report or a team report and now I’m going over

or a team report and now I’m going over

or a team report and now I’m going over to the culinary school to talk about the

to the culinary school to talk about the

to the culinary school to talk about the best ways to keep your kitchen safe so

best ways to keep your kitchen safe so

best ways to keep your kitchen safe so that’s a great way to infiltrate into it

that’s a great way to infiltrate into it

that’s a great way to infiltrate into it with a youtube video that doesn’t even

with a youtube video that doesn’t even

with a youtube video that doesn’t even start with your profile story I love it

start with your profile story I love it

start with your profile story I love it well while that was great while you’re

well while that was great while you’re

well while that was great while you’re dropping some knowledge there people are

dropping some knowledge there people are

dropping some knowledge there people are enjoying it Jay rises saying he loves

enjoying it Jay rises saying he loves

enjoying it Jay rises saying he loves burgers contagious because awesome

burgers contagious because awesome

burgers contagious because awesome Bianca’s same great advice azusa same

Bianca’s same great advice azusa same

Bianca’s same great advice azusa same excellent uh so just figuring that out

excellent uh so just figuring that out

excellent uh so just figuring that out if there’s some hot trend that’s

if there’s some hot trend that’s

if there’s some hot trend that’s happening ecoli and i make a video about

happening ecoli and i make a video about

happening ecoli and i make a video about how to keep my countertops clean how do

how to keep my countertops clean how do

how to keep my countertops clean how do I then am I just counting on the

I then am I just counting on the

I then am I just counting on the reporters find you my video am i doing

reporters find you my video am i doing

reporters find you my video am i doing outreach to try to get on their plate or

outreach to try to get on their plate or

outreach to try to get on their plate or what do you suggest to make sure that

what do you suggest to make sure that

what do you suggest to make sure that video see ya so obviously we all know

video see ya so obviously we all know

video see ya so obviously we all know those of us who are content creators

those of us who are content creators

those of us who are content creators like yourself you know that the name of

like yourself you know that the name of

like yourself you know that the name of the game is in the distribution and that

the game is in the distribution and that

the game is in the distribution and that creating the content is one thing but

creating the content is one thing but

creating the content is one thing but you can have incredible content that

you can have incredible content that

you can have incredible content that goes nowhere so like in my days as a TV

goes nowhere so like in my days as a TV

goes nowhere so like in my days as a TV news reporter we relied solely on a 10

news reporter we relied solely on a 10

news reporter we relied solely on a 10 news at the time was the name of the

news at the time was the name of the

news at the time was the name of the game it was the biggest you know

game it was the biggest you know

game it was the biggest you know stationed in san diego at that time well

stationed in san diego at that time well

stationed in san diego at that time well market shares have totally changed so

market shares have totally changed so

market shares have totally changed so you can’t rely on that so you have to

you can’t rely on that so you have to

you can’t rely on that so you have to get the message out now there’s some key

get the message out now there’s some key

get the message out now there’s some key tips that i’m going to give you that are

tips that i’m going to give you that are

tips that i’m going to give you that are directed toward people like me the

directed toward people like me the

directed toward people like me the journalists right so one way to do that

journalists right so one way to do that

journalists right so one way to do that is something that actually i think is

is something that actually i think is

is something that actually i think is really important for people who also

really important for people who also

really important for people who also appear on interviews as guests like I’m

appear on interviews as guests like I’m

appear on interviews as guests like I’m doing right now so I am an interviewer

doing right now so I am an interviewer

doing right now so I am an interviewer for brand journalism advantage but right

for brand journalism advantage but right

for brand journalism advantage but right now I’m a guest on your show so I went

now I’m a guest on your show so I went

now I’m a guest on your show so I went through and of course I knew who you

through and of course I knew who you

through and of course I knew who you were we invited you to come on my

were we invited you to come on my

were we invited you to come on my podcast because of who you are but I

podcast because of who you are but I

podcast because of who you are but I also went through and really looked at

also went through and really looked at

also went through and really looked at your profile who you are and i gotta

your profile who you are and i gotta

your profile who you are and i gotta tell you um this is lacking for people

tell you um this is lacking for people

tell you um this is lacking for people interviewees all the time so it is a

interviewees all the time so it is a

interviewees all the time so it is a huge nono and the people listening all

huge nono and the people listening all

huge nono and the people listening all of you guys listening right now

of you guys listening right now

of you guys listening right now you may have an opportunity to be on a

you may have an opportunity to be on a

you may have an opportunity to be on a show at some point the number one thing

show at some point the number one thing

show at some point the number one thing you can do is look at the person’s show

you can do is look at the person’s show

you can do is look at the person’s show you know understand what they’re all

you know understand what they’re all

you know understand what they’re all about and get to know them so how does

about and get to know them so how does

about and get to know them so how does that translate to the question you asked

that translate to the question you asked

that translate to the question you asked me Evan the way it translates is this if

me Evan the way it translates is this if

me Evan the way it translates is this if you get to know a reporter you will know

you get to know a reporter you will know

you get to know a reporter you will know what that reporters beep is now some of

what that reporters beep is now some of

what that reporters beep is now some of us are called general assignment

us are called general assignment

us are called general assignment reporter but back in my day I was a

reporter but back in my day I was a

reporter but back in my day I was a general assignment reporter I was a news

general assignment reporter I was a news

general assignment reporter I was a news anchor but if you got to know me here in

anchor but if you got to know me here in

anchor but if you got to know me here in San Diego any long time sandy Aegon’s

San Diego any long time sandy Aegon’s

San Diego any long time sandy Aegon’s would remember I also was super big on

would remember I also was super big on

would remember I also was super big on fitness I was really big on wellness I

fitness I was really big on wellness I

fitness I was really big on wellness I was really into being a resource for the

was really into being a resource for the

was really into being a resource for the community so any time you came to me

community so any time you came to me

community so any time you came to me let’s say you were a non-profit you had

let’s say you were a non-profit you had

let’s say you were a non-profit you had a story that was going to better the

a story that was going to better the

a story that was going to better the world you know kind of like the the

world you know kind of like the the

world you know kind of like the the episode that I watched this morning that

episode that I watched this morning that

episode that I watched this morning that you were on with a guy from the UK

you were on with a guy from the UK

you were on with a guy from the UK talking about you know making the world

talking about you know making the world

talking about you know making the world a better place essentially that was

a better place essentially that was

a better place essentially that was actually a tagline for our brand at one

actually a tagline for our brand at one

actually a tagline for our brand at one time at the station and so if you know

time at the station and so if you know

time at the station and so if you know that about the reporter then you have to

that about the reporter then you have to

that about the reporter then you have to craft a pitch don’t just bang out a

craft a pitch don’t just bang out a

craft a pitch don’t just bang out a press release that’s you know 400 500

press release that’s you know 400 500

press release that’s you know 400 500 words send that same press release over

words send that same press release over

words send that same press release over and over to every single reporter it’s

and over to every single reporter it’s

and over to every single reporter it’s going to fail miserably so I’m you know

going to fail miserably so I’m you know

going to fail miserably so I’m you know over at think like a journalist calm i

over at think like a journalist calm i

over at think like a journalist calm i have several episodes in the podcast

have several episodes in the podcast

have several episodes in the podcast that talk about this but really this

that talk about this but really this

that talk about this but really this small strategy is just like going to a

small strategy is just like going to a

small strategy is just like going to a party and talking if you met a reporter

party and talking if you met a reporter

party and talking if you met a reporter there who is a sports reporter you might

there who is a sports reporter you might

there who is a sports reporter you might not be talking about your environmental

not be talking about your environmental

not be talking about your environmental story I mean maybe there’s some

story I mean maybe there’s some

story I mean maybe there’s some crossover but chances are that’s not the

crossover but chances are that’s not the

crossover but chances are that’s not the right reporter for the story because

right reporter for the story because

right reporter for the story because there be boys so believe it or not I

there be boys so believe it or not I

there be boys so believe it or not I mean you know I say this and people go

mean you know I say this and people go

mean you know I say this and people go oh yeah sure I know that but then they

oh yeah sure I know that but then they

oh yeah sure I know that but then they sit down they go or they contact their

sit down they go or they contact their

sit down they go or they contact their PR person and guess what happens a

PR person and guess what happens a

PR person and guess what happens a generic press release goes out and guess

generic press release goes out and guess

generic press release goes out and guess where that goes that circular file bit

where that goes that circular file bit

where that goes that circular file bit on the floor so I mean or nowadays in

on the floor so I mean or nowadays in

on the floor so I mean or nowadays in the digital world that you know goes

the digital world that you know goes

the digital world that you know goes quickly to the trash bin so I think if

quickly to the trash bin so I think if

quickly to the trash bin so I think if people get that

people get that

people get that go he it’s all about a connection you

go he it’s all about a connection you

go he it’s all about a connection you know and I’m going to check you out and

know and I’m going to check you out and

know and I’m going to check you out and then I’m gonna look smarter on your show

then I’m gonna look smarter on your show

then I’m gonna look smarter on your show because I’ve studied you and because I

because I’ve studied you and because I

because I’ve studied you and because I know something so one last tip there

know something so one last tip there

know something so one last tip there with working with reporters if you can

with working with reporters if you can

with working with reporters if you can find something like okay I know

find something like okay I know

find something like okay I know someone’s really researched me when they

someone’s really researched me when they

someone’s really researched me when they can go on the web and they go tell me

can go on the web and they go tell me

can go on the web and they go tell me about that hula picture okay that I go

about that hula picture okay that I go

about that hula picture okay that I go oh ok so for years I was a professional

oh ok so for years I was a professional

oh ok so for years I was a professional hula dancer I danced at the Hanalei here

hula dancer I danced at the Hanalei here

hula dancer I danced at the Hanalei here in San Diego and it was a big part of my

in San Diego and it was a big part of my

in San Diego and it was a big part of my life so if you can find something that’s

life so if you can find something that’s

life so if you can find something that’s relevant to the reporter doesn’t have to

relevant to the reporter doesn’t have to

relevant to the reporter doesn’t have to be on topic and you bring that in not

be on topic and you bring that in not

be on topic and you bring that in not only is it like what I call on my show

only is it like what I call on my show

only is it like what I call on my show we do an icebreaker I’m really pressing

we do an icebreaker I’m really pressing

we do an icebreaker I’m really pressing the guest tell me something that you’re

the guest tell me something that you’re

the guest tell me something that you’re not just sharing with everyone something

not just sharing with everyone something

not just sharing with everyone something that’s interesting to get us into it it

that’s interesting to get us into it it

that’s interesting to get us into it it warms up the conversation so you’re

warms up the conversation so you’re

warms up the conversation so you’re doing the same thing with the reporter

doing the same thing with the reporter

doing the same thing with the reporter you’re warming up the conversation

you’re warming up the conversation

you’re warming up the conversation you’re inviting them in you’re letting

you’re inviting them in you’re letting

you’re inviting them in you’re letting them know hey I’m not just trying to get

them know hey I’m not just trying to get

them know hey I’m not just trying to get something from you I care about you and

something from you I care about you and

something from you I care about you and I want to make you look good in front of

I want to make you look good in front of

I want to make you look good in front of your audience because I get that you’re

your audience because I get that you’re

your audience because I get that you’re a business and businesses need people

a business and businesses need people

a business and businesses need people following them so if i make you look

following them so if i make you look

following them so if i make you look good by offering this story you’re

good by offering this story you’re

good by offering this story you’re probably going to cover it right and one

probably going to cover it right and one

probably going to cover it right and one last tip on that make it easy for them

last tip on that make it easy for them

last tip on that make it easy for them to identify i figure out the story and

to identify i figure out the story and

to identify i figure out the story and get the story so what do I mean by that

get the story so what do I mean by that

get the story so what do I mean by that i mean i’m going to use an example if

i mean i’m going to use an example if

i mean i’m going to use an example if everybody knows him Richard Branson but

everybody knows him Richard Branson but

everybody knows him Richard Branson but if you go to his blog Ruby and from Ruby

if you go to his blog Ruby and from Ruby

if you go to his blog Ruby and from Ruby Ruby set up as its own what I’ll call

Ruby set up as its own what I’ll call

Ruby set up as its own what I’ll call media property so it’s ok a less fancy

media property so it’s ok a less fancy

media property so it’s ok a less fancy term a blog right but what he’s really

term a blog right but what he’s really

term a blog right but what he’s really doing is he’s become the media using

doing is he’s become the media using

doing is he’s become the media using that outlet and he talks to his audience

that outlet and he talks to his audience

that outlet and he talks to his audience murder we talked at the start of the

murder we talked at the start of the

murder we talked at the start of the show that avatar he knows that person

show that avatar he knows that person

show that avatar he knows that person well and it’s really for the airlines so

well and it’s really for the airlines so

well and it’s really for the airlines so his airlines that he operates so what he

his airlines that he operates so what he

his airlines that he operates so what he does is from there he takes you if you

does is from there he takes you if you

does is from there he takes you if you scroll down and you’re a journalist like

scroll down and you’re a journalist like

scroll down and you’re a journalist like myself I’m going to scroll down I’m

myself I’m going to scroll down I’m

myself I’m going to scroll down I’m going to dig a little deeper and I can

going to dig a little deeper and I can

going to dig a little deeper and I can easily get to his media outlet that is a

easily get to his media outlet that is a

easily get to his media outlet that is a brand newsroom now the majority of

brand newsroom now the majority of

brand newsroom now the majority of entrepreneurs and I don’t care how small

entrepreneurs and I don’t care how small

entrepreneurs and I don’t care how small you are won’t have this but should have

you are won’t have this but should have

you are won’t have this but should have it they should have a brand newsroom

it they should have a brand newsroom

it they should have a brand newsroom with their media kit that tells a little

with their media kit that tells a little

with their media kit that tells a little bit about them where I can access your

bit about them where I can access your

bit about them where I can access your headshot where I can access your logo

headshot where I can access your logo

headshot where I can access your logo where I can access your videos to

where I can access your videos to

where I can access your videos to download and you need to tell me is it

download and you need to tell me is it

download and you need to tell me is it okay for me to use this stuff because if

okay for me to use this stuff because if

okay for me to use this stuff because if I want to use it and I’m on a deadline

I want to use it and I’m on a deadline

I want to use it and I’m on a deadline I’m not going to go track you down I’m

I’m not going to go track you down I’m

I’m not going to go track you down I’m going to just say oh I can use this or

going to just say oh I can use this or

going to just say oh I can use this or if I can’t if I can’t find it I’m gonna

if I can’t if I can’t find it I’m gonna

if I can’t if I can’t find it I’m gonna say forget about it I’m going somewhere

say forget about it I’m going somewhere

say forget about it I’m going somewhere else because there’s someone else very

else because there’s someone else very

else because there’s someone else very easy for me to feature on CNN or in the

easy for me to feature on CNN or in the

easy for me to feature on CNN or in the New York Times so make yourself

New York Times so make yourself

New York Times so make yourself accessible have all that there and it’s

accessible have all that there and it’s

accessible have all that there and it’s sort of that mindset of you know back in

sort of that mindset of you know back in

sort of that mindset of you know back in the old days when we used to say you

the old days when we used to say you

the old days when we used to say you know if you want to be something dress

know if you want to be something dress

know if you want to be something dress the part so no be what you want to be

the part so no be what you want to be

the part so no be what you want to be even if you feel like I’m not that huge

even if you feel like I’m not that huge

even if you feel like I’m not that huge brand live like you are that huge friend

brand live like you are that huge friend

brand live like you are that huge friend now and believe right along vertical

now and believe right along vertical

now and believe right along vertical yeah totally cool that’s a lot of value

yeah totally cool that’s a lot of value

yeah totally cool that’s a lot of value in a few short minutes there we’ve got a

in a few short minutes there we’ve got a

in a few short minutes there we’ve got a live audience we got people asking

live audience we got people asking

live audience we got people asking questions who want to give a shout out

questions who want to give a shout out

questions who want to give a shout out to some of them uh she rises asking I

to some of them uh she rises asking I

to some of them uh she rises asking I guess because you talked about video

guess because you talked about video

guess because you talked about video content you talked about storytelling

content you talked about storytelling

content you talked about storytelling he’s asking is there a difference

he’s asking is there a difference

he’s asking is there a difference between video and visual storytelling if

between video and visual storytelling if

between video and visual storytelling if so what and how important is it is there

so what and how important is it is there

so what and how important is it is there a sec okay I’m sorry I missed that last

a sec okay I’m sorry I missed that last

a sec okay I’m sorry I missed that last part is there a difference between video

part is there a difference between video

part is there a difference between video is there a difference between video and

is there a difference between video and

is there a difference between video and visual storytelling okay so on when I

visual storytelling okay so on when I

visual storytelling okay so on when I called myself a multimedia brand

called myself a multimedia brand

called myself a multimedia brand journalist I meant that I trans that I

journalist I meant that I trans that I

journalist I meant that I trans that I go across all platforms so um when we’re

go across all platforms so um when we’re

go across all platforms so um when we’re talking about storytelling you can have

talking about storytelling you can have

talking about storytelling you can have visual which I would say is like you

visual which I would say is like you

visual which I would say is like you know your photo journalism and

know your photo journalism and

know your photo journalism and photojournalism can be incredibly

photojournalism can be incredibly

photojournalism can be incredibly powerful so think about Instagram one of

powerful so think about Instagram one of

powerful so think about Instagram one of the best tips i actually got you know um

the best tips i actually got you know um

the best tips i actually got you know um from one of my guests on on the brand

from one of my guests on on the brand

from one of my guests on on the brand journalism advantage podcast is to make

journalism advantage podcast is to make

journalism advantage podcast is to make their feed in instagram tell a story all

their feed in instagram tell a story all

their feed in instagram tell a story all the way through

the way through

the way through as opposed to a lot of us just jump on

as opposed to a lot of us just jump on

as opposed to a lot of us just jump on Instagram or me we might have a strategy

Instagram or me we might have a strategy

Instagram or me we might have a strategy but what we do is we kind of just post a

but what we do is we kind of just post a

but what we do is we kind of just post a bunch of different stuff but if you

bunch of different stuff but if you

bunch of different stuff but if you think about it there is a way to

think about it there is a way to

think about it there is a way to structure that so that it has this story

structure that so that it has this story

structure that so that it has this story all the way through so I would call that

all the way through so I would call that

all the way through so I would call that visual storytelling do you remember when

visual storytelling do you remember when

visual storytelling do you remember when you would be driving on a long path like

you would be driving on a long path like

you would be driving on a long path like a road and you would see these these ads

a road and you would see these these ads

a road and you would see these these ads they would be billboards right and it

they would be billboards right and it

they would be billboards right and it was um was a barbasol I believe that the

was um was a barbasol I believe that the

was um was a barbasol I believe that the shaving cream right i mean i’m dating

shaving cream right i mean i’m dating

shaving cream right i mean i’m dating myself now but you would see these ads

myself now but you would see these ads

myself now but you would see these ads and they would kind of tell a story one

and they would kind of tell a story one

and they would kind of tell a story one after the other that’s visual

after the other that’s visual

after the other that’s visual storytelling so what I love about video

storytelling so what I love about video

storytelling so what I love about video storytelling is video story telling has

storytelling is video story telling has

storytelling is video story telling has the ability to do what we’re doing here

the ability to do what we’re doing here

the ability to do what we’re doing here if I were just doing print or I were

if I were just doing print or I were

if I were just doing print or I were putting a blog post up and I were you

putting a blog post up and I were you

putting a blog post up and I were you know I was putting photos you get one

know I was putting photos you get one

know I was putting photos you get one aspect but one of the key things about

aspect but one of the key things about

aspect but one of the key things about TV and I’ve worked in everything from

TV and I’ve worked in everything from

TV and I’ve worked in everything from you know when I first started my

you know when I first started my

you know when I first started my journalism career was 19 and I was

journalism career was 19 and I was

journalism career was 19 and I was working in radio then I went to the

working in radio then I went to the

working in radio then I went to the magazine industry and my real goal is I

magazine industry and my real goal is I

magazine industry and my real goal is I want to be on TV and why I want to be on

want to be on TV and why I want to be on

want to be on TV and why I want to be on TV is all of the elements come together

TV is all of the elements come together

TV is all of the elements come together you know you can feel my passion you can

you know you can feel my passion you can

you know you can feel my passion you can you see the expression on my face and

you see the expression on my face and

you see the expression on my face and you know all of that is so important so

you know all of that is so important so

you know all of that is so important so a video storytelling one of the key

a video storytelling one of the key

a video storytelling one of the key ingredients for a brand to be successful

ingredients for a brand to be successful

ingredients for a brand to be successful really important is to make use of what

really important is to make use of what

really important is to make use of what we call in the TV news industry natural

we call in the TV news industry natural

we call in the TV news industry natural sound or ambience sound so there is

sound or ambience sound so there is

sound or ambience sound so there is always that space for it but a lot of

always that space for it but a lot of

always that space for it but a lot of people don’t know how to use this you

people don’t know how to use this you

people don’t know how to use this you know they’re afraid of dead air if you

know they’re afraid of dead air if you

know they’re afraid of dead air if you will well I’m not talking about the

will well I’m not talking about the

will well I’m not talking about the dinner i’m talking about that moment

dinner i’m talking about that moment

dinner i’m talking about that moment where there’s that beat of let me give

where there’s that beat of let me give

where there’s that beat of let me give you an example and then i will tell you

you an example and then i will tell you

you an example and then i will tell you you know at the end of this where you

you know at the end of this where you

you know at the end of this where you can go to see an example of it but but i

can go to see an example of it but but i

can go to see an example of it but but i shot a video very quick video for a

shot a video very quick video for a

shot a video very quick video for a class I teach on iphone storytelling and

class I teach on iphone storytelling and

class I teach on iphone storytelling and what we talked about was how to use

what we talked about was how to use

what we talked about was how to use these different angles using five shots

these different angles using five shots

these different angles using five shots you can shoot a video just five shots so

you can shoot a video just five shots so

you can shoot a video just five shots so that means you can do you know the head

that means you can do you know the head

that means you can do you know the head and shoulders which you see on the new

and shoulders which you see on the new

and shoulders which you see on the new you can do an over-the-shoulder shot

you can do an over-the-shoulder shot

you can do an over-the-shoulder shot looking over my shoulder at what I’m

looking over my shoulder at what I’m

looking over my shoulder at what I’m doing down here if I’m you know messing

doing down here if I’m you know messing

doing down here if I’m you know messing with my iPhone or something like that in

with my iPhone or something like that in

with my iPhone or something like that in this case it was about cigar rolling and

this case it was about cigar rolling and

this case it was about cigar rolling and and while I do have another brand called

and while I do have another brand called

and while I do have another brand called the plant-based diet calm and I promote

the plant-based diet calm and I promote

the plant-based diet calm and I promote healthy living this just fit perfectly

healthy living this just fit perfectly

healthy living this just fit perfectly nothing against the guards or anything

nothing against the guards or anything

nothing against the guards or anything like that but it fit perfectly because

like that but it fit perfectly because

like that but it fit perfectly because if you’ve ever watched how they do this

if you’ve ever watched how they do this

if you’ve ever watched how they do this there’s a series of things that they’re

there’s a series of things that they’re

there’s a series of things that they’re doing to roll the cigar right and get it

doing to roll the cigar right and get it

doing to roll the cigar right and get it ready and I had no idea but it made the

ready and I had no idea but it made the

ready and I had no idea but it made the coolest video so I was in downtown San

coolest video so I was in downtown San

coolest video so I was in downtown San Diego I shot it all with my iPhone I

Diego I shot it all with my iPhone I

Diego I shot it all with my iPhone I shot it in maybe two minutes time I put

shot it in maybe two minutes time I put

shot it in maybe two minutes time I put it to music and now that can make a

it to music and now that can make a

it to music and now that can make a great little Instagram video for that

great little Instagram video for that

great little Instagram video for that particular brand that particular

particular brand that particular

particular brand that particular business because it’s just a cool thing

business because it’s just a cool thing

business because it’s just a cool thing but when I was talking about the nat

but when I was talking about the nat

but when I was talking about the nat sound there’s one shot in there we’re

sound there’s one shot in there we’re

sound there’s one shot in there we’re with the UM with the cigar after you get

with the UM with the cigar after you get

with the UM with the cigar after you get to a certain point you click off the end

to a certain point you click off the end

to a certain point you click off the end of it right and it goes like that that’s

of it right and it goes like that that’s

of it right and it goes like that that’s a little piece of nat sound and you go

a little piece of nat sound and you go

a little piece of nat sound and you go do i need that most of the time people

do i need that most of the time people

do i need that most of the time people won’t recognize it they won’t hear it

won’t recognize it they won’t hear it

won’t recognize it they won’t hear it they’re not attuned to it and they won’t

they’re not attuned to it and they won’t

they’re not attuned to it and they won’t use it but using that in a shot is what

use it but using that in a shot is what

use it but using that in a shot is what changes just basic videos to a level of

changes just basic videos to a level of

changes just basic videos to a level of storytelling and cinematography so a tip

storytelling and cinematography so a tip

storytelling and cinematography so a tip on that if you want to learn this kind

on that if you want to learn this kind

on that if you want to learn this kind of thing watch trailers movie trailers

of thing watch trailers movie trailers

of thing watch trailers movie trailers are famous for doing this because

are famous for doing this because

are famous for doing this because they’ll put in little bits why are they

they’ll put in little bits why are they

they’ll put in little bits why are they doing it they want to tell you a quick

doing it they want to tell you a quick

doing it they want to tell you a quick story and they want to engage you so

story and they want to engage you so

story and they want to engage you so that you’ll watch the movie and go to it

that you’ll watch the movie and go to it

that you’ll watch the movie and go to it so if you follow the lead of what

so if you follow the lead of what

so if you follow the lead of what Hollywood does and you then you also

Hollywood does and you then you also

Hollywood does and you then you also watch news report where the news

watch news report where the news

watch news report where the news reporters are are creative and doing

reporters are are creative and doing

reporters are are creative and doing this because not all of them are but the

this because not all of them are but the

this because not all of them are but the ones that are really good tell stories

ones that are really good tell stories

ones that are really good tell stories like that and they don’t just tell it

like that and they don’t just tell it

like that and they don’t just tell it with their voice or the interviewee they

with their voice or the interviewee they

with their voice or the interviewee they tell it with natural sound that exact I

tell it with natural sound that exact I

tell it with natural sound that exact I make sense yeah well yeah Jerry’s asked

make sense yeah well yeah Jerry’s asked

make sense yeah well yeah Jerry’s asked the question is he’s in the chat not you

the question is he’s in the chat not you

the question is he’s in the chat not you saying a green audio is so important I’m

saying a green audio is so important I’m

saying a green audio is so important I’m in some particular movie trailers tell

in some particular movie trailers tell

in some particular movie trailers tell great stories so you guys are on the

great stories so you guys are on the

great stories so you guys are on the same page 2 it was really good another

same page 2 it was really good another

same page 2 it was really good another question coming from hey Zeus

question coming from hey Zeus

question coming from hey Zeus what is the best way to make remarkable

what is the best way to make remarkable

what is the best way to make remarkable supplement brand and I think he added

supplement brand and I think he added

supplement brand and I think he added that he’s doing protein shakes oh love

that he’s doing protein shakes oh love

that he’s doing protein shakes oh love it okay I’m just trying to understand

it okay I’m just trying to understand

it okay I’m just trying to understand what supplements Oh awesome okay honey

what supplements Oh awesome okay honey

what supplements Oh awesome okay honey mica so this is a good like tangible

mica so this is a good like tangible

mica so this is a good like tangible example right so see selling protein

example right so see selling protein

example right so see selling protein shakes yes yes no we have grand markable

shakes yes yes no we have grand markable

shakes yes yes no we have grand markable yeah okay so I’ve got three tips for you

yeah okay so I’ve got three tips for you

yeah okay so I’ve got three tips for you on this because this address is that how

on this because this address is that how

on this because this address is that how you make your brand remarkable the first

you make your brand remarkable the first

you make your brand remarkable the first I’m going to go through quickly and then

I’m going to go through quickly and then

I’m going to go through quickly and then we’ll we’ll backpedal into them first

we’ll we’ll backpedal into them first

we’ll we’ll backpedal into them first you’re going to put the consumer first

you’re going to put the consumer first

you’re going to put the consumer first second you’re going to tell stories that

second you’re going to tell stories that

second you’re going to tell stories that matter to that audience and then you’re

matter to that audience and then you’re

matter to that audience and then you’re going to build that community with all

going to build that community with all

going to build that community with all of this and the culture so how we

of this and the culture so how we

of this and the culture so how we backpedal into this without knowing what

backpedal into this without knowing what

backpedal into this without knowing what your supplement is and by the way we

your supplement is and by the way we

your supplement is and by the way we should connect offline after this

should connect offline after this

should connect offline after this because that’s what the plant-based diet

because that’s what the plant-based diet

because that’s what the plant-based diet does is it looks at supplements and it

does is it looks at supplements and it

does is it looks at supplements and it looks at all that healthy living stuff

looks at all that healthy living stuff

looks at all that healthy living stuff so I love love love that but in doing

so I love love love that but in doing

so I love love love that but in doing that the first thing you can do is start

that the first thing you can do is start

that the first thing you can do is start with your blog start with your videos

with your blog start with your videos

with your blog start with your videos and start with your growing your email

and start with your growing your email

and start with your growing your email database by producing content that

database by producing content that

database by producing content that matters so when I was on ten News I did

matters so when I was on ten News I did

matters so when I was on ten News I did a segment called keep fit with Phoebe

a segment called keep fit with Phoebe

a segment called keep fit with Phoebe this was a fitness segment that I hosted

this was a fitness segment that I hosted

this was a fitness segment that I hosted for a decade and initially quite frankly

for a decade and initially quite frankly

for a decade and initially quite frankly we started the segment because this is

we started the segment because this is

we started the segment because this is in the days when CNN was just kicking

in the days when CNN was just kicking

in the days when CNN was just kicking off and we had started this 24-hour news

off and we had started this 24-hour news

off and we had started this 24-hour news channel well guess what local news

channel well guess what local news

channel well guess what local news through not 24 hours to import the news

through not 24 hours to import the news

through not 24 hours to import the news so what did we do we did a five-minute a

so what did we do we did a five-minute a

so what did we do we did a five-minute a whopping five minute segment anybody

whopping five minute segment anybody

whopping five minute segment anybody who’s familiar with TV news knows that

who’s familiar with TV news knows that

who’s familiar with TV news knows that five minutes is a long ass time you know

five minutes is a long ass time you know

five minutes is a long ass time you know that I mean that’s like huge and TV news

that I mean that’s like huge and TV news

that I mean that’s like huge and TV news but we did it because we had to fill you

but we did it because we had to fill you

but we did it because we had to fill you know two hours of blocks of news at a

know two hours of blocks of news at a

know two hours of blocks of news at a time so in doing that I connected with

time so in doing that I connected with

time so in doing that I connected with the audience and I started to look at

the audience and I started to look at

the audience and I started to look at what’s important what I found was the

what’s important what I found was the

what’s important what I found was the fitness segment that was meaningful to

fitness segment that was meaningful to

fitness segment that was meaningful to the audience was to do exercises that

the audience was to do exercises that

the audience was to do exercises that you could do anywhere in the world

you could do anywhere in the world

you could do anywhere in the world meaning you could be on a plane you

meaning you could be on a plane you

meaning you could be on a plane you could be here at your desk you could do

could be here at your desk you could do

could be here at your desk you could do Pilates you could do yoga these

Pilates you could do yoga these

Pilates you could do yoga these stretches so I focused on that so

stretches so I focused on that so

stretches so I focused on that so I would start with taking my supplement

I would start with taking my supplement

I would start with taking my supplement and looking at who it best serves and

and looking at who it best serves and

and looking at who it best serves and then crafting videos for the people who

then crafting videos for the people who

then crafting videos for the people who are going to use it now what I would not

are going to use it now what I would not

are going to use it now what I would not do at first is I would not talk about

do at first is I would not talk about

do at first is I would not talk about its benefits and features so so what do

its benefits and features so so what do

its benefits and features so so what do I mean by that I mean on let me use an

I mean by that I mean on let me use an

I mean by that I mean on let me use an example the ipad when the ipad came out

example the ipad when the ipad came out

example the ipad when the ipad came out that you know then some of the newest

that you know then some of the newest

that you know then some of the newest versions Apple did an amazing remarkable

versions Apple did an amazing remarkable

versions Apple did an amazing remarkable commercial that didn’t talk to you at

commercial that didn’t talk to you at

commercial that didn’t talk to you at all about how to use the the ipad and

all about how to use the the ipad and

all about how to use the the ipad and what it can actually do for you as far

what it can actually do for you as far

what it can actually do for you as far as its storage and things like that they

as its storage and things like that they

as its storage and things like that they showed the ipad being used in the most

showed the ipad being used in the most

showed the ipad being used in the most creative settings sometimes i think they

creative settings sometimes i think they

creative settings sometimes i think they even used some stock footage and then

even used some stock footage and then

even used some stock footage and then other times they used you know original

other times they used you know original

other times they used you know original footage so in doing that they’re showing

footage so in doing that they’re showing

footage so in doing that they’re showing you and letting you feel it so we call

you and letting you feel it so we call

you and letting you feel it so we call this experiential marketing when you’re

this experiential marketing when you’re

this experiential marketing when you’re doing experiential marketing you are

doing experiential marketing you are

doing experiential marketing you are bringing me the consumer into it so

bringing me the consumer into it so

bringing me the consumer into it so you’re showing me what is this

you’re showing me what is this

you’re showing me what is this supplement going to do for me um you can

supplement going to do for me um you can

supplement going to do for me um you can tune into I have a youtube channel

tune into I have a youtube channel

tune into I have a youtube channel called the plant-based diet you can

called the plant-based diet you can

called the plant-based diet you can check out some of the stuff there I’ll

check out some of the stuff there I’ll

check out some of the stuff there I’ll interview vegans vegetarians I’ll do

interview vegans vegetarians I’ll do

interview vegans vegetarians I’ll do videos like this myself and it will

videos like this myself and it will

videos like this myself and it will showcase how you can be part of this

showcase how you can be part of this

showcase how you can be part of this community and what you can get from it

community and what you can get from it

community and what you can get from it so that’s what I would do in building a

so that’s what I would do in building a

so that’s what I would do in building a supplement brand and then I would

supplement brand and then I would

supplement brand and then I would structure all of my Instagram posts and

structure all of my Instagram posts and

structure all of my Instagram posts and photos I would take clips from the video

photos I would take clips from the video

photos I would take clips from the video you can pull those actual clips from the

you can pull those actual clips from the

you can pull those actual clips from the video if you want or you can shoot them

video if you want or you can shoot them

video if you want or you can shoot them separately or you can do behind the

separately or you can do behind the

separately or you can do behind the scenes people love behind the scenes and

scenes people love behind the scenes and

scenes people love behind the scenes and you can source that but the main thing

you can source that but the main thing

you can source that but the main thing you’re trying to do is get them to

you’re trying to do is get them to

you’re trying to do is get them to experience the difference it’s going to

experience the difference it’s going to

experience the difference it’s going to make so if you have somebody for example

make so if you have somebody for example

make so if you have somebody for example i interviewed michael dorn if you guys

i interviewed michael dorn if you guys

i interviewed michael dorn if you guys remember michael dorn from you know Star

remember michael dorn from you know Star

remember michael dorn from you know Star Trek The Next Generation he’s a hoot and

Trek The Next Generation he’s a hoot and

Trek The Next Generation he’s a hoot and I mean just I mean a total loved and I

I mean just I mean a total loved and I

I mean just I mean a total loved and I was awesome and when I had him on he was

was awesome and when I had him on he was

was awesome and when I had him on he was so spectacular because he just talked in

so spectacular because he just talked in

so spectacular because he just talked in you know plain terms about hey I had

you know plain terms about hey I had

you know plain terms about hey I had prostate cancer I went to the doctor and

prostate cancer I went to the doctor and

prostate cancer I went to the doctor and the doctor said people who

the doctor said people who

the doctor said people who need a mostly plant-based diet or an all

need a mostly plant-based diet or an all

need a mostly plant-based diet or an all plant-based diet are usually a lot

plant-based diet are usually a lot

plant-based diet are usually a lot healthier and when you shared that that

healthier and when you shared that that

healthier and when you shared that that carried so much more weight than any you

carried so much more weight than any you

carried so much more weight than any you know post or video that I could do that

know post or video that I could do that

know post or video that I could do that would just go through in bullet points

would just go through in bullet points

would just go through in bullet points or in plain terms like hey the

or in plain terms like hey the

or in plain terms like hey the plant-based diet is good for you because

plant-based diet is good for you because

plant-based diet is good for you because of XYZ right so it’s that experience he

of XYZ right so it’s that experience he

of XYZ right so it’s that experience he brought into it and there again because

brought into it and there again because

brought into it and there again because it was a video it was really emotional

it was a video it was really emotional

it was a video it was really emotional because you know he’s a cool guy and we

because you know he’s a cool guy and we

because you know he’s a cool guy and we could go back in time and look at what

could go back in time and look at what

could go back in time and look at what he’s done and tell a little bit of

he’s done and tell a little bit of

he’s done and tell a little bit of backstory and make it all relevant so

backstory and make it all relevant so

backstory and make it all relevant so okay I answer that question I love it

okay I answer that question I love it

okay I answer that question I love it yeah and we’re getting some some Worf

yeah and we’re getting some some Worf

yeah and we’re getting some some Worf shoutouts yeah totally he’s awesome yeah

shoutouts yeah totally he’s awesome yeah

shoutouts yeah totally he’s awesome yeah really I mean it’s crazy how quickly

really I mean it’s crazy how quickly

really I mean it’s crazy how quickly half an hour goes I know we need to wrap

half an hour goes I know we need to wrap

half an hour goes I know we need to wrap up there’s still a bunch of people have

up there’s still a bunch of people have

up there’s still a bunch of people have questions for people to learn more about

questions for people to learn more about

questions for people to learn more about you connect with you see what you’re up

you connect with you see what you’re up

you connect with you see what you’re up to where were you hanging out where’s

to where were you hanging out where’s

to where were you hanging out where’s the best place to get in touch okay so

the best place to get in touch okay so

the best place to get in touch okay so um i would tell you just google my name

um i would tell you just google my name

um i would tell you just google my name but I know that’s really hard to spell

but I know that’s really hard to spell

but I know that’s really hard to spell so just remember think like a journalist

so just remember think like a journalist

so just remember think like a journalist com that’s a hub I have several brands

com that’s a hub I have several brands

com that’s a hub I have several brands like I’ve mentioned the plant-based diet

like I’ve mentioned the plant-based diet

like I’ve mentioned the plant-based diet calm from that place you can find me all

calm from that place you can find me all

calm from that place you can find me all over I’ve got videos and I’m all over

over I’ve got videos and I’m all over

over I’ve got videos and I’m all over social media and I love love to do

social media and I love love to do

social media and I love love to do hangouts and a chat with people so I

hangouts and a chat with people so I

hangouts and a chat with people so I want to be a resource for you I love it

want to be a resource for you I love it

want to be a resource for you I love it well thank you for the time thank you

well thank you for the time thank you

well thank you for the time thank you guys so much for watching we’ll see you

guys so much for watching we’ll see you

guys so much for watching we’ll see you again next week Phoebe I am on the other

again next week Phoebe I am on the other

again next week Phoebe I am on the other side this time but not big you guys

side this time but not big you guys

side this time but not big you guys continue to believe or whatever your one

continue to believe or whatever your one

continue to believe or whatever your one word is and we’ll see you soon bye bye

word is and we’ll see you soon bye bye

word is and we’ll see you soon bye bye think like a journalist

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