[Applause] all humans speak the same language maybe
all humans speak the same language maybe
all humans speak the same language maybe not all of us can understand or talk
not all of us can understand or talk
not all of us can understand or talk speak English but all of us can
speak English but all of us can
speak English but all of us can understand and convey the universal
understand and convey the universal
understand and convey the universal language of joy sadness and pain I am a
language of joy sadness and pain I am a
language of joy sadness and pain I am a full-time poet and a part-time
full-time poet and a part-time
full-time poet and a part-time translator I’m currently in the midst of
translator I’m currently in the midst of
translator I’m currently in the midst of publishing my own poetry anthology with
publishing my own poetry anthology with
publishing my own poetry anthology with a Singaporean publisher and I’m also
a Singaporean publisher and I’m also
a Singaporean publisher and I’m also translating short stories by alley about
translating short stories by alley about
translating short stories by alley about a novice who is this Indonesian author
a novice who is this Indonesian author
a novice who is this Indonesian author my interest in these two areas of
my interest in these two areas of
my interest in these two areas of literature actually tried I actually
literature actually tried I actually
literature actually tried I actually tried to translate this poem that I
tried to translate this poem that I
tried to translate this poem that I wrote for our ex-governor Hawk and it’s
wrote for our ex-governor Hawk and it’s
wrote for our ex-governor Hawk and it’s really hard because well you’ll see why
really hard because well you’ll see why
really hard because well you’ll see why I started getting really serious with
I started getting really serious with
I started getting really serious with poetry and translation when I went to
poetry and translation when I went to
poetry and translation when I went to Columbia University for a summer session
Columbia University for a summer session
Columbia University for a summer session and I met this Danish translator called
and I met this Danish translator called
and I met this Danish translator called Cochin Jensen that same summer I went to
Cochin Jensen that same summer I went to
Cochin Jensen that same summer I went to go visit colleges in the US and I met
go visit colleges in the US and I met
go visit colleges in the US and I met this American boy we introduced
this American boy we introduced
this American boy we introduced ourselves to each other and when I told
ourselves to each other and when I told
ourselves to each other and when I told him where I was from
him where I was from
him where I was from he was like Indonesia what’s that and I
he was like Indonesia what’s that and I
he was like Indonesia what’s that and I was surprised but this experience
was surprised but this experience
was surprised but this experience actually made me realize that Indonesia
actually made me realize that Indonesia
actually made me realize that Indonesia isn’t very well known in the world and
isn’t very well known in the world and
isn’t very well known in the world and part of the reason behind this is
part of the reason behind this is
part of the reason behind this is because Indonesian literature does not
because Indonesian literature does not
because Indonesian literature does not have a prominent place this is because
have a prominent place this is because
have a prominent place this is because we do not have enough translators and in
we do not have enough translators and in
we do not have enough translators and in this context I use the word translators
this context I use the word translators
this context I use the word translators loosely not in the context of only
loosely not in the context of only
loosely not in the context of only Indonesian literature but in the context
Indonesian literature but in the context
Indonesian literature but in the context of world literature today ladies and
of world literature today ladies and
of world literature today ladies and gentlemen successful stories do get
gentlemen successful stories do get
gentlemen successful stories do get translated one of my favorite stories as
translated one of my favorite stories as
translated one of my favorite stories as a child Harry Potter has been translated
a child Harry Potter has been translated
a child Harry Potter has been translated into 68 different languages bahasa
into 68 different languages bahasa
into 68 different languages bahasa Indonesian included despite English
Indonesian included despite English
Indonesian included despite English being the most spoken language in the
being the most spoken language in the
being the most spoken language in the world translating foreign literature or
world translating foreign literature or
world translating foreign literature or literature in general opens the door to
literature in general opens the door to
literature in general opens the door to a more international audience JK Rowling
a more international audience JK Rowling
a more international audience JK Rowling once said no story lives unless someone
once said no story lives unless someone
once said no story lives unless someone wants to listen and the majority of
wants to listen and the majority of
wants to listen and the majority of people who want to listen are not part
people who want to listen are not part
people who want to listen are not part of a monoculture but are instead
of a monoculture but are instead
of a monoculture but are instead citizens of a diverse world literature
citizens of a diverse world literature
citizens of a diverse world literature is knowledge and knowledge should not be
is knowledge and knowledge should not be
is knowledge and knowledge should not be limited to a single audience but how
limited to a single audience but how
limited to a single audience but how else can we break the barrier of
else can we break the barrier of
else can we break the barrier of language if not through translation when
language if not through translation when
language if not through translation when I tell people that I translate it in
I tell people that I translate it in
I tell people that I translate it in Asian literature sometimes people are
Asian literature sometimes people are
Asian literature sometimes people are kind of judgmental like one time after
kind of judgmental like one time after
kind of judgmental like one time after ap Literature we studied a text by
ap Literature we studied a text by
ap Literature we studied a text by Gabriel Garcia Marquez which was a
Gabriel Garcia Marquez which was a
Gabriel Garcia Marquez which was a translated short story and my friend
translated short story and my friend
translated short story and my friend came up to me and she told me that all
came up to me and she told me that all
came up to me and she told me that all this while she had perceived translation
this while she had perceived translation
this while she had perceived translation with a tinge of condescension but this
with a tinge of condescension but this
with a tinge of condescension but this isn’t the first time I’ve heard such a
isn’t the first time I’ve heard such a
isn’t the first time I’ve heard such a remark see a lot of people attribute the
remark see a lot of people attribute the
remark see a lot of people attribute the art of translation as purely a work of
art of translation as purely a work of
art of translation as purely a work of Google Translate which is every foreign
Google Translate which is every foreign
Google Translate which is every foreign language students best friend and yeah
language students best friend and yeah
language students best friend and yeah sometimes I do use Google Translate if I
sometimes I do use Google Translate if I
sometimes I do use Google Translate if I don’t know how a word can translate
don’t know how a word can translate
don’t know how a word can translate nicely into English or if I want to find
nicely into English or if I want to find
nicely into English or if I want to find out a synonym of a word but as a
out a synonym of a word but as a
out a synonym of a word but as a translator
translator
translator I can’t rely on a programmed machine to
I can’t rely on a programmed machine to
I can’t rely on a programmed machine to translate literature this is why in
translate literature this is why in
translate literature this is why in psychology we learn about this thing
psychology we learn about this thing
psychology we learn about this thing called mirror neurons which are these
called mirror neurons which are these
called mirror neurons which are these neurons in your head that fire whenever
neurons in your head that fire whenever
neurons in your head that fire whenever you observe something external this is
you observe something external this is
you observe something external this is the reason why you might be afraid to go
the reason why you might be afraid to go
the reason why you might be afraid to go to the bathroom after they’re watching
to the bathroom after they’re watching
to the bathroom after they’re watching the ring or why you feel very sad after
the ring or why you feel very sad after
the ring or why you feel very sad after after reading Romeo and Juliet this is a
after reading Romeo and Juliet this is a
after reading Romeo and Juliet this is a scientific explanation of what’s more
scientific explanation of what’s more
scientific explanation of what’s more commonly known as empathy this is what
commonly known as empathy this is what
commonly known as empathy this is what people often forget if you’re reading a
people often forget if you’re reading a
people often forget if you’re reading a piece of literature you’re not just
piece of literature you’re not just
piece of literature you’re not just reading a scatter of words on a page you
reading a scatter of words on a page you
reading a scatter of words on a page you are reading words that are associated
are reading words that are associated
are reading words that are associated with emotions you are reading the words
with emotions you are reading the words
with emotions you are reading the words that the writer has curated a pro effort
that the writer has curated a pro effort
that the writer has curated a pro effort effortlessly or sometimes effortfully by
effortlessly or sometimes effortfully by
effortlessly or sometimes effortfully by taking you on a journey with them and
taking you on a journey with them and
taking you on a journey with them and this journey aren’t it’s not words this
this journey aren’t it’s not words this
this journey aren’t it’s not words this journey is emotions right and the things
journey is emotions right and the things
journey is emotions right and the things you remember from literature
you remember from literature
you remember from literature not it’s not how the author describes
not it’s not how the author describes
not it’s not how the author describes Hogwarts
Hogwarts
Hogwarts it’s how Harry Potter met his friends
it’s how Harry Potter met his friends
it’s how Harry Potter met his friends it’s how Harry Potter defeated Voldemort
it’s how Harry Potter defeated Voldemort
it’s how Harry Potter defeated Voldemort if that was a spoiler I’m sorry
if that was a spoiler I’m sorry
if that was a spoiler I’m sorry and yeah victor shklovsky once said art
and yeah victor shklovsky once said art
and yeah victor shklovsky once said art is thinking in images the purpose of
is thinking in images the purpose of
is thinking in images the purpose of imagery is to bring the significance of
imagery is to bring the significance of
imagery is to bring the significance of the image closer to our understanding
the image closer to our understanding
the image closer to our understanding without this the image has no meaning
without this the image has no meaning
without this the image has no meaning the reason why I will now say that we
the reason why I will now say that we
the reason why I will now say that we are all translators is because we all
are all translators is because we all
are all translators is because we all convey and understand information
convey and understand information
convey and understand information differently so if you put let’s say me
differently so if you put let’s say me
differently so if you put let’s say me and my bahasa Indonesian teacher side by
and my bahasa Indonesian teacher side by
and my bahasa Indonesian teacher side by side to translate the hahahaha poem that
side to translate the hahahaha poem that
side to translate the hahahaha poem that I wrote our final products will be
I wrote our final products will be
I wrote our final products will be different this is not to say that me or
different this is not to say that me or
different this is not to say that me or him are under-qualified in the target
him are under-qualified in the target
him are under-qualified in the target language or even the original language
language or even the original language
language or even the original language it’s just the fact that you know my
it’s just the fact that you know my
it’s just the fact that you know my perception of my own poem versus his are
perception of my own poem versus his are
perception of my own poem versus his are definitely going to be different
definitely going to be different
definitely going to be different similarly my perception of Hogwarts and
similarly my perception of Hogwarts and
similarly my perception of Hogwarts and Narnia will definitely defer from I
Narnia will definitely defer from I
Narnia will definitely defer from I don’t know let’s say a widowed 40 year
don’t know let’s say a widowed 40 year
don’t know let’s say a widowed 40 year old fireman living in Canada
old fireman living in Canada
old fireman living in Canada even if we’re both reading the prose in
even if we’re both reading the prose in
even if we’re both reading the prose in the same language our experiences shape
the same language our experiences shape
the same language our experiences shape the way we perceive art as school ski
the way we perceive art as school ski
the way we perceive art as school ski has implied this is also the reason
has implied this is also the reason
has implied this is also the reason behind why there are multiple
behind why there are multiple
behind why there are multiple translations for famous translated I
translations for famous translated I
translations for famous translated I mean translated literature such as
mean translated literature such as
mean translated literature such as Fyodor Dostoevsky’s The Brothers
Fyodor Dostoevsky’s The Brothers
Fyodor Dostoevsky’s The Brothers Karamazov there is a Claude garnet
Karamazov there is a Claude garnet
Karamazov there is a Claude garnet translation and there is the Richard
translation and there is the Richard
translation and there is the Richard Pahlavi Rand Valera Zavala Han ski
Pahlavi Rand Valera Zavala Han ski
Pahlavi Rand Valera Zavala Han ski translation and it’s not to say that
translation and it’s not to say that
translation and it’s not to say that both of these have no merit or are you
both of these have no merit or are you
both of these have no merit or are you know one of it is not qualified because
know one of it is not qualified because
know one of it is not qualified because both of them are interpretations of the
both of them are interpretations of the
both of them are interpretations of the text translated pieces are independent
text translated pieces are independent
text translated pieces are independent texts they’re not I mean of course they
texts they’re not I mean of course they
texts they’re not I mean of course they are interpretations of the original
are interpretations of the original
are interpretations of the original texts but they stand alone as their own
texts but they stand alone as their own
texts but they stand alone as their own art so what’s next
art so what’s next
art so what’s next I know not all of you are going to go
I know not all of you are going to go
I know not all of you are going to go out translating multiple prose and plays
out translating multiple prose and plays
out translating multiple prose and plays and poetry but if you want to
and poetry but if you want to
and poetry but if you want to please do so you have my blessing and
please do so you have my blessing and
please do so you have my blessing and you have the world’s blessing but what
you have the world’s blessing but what
you have the world’s blessing but what can you do to be a trend leader here in
can you do to be a trend leader here in
can you do to be a trend leader here in jiss or even in Jakarta where 50-plus
jiss or even in Jakarta where 50-plus
jiss or even in Jakarta where 50-plus languages are spoken every day
languages are spoken every day
languages are spoken every day ask yourself what languages can you
ask yourself what languages can you
ask yourself what languages can you speak what emotions or truths do you
speak what emotions or truths do you
speak what emotions or truths do you want to convey to others and how can you
want to convey to others and how can you
want to convey to others and how can you make knowledge accessible to people who
make knowledge accessible to people who
make knowledge accessible to people who are hungry for it begin with a
are hungry for it begin with a
are hungry for it begin with a conversation about words what words at a
conversation about words what words at a
conversation about words what words at a language that can speak have made you
language that can speak have made you
language that can speak have made you understand something differently
understand something differently
understand something differently what truths or concepts do you want to
what truths or concepts do you want to
what truths or concepts do you want to convey to others that a language that
convey to others that a language that
convey to others that a language that you that you know have made you
you that you know have made you
you that you know have made you understand it better but maybe in
understand it better but maybe in
understand it better but maybe in another language it the concept isn’t as
another language it the concept isn’t as
another language it the concept isn’t as clear share your life and your
clear share your life and your
clear share your life and your experiences with others be the
experiences with others be the
experiences with others be the translator of thought of emotions of the
translator of thought of emotions of the
translator of thought of emotions of the knowledge you have acquired throughout
knowledge you have acquired throughout
knowledge you have acquired throughout all the years about being alive
all the years about being alive
all the years about being alive we humans are drifting spirits trying to
we humans are drifting spirits trying to
we humans are drifting spirits trying to communicate the complexities and the
communicate the complexities and the
communicate the complexities and the intricacies of our thoughts and emotions
intricacies of our thoughts and emotions
intricacies of our thoughts and emotions but communicating them to other people
but communicating them to other people
but communicating them to other people through the medium of words that other
through the medium of words that other
through the medium of words that other people can understand ladies and
people can understand ladies and
people can understand ladies and gentlemen talking is sharing sharing is
gentlemen talking is sharing sharing is
gentlemen talking is sharing sharing is translating and in this digital age
translating and in this digital age
translating and in this digital age sharing is very very easy all we need is
sharing is very very easy all we need is
sharing is very very easy all we need is just more people to do it thank you
just more people to do it thank you
just more people to do it thank you [Applause]
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