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De l’inclusion des personnes sourdes dans l’enseignement classique! | Cindy BARATE | TEDxUNamur


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hello everyone i’m axel i’m

student at school sainte-marie schools and

deafness which is located next door in

which I did all my schooling I

am currently in secondary 5 and I

introduce you cindy and come hello to

all so my name is city missed me

am a teacher primary teacher at

Sainte-Marie school should say

current and more specifically for the sbm

is pasted on edited to the novel my

work it’s I’m a teacher 1st

2nd primary but for deaf children

in sign language is glued deafness

it is an association that brings a project

inclusion of deaf children within

ordinary classes

you’re going to tell me it’s a big word

to say no to a lot more things

precisely we are two teachers

in the class the francophone teacher

and the teacher in sign language

month and a little peculiarity it’s

that I am not at all an interpreter

so I’m not going to waste on that

my colleague says we are in

simultaneous and we are really working

in collaboration that’s for half

from the school timetable time we

are together for the courses of

mathematics for awakening

however for French classes

as for the language courses of

signs for English classes we

spell falls back in quotation marks his

children in their group place for

put in a smaller group in a

smaller local where I’m alone with

my children are my under students and I

teaches them French

so why are we taking his kids out of this

group simply because access

to the French is not the same for a

child on hearing that for a child

are we need more

techniques of other methodologies he

do not be mistaken

we are obviously reaching the

same goals

we try in every case to wait

the same objectives ie

to know to read to know to know to know

express yourself know how to calculate and live it

together obviously schools and

serenity and the first project progym in

europe of this type and i think axel that

in secondary school more or less

let’s talk a little about high school

it’s true that for them the

secondary is about the same

functioning than the that for the

primary is relatively close so

of course we change course

all teacher hours all

the deaf teacher hours where we

sign language also changes and

we always have these pairs

of teachers that for us it’s very

important

then according to the courses so we

also have some certain

time in common with classmates

hearing and from time to time for a

reinforcement of French for classes

English for others run more

optional we have a need

specific adaptation and in which case

we came out of the class group

for one hour for two hours

so during which time we receive so

courses like other students in the

class but with a methodology

specific to us and each and every

part of the group are advancing so

independent and we come back to the end

of course with the group class so we

functioning as we operate

like that in this sense the sometimes so

separate but with a single lens the one

from before the same program the same

content

at the end of the year but tell me sine

die a little question how is this

that you came to you the language of

signs

it’s a good axel question like you

can see I’m so a

bilingual person game it’s both

to express myself in French and in the language of

signs

by the way I want to thank

pascaline interprets that you mean

now it’s not my voice is this

not that you hear it’s the voice

the interpreter

so you have to know that at the age of 16

years old at the end of my high school

I asked myself the question of my

professional future

so I was at that time

strongly attracted to languages

I already wanted to learn English

Dutch German Italian Italian

French as you see here

now

so I learned these different languages

and then I wanted to

to learn another a little more

particular and I was strongly

attracted to sign language at age

20 years so I signed up for

the first time in language course of

signs

it brings me back now 17 years in

back as time goes by fast

so I have a double qualification it’s

to say I am both a graduate in

sign language is a teacher and

I was subsequently engaged to Namur

it’s been 13 years now engaged within

of the deaf school project

but you know that I remember you well

you were little was 6 years old was

in my class said remembers quite

absolutely it’s true that it goes back and

I still have a lot of memories

with you from his years of his two years

passed with you I really have one

incredible quantity good I chose

a few 2 including which I I

am going to share with you today I

do not know if you see there the picture

oh well here’s their blood in fact it’s

lili the mouse little mouse any

cute

we have the sentence you read it from

simple way it’s very easy but for

us when we are younger

smaller French is already a

second language and for us to master this

denounced gender is already relatively

complex we have trouble making the link

selling signs french words

how is it formulated in

sign language

it’s really a whole member a

learning so we managed to do

and now I master I understand

very well the no it’s the second

remember it’s time to dictate

dictations or dictations here are we

are together in the classroom

the teacher makes his dictation 1

this is the students write they have

no need to keep the teacher in

does not it’s necessary they’re with

him and hear so they write

except that we need to

look for sign language

to watch the teacher and to write in

same time so we use the lpc in

this case lpc means spoken language

completed and it’s a help a tool to the

phonological recognition of words and

it’s true that it’s a help

interesting for deaf children

it’s true that for us it’s a big

is a big help because that we

actually distinguishes the look-alikes

the bio the words that look alike that

we read on the lips and it helps

a lot but it takes a lot more

of time

it takes a lot longer

are obliged to raise the head while

time to see the teachers for

rewrite could not be sure we had

well understood the word we decoded so

it takes time and we had

really a very very very very fast

slowed down compared to the rest of the

class and I particularly remember a

times when during a dictation students

have finished their work

it was time for recreation so

they left in the yard

except that we with this accumulated delay eh

well we could not enjoy the

recreation right now and when we

have finally finished

dictation and well actually we surrendered

account that recess was in phase

ii in the terminal phase actually doing

to end the tea exaggerate anyway

not a little looking forward a little bit

now is what you really have

look unhappy and look at her this beautiful

smile good there it’s me

but it’s true you’re right it’s true

that every beginning of the project we were trying to

follow the francophone teacher

now things have a lot

evolved and the method that we use the

pedagogy that we use a lot

changed so many adaptations

now that we have been able to put in place and

that’s why we go out

deaf children of the big group for the

French class because precisely

has put in place a method

particularly well suited so

that you can keep or still

your recreation time

it’s true that it’s the city season

projects that evolves that necessarily evolves

for us at the secondary level

we’re not there yet with so many

changes as many evolutions this is

true that the project started with the

primary years

so who now are are well into

place there the high school years have

started there are relatively few all of

even so it’s not yet so

succeeded on

we move forward together we resume

some ideas that we confide

change me it’s been five years since I

now high school level and I’m

realize that it already has a lot

evolved then it’s true that school and

deafness it’s really a model

amazing for us we really have a

great thing it’s really a great

luck it’s really amazing this

luck that I have it’s really a

enrichment this French bilingualism

and sign language and students

hearing often tell me but say

so it’s really beautiful the language of

signs like that it’s one to imad 10 to

many times here that

the teacher tending sometimes is less

pleasant and listened to and that the language of

signs it’s really more interesting

it brings an opening and that

call a lot sometimes

also ask but how do you say that

in sign language such words how

how do you do it and it’s really

interesting for us to be able to do

bridges between the two worlds ray of

community and to have this these exchanges

sometimes we also have a lot of voices

small moments of exchange more

informally we really got it

really an interesting moment but you

tell me you are you are a teacher

bilingual but working like that of

monday to friday all week long

must be dead at the end of the week no

ben completely exhausted no so that’s

true that there is a lot of work

to be a teacher in itself is already a

difficult job so now be

bilingual teacher

actually it’s still

a double difficulty to assume

so as I told you I’m not

no interpreter ie I put

myself in work montcourt I adapt the

the course content according to the

program

so you still have to know that by

luck we have a lot of support from the

share of passes and deafness

in fact we have formations

specific especially once a month

Wednesday afternoon the center of

the university of namur is organized a

group

work in which we have the opportunity

to bring our question to have some

particularly interesting exchanges and

particularly rewarding for our

pedagogy and we also have some

weekly meetings between teachers

bilingual and all that is brought to us

by eco deafness so a big

support from them fortunately is

not only to have to realize all these

adaptation attacks now I’m

ask a small question about

you are still young but are you

already know what you want to do

later

so it’s true that I think the

deaf people here today know

what is my dream my dream

would be to make accessible in order to

to bring up sign language at the

television so that we can

to have

here are two information one with one

perfect accessibility actually that’s it

really my goal is so

general schools and deafness

with this bilingualism in construction can

to be able to achieve this

goal easier way now

I may have you some information

that I already have already done a little

of TV

it’s true wow it’s been two years

on March 2, 2016 so two years ago on

the a2 expects just look a little

and now we go to the weather all

first with our satellite image you

see it the next days will be

conducive to frequent showers of

snow sometimes even at low altitude

we will take stock right away on

the situation of that night with

instability still tonight the

wind that builds rain and

the snow mingled over the entire

territory

same nagy alone who could stand on

the heights for

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are we saying corner and yes then it’s me this

experience me really here it is

really a big emotion for me

I imagine a great emotion for me

it was really a huge step in fact

which has been accomplished here

so this day of March this is all of

after that I had a lot of

people who contact me and who have

asked but say so do you want you go

redo its end and yes I would like

I wish I had

many people told me I hope

that you will really have the chance to

again to reach that time of

realize your dream

good so now is what I

can I really do that I do not know but

I really hope I can hope

renew this experience one day a

next day

I also hope for you we touch the

wood but there is no wood

and you cindy your dream certainly not

the weather that very clearly I can already

tell you so here I already have

teaching is already a job that

I love I am a bilingual teacher

it’s a job I love I’m

also an actress

I am also a musician you are falling

are all three activities

really that I love and I still have

things that I have to realize but for the

most I feel like I already have

realized one of the very big dreams that

I had when I see you now here

as you are me who knew you all

little who was seen growing up

now I see that you are able to

read to write to calculate all these

things you can do

maybe to have more relationships

friendly more affective finally short you

see what I mean and I see you

like that now big bath I tell myself

that somewhere I am doing one of the

little stones that allowed who have you

allowed to become what you are

now it’s true that this little

stone even when brought here is a

certain ease now thank you

a lot and cindy

in sign language yes you can

to applaud like that is what we say in

sign language for loaded seen their

time is fast

do you know what they say

deaf people actually said

that we are when we meet we are

very very very talkative we become very

very talkative and we stay very long

on the spot discussed with this picture of

foot of feet riveted to the ground

really an expression of our own

good go we must stop we have to

go there gave the advanced one wanted

leave room we are rightly said

goodbye thank you very much

bret went well the censor yesterday

so the super mom

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