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Using artificial intelligence to make beer better | Rob McInerney | TEDxGoodenoughCollege


let me take you back to 1960 Mattel has

let me take you back to 1960 Mattel has just launched Barbie the madmen are

just launched Barbie the madmen are

just launched Barbie the madmen are revolutionising car advertising and you

revolutionising car advertising and you

revolutionising car advertising and you can still smoke in your office if you

can still smoke in your office if you

can still smoke in your office if you work at a brand in 1960 and you’re

work at a brand in 1960 and you’re

work at a brand in 1960 and you’re trying to create the next greatest

trying to create the next greatest

trying to create the next greatest product and you’ve got to be able to

product and you’ve got to be able to

product and you’ve got to be able to predict where your customers want so you

predict where your customers want so you

predict where your customers want so you go out and talk to them you stand in a

go out and talk to them you stand in a

go out and talk to them you stand in a mall and hand out questionnaires you run

mall and hand out questionnaires you run

mall and hand out questionnaires you run a focus group you do market research

a focus group you do market research

a focus group you do market research fast-forward 60 years later to today and

fast-forward 60 years later to today and

fast-forward 60 years later to today and companies still need to talk to their

companies still need to talk to their

companies still need to talk to their customers and they still do it in

customers and they still do it in

customers and they still do it in exactly the same way so think of the

exactly the same way so think of the

exactly the same way so think of the things that you bought this week I got

things that you bought this week I got

things that you bought this week I got some new clothes pair of headphones a

some new clothes pair of headphones a

some new clothes pair of headphones a can of coke almost all the things that

can of coke almost all the things that

can of coke almost all the things that you bought would have been created out

you bought would have been created out

you bought would have been created out of our discussion with small groups of

of our discussion with small groups of

of our discussion with small groups of people using pretty much the same

people using pretty much the same

people using pretty much the same techniques as 60 years ago and that

techniques as 60 years ago and that

techniques as 60 years ago and that isn’t because they work they frequently

isn’t because they work they frequently

isn’t because they work they frequently don’t the reality is the vast majority

don’t the reality is the vast majority

don’t the reality is the vast majority of new products fail the wrong things

of new products fail the wrong things

of new products fail the wrong things just get built and so we live in a world

just get built and so we live in a world

just get built and so we live in a world that is biased away from innovation

that is biased away from innovation

that is biased away from innovation towards promotion last year we spent

towards promotion last year we spent

towards promotion last year we spent five hundred billion dollars on

five hundred billion dollars on

five hundred billion dollars on advertising and that’s money that is

advertising and that’s money that is

advertising and that’s money that is being used to convince us what to buy

being used to convince us what to buy

being used to convince us what to buy but that does next to nothing to

but that does next to nothing to

but that does next to nothing to actually improve the product and

companies are constantly spamming us

companies are constantly spamming us telling us what we want and it works

telling us what we want and it works

telling us what we want and it works you’re actually looking at a man who now

you’re actually looking at a man who now

you’re actually looking at a man who now buys more expensive shampoo than he did

buys more expensive shampoo than he did

buys more expensive shampoo than he did when he had a full head of hair

when he had a full head of hair

when he had a full head of hair that is a true story so what if the

that is a true story so what if the

that is a true story so what if the world was less wasteful what if we could

world was less wasteful what if we could

world was less wasteful what if we could create a future where all the energy

create a future where all the energy

create a future where all the energy that we currently spend on advertising

that we currently spend on advertising

that we currently spend on advertising was instead spent on making a better

was instead spent on making a better

was instead spent on making a better product a future where companies were so

product a future where companies were so

product a future where companies were so good at listening to us that their

good at listening to us that their

good at listening to us that their innovation replace the need for

innovation replace the need for

innovation replace the need for advertising altogether in that future

advertising altogether in that future

advertising altogether in that future marketing isn’t about pushing and

marketing isn’t about pushing and

marketing isn’t about pushing and promotion it’s about managing the flow

promotion it’s about managing the flow

promotion it’s about managing the flow of information between those that make

of information between those that make

of information between those that make products and those that consume products

products and those that consume products

products and those that consume products now I believe that this feature is

now I believe that this feature is

now I believe that this feature is possible and the key is our relationship

possible and the key is our relationship

possible and the key is our relationship with artificial intelligence at the very

with artificial intelligence at the very

with artificial intelligence at the very core of AI we’re trying to create

core of AI we’re trying to create

core of AI we’re trying to create machines that learn machines that learn

machines that learn machines that learn

machines that learn machines that learn in many ways like you and I do and in

in many ways like you and I do and in

in many ways like you and I do and in fact one of the main things that these

fact one of the main things that these

fact one of the main things that these machines that need to learn about is us

machines that need to learn about is us

machines that need to learn about is us but whilst you and I are pretty limited

but whilst you and I are pretty limited

but whilst you and I are pretty limited on the number of people that we can

on the number of people that we can

on the number of people that we can learn about at the same time the

learn about at the same time the

learn about at the same time the machines that we’re designing can

machines that we’re designing can

machines that we’re designing can observe and interact with millions of

observe and interact with millions of

observe and interact with millions of people simultaneously they can combine

people simultaneously they can combine

people simultaneously they can combine that knowledge and form very accurate

that knowledge and form very accurate

that knowledge and form very accurate models about how each of us behaves and

models about how each of us behaves and

models about how each of us behaves and there are plenty of these machines

there are plenty of these machines

there are plenty of these machines already on the internet constantly

already on the internet constantly

already on the internet constantly learning about us watching what we click

learning about us watching what we click

learning about us watching what we click on what we buy who we connect with and

on what we buy who we connect with and

on what we buy who we connect with and the longer they watch the better they

the longer they watch the better they

the longer they watch the better they get at predicting where we might click

get at predicting where we might click

get at predicting where we might click next what we might like to buy who our

next what we might like to buy who our

next what we might like to buy who our friends might be we’re used to this

friends might be we’re used to this

friends might be we’re used to this whole idea of what we’ve now become has

whole idea of what we’ve now become has

whole idea of what we’ve now become has become known as personalization highly

become known as personalization highly

become known as personalization highly tuned adverse chases around the internet

tuned adverse chases around the internet

tuned adverse chases around the internet however the products they are selling

however the products they are selling

however the products they are selling don’t get better and so we’re back to

don’t get better and so we’re back to

don’t get better and so we’re back to where we were in 1960 sure we’re far

where we were in 1960 sure we’re far

where we were in 1960 sure we’re far more connected now but our personal data

more connected now but our personal data

more connected now but our personal data is being used in a way that we can’t

is being used in a way that we can’t

is being used in a way that we can’t readily track to form incredibly

readily track to form incredibly

readily track to form incredibly sophisticated models of our purchasing

sophisticated models of our purchasing

sophisticated models of our purchasing behavior and those models are then used

behavior and those models are then used

behavior and those models are then used to convince us to buy more things and

to convince us to buy more things and

to convince us to buy more things and they still do not improve the products

they still do not improve the products

they still do not improve the products that which one are creates creates a lot

that which one are creates creates a lot

that which one are creates creates a lot of value for businesses but nowhere near

of value for businesses but nowhere near

of value for businesses but nowhere near enough value for us consumers

enough value for us consumers

enough value for us consumers so last year we said about trying to

so last year we said about trying to

so last year we said about trying to rethink this we wanted to see if in the

rethink this we wanted to see if in the

rethink this we wanted to see if in the future the most effective brands are the

future the most effective brands are the

future the most effective brands are the ones that talk to their customers not to

ones that talk to their customers not to

ones that talk to their customers not to make better advertising but to share

make better advertising but to share

make better advertising but to share ideas we thought that they’d use

ideas we thought that they’d use

ideas we thought that they’d use artificial intelligence to help real

artificial intelligence to help real

artificial intelligence to help real people and brands talk to each other and

people and brands talk to each other and

people and brands talk to each other and we wanted to prove this in an industry

we wanted to prove this in an industry

we wanted to prove this in an industry which people have very strong views on

which people have very strong views on

which people have very strong views on and that which we had a pretty

and that which we had a pretty

and that which we had a pretty significant interest in as well

significant interest in as well

significant interest in as well beer so we created intelligent X the

beer so we created intelligent X the

beer so we created intelligent X the world’s first beer brewed by AI by

world’s first beer brewed by AI by

world’s first beer brewed by AI by incorporating AI into the brewing

incorporating AI into the brewing

incorporating AI into the brewing process we have created a product that

process we have created a product that

process we have created a product that automatically changes its recipe based

automatically changes its recipe based

automatically changes its recipe based on the needs of the consumers a beer

on the needs of the consumers a beer

on the needs of the consumers a beer that continually adapts to the changing

that continually adapts to the changing

that continually adapts to the changing tastes of the people drinking it now

tastes of the people drinking it now

tastes of the people drinking it now that is what I call personalization and

that is what I call personalization and

that is what I call personalization and it works very simply on one side

it works very simply on one side

it works very simply on one side algorithms are deciding which

algorithms are deciding which

algorithms are deciding which ingredients to use how long’s to cook

ingredients to use how long’s to cook

ingredients to use how long’s to cook things for and on the other they’re

things for and on the other they’re

things for and on the other they’re asking questions for the people actually

asking questions for the people actually

asking questions for the people actually drinking the beer questions about the

drinking the beer questions about the

drinking the beer questions about the taste questions about what things they’d

taste questions about what things they’d

taste questions about what things they’d like to change gathering feedback and

like to change gathering feedback and

like to change gathering feedback and all the person drinking the beer has to

all the person drinking the beer has to

all the person drinking the beer has to do is follow a link printed on the

do is follow a link printed on the

do is follow a link printed on the bottle and the algorithms start talking

bottle and the algorithms start talking

bottle and the algorithms start talking for them so by combining these two sides

for them so by combining these two sides

for them so by combining these two sides product and consumer if you like left

product and consumer if you like left

product and consumer if you like left brain and right brain what we have

brain and right brain what we have

brain and right brain what we have created are algorithms that learn which

created are algorithms that learn which

created are algorithms that learn which recipes work on which time they learn

recipes work on which time they learn

recipes work on which time they learn which ideas to try in the future on

which ideas to try in the future on

which ideas to try in the future on which to retire

which to retire

which to retire they learn what to make for individuals

they learn what to make for individuals

they learn what to make for individuals and they learn what to make for groups

and they learn what to make for groups

and they learn what to make for groups now I think the real beauty in this

now I think the real beauty in this

now I think the real beauty in this whole thing is that we’ve taken

whole thing is that we’ve taken

whole thing is that we’ve taken something inherently artificial and

something inherently artificial and

something inherently artificial and complex and we’ve brought the whole

complex and we’ve brought the whole

complex and we’ve brought the whole process of creation and mass consumption

process of creation and mass consumption

process of creation and mass consumption back to its core human components there

back to its core human components there

back to its core human components there is a direct visceral connection between

is a direct visceral connection between

is a direct visceral connection between the craftsman and the consumer almost as

the craftsman and the consumer almost as

the craftsman and the consumer almost as if they were in the same room now whilst

if they were in the same room now whilst

if they were in the same room now whilst we want to take and exploit the wisdom

we want to take and exploit the wisdom

we want to take and exploit the wisdom of the crowd it isn’t as simple as

of the crowd it isn’t as simple as

of the crowd it isn’t as simple as averaging and in fact the key complexity

averaging and in fact the key complexity

averaging and in fact the key complexity is being able to interpret what each

is being able to interpret what each

is being able to interpret what each individual says unfortunately we’re not

individual says unfortunately we’re not

individual says unfortunately we’re not all as wise as each other and so we have

all as wise as each other and so we have

all as wise as each other and so we have to be careful whose opinion we take and

to be careful whose opinion we take and

to be careful whose opinion we take and whose we don’t but that’s where AI

whose we don’t but that’s where AI

whose we don’t but that’s where AI really comes in because it learns which

really comes in because it learns which

really comes in because it learns which questions to ask to which people and it

questions to ask to which people and it

questions to ask to which people and it learns how to understand the answers so

learns how to understand the answers so

learns how to understand the answers so when after one of our early beers we the

when after one of our early beers we the

when after one of our early beers we the algorithms ask people whether they like

algorithms ask people whether they like

algorithms ask people whether they like more or less alcohol in the recipe the

more or less alcohol in the recipe the

more or less alcohol in the recipe the vast majority of people said they wanted

vast majority of people said they wanted

vast majority of people said they wanted a stronger beer so we made a stronger

a stronger beer so we made a stronger

a stronger beer so we made a stronger beer and what happens people actually

beer and what happens people actually

beer and what happens people actually liked it less so the algorithms learn an

liked it less so the algorithms learn an

liked it less so the algorithms learn an important lesson

important lesson

important lesson well they learnt there we’re a nation of

well they learnt there we’re a nation of

well they learnt there we’re a nation of alcoholics of course right but by making

alcoholics of course right but by making

alcoholics of course right but by making a mistake and seeing what happens they

a mistake and seeing what happens they

a mistake and seeing what happens they learnt to better interpret people in the

learnt to better interpret people in the

learnt to better interpret people in the future the algorithms aren’t perfect

future the algorithms aren’t perfect

future the algorithms aren’t perfect they do make mistakes but by exploring

they do make mistakes but by exploring

they do make mistakes but by exploring and gathering feedback they learn not to

and gathering feedback they learn not to

and gathering feedback they learn not to make them again they learn by doing they

make them again they learn by doing they

make them again they learn by doing they learn by trying things over and over

learn by trying things over and over

learn by trying things over and over again iterating and changing I believe

again iterating and changing I believe

again iterating and changing I believe that it is in creating a constantly

that it is in creating a constantly

that it is in creating a constantly changing product that the solutions are

changing product that the solutions are

changing product that the solutions are all these problems lie

without change there are no mistakes for

without change there are no mistakes for Rai to learn from no mistakes for us to

Rai to learn from no mistakes for us to

Rai to learn from no mistakes for us to learn from without change

learn from without change

learn from without change we can’t explore the whole universe of

we can’t explore the whole universe of

we can’t explore the whole universe of product possibilities we can’t make

product possibilities we can’t make

product possibilities we can’t make things better and without change we are

things better and without change we are

things better and without change we are not selling the same thing again and

not selling the same thing again and

not selling the same thing again and again and again and actually all sorts

again and again and actually all sorts

again and again and actually all sorts come down to you we go back to

come down to you we go back to

come down to you we go back to advertising instead of innovating so the

advertising instead of innovating so the

advertising instead of innovating so the beer is always changing

beer is always changing

beer is always changing we started with one beer which became

we started with one beer which became

we started with one beer which became four beers and those four beers spawned

four beers and those four beers spawned

four beers and those four beers spawned a further 18 different age iterations

a further 18 different age iterations

a further 18 different age iterations all of them different I was talking to

all of them different I was talking to

all of them different I was talking to some of the other day and I was

some of the other day and I was

some of the other day and I was explaining that we never make the same

explaining that we never make the same

explaining that we never make the same batch twice but if you’d loved one of

batch twice but if you’d loved one of

batch twice but if you’d loved one of these beers then you’re gonna have to go

these beers then you’re gonna have to go

these beers then you’re gonna have to go home and make it yourself and he looked

home and make it yourself and he looked

home and make it yourself and he looked at me like it was crazy

at me like it was crazy

at me like it was crazy what if you through all that discovered

what if you through all that discovered

what if you through all that discovered that there was a perfect bit you

that there was a perfect bit you

that there was a perfect bit you discovered the perfect beer and the

discovered the perfect beer and the

discovered the perfect beer and the answer is simple I don’t believe that we

answer is simple I don’t believe that we

answer is simple I don’t believe that we can make a perfect beer that isn’t to

can make a perfect beer that isn’t to

can make a perfect beer that isn’t to say that we can’t make a perfect beer I

say that we can’t make a perfect beer I

say that we can’t make a perfect beer I don’t believe it exists and that comes

don’t believe it exists and that comes

don’t believe it exists and that comes down to people people want to try new

down to people people want to try new

down to people people want to try new things they’re obsessed with the idea

things they’re obsessed with the idea

things they’re obsessed with the idea that there’s something better out there

that there’s something better out there

that there’s something better out there that I haven’t yet had above all they

that I haven’t yet had above all they

that I haven’t yet had above all they want new experiences so we have to keep

want new experiences so we have to keep

want new experiences so we have to keep on creating it’s all about people and

on creating it’s all about people and

on creating it’s all about people and really all this is about people I

really all this is about people I

really all this is about people I started working in AI because I was

started working in AI because I was

started working in AI because I was interested in people I was interested in

interested in people I was interested in

interested in people I was interested in the way the human brain works how we

the way the human brain works how we

the way the human brain works how we interact with each other I am interested

interact with each other I am interested

interact with each other I am interested in AI not because it can replace us

in AI not because it can replace us

in AI not because it can replace us but because it can bring us closer

but because it can bring us closer

but because it can bring us closer together human creativity is still very

together human creativity is still very

together human creativity is still very much at the heart of this process but

much at the heart of this process but

much at the heart of this process but the crucial difference now is when the

the crucial difference now is when the

the crucial difference now is when the brewer says I have an idea an AI

brewer says I have an idea an AI

brewer says I have an idea an AI responds and says well let’s go and

responds and says well let’s go and

responds and says well let’s go and check it out if it’s a good one and

check it out if it’s a good one and

check it out if it’s a good one and replace brewing with any type of product

replace brewing with any type of product

replace brewing with any type of product innovation you care to imagine by using

innovation you care to imagine by using

innovation you care to imagine by using artificial intelligence we can eradicate

artificial intelligence we can eradicate

artificial intelligence we can eradicate the deep inefficiencies of today

the deep inefficiencies of today

the deep inefficiencies of today this is a road to a future full of new

this is a road to a future full of new

this is a road to a future full of new experiences not just tastes and smells

experiences not just tastes and smells

experiences not just tastes and smells and whilst a few of us may end up

and whilst a few of us may end up

and whilst a few of us may end up getting run over by self-driving cars it

getting run over by self-driving cars it

getting run over by self-driving cars it will be AI that gets us there the Mad

will be AI that gets us there the Mad

will be AI that gets us there the Mad Men can finally be disrupted because we

Men can finally be disrupted because we

Men can finally be disrupted because we have a choice we all know that

have a choice we all know that

have a choice we all know that artificial intelligence is gonna change

artificial intelligence is gonna change

artificial intelligence is gonna change our lives but what is clear now is in

our lives but what is clear now is in

our lives but what is clear now is in terms of the how and the when of change

terms of the how and the when of change

terms of the how and the when of change it will be up to the people to decide

it will be up to the people to decide

it will be up to the people to decide thank you very much

thank you very much

thank you very much [Applause]

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