
imagine if you could make a major dent in reducing global warming by just
in reducing global warming by just
in reducing global warming by just choosing something different to eat for
choosing something different to eat for
choosing something different to eat for lunch tomorrow would you do it over the
lunch tomorrow would you do it over the
lunch tomorrow would you do it over the last year I’ve worked with the team on
last year I’ve worked with the team on
last year I’ve worked with the team on the largest rainforest conservation
the largest rainforest conservation
the largest rainforest conservation climate mitigation project in the world
climate mitigation project in the world
climate mitigation project in the world this was on some land out in Indonesia
this was on some land out in Indonesia
this was on some land out in Indonesia and I wanted to talk to you a couple of
and I wanted to talk to you a couple of
and I wanted to talk to you a couple of things I learned in that process and
things I learned in that process and
things I learned in that process and really talk about two things quick
really talk about two things quick
really talk about two things quick update on climate change or global
update on climate change or global
update on climate change or global warming and second how rainforests play
warming and second how rainforests play
warming and second how rainforests play a critical role in the solution but i
a critical role in the solution but i
a critical role in the solution but i also want to talk about how an
also want to talk about how an
also want to talk about how an individual one person even you can
individual one person even you can
individual one person even you can really make a difference by the choices
really make a difference by the choices
really make a difference by the choices you make and what you eat so let’s let’s
you make and what you eat so let’s let’s
you make and what you eat so let’s let’s do the quick update on climate change
do the quick update on climate change
do the quick update on climate change some of the top scientists around the
some of the top scientists around the
some of the top scientists around the world have told us and shown us over the
world have told us and shown us over the
world have told us and shown us over the past 10 years issues been highlighted
past 10 years issues been highlighted
past 10 years issues been highlighted that what we’re doing is putting a lot
that what we’re doing is putting a lot
that what we’re doing is putting a lot of extra carbon dioxide co2 and
of extra carbon dioxide co2 and
of extra carbon dioxide co2 and greenhouse gases into the air and this
greenhouse gases into the air and this
greenhouse gases into the air and this extra co2 is forming a thermal
extra co2 is forming a thermal
extra co2 is forming a thermal insulation blanket around the planet and
insulation blanket around the planet and
insulation blanket around the planet and warming it up faster than our natural
warming it up faster than our natural
warming it up faster than our natural systems can actually manage it we didn’t
systems can actually manage it we didn’t
systems can actually manage it we didn’t have this problem before but when we’ve
have this problem before but when we’ve
have this problem before but when we’ve started using a lot of fossil fuels coal
started using a lot of fossil fuels coal
started using a lot of fossil fuels coal oil and gas and burning him over the
oil and gas and burning him over the
oil and gas and burning him over the last hundred years 150 years roughly
last hundred years 150 years roughly
last hundred years 150 years roughly we’ve added a lot of co2 and also not
we’ve added a lot of co2 and also not
we’ve added a lot of co2 and also not only from coal which makes up about
only from coal which makes up about
only from coal which makes up about sixty three percent of the emissions
sixty three percent of the emissions
sixty three percent of the emissions that are in the air but from deforesting
that are in the air but from deforesting
that are in the air but from deforesting the forest and burning the trees to
the forest and burning the trees to
the forest and burning the trees to clear them for agriculture or cattle and
clear them for agriculture or cattle and
clear them for agriculture or cattle and that’s somewhere between twenty twenty
that’s somewhere between twenty twenty
that’s somewhere between twenty twenty and twenty-five and thirty percent of
and twenty-five and thirty percent of
and twenty-five and thirty percent of the emissions in the in the air of a
the emissions in the in the air of a
the emissions in the in the air of a year these numbers move around but
year these numbers move around but
year these numbers move around but that’s roughly what’s happening so how
that’s roughly what’s happening so how
that’s roughly what’s happening so how much carbon dioxide’s in the air and why
much carbon dioxide’s in the air and why
much carbon dioxide’s in the air and why is that really important this is an
is that really important this is an
is that really important this is an analysis that shows a roughly half a
analysis that shows a roughly half a
analysis that shows a roughly half a million years of every year how much
million years of every year how much
million years of every year how much carbon dioxide is in the air and the
carbon dioxide is in the air and the
carbon dioxide is in the air and the data comes from ice core samples that
data comes from ice core samples that
data comes from ice core samples that were taken out of glaciers where every
were taken out of glaciers where every
were taken out of glaciers where every year the annual snowfall traps air in
year the annual snowfall traps air in
year the annual snowfall traps air in that layer you can go back and look at
that layer you can go back and look at
that layer you can go back and look at it and do isotope analysis to figure out
it and do isotope analysis to figure out
it and do isotope analysis to figure out exactly what the
exactly what the
exactly what the concentrations of co2 or and what you
concentrations of co2 or and what you
concentrations of co2 or and what you see is a rough band between 180 parts
see is a rough band between 180 parts
see is a rough band between 180 parts per million at the low and 282 300 parts
per million at the low and 282 300 parts
per million at the low and 282 300 parts per million it’s a trace gas at the high
per million it’s a trace gas at the high
per million it’s a trace gas at the high and about every hundred twenty-five
and about every hundred twenty-five
and about every hundred twenty-five years there’s roughly an ice age and so
years there’s roughly an ice age and so
years there’s roughly an ice age and so the low co2 is correlated to the bottom
the low co2 is correlated to the bottom
the low co2 is correlated to the bottom of this cycle and the high co2 amounts
of this cycle and the high co2 amounts
of this cycle and the high co2 amounts correlate to the top end of the cycle
correlate to the top end of the cycle
correlate to the top end of the cycle now when it’s really cold at the bottom
now when it’s really cold at the bottom
now when it’s really cold at the bottom of the cycle the temperature the average
of the cycle the temperature the average
of the cycle the temperature the average temperature in the earth is about eight
temperature in the earth is about eight
temperature in the earth is about eight degrees Celsius lower than it is right
degrees Celsius lower than it is right
degrees Celsius lower than it is right now the seas are about 350 feet lower
now the seas are about 350 feet lower
now the seas are about 350 feet lower because of all the surface ice that
because of all the surface ice that
because of all the surface ice that exists and if you’re standing about here
exists and if you’re standing about here
exists and if you’re standing about here there’s about a mile thick of ice above
there’s about a mile thick of ice above
there’s about a mile thick of ice above your head but look at the graph and see
your head but look at the graph and see
your head but look at the graph and see what’s happened in the last hundred
what’s happened in the last hundred
what’s happened in the last hundred years we’ve put in another roughly 120
years we’ve put in another roughly 120
years we’ve put in another roughly 120 parts per million in the last hundred
parts per million in the last hundred
parts per million in the last hundred years through this extra missions and
years through this extra missions and
years through this extra missions and that’s some that’s a lot if you look
that’s some that’s a lot if you look
that’s some that’s a lot if you look over a shorter time period say 1,700
over a shorter time period say 1,700
over a shorter time period say 1,700 years and you just look at temperature
years and you just look at temperature
years and you just look at temperature after a gradual cooling period in the
after a gradual cooling period in the
after a gradual cooling period in the last hundred years we’ve had this rapid
last hundred years we’ve had this rapid
last hundred years we’ve had this rapid increase in the temperature of the
increase in the temperature of the
increase in the temperature of the planet and it’s up about a one and a
planet and it’s up about a one and a
planet and it’s up about a one and a half degrees Fahrenheit which is halfway
half degrees Fahrenheit which is halfway
half degrees Fahrenheit which is halfway to the warmest it ever was in that prior
to the warmest it ever was in that prior
to the warmest it ever was in that prior graph and there’s still more co2 being
graph and there’s still more co2 being
graph and there’s still more co2 being pumped into the air so we’re starting to
pumped into the air so we’re starting to
pumped into the air so we’re starting to see this relationship between co2
see this relationship between co2
see this relationship between co2 concentrations and temperature if you
concentrations and temperature if you
concentrations and temperature if you look at observational data which is a
look at observational data which is a
look at observational data which is a little more accurate than the methods
little more accurate than the methods
little more accurate than the methods that were done for the last two graphs
that were done for the last two graphs
that were done for the last two graphs you’ll see a pretty tighter are much
you’ll see a pretty tighter are much
you’ll see a pretty tighter are much tighter correlation between co2
tighter correlation between co2
tighter correlation between co2 concentrations and the temperature you
concentrations and the temperature you
concentrations and the temperature you start to see roughly the concentration
start to see roughly the concentration
start to see roughly the concentration increase and the temperature arrived
last week Noah released some data
last week Noah released some data showing that 2016 was the warmest
showing that 2016 was the warmest
showing that 2016 was the warmest hottest year on record since they
hottest year on record since they
hottest year on record since they started collecting data now this graph
started collecting data now this graph
started collecting data now this graph shows average temperature comparisons
shows average temperature comparisons
shows average temperature comparisons around the world for last year alone and
around the world for last year alone and
around the world for last year alone and everywhere it’s red it was warmer and
everywhere it’s red it was warmer and
everywhere it’s red it was warmer and everywhere it’s blue it was colder you
everywhere it’s blue it was colder you
everywhere it’s blue it was colder you see there are a couple of cold spots but
see there are a couple of cold spots but
see there are a couple of cold spots but they’re actually a lot of red spots and
they’re actually a lot of red spots and
they’re actually a lot of red spots and this is happening all over the planet
this is happening all over the planet
this is happening all over the planet and it rates for me it raises a couple
and it rates for me it raises a couple
and it rates for me it raises a couple of questions like
of questions like
of questions like we’re still putting a lot more co2 in
we’re still putting a lot more co2 in
we’re still putting a lot more co2 in the air how hot is it going to get and
the air how hot is it going to get and
the air how hot is it going to get and the modeling that’s going on now at the
the modeling that’s going on now at the
the modeling that’s going on now at the IPCC and other Institute’s is really
IPCC and other Institute’s is really
IPCC and other Institute’s is really focused on trying to figure out the
focused on trying to figure out the
focused on trying to figure out the predictability of how hot it will get
predictability of how hot it will get
predictability of how hot it will get and what do we need to do and can we
and what do we need to do and can we
and what do we need to do and can we adapt to this because it may get warmer
adapt to this because it may get warmer
adapt to this because it may get warmer but what does that really mean for us
but what does that really mean for us
but what does that really mean for us now and one of the things we’re starting
now and one of the things we’re starting
now and one of the things we’re starting to notice is there are a lot more
to notice is there are a lot more
to notice is there are a lot more extreme weather events which is defined
extreme weather events which is defined
extreme weather events which is defined as if you look at this graph this is
as if you look at this graph this is
as if you look at this graph this is another analysis of just 2016 the purple
another analysis of just 2016 the purple
another analysis of just 2016 the purple and blue dots are high precipitation at
and blue dots are high precipitation at
and blue dots are high precipitation at the extremes those are floods the brown
the extremes those are floods the brown
the extremes those are floods the brown or the tan dots are actually droughts
or the tan dots are actually droughts
or the tan dots are actually droughts low precipitation that’s in comparison
low precipitation that’s in comparison
low precipitation that’s in comparison to what the average was for 30-year
to what the average was for 30-year
to what the average was for 30-year period or ending around nineteen ninety
period or ending around nineteen ninety
period or ending around nineteen ninety now droughts and floods and volatile
now droughts and floods and volatile
now droughts and floods and volatile weather not very good for us in fact
weather not very good for us in fact
weather not very good for us in fact that the two and a half million known
that the two and a half million known
that the two and a half million known species need a much more stable weather
species need a much more stable weather
species need a much more stable weather pattern to survive on this planet it’s
pattern to survive on this planet it’s
pattern to survive on this planet it’s highly disruptive to have such extremes
highly disruptive to have such extremes
highly disruptive to have such extremes let’s go back to what we could possibly
let’s go back to what we could possibly
let’s go back to what we could possibly do about this so as we said we know how
do about this so as we said we know how
do about this so as we said we know how the extra co2 is gotten into the air
the extra co2 is gotten into the air
the extra co2 is gotten into the air pretty accurately mostly Cola Ling gas
pretty accurately mostly Cola Ling gas
pretty accurately mostly Cola Ling gas some burning of forests but we really
some burning of forests but we really
some burning of forests but we really have two problems I think everyone
have two problems I think everyone
have two problems I think everyone agrees we’ve got to reduce our emissions
agrees we’ve got to reduce our emissions
agrees we’ve got to reduce our emissions but we really got to figure out a way to
but we really got to figure out a way to
but we really got to figure out a way to get the extra co2 back out of the air no
get the extra co2 back out of the air no
get the extra co2 back out of the air no one really talks about that a lot and
one really talks about that a lot and
one really talks about that a lot and when you do there’s some scientists who
when you do there’s some scientists who
when you do there’s some scientists who proposed things like what are called
proposed things like what are called
proposed things like what are called large geo global projects where you’re
large geo global projects where you’re
large geo global projects where you’re either trying to manage the amount of
either trying to manage the amount of
either trying to manage the amount of energy coming into the Sun and reduce it
energy coming into the Sun and reduce it
energy coming into the Sun and reduce it so it doesn’t get as hot or you’re
so it doesn’t get as hot or you’re
so it doesn’t get as hot or you’re putting large amounts of chemicals into
putting large amounts of chemicals into
putting large amounts of chemicals into the Seas or into the air to to manage
the Seas or into the air to to manage
the Seas or into the air to to manage the natural cycles that reduce co2
the natural cycles that reduce co2
the natural cycles that reduce co2 because if we don’t do anything that co2
because if we don’t do anything that co2
because if we don’t do anything that co2 is going to be in the air for thousands
is going to be in the air for thousands
is going to be in the air for thousands of years there’s nowhere else for to go
of years there’s nowhere else for to go
of years there’s nowhere else for to go so this is where forests come into play
so this is where forests come into play
so this is where forests come into play farce are beautiful they do when you
farce are beautiful they do when you
farce are beautiful they do when you don’t not cutting them down they do a
don’t not cutting them down they do a
don’t not cutting them down they do a lot of things first of all forest take
lot of things first of all forest take
lot of things first of all forest take co2 out of the air in large scale and
co2 out of the air in large scale and
co2 out of the air in large scale and they create large banks of what are
they create large banks of what are
they create large banks of what are called negative emissions or climate
called negative emissions or climate
called negative emissions or climate sinks or carbon sinks
sinks or carbon sinks
sinks or carbon sinks these forests and maybe from your
these forests and maybe from your
these forests and maybe from your biology class you remember that through
biology class you remember that through
biology class you remember that through photosynthesis the actual chlorophyll in
photosynthesis the actual chlorophyll in
photosynthesis the actual chlorophyll in the plant’s leaves and the tree’s leaves
the plant’s leaves and the tree’s leaves
the plant’s leaves and the tree’s leaves take the energy from the Sun convert it
take the energy from the Sun convert it
take the energy from the Sun convert it into sugars for food and the trees grow
into sugars for food and the trees grow
into sugars for food and the trees grow and store vast amounts of carbon in the
and store vast amounts of carbon in the
and store vast amounts of carbon in the wood and the tree’s roots in the soil
wood and the tree’s roots in the soil
wood and the tree’s roots in the soil and that is something that we need I
and that is something that we need I
and that is something that we need I think to allow to happen because if you
think to allow to happen because if you
think to allow to happen because if you look back say 10,000 years before humans
look back say 10,000 years before humans
look back say 10,000 years before humans started degrading the forest and cutting
started degrading the forest and cutting
started degrading the forest and cutting them down there were about 18 billion
them down there were about 18 billion
them down there were about 18 billion acres of forests on the world about half
acres of forests on the world about half
acres of forests on the world about half of those were in the tropics where it
of those were in the tropics where it
of those were in the tropics where it was very wet very hot things grow very
was very wet very hot things grow very
was very wet very hot things grow very rapidly and in the last 10,000 years
rapidly and in the last 10,000 years
rapidly and in the last 10,000 years we’ve either degraded which is basically
we’ve either degraded which is basically
we’ve either degraded which is basically cut down a lot of them or deforested
cut down a lot of them or deforested
cut down a lot of them or deforested eighty percent of the forest on the
eighty percent of the forest on the
eighty percent of the forest on the planet in fact right now there’s only
planet in fact right now there’s only
planet in fact right now there’s only around one and a half billion acres of
around one and a half billion acres of
around one and a half billion acres of rainforest left on the planet that’s
rainforest left on the planet that’s
rainforest left on the planet that’s that’s the size of an area a little
that’s the size of an area a little
that’s the size of an area a little smaller than Australia every year three
smaller than Australia every year three
smaller than Australia every year three to five percent getting smaller getting
to five percent getting smaller getting
to five percent getting smaller getting smaller so one of the most destructive
smaller so one of the most destructive
smaller so one of the most destructive things that’s happening in the
things that’s happening in the
things that’s happening in the rainforest is the production the
rainforest is the production the
rainforest is the production the large-scale production of a product
large-scale production of a product
large-scale production of a product called palm oil now palm oil it’s an
called palm oil now palm oil it’s an
called palm oil now palm oil it’s an edible vegetable oil it grows very fast
edible vegetable oil it grows very fast
edible vegetable oil it grows very fast in the tropics it’s the largest
in the tropics it’s the largest
in the tropics it’s the largest vegetable oil product in the world in
vegetable oil product in the world in
vegetable oil product in the world in the last 20 years it’s been a product
the last 20 years it’s been a product
the last 20 years it’s been a product that you can find in almost forty to
that you can find in almost forty to
that you can find in almost forty to fifty percent of the of the commercial
fifty percent of the of the commercial
fifty percent of the of the commercial grocery stores around the world
grocery stores around the world
grocery stores around the world primarily in Asia and in the US and
primarily in Asia and in the US and
primarily in Asia and in the US and Europe you find it in cooking oils you
Europe you find it in cooking oils you
Europe you find it in cooking oils you find it in cookies cakes biscuits
find it in cookies cakes biscuits
find it in cookies cakes biscuits because it’s a semi solid at room
because it’s a semi solid at room
because it’s a semi solid at room temperature you can use it in other
temperature you can use it in other
temperature you can use it in other products to like soaps and shampoos and
products to like soaps and shampoos and
products to like soaps and shampoos and cosmetics so we have this use of palm
cosmetics so we have this use of palm
cosmetics so we have this use of palm oil and one of the interesting things
oil and one of the interesting things
oil and one of the interesting things about Paul moles they’re only really two
about Paul moles they’re only really two
about Paul moles they’re only really two countries where eighty-five percent of
countries where eighty-five percent of
countries where eighty-five percent of the palm oil gets grown Indonesia and
the palm oil gets grown Indonesia and
the palm oil gets grown Indonesia and Malaysia and for the past 20 years
Malaysia and for the past 20 years
Malaysia and for the past 20 years they’ve been cutting down vast areas of
they’ve been cutting down vast areas of
they’ve been cutting down vast areas of rain forests and burning them to allow
rain forests and burning them to allow
rain forests and burning them to allow for palm oil production these are space
for palm oil production these are space
for palm oil production these are space shots of the smoke in 2015 that covered
shots of the smoke in 2015 that covered
shots of the smoke in 2015 that covered most of Singapore in that whole area
most of Singapore in that whole area
most of Singapore in that whole area from just far as being cut down it was
from just far as being cut down it was
from just far as being cut down it was during the post El Nino season two so
during the post El Nino season two so
during the post El Nino season two so this was pretty intense the monsoons
this was pretty intense the monsoons
this was pretty intense the monsoons come in
come in
come in and put out a lot of the fires but it’s
and put out a lot of the fires but it’s
and put out a lot of the fires but it’s a repeating pattern that’s happened year
a repeating pattern that’s happened year
a repeating pattern that’s happened year after year one of the problems here is
after year one of the problems here is
after year one of the problems here is there there’s not just one big company
there there’s not just one big company
there there’s not just one big company or two big companies doing this in the
or two big companies doing this in the
or two big companies doing this in the forests there are about 150,000 small
forests there are about 150,000 small
forests there are about 150,000 small farmers spread out over a vast area who
farmers spread out over a vast area who
farmers spread out over a vast area who individually cut down small acreage and
individually cut down small acreage and
individually cut down small acreage and then sell their fruits they cut down the
then sell their fruits they cut down the
then sell their fruits they cut down the forest they burn the trees clear the
forest they burn the trees clear the
forest they burn the trees clear the land plant the seeds and then within
land plant the seeds and then within
land plant the seeds and then within three years the plants start growing
three years the plants start growing
three years the plants start growing they look like this is their small palm
they look like this is their small palm
they look like this is their small palm tree plants then within three years I
tree plants then within three years I
tree plants then within three years I start harvesting fruit this is what the
start harvesting fruit this is what the
start harvesting fruit this is what the fruit looks like that goes to a mill
fruit looks like that goes to a mill
fruit looks like that goes to a mill gets processed and turned into palm oil
gets processed and turned into palm oil
gets processed and turned into palm oil so this is the forest before untouched
so this is the forest before untouched
so this is the forest before untouched and a couple years later palm well it’s
and a couple years later palm well it’s
and a couple years later palm well it’s a homogenous monoculture lots of snakes
a homogenous monoculture lots of snakes
a homogenous monoculture lots of snakes lots of rats but not a lot of other
lots of rats but not a lot of other
lots of rats but not a lot of other biodiversity so it creates a problem
biodiversity so it creates a problem
biodiversity so it creates a problem where does this biodiversity actually go
where does this biodiversity actually go
where does this biodiversity actually go because rain forests contain fifty
because rain forests contain fifty
because rain forests contain fifty percent of the biodiversity on the
percent of the biodiversity on the
percent of the biodiversity on the planet in the areas in Indonesia
planet in the areas in Indonesia
planet in the areas in Indonesia Malaysia there’s hundreds of endangered
Malaysia there’s hundreds of endangered
Malaysia there’s hundreds of endangered species and critically endangered
species and critically endangered
species and critically endangered species like orangutang pangolins
species like orangutang pangolins
species like orangutang pangolins hundreds of bird species are being lost
hundreds of bird species are being lost
hundreds of bird species are being lost the orangutan kind of special to me
the orangutan kind of special to me
the orangutan kind of special to me genetically one of our closest cousins
genetically one of our closest cousins
genetically one of our closest cousins which is great but there are only about
which is great but there are only about
which is great but there are only about 60,000 left in the world and they’re all
60,000 left in the world and they’re all
60,000 left in the world and they’re all in these two countries that’s down
in these two countries that’s down
in these two countries that’s down eighty percent from a hundred years ago
eighty percent from a hundred years ago
eighty percent from a hundred years ago and in the next ten years is projected
and in the next ten years is projected
and in the next ten years is projected to thirty percent of the habitats they
to thirty percent of the habitats they
to thirty percent of the habitats they live in is going to disappear due to
live in is going to disappear due to
live in is going to disappear due to this process so it’s a pretty tough
this process so it’s a pretty tough
this process so it’s a pretty tough problem one of the things you can do and
problem one of the things you can do and
problem one of the things you can do and this is where you come in as an
this is where you come in as an
this is where you come in as an individual you have to learn it will
individual you have to learn it will
individual you have to learn it will take about two minutes for you to learn
take about two minutes for you to learn
take about two minutes for you to learn how do you identify when there’s Paul
how do you identify when there’s Paul
how do you identify when there’s Paul molé and the products you eat it comes
molé and the products you eat it comes
molé and the products you eat it comes under several names sometimes it’s very
under several names sometimes it’s very
under several names sometimes it’s very easy it just says palm oil other times
easy it just says palm oil other times
easy it just says palm oil other times its palm kernel oil because you can
its palm kernel oil because you can
its palm kernel oil because you can actually take a slightly different type
actually take a slightly different type
actually take a slightly different type of oil out of the kernel of the fruit or
of oil out of the kernel of the fruit or
of oil out of the kernel of the fruit or palm vegetable oil sometimes it’s
palm vegetable oil sometimes it’s
palm vegetable oil sometimes it’s abbreviated in acronyms sometimes it
abbreviated in acronyms sometimes it
abbreviated in acronyms sometimes it just says vegetable oil but it’s really
just says vegetable oil but it’s really
just says vegetable oil but it’s really palm well you have to dig deeper and
palm well you have to dig deeper and
palm well you have to dig deeper and find out once you learn that you can
find out once you learn that you can
find out once you learn that you can look on the ingredients for boxes and
look on the ingredients for boxes and
look on the ingredients for boxes and figure out hey is what i’m eating
figure out hey is what i’m eating
figure out hey is what i’m eating actually palm oil or not and then what
actually palm oil or not and then what
actually palm oil or not and then what do you do you have a choice
do you do you have a choice
do you do you have a choice I call it the just gasps choice you can
I call it the just gasps choice you can
I call it the just gasps choice you can either eat it or not eat it but there
either eat it or not eat it but there
either eat it or not eat it but there are a lot of companies both in the
are a lot of companies both in the
are a lot of companies both in the supply chain and in the consumer goods
supply chain and in the consumer goods
supply chain and in the consumer goods area that are very aware of this problem
area that are very aware of this problem
area that are very aware of this problem and have gone out and made no
and have gone out and made no
and have gone out and made no deforestation pledges which is terrific
deforestation pledges which is terrific
deforestation pledges which is terrific they’re aware of this and they’re
they’re aware of this and they’re
they’re aware of this and they’re starting to work on it but it’s one of
starting to work on it but it’s one of
starting to work on it but it’s one of these critical you know easier said than
these critical you know easier said than
these critical you know easier said than done situations where because of the
done situations where because of the
done situations where because of the confusion in the supply chain because of
confusion in the supply chain because of
confusion in the supply chain because of a very difficult challenge of tracing
a very difficult challenge of tracing
a very difficult challenge of tracing who actually sold what fruit from what
who actually sold what fruit from what
who actually sold what fruit from what field from what processing plant through
field from what processing plant through
field from what processing plant through what processor to a thing it’s extremely
what processor to a thing it’s extremely
what processor to a thing it’s extremely different difficult and these companies
different difficult and these companies
different difficult and these companies need I would say more than just a little
need I would say more than just a little
need I would say more than just a little encouragement to keep on the fight to
encouragement to keep on the fight to
encouragement to keep on the fight to try and trace us back and solve this
try and trace us back and solve this
try and trace us back and solve this problem and the way you can do that
problem and the way you can do that
problem and the way you can do that because we have great tools and we have
because we have great tools and we have
because we have great tools and we have language is text and email you’d be
language is text and email you’d be
language is text and email you’d be remarkably impressed how powerful an
remarkably impressed how powerful an
remarkably impressed how powerful an individual can be by just texting and
individual can be by just texting and
individual can be by just texting and asking a company a question about their
asking a company a question about their
asking a company a question about their products companies are extremely
products companies are extremely
products companies are extremely extremely sensitive to consumer input in
extremely sensitive to consumer input in
extremely sensitive to consumer input in fact they spend billions of dollars
fact they spend billions of dollars
fact they spend billions of dollars trying to get you to buy something and
trying to get you to buy something and
trying to get you to buy something and when you stop buying it they want to
when you stop buying it they want to
when you stop buying it they want to know why but if you can get ahead of
know why but if you can get ahead of
know why but if you can get ahead of them and tell them we don’t like what
them and tell them we don’t like what
them and tell them we don’t like what you’re doing or we want you to come up
you’re doing or we want you to come up
you’re doing or we want you to come up with a substitute use a domestic use
with a substitute use a domestic use
with a substitute use a domestic use something else but this or prove to us
something else but this or prove to us
something else but this or prove to us that you’re actually doing it in a way
that you’re actually doing it in a way
that you’re actually doing it in a way that’s sustainable that really helps and
that’s sustainable that really helps and
that’s sustainable that really helps and you have that capability every one of
you have that capability every one of
you have that capability every one of you does so we’re down to a system where
you does so we’re down to a system where
you does so we’re down to a system where you can either make a choice and do
you can either make a choice and do
you can either make a choice and do something about it or continue the
something about it or continue the
something about it or continue the system we’ve set out I actually think
system we’ve set out I actually think
system we’ve set out I actually think this is one of the more powerful things
this is one of the more powerful things
this is one of the more powerful things because not only by putting pressure on
because not only by putting pressure on
because not only by putting pressure on the companies that do this you can
the companies that do this you can
the companies that do this you can reduce global warming you can save
reduce global warming you can save
reduce global warming you can save biodiversity you can actually get
biodiversity you can actually get
biodiversity you can actually get something else good d thank you for
something else good d thank you for
something else good d thank you for listening
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