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so question when a scientist thinks

so question when a scientist thinks about themselves or when scientists

about themselves or when scientists

about themselves or when scientists think about themselves what do they

think about themselves what do they

think about themselves what do they think about no not an individual

think about no not an individual

think about no not an individual scientists like me thinking about myself

scientists like me thinking about myself

scientists like me thinking about myself but when scientists collectively think

but when scientists collectively think

but when scientists collectively think about themselves collectively what do

about themselves collectively what do

about themselves collectively what do they have in mind I would please let me

they have in mind I would please let me

they have in mind I would please let me explain my question so if I talk to a

explain my question so if I talk to a

explain my question so if I talk to a body of students who have different

body of students who have different

body of students who have different aspirations one wants to go into the

aspirations one wants to go into the

aspirations one wants to go into the political establishment one of them

political establishment one of them

political establishment one of them wants to go into the legal profession

wants to go into the legal profession

wants to go into the legal profession these words that we use to talk about

these words that we use to talk about

these words that we use to talk about things body establishment profession are

things body establishment profession are

things body establishment profession are important partly because they tell us

important partly because they tell us

important partly because they tell us something about the way historically

something about the way historically

something about the way historically that group has been viewed and probably

that group has been viewed and probably

that group has been viewed and probably because they form our view of that group

because they form our view of that group

because they form our view of that group for the future so then asking a student

for the future so then asking a student

for the future so then asking a student body how the scientists think about

body how the scientists think about

body how the scientists think about themselves collectively

themselves collectively

so a scientist is a member of a

so a scientist is a member of a scientific community which might on the

scientific community which might on the

scientific community which might on the face of it seems strange in as much as

face of it seems strange in as much as

face of it seems strange in as much as when you think of a scientist you think

when you think of a scientist you think

when you think of a scientist you think of one crazy guy in a lab coat if you

of one crazy guy in a lab coat if you

of one crazy guy in a lab coat if you think of scientists at all when you

think of scientists at all when you

think of scientists at all when you learn to write scientific reports you’re

learn to write scientific reports you’re

learn to write scientific reports you’re told to remove all mention of the actual

told to remove all mention of the actual

told to remove all mention of the actual scientists that did it the laser power

scientists that did it the laser power

scientists that did it the laser power was increased as if by magic it’s almost

was increased as if by magic it’s almost

was increased as if by magic it’s almost as if scientists are somehow embarrassed

as if scientists are somehow embarrassed

as if scientists are somehow embarrassed that scientists exist they just want to

that scientists exist they just want to

that scientists exist they just want to put the science out there as objectively

put the science out there as objectively

put the science out there as objectively an unhuman lee as possible but our

an unhuman lee as possible but our

an unhuman lee as possible but our language betrays us in the same way the

language betrays us in the same way the

language betrays us in the same way the body of students forms itself into a

body of students forms itself into a

body of students forms itself into a student union a scientific community for

student union a scientific community for

student union a scientific community for example I belong to the Austrian

example I belong to the Austrian

example I belong to the Austrian physical society again this word of

physical society again this word of

physical society again this word of society community it comes up it betrays

society community it comes up it betrays

society community it comes up it betrays the fact that however a bijective an

the fact that however a bijective an

the fact that however a bijective an unhuman we would like to be the

unhuman we would like to be the

unhuman we would like to be the scientific process is at core a

scientific process is at core a

scientific process is at core a community endeavor so there’s a lot of

community endeavor so there’s a lot of

community endeavor so there’s a lot of talk about

scientifically literacy understanding

scientifically literacy understanding science from educators politicians the

science from educators politicians the

science from educators politicians the general public that they should

general public that they should

general public that they should understand what science is about and

understand what science is about and

understand what science is about and it’s nice to think that you know that

it’s nice to think that you know that

it’s nice to think that you know that equals MC squared but I’m going to argue

equals MC squared but I’m going to argue

equals MC squared but I’m going to argue today that more important for

today that more important for

today that more important for understanding science is to understand

understanding science is to understand

understanding science is to understand that at core science is a community

that at core science is a community

that at core science is a community endeavor so

endeavor so

endeavor so [Music]

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[Music] there’s a way that people sometimes

there’s a way that people sometimes

there’s a way that people sometimes think of science that basically science

think of science that basically science

think of science that basically science looks like this okay you put the data in

looks like this okay you put the data in

looks like this okay you put the data in the top you turn the handle and the

the top you turn the handle and the

the top you turn the handle and the results come out the end this is how

results come out the end this is how

results come out the end this is how science works we kind of think and in

science works we kind of think and in

science works we kind of think and in this picture there are three things that

this picture there are three things that

this picture there are three things that a scientist can do they can shovel data

a scientist can do they can shovel data

a scientist can do they can shovel data into the top they can turn an well they

into the top they can turn an well they

into the top they can turn an well they can wipe the results up that come out

can wipe the results up that come out

can wipe the results up that come out the end there’s no community in this

the end there’s no community in this

the end there’s no community in this picture so there’s just one guy doing

picture so there’s just one guy doing

picture so there’s just one guy doing this you can specialize in this and he

this you can specialize in this and he

this you can specialize in this and he doesn’t need any want it just shovels it

doesn’t need any want it just shovels it

doesn’t need any want it just shovels it in or we can turn the handle but we can

in or we can turn the handle but we can

in or we can turn the handle but we can pick up the results they don’t have to

pick up the results they don’t have to

pick up the results they don’t have to interact with each other one scientist

interact with each other one scientist

interact with each other one scientist could do all three jobs or he could

could do all three jobs or he could

could do all three jobs or he could specialize which means if my main aim

specialize which means if my main aim

specialize which means if my main aim today is to try and convince you that

today is to try and convince you that

today is to try and convince you that society science works in community that

society science works in community that

society science works in community that either means that my whole thesis is

either means that my whole thesis is

either means that my whole thesis is wrong well that this picture doesn’t

wrong well that this picture doesn’t

wrong well that this picture doesn’t tell us the whole story so I’m going to

tell us the whole story so I’m going to

tell us the whole story so I’m going to just work through this bit by bit and

just work through this bit by bit and

just work through this bit by bit and see where maybe the business story

see where maybe the business story

see where maybe the business story missing what do we put in the top so

missing what do we put in the top so

missing what do we put in the top so some time ago I was I was working on

some time ago I was I was working on

some time ago I was I was working on building iron traps I want to take a

building iron traps I want to take a

building iron traps I want to take a single atom pull electron off and I want

single atom pull electron off and I want

single atom pull electron off and I want to hold it somewhere and I can build

to hold it somewhere and I can build

to hold it somewhere and I can build devices to do this this is the device

devices to do this this is the device

devices to do this this is the device then this is a little cloud of atoms

then this is a little cloud of atoms

then this is a little cloud of atoms sitting above it now schematically it

sitting above it now schematically it

sitting above it now schematically it looks like this and importantly these

looks like this and importantly these

looks like this and importantly these are cold and when I say cold I mean this

are cold and when I say cold I mean this

are cold and when I say cold I mean this is about three millionths of a degree

is about three millionths of a degree

is about three millionths of a degree above absolute zero and this is about

above absolute zero and this is about

above absolute zero and this is about room temperature so it’s a hundred

room temperature so it’s a hundred

room temperature so it’s a hundred million times hotter than the ions and

million times hotter than the ions and

million times hotter than the ions and it’s about half a milliliter away and it

it’s about half a milliliter away and it

it’s about half a milliliter away and it shouldn’t come as a surprise to you that

shouldn’t come as a surprise to you that

shouldn’t come as a surprise to you that when you put a very cold thing next to

when you put a very cold thing next to

when you put a very cold thing next to our hot thing the cold thing heats up

our hot thing the cold thing heats up

our hot thing the cold thing heats up and this is what we observe but the big

and this is what we observe but the big

and this is what we observe but the big puzzle was it was heating up about a

puzzle was it was heating up about a

puzzle was it was heating up about a billion times faster than we would

billion times faster than we would

billion times faster than we would naively expect it to

naively expect it to

naively expect it to so we need to put something in the top

so we need to put something in the top

so we need to put something in the top we need to put some data in but the

we need to put some data in but the

we need to put some data in but the question is what data do we put in this

question is what data do we put in this

question is what data do we put in this machine doesn’t tell us what data at

machine doesn’t tell us what data at

machine doesn’t tell us what data at wants so you can say well maybe the

wants so you can say well maybe the

wants so you can say well maybe the material I make it off is significant

material I make it off is significant

material I make it off is significant maybe if i make it of gold or copper it

maybe if i make it of gold or copper it

maybe if i make it of gold or copper it makes a difference is that the kind of

makes a difference is that the kind of

makes a difference is that the kind of thing that’s worth considering is that

thing that’s worth considering is that

thing that’s worth considering is that the data that’s worth putting in the top

the data that’s worth putting in the top

the data that’s worth putting in the top and the answer is yes but then we have a

and the answer is yes but then we have a

and the answer is yes but then we have a spectrum here and you say is what I had

spectrum here and you say is what I had

spectrum here and you say is what I had for breakfast we’re going to be

for breakfast we’re going to be

for breakfast we’re going to be important and the answer is probably not

important and the answer is probably not

important and the answer is probably not my breakfast does not change my results

my breakfast does not change my results

my breakfast does not change my results in the lab so we can ignore this and

in the lab so we can ignore this and

in the lab so we can ignore this and those two are obvious but there are lots

those two are obvious but there are lots

those two are obvious but there are lots of things in the middle which are kind

of things in the middle which are kind

of things in the middle which are kind of grey so for example is it worth

of grey so for example is it worth

of grey so for example is it worth considering the surface finish of my

considering the surface finish of my

considering the surface finish of my metal probably but conceivably it’s

metal probably but conceivably it’s

metal probably but conceivably it’s irrelevant is it worth considering the

irrelevant is it worth considering the

irrelevant is it worth considering the number of sunspots that day probably not

number of sunspots that day probably not

number of sunspots that day probably not but we did come up with one or two

but we did come up with one or two

but we did come up with one or two models where it might have been relevant

models where it might have been relevant

models where it might have been relevant so within this mechanistic scientific

so within this mechanistic scientific

so within this mechanistic scientific model there is no way of saying this is

model there is no way of saying this is

model there is no way of saying this is the information it’s important and this

the information it’s important and this

the information it’s important and this is not because until we understand the

is not because until we understand the

is not because until we understand the problem we don’t know what we need to

problem we don’t know what we need to

problem we don’t know what we need to learn about but if we understood the

learn about but if we understood the

learn about but if we understood the problem that we wouldn’t be doing the

problem that we wouldn’t be doing the

problem that we wouldn’t be doing the research because there wouldn’t be a

research because there wouldn’t be a

research because there wouldn’t be a question to ask so what the scientists

question to ask so what the scientists

question to ask so what the scientists do I spent four years going around and

do I spent four years going around and

do I spent four years going around and talking to people other scientists

talking to people other scientists

talking to people other scientists there’s one view that says well just

there’s one view that says well just

there’s one view that says well just shovel as much stuffing to the top as

shovel as much stuffing to the top as

shovel as much stuffing to the top as possible we don’t understand but

possible we don’t understand but

possible we don’t understand but hopefully we’ll get working we’ll find

hopefully we’ll get working we’ll find

hopefully we’ll get working we’ll find something out there’s another view that

something out there’s another view that

something out there’s another view that says stop go back to the beginning look

says stop go back to the beginning look

says stop go back to the beginning look at all of our assumptions everything we

at all of our assumptions everything we

at all of our assumptions everything we ever thought what have we assumed what

ever thought what have we assumed what

ever thought what have we assumed what do we not even realize we assumed what

do we not even realize we assumed what

do we not even realize we assumed what do we assume that never talked about and

if you go for the option of picking out

if you go for the option of picking out your assumptions you’ll spend a long

your assumptions you’ll spend a long

your assumptions you’ll spend a long time doing that and you’re slowly but

time doing that and you’re slowly but

time doing that and you’re slowly but surely get there and if you just throw

surely get there and if you just throw

surely get there and if you just throw things in the top maybe you’ll get lucky

things in the top maybe you’ll get lucky

things in the top maybe you’ll get lucky and maybe you’ll spend your entire life

and maybe you’ll spend your entire life

and maybe you’ll spend your entire life doing random experiments this mechanism

doing random experiments this mechanism

doing random experiments this mechanism doesn’t tell us that what scientists do

doesn’t tell us that what scientists do

doesn’t tell us that what scientists do is within community they discuss it

is within community they discuss it

is within community they discuss it sometimes passionately what exactly you

sometimes passionately what exactly you

sometimes passionately what exactly you should do now to cut a long story short

should do now to cut a long story short

should do now to cut a long story short what actually the cause of this heating

what actually the cause of this heating

what actually the cause of this heating that we didn’t understand was that there

that we didn’t understand was that there

that we didn’t understand was that there wasn’t one single thing causing the

wasn’t one single thing causing the

wasn’t one single thing causing the problem there were many things there are

problem there were many things there are

problem there were many things there are at least six different mechanisms we

at least six different mechanisms we

at least six different mechanisms we identified but to understand those

identified but to understand those

identified but to understand those mechanisms we needed to find a surface

mechanisms we needed to find a surface

mechanisms we needed to find a surface scientist a material scientist an

scientist a material scientist an

scientist a material scientist an electrical engineer a theorists and

electrical engineer a theorists and

electrical engineer a theorists and experimentalists someone who’s prepared

experimentalists someone who’s prepared

experimentalists someone who’s prepared to run ahead and just try crazy ideas

to run ahead and just try crazy ideas

to run ahead and just try crazy ideas and someone who’s prepared step-by-step

and someone who’s prepared step-by-step

and someone who’s prepared step-by-step to work things through we needed a

to work things through we needed a

to work things through we needed a community of scientists

so here this picture of one guy

so here this picture of one guy shoveling stuff in the top is is is too

shoveling stuff in the top is is is too

shoveling stuff in the top is is is too simplistic we need a community now

simplistic we need a community now

simplistic we need a community now moving on how long should we turn the

moving on how long should we turn the

moving on how long should we turn the handle for

to give a quick clue turning it forever

to give a quick clue turning it forever and never stopping just cranking that

and never stopping just cranking that

and never stopping just cranking that handle is probably not a good way to do

handle is probably not a good way to do

handle is probably not a good way to do science because it gets boring off the

science because it gets boring off the

science because it gets boring off the first thousand years at some point you

first thousand years at some point you

first thousand years at some point you want to move on and do something else

want to move on and do something else

want to move on and do something else but saying we’ll just turn it once is

but saying we’ll just turn it once is

but saying we’ll just turn it once is probably not the right answer either and

probably not the right answer either and

probably not the right answer either and somewhere in the middle is where it gets

somewhere in the middle is where it gets

somewhere in the middle is where it gets interesting so when people look for

interesting so when people look for

interesting so when people look for example for the Higgs boson they got

example for the Higgs boson they got

example for the Higgs boson they got sufficient data that the probability of

sufficient data that the probability of

sufficient data that the probability of a false positive the probability of

a false positive the probability of

a false positive the probability of thinking it was there when it wasn’t was

thinking it was there when it wasn’t was

thinking it was there when it wasn’t was one in three million now they could have

one in three million now they could have

one in three million now they could have spent another ten years and another ten

spent another ten years and another ten

spent another ten years and another ten billion dollars to get that probability

billion dollars to get that probability

billion dollars to get that probability down to one in 30 billion 1 in 300

down to one in 30 billion 1 in 300

down to one in 30 billion 1 in 300 billion it’s still uncertainty but at

billion it’s still uncertainty but at

billion it’s still uncertainty but at some point you have to stop and say

some point you have to stop and say

some point you have to stop and say enough’s enough we’re going to move on

enough’s enough we’re going to move on

enough’s enough we’re going to move on to another question if you spend an

to another question if you spend an

to another question if you spend an extra couple of years trying to be small

extra couple of years trying to be small

extra couple of years trying to be small certain if that he’s boson no one’s

certain if that he’s boson no one’s

certain if that he’s boson no one’s going to die it’s not a problem on the

going to die it’s not a problem on the

going to die it’s not a problem on the other hand in medical sciences the

other hand in medical sciences the

other hand in medical sciences the longer you wait to just double check

longer you wait to just double check

longer you wait to just double check that your cure works people are dying

that your cure works people are dying

that your cure works people are dying which is why in medical sciences you say

which is why in medical sciences you say

which is why in medical sciences you say one chance in 20 is good enough

so let me show you a map now if you’ll

so let me show you a map now if you’ll excuse the great oversimplification

excuse the great oversimplification

excuse the great oversimplification roughly speaking the country shown in

roughly speaking the country shown in

roughly speaking the country shown in red on this map the countries that poor

red on this map the countries that poor

red on this map the countries that poor significant amounts of money into

significant amounts of money into

significant amounts of money into scientific research on things like

scientific research on things like

scientific research on things like climate change and they’ve worked out

climate change and they’ve worked out

climate change and they’ve worked out that climate change is happening the

that climate change is happening the

that climate change is happening the world is almost certainly getting warmer

world is almost certainly getting warmer

world is almost certainly getting warmer and they’re pretty sure they know what’s

and they’re pretty sure they know what’s

and they’re pretty sure they know what’s causing it but almost certainly and

causing it but almost certainly and

causing it but almost certainly and pretty sure is not absolutely certain

pretty sure is not absolutely certain

pretty sure is not absolutely certain and absolutely sure so you can always

and absolutely sure so you can always

and absolutely sure so you can always say we should turn the handle for longer

say we should turn the handle for longer

say we should turn the handle for longer we can refine our models more we can

we can refine our models more we can

we can refine our models more we can check whether or not the world has so

check whether or not the world has so

check whether or not the world has so far warmed up by nor point 82 degrees or

far warmed up by nor point 82 degrees or

far warmed up by nor point 82 degrees or by new point 79 degrees we can get the

by new point 79 degrees we can get the

by new point 79 degrees we can get the precision higher and higher but at some

precision higher and higher but at some

precision higher and higher but at some point we have to ask should we keep

point we have to ask should we keep

point we have to ask should we keep turning the handle we can flip the

turning the handle we can flip the

turning the handle we can flip the question around and say when should we

question around and say when should we

question around and say when should we stop turning the handle if I show you

stop turning the handle if I show you

stop turning the handle if I show you another picture this marks in red if

another picture this marks in red if

another picture this marks in red if you’ll excuse the oversimplification

you’ll excuse the oversimplification

you’ll excuse the oversimplification this marks in red the countries that are

this marks in red the countries that are

this marks in red the countries that are most going to get hurt by climate change

most going to get hurt by climate change

most going to get hurt by climate change it’s not coincidental that the guys who

it’s not coincidental that the guys who

it’s not coincidental that the guys who have enough money to invest in research

have enough money to invest in research

have enough money to invest in research into climate change are also the guys

into climate change are also the guys

into climate change are also the guys that have enough money to pay for bigger

that have enough money to pay for bigger

that have enough money to pay for bigger air conditioners or bigger flood

air conditioners or bigger flood

air conditioners or bigger flood defenses so the scientists sitting up

defenses so the scientists sitting up

defenses so the scientists sitting up here can quite happily keep on turning

here can quite happily keep on turning

here can quite happily keep on turning the handle and refining their theories

the handle and refining their theories

the handle and refining their theories and it’s not going to hurt them just yet

and it’s not going to hurt them just yet

and it’s not going to hurt them just yet where is the guy sitting down here are

where is the guy sitting down here are

where is the guy sitting down here are going to get hurt so the question when

going to get hurt so the question when

going to get hurt so the question when should we stop turning the handle in

should we stop turning the handle in

should we stop turning the handle in this situation while being an integral

this situation while being an integral

this situation while being an integral part of science is not just limited to

part of science is not just limited to

part of science is not just limited to philosophers of science in an ivory

philosophers of science in an ivory

philosophers of science in an ivory tower it is a world changing life

tower it is a world changing life

tower it is a world changing life changing moral question it’s interesting

changing moral question it’s interesting

changing moral question it’s interesting that science here when to stop turning

that science here when to stop turning

that science here when to stop turning the handle suddenly becomes a moral

the handle suddenly becomes a moral

the handle suddenly becomes a moral question who is the best placed to

question who is the best placed to

question who is the best placed to answer that question now you want

answer that question now you want

answer that question now you want someone who understands the scientific

someone who understands the scientific

someone who understands the scientific theories who understands the present

theories who understands the present

theories who understands the present state of knowledge who knows what the

state of knowledge who knows what the

state of knowledge who knows what the strong points are what we don’t really

strong points are what we don’t really

strong points are what we don’t really know or understand yet the strengths and

know or understand yet the strengths and

know or understand yet the strengths and the weaknesses of the particular

the weaknesses of the particular

the weaknesses of the particular theories the opportunities and the

theories the opportunities and the

theories the opportunities and the threats of the given technological

threats of the given technological

threats of the given technological solutions the people best placed to work

solutions the people best placed to work

solutions the people best placed to work out when to stop turning the handle and

out when to stop turning the handle and

out when to stop turning the handle and move on to a different question to stop

move on to a different question to stop

move on to a different question to stop describing the problem and start solving

describing the problem and start solving

describing the problem and start solving it are the scientists themselves

it are the scientists themselves

it are the scientists themselves involved in it now some people might say

involved in it now some people might say

involved in it now some people might say the scientists should just do the

the scientists should just do the

the scientists should just do the science and leave the decisions up to

science and leave the decisions up to

science and leave the decisions up to the politicians so the scientists

the politicians so the scientists

the politicians so the scientists explain the results as best they can to

explain the results as best they can to

explain the results as best they can to the politicians they hope that the

the politicians they hope that the

the politicians they hope that the politicians have understood it and we

politicians have understood it and we

politicians have understood it and we just have to give the politicians some

just have to give the politicians some

just have to give the politicians some moral training and hope that the

moral training and hope that the

moral training and hope that the politicians aren’t corrupt well maybe

politicians aren’t corrupt well maybe

politicians aren’t corrupt well maybe that’s a good idea or maybe we can just

that’s a good idea or maybe we can just

that’s a good idea or maybe we can just short circuit the entire process and say

short circuit the entire process and say

short circuit the entire process and say why don’t we give some moral formation

why don’t we give some moral formation

why don’t we give some moral formation to the scientists to explain to them as

to the scientists to explain to them as

to the scientists to explain to them as a community the bigger issues involved

so why then is this important firstly if

so why then is this important firstly if you consider science to be a machine

you consider science to be a machine

you consider science to be a machine like this then when you’re training

like this then when you’re training

like this then when you’re training scientists the questions you need to

scientists the questions you need to

scientists the questions you need to train them for our learners equation

train them for our learners equation

train them for our learners equation than this theory learn this experimental

than this theory learn this experimental

than this theory learn this experimental technique the idea of the scientists

technique the idea of the scientists

technique the idea of the scientists hopes aspirations beliefs values social

hopes aspirations beliefs values social

hopes aspirations beliefs values social ability are at best irrelevant to the

ability are at best irrelevant to the

ability are at best irrelevant to the scientific process and it worse

scientific process and it worse

scientific process and it worse detrimental to the scientific process on

detrimental to the scientific process on

detrimental to the scientific process on the other hand if science works as a

the other hand if science works as a

the other hand if science works as a community then questions like we can

community then questions like we can

community then questions like we can measure this but should we we can build

measure this but should we we can build

measure this but should we we can build this but should we become then integral

this but should we become then integral

this but should we become then integral to the formation of a scientist

to the formation of a scientist

to the formation of a scientist [Music]

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[Music] do they play well with others the lone

do they play well with others the lone

do they play well with others the lone mad scientist can’t cut it in the world

mad scientist can’t cut it in the world

mad scientist can’t cut it in the world of science so why then is that

of science so why then is that

of science so why then is that interesting to you guys here today given

interesting to you guys here today given

interesting to you guys here today given after young scientists so if again we

after young scientists so if again we

after young scientists so if again we have this picture where it’s just this

have this picture where it’s just this

have this picture where it’s just this mechanism then people from other fields

mechanism then people from other fields

mechanism then people from other fields from politics from philosophy from the

from politics from philosophy from the

from politics from philosophy from the theology from art from marketing our

theology from art from marketing our

theology from art from marketing our bystanders to the scientific process

bystanders to the scientific process

bystanders to the scientific process they can watch and they are recipients

they can watch and they are recipients

they can watch and they are recipients thankful recipients of whatever comes

thankful recipients of whatever comes

thankful recipients of whatever comes out the end of our machine oh look a new

out the end of our machine oh look a new

out the end of our machine oh look a new picture of the universe from the Hubble

picture of the universe from the Hubble

picture of the universe from the Hubble Space Telescope thank you very much all

Space Telescope thank you very much all

Space Telescope thank you very much all a new medical cure or a new mobile phone

a new medical cure or a new mobile phone

a new medical cure or a new mobile phone but they are detached from have no say

but they are detached from have no say

but they are detached from have no say in the churning of the handle of the

in the churning of the handle of the

in the churning of the handle of the scientific process if on the other hand

scientific process if on the other hand

scientific process if on the other hand this is a community endeavor where

this is a community endeavor where

this is a community endeavor where values are important where the idea of

values are important where the idea of

values are important where the idea of what we want to achieve through the

what we want to achieve through the

what we want to achieve through the science why we are asking these

science why we are asking these

science why we are asking these questions take on an important wait in

questions take on an important wait in

questions take on an important wait in the scientific process then you to

the scientific process then you to

the scientific process then you to become involved in the formation of the

become involved in the formation of the

become involved in the formation of the scientific community because within

scientific community because within

scientific community because within community is where and how science does

community is where and how science does

community is where and how science does and must happen and that’s why it’s

and must happen and that’s why it’s

and must happen and that’s why it’s vitally important that everyone in all

vitally important that everyone in all

vitally important that everyone in all communities that are affected by science

communities that are affected by science

communities that are affected by science understand how science works

understand how science works

understand how science works thank you very much

thank you very much

thank you very much [Music]

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