Where is Jimmy Hoffa? Former Driver’s Theory

for decades he drove around some of the

for decades he drove around some of the most important men in the mob world

most important men in the mob world

most important men in the mob world including Jimmy Hoffa little did they

including Jimmy Hoffa little did they

including Jimmy Hoffa little did they know one day he would become an

know one day he would become an

know one day he would become an important police informant hi I’m

important police informant hi I’m

important police informant hi I’m Rebecca Brayton and welcome to

Rebecca Brayton and welcome to

Rebecca Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and today we’re speaking

watchmojo.com and today we’re speaking

watchmojo.com and today we’re speaking with journalist Adrienne Humphries and

with journalist Adrienne Humphries and

with journalist Adrienne Humphries and Marvin Elkin better known as the weasel

Marvin Elkin better known as the weasel

Marvin Elkin better known as the weasel about Jimmy Hoffa and his current

about Jimmy Hoffa and his current

about Jimmy Hoffa and his current whereabouts now tell us how you ended up

whereabouts now tell us how you ended up

whereabouts now tell us how you ended up in New York as Jimmy Hoffa’s driver so I

in New York as Jimmy Hoffa’s driver so I

in New York as Jimmy Hoffa’s driver so I got a job as a busboy at the Copacabana

got a job as a busboy at the Copacabana

got a job as a busboy at the Copacabana famous nightclub in New York only action

famous nightclub in New York only action

famous nightclub in New York only action at that time by mr. Lou Walters Barbara

at that time by mr. Lou Walters Barbara

at that time by mr. Lou Walters Barbara Walters father and in order to work at

Walters father and in order to work at

Walters father and in order to work at the Copacabana you had to be a member of

the Copacabana you had to be a member of

the Copacabana you had to be a member of Teamsters it was very easy to join up

Teamsters it was very easy to join up

Teamsters it was very easy to join up and a group of mr. Hafiz associates used

and a group of mr. Hafiz associates used

and a group of mr. Hafiz associates used to come in there quite often the staff

to come in there quite often the staff

to come in there quite often the staff were scared to serve them because they

were scared to serve them because they

were scared to serve them because they were tough guys and they try to act it

were tough guys and they try to act it

were tough guys and they try to act it they did shouting and yelling but I knew

they did shouting and yelling but I knew

they did shouting and yelling but I knew they weren’t gonna do anything and they

they weren’t gonna do anything and they

they weren’t gonna do anything and they were big tippers so when they came in I

other people would run from them I

other people would run from them I didn’t I ran to them after I was there a

didn’t I ran to them after I was there a

didn’t I ran to them after I was there a few months when Dave called me or he

few months when Dave called me or he

few months when Dave called me or he said was a Wednesday

said was a Wednesday

said was a Wednesday he said Friday’s your last day here we

he said Friday’s your last day here we

he said Friday’s your last day here we spoke to the Walters Friday’s glass date

spoke to the Walters Friday’s glass date

spoke to the Walters Friday’s glass date I got quite upset as well why I’m trying

I got quite upset as well why I’m trying

I got quite upset as well why I’m trying so hard to do a good job they said yeah

so hard to do a good job they said yeah

so hard to do a good job they said yeah but as of Monday your office driver says

but as of Monday your office driver says

but as of Monday your office driver says I’m what said you were gonna be half-ass

I’m what said you were gonna be half-ass

I’m what said you were gonna be half-ass driver as of Monday and as well I don’t

driver as of Monday and as well I don’t

driver as of Monday and as well I don’t want to be office driver since Larry

want to be office driver since Larry

want to be office driver since Larry said to me nobody’s asking you and what

said to me nobody’s asking you and what

said to me nobody’s asking you and what did you learn as his driver mr. Hoffa

was not the way the world history take

was not the way the world history take not to be he wasn’t he wasn’t really a

not to be he wasn’t he wasn’t really a

not to be he wasn’t he wasn’t really a gangster he was a tough guy fearless man

really wanted to do well for his Union

really wanted to do well for his Union and no question about it he brought the

and no question about it he brought the

and no question about it he brought the Mafia in he made a deal with Don Vito

Mafia in he made a deal with Don Vito

Mafia in he made a deal with Don Vito Genovese he – because he needed muscle

Genovese he – because he needed muscle

Genovese he – because he needed muscle on the picket lines and you was when he

on the picket lines and you was when he

on the picket lines and you was when he didn’t need them they would leave that

didn’t need them they would leave that

didn’t need them they would leave that they came they told him to go jump in

they came they told him to go jump in

they came they told him to go jump in the lake so what he did bring the men he

the lake so what he did bring the men he

the lake so what he did bring the men he got involved with them but he really

got involved with them but he really

got involved with them but he really wasn’t a yes he really wasn’t like

wasn’t a yes he really wasn’t like

wasn’t a yes he really wasn’t like actually one of the things that sort of

actually one of the things that sort of

actually one of the things that sort of I threw me a little bit because Don Vito

I threw me a little bit because Don Vito

I threw me a little bit because Don Vito Don Vito spoke to you like he was your

Don Vito spoke to you like he was your

Don Vito spoke to you like he was your grandfather or your favorite uncle very

grandfather or your favorite uncle very

grandfather or your favorite uncle very nice

nice

nice very soft sometimes we’d be driving and

very soft sometimes we’d be driving and

very soft sometimes we’d be driving and mr. Hoffa would yell at me because that

mr. Hoffa would yell at me because that

mr. Hoffa would yell at me because that maybe he didn’t like that renovate them

maybe he didn’t like that renovate them

maybe he didn’t like that renovate them to a big deal and said neither used to

to a big deal and said neither used to

to a big deal and said neither used to save them by Jimmy what are you yelling

save them by Jimmy what are you yelling

save them by Jimmy what are you yelling at the boy he’s from doing a good job

at the boy he’s from doing a good job

at the boy he’s from doing a good job and they used to say myself the world is

and they used to say myself the world is

and they used to say myself the world is crazy they’re not they got this girl

crazy they’re not they got this girl

crazy they’re not they got this girl wrong something’s wrong here and one day

he asked him he said mr. Hoffman says

he asked him he said mr. Hoffman says Jimmy this guy just manufacture clothing

Jimmy this guy just manufacture clothing

Jimmy this guy just manufacture clothing manufacture he’s cooperating right mr.

manufacture he’s cooperating right mr.

manufacture he’s cooperating right mr. officer no he’s not Don Vito said well

officer no he’s not Don Vito said well

officer no he’s not Don Vito said well he’s got to go next day they found the

he’s got to go next day they found the

he’s got to go next day they found the guy did so that’s when I said to myself

guy did so that’s when I said to myself

guy did so that’s when I said to myself okay how this old guy talks this is a

okay how this old guy talks this is a

okay how this old guy talks this is a guy you know for Allison tell us a bit

guy you know for Allison tell us a bit

guy you know for Allison tell us a bit about the role and the importance of the

about the role and the importance of the

about the role and the importance of the informant and how he became an informant

informant and how he became an informant

informant and how he became an informant for a very complicated circumstance he

for a very complicated circumstance he

for a very complicated circumstance he had a cataclysmic confrontation he was

had a cataclysmic confrontation he was

had a cataclysmic confrontation he was he was

he was

he was seized upon by the detective constable

seized upon by the detective constable

seized upon by the detective constable who was a tremendous handler and

who was a tremendous handler and

who was a tremendous handler and handlers the police jargon for the

handlers the police jargon for the

handlers the police jargon for the primary police contact for a street

primary police contact for a street

primary police contact for a street informant who was pushing or encouraging

informant who was pushing or encouraging

informant who was pushing or encouraging Murph to to work as an informant Marv

Murph to to work as an informant Marv

Murph to to work as an informant Marv didn’t really have any interest in doing

didn’t really have any interest in doing

didn’t really have any interest in doing that but thought he’d play along see

that but thought he’d play along see

that but thought he’d play along see what he could get from them but then he

what he could get from them but then he

what he could get from them but then he was involved in a scam where the

was involved in a scam where the

was involved in a scam where the gangsters were given him alt making them

gangsters were given him alt making them

gangsters were given him alt making them take all the risk but giving him the

take all the risk but giving him the

take all the risk but giving him the smallest part of the profit and he got

smallest part of the profit and he got

smallest part of the profit and he got so angry with them he says I know how I

so angry with them he says I know how I

so angry with them he says I know how I can get back at them like I can hurt

can get back at them like I can hurt

can get back at them like I can hurt them without making a fist I’ll sell

them without making a fist I’ll sell

them without making a fist I’ll sell them to the coppers and he soon found

them to the coppers and he soon found

them to the coppers and he soon found that he was a far better Fink than he

that he was a far better Fink than he

that he was a far better Fink than he ever was a crook and and thank goodness

ever was a crook and and thank goodness

ever was a crook and and thank goodness for the rest of society that was the

for the rest of society that was the

for the rest of society that was the case because over the next 30 years he

case because over the next 30 years he

case because over the next 30 years he engaged in a remarkable array of capers

engaged in a remarkable array of capers

engaged in a remarkable array of capers and undercover operations with the FBI

and undercover operations with the FBI

and undercover operations with the FBI with the RCMP with the Theriault

with the RCMP with the Theriault

with the RCMP with the Theriault Provincial Police with city police all

Provincial Police with city police all

Provincial Police with city police all over with police forces and three

over with police forces and three

over with police forces and three continents to to trap spies mercenaries

continents to to trap spies mercenaries

continents to to trap spies mercenaries drug traffickers mobsters con men

drug traffickers mobsters con men

drug traffickers mobsters con men fraudsters pedophiles pornographers the

fraudsters pedophiles pornographers the

fraudsters pedophiles pornographers the list goes on quite a remarkable array of

list goes on quite a remarkable array of

list goes on quite a remarkable array of cases that both Marv was able to tell me

cases that both Marv was able to tell me

cases that both Marv was able to tell me about but also I was able to confirm

about but also I was able to confirm

about but also I was able to confirm through the police agencies and the

through the police agencies and the

through the police agencies and the retired police officers I interviewed

retired police officers I interviewed

retired police officers I interviewed and also the police notes that I managed

and also the police notes that I managed

and also the police notes that I managed to secure now in my research I found

to secure now in my research I found

to secure now in my research I found that you claim to know where Jimmy Hoffa

that you claim to know where Jimmy Hoffa

that you claim to know where Jimmy Hoffa is mr. Hoffa is in the concrete and the

is mr. Hoffa is in the concrete and the

is mr. Hoffa is in the concrete and the cornerstone of the Renaissance Center

cornerstone of the Renaissance Center

cornerstone of the Renaissance Center Hotel in Detroit Michigan they were

Hotel in Detroit Michigan they were

Hotel in Detroit Michigan they were getting ready to build the hotel mr.

getting ready to build the hotel mr.

getting ready to build the hotel mr. Hoffa goes missing and the next day all

Hoffa goes missing and the next day all

Hoffa goes missing and the next day all hell broke loose to pour concrete they

hell broke loose to pour concrete they

hell broke loose to pour concrete they did everything to make sure I never saw

did everything to make sure I never saw

did everything to make sure I never saw concrete poured so quick in my life

concrete poured so quick in my life

concrete poured so quick in my life director of the FBI was on TV once Larry

director of the FBI was on TV once Larry

director of the FBI was on TV once Larry King asked him where is we’re not sure

King asked him where is we’re not sure

King asked him where is we’re not sure but we think the Canadian driver is

but we think the Canadian driver is

but we think the Canadian driver is probably right after

probably right after

probably right after happened but I had thoughts us before

happened but I had thoughts us before

happened but I had thoughts us before there was a big meeting held at a hotel

there was a big meeting held at a hotel

there was a big meeting held at a hotel across the road from the Renaissance

across the road from the Renaissance

across the road from the Renaissance called the Omni the head of the meeting

called the Omni the head of the meeting

called the Omni the head of the meeting was the head of the trade mafia Tony

was the head of the trade mafia Tony

was the head of the trade mafia Tony Jacques awanee

Jacques awanee

Jacques awanee for a break it was over they said let’s

for a break it was over they said let’s

for a break it was over they said let’s have a little break we’ll have breakfast

have a little break we’ll have breakfast

have a little break we’ll have breakfast the meeting was over after three days

the meeting was over after three days

the meeting was over after three days let’s go across the residence have

let’s go across the residence have

let’s go across the residence have breakfast there so we all did and as we

breakfast there so we all did and as we

breakfast there so we all did and as we cross the dividing line from the Omni to

cross the dividing line from the Omni to

cross the dividing line from the Omni to the Renaissance mr. Tony Giacalone he

the Renaissance mr. Tony Giacalone he

the Renaissance mr. Tony Giacalone he says say good morning to mr. Hoffa boys

says say good morning to mr. Hoffa boys

says say good morning to mr. Hoffa boys 13 years I’ve been debriefing Marvin

13 years I’ve been debriefing Marvin

13 years I’ve been debriefing Marvin I’ve never caught him in a lie yet I’m

I’ve never caught him in a lie yet I’m

I’ve never caught him in a lie yet I’m still walking so don’t you think I

still walking so don’t you think I

still walking so don’t you think I haven’t stopped looking keep going

haven’t stopped looking keep going

haven’t stopped looking keep going thank you so much guys hey great

thank you so much guys hey great

thank you so much guys hey great interview thank you very much thank you