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Trust and the Internet


this is CG more for watchmojo.com today

this is CG more for watchmojo.com today we’re going to be talking to Julian

we’re going to be talking to Julian

we’re going to be talking to Julian Smith co-author of the New York Times

Smith co-author of the New York Times

Smith co-author of the New York Times bestselling book trust agents so tell me

bestselling book trust agents so tell me

bestselling book trust agents so tell me Julian what exactly is a trust agent

Julian what exactly is a trust agent

Julian what exactly is a trust agent with every change in media there was a

with every change in media there was a

with every change in media there was a change in the way people communicate it

change in the way people communicate it

change in the way people communicate it we still trust for the same reasons we

we still trust for the same reasons we

we still trust for the same reasons we still trust this for the same reasons

still trust this for the same reasons

still trust this for the same reasons that we trusted 300 400 and more years

that we trusted 300 400 and more years

that we trusted 300 400 and more years ago but the way that we communicate that

ago but the way that we communicate that

ago but the way that we communicate that trust is different with newspapers it’s

trust is different with newspapers it’s

trust is different with newspapers it’s different with television is different

different with television is different

different with television is different with every kind of media that we have

with every kind of media that we have

with every kind of media that we have and the big difference is now that we

and the big difference is now that we

and the big difference is now that we have something where the channel is less

have something where the channel is less

have something where the channel is less expensive it’s easier to get a channel

expensive it’s easier to get a channel

expensive it’s easier to get a channel you don’t need something like a radio

you don’t need something like a radio

you don’t need something like a radio tower you don’t need a printing press so

tower you don’t need a printing press so

tower you don’t need a printing press so more and more power and influence is

more and more power and influence is

more and more power and influence is coming into the hands of single

coming into the hands of single

coming into the hands of single individuals in a lot of cases people

individuals in a lot of cases people

individuals in a lot of cases people that run very powerful blogs or people

that run very powerful blogs or people

that run very powerful blogs or people that have popular Twitter streams or

that have popular Twitter streams or

that have popular Twitter streams or lots of friends on Facebook or whatever

lots of friends on Facebook or whatever

lots of friends on Facebook or whatever it is so that’s why you called them

it is so that’s why you called them

it is so that’s why you called them trust agents because they’re individuals

trust agents because they’re individuals

trust agents because they’re individuals often they represent companies but often

often they represent companies but often

often they represent companies but often they just represent themselves they get

they just represent themselves they get

they just represent themselves they get a great deal of influence through the

a great deal of influence through the

a great deal of influence through the web and never before has that really

web and never before has that really

web and never before has that really been possible with such a small budget

been possible with such a small budget

been possible with such a small budget and so few tools do you still think that

and so few tools do you still think that

and so few tools do you still think that there’s something to be said for the

there’s something to be said for the

there’s something to be said for the trust that the mainstream media enjoys

trust that the mainstream media enjoys

trust that the mainstream media enjoys because so much investment goes into

because so much investment goes into

because so much investment goes into their content certainly I think that you

their content certainly I think that you

their content certainly I think that you know the big deal is is that when we

know the big deal is is that when we

know the big deal is is that when we have something like a lot of investment

have something like a lot of investment

have something like a lot of investment going to something it looks really

going to something it looks really

going to something it looks really professional they have the newscasters

professional they have the newscasters

professional they have the newscasters or whatever it happens to be we’re in a

or whatever it happens to be we’re in a

or whatever it happens to be we’re in a situation where we kind of give them the

situation where we kind of give them the

situation where we kind of give them the benefit of the doubt at first but if we

benefit of the doubt at first but if we

benefit of the doubt at first but if we don’t get the authenticity that we want

don’t get the authenticity that we want

don’t get the authenticity that we want out of these people if we feel like

out of these people if we feel like

out of these people if we feel like we’re missing part of the story then

we’re missing part of the story then

we’re missing part of the story then we’re going to go to the channels where

we’re going to go to the channels where

we’re going to go to the channels where people are being authentic we’re going

people are being authentic we’re going

people are being authentic we’re going to go where people are giving you the

to go where people are giving you the

to go where people are giving you the raw information and that’s what’s

raw information and that’s what’s

raw information and that’s what’s happening more and more because we’re

happening more and more because we’re

happening more and more because we’re not getting coverage that we want we’re

not getting coverage that we want we’re

not getting coverage that we want we’re not getting the news that we want and so

not getting the news that we want and so

not getting the news that we want and so that’s why all these alternative

that’s why all these alternative

that’s why all these alternative channels are getting more and more

channels are getting more and more

channels are getting more and more popular amongst other reasons so for

popular amongst other reasons so for

popular amongst other reasons so for companies and brands looking to leverage

companies and brands looking to leverage

companies and brands looking to leverage these channels to build trust do you

these channels to build trust do you

these channels to build trust do you think they’re limited in the trust they

think they’re limited in the trust they

think they’re limited in the trust they can build with consumers I think if you

can build with consumers I think if you

can build with consumers I think if you start off and you start off with a

start off and you start off with a

start off and you start off with a company the potential is still there but

company the potential is still there but

company the potential is still there but it’s all about the way in which you

it’s all about the way in which you

it’s all about the way in which you decide to communicate

decide to communicate

decide to communicate the more you are the mouthpiece for a

the more you are the mouthpiece for a

the more you are the mouthpiece for a company the less effective you are so

company the less effective you are so

company the less effective you are so the more self-interested you seem to be

the more self-interested you seem to be

the more self-interested you seem to be the more it’s going to take time for

the more it’s going to take time for

the more it’s going to take time for people to trust you and the cases of

people to trust you and the cases of

people to trust you and the cases of people that you know work with companies

people that you know work with companies

people that you know work with companies obviously there is a certain amount of

obviously there is a certain amount of

obviously there is a certain amount of self-interest so there is a limitation

self-interest so there is a limitation

self-interest so there is a limitation to how effective they can be but I also

to how effective they can be but I also

to how effective they can be but I also think that they can transcend it and

think that they can transcend it and

think that they can transcend it and we’ve seen a lot of cases of that on the

we’ve seen a lot of cases of that on the

we’ve seen a lot of cases of that on the web all running on a personal level who

web all running on a personal level who

web all running on a personal level who are you more likely to trust an

are you more likely to trust an

are you more likely to trust an individual blogger an established

individual blogger an established

individual blogger an established journalist or does a big campaign still

journalist or does a big campaign still

journalist or does a big campaign still have an effect on the way you see things

have an effect on the way you see things

have an effect on the way you see things the more that we go into the into the

the more that we go into the into the

the more that we go into the into the sort of the back channels the more we

sort of the back channels the more we

sort of the back channels the more we see the journalists when they’re in

see the journalists when they’re in

see the journalists when they’re in their off time the more that we see what

their off time the more that we see what

their off time the more that we see what the big campaigns are built around if we

the big campaigns are built around if we

the big campaigns are built around if we know the people that make the media if

know the people that make the media if

know the people that make the media if we know the people that are the

we know the people that are the

we know the people that are the journalists and we know the people that

journalists and we know the people that

journalists and we know the people that are doing the big multi-million dollar

are doing the big multi-million dollar

are doing the big multi-million dollar campaigns we start to realize that these

campaigns we start to realize that these

campaigns we start to realize that these people are not special anymore they’re

people are not special anymore they’re

people are not special anymore they’re just regular people they’re not smarter

just regular people they’re not smarter

just regular people they’re not smarter than us they’re just the same way that

than us they’re just the same way that

than us they’re just the same way that we are except they have this extra gate

we are except they have this extra gate

we are except they have this extra gate that they’ve been through and for that

that they’ve been through and for that

that they’ve been through and for that reason i prefer the person who’s up

reason i prefer the person who’s up

reason i prefer the person who’s up front and who just tells it to me like a

front and who just tells it to me like a

front and who just tells it to me like a regular person in the first place all

regular person in the first place all

regular person in the first place all right well thanks for your time Julian

right well thanks for your time Julian

right well thanks for your time Julian thanks for having me

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