Prime Minister Pierre Elliot Trudeau had a flamboyant persona but he was also a
a flamboyant persona but he was also a
a flamboyant persona but he was also a fiercely disciplined politician hi I’m
fiercely disciplined politician hi I’m
fiercely disciplined politician hi I’m Alex LaDuke and welcome to watchmojo.com
Alex LaDuke and welcome to watchmojo.com
Alex LaDuke and welcome to watchmojo.com today we’re speaking with biographer
today we’re speaking with biographer
today we’re speaking with biographer John English to learn more about
John English to learn more about
John English to learn more about Trudeau’s life behind the scenes and how
Trudeau’s life behind the scenes and how
Trudeau’s life behind the scenes and how it affected his politics
it affected his politics
it affected his politics what were his biggest personal
what were his biggest personal
what were his biggest personal frustrations are any flaws he was never
frustrations are any flaws he was never
frustrations are any flaws he was never able to overcome
able to overcome
able to overcome he was very trouble with the death of
he was very trouble with the death of
he was very trouble with the death of Laporte apparel apart was assassinated
Laporte apparel apart was assassinated
Laporte apparel apart was assassinated he was with Margaret Trudeau they were
he was with Margaret Trudeau they were
he was with Margaret Trudeau they were not even married but she was staying
not even married but she was staying
not even married but she was staying with about 24 Sussex she saw him just
with about 24 Sussex she saw him just
with about 24 Sussex she saw him just fall apart and fall into tears but those
fall apart and fall into tears but those
fall apart and fall into tears but those who worked with him said that he did
who worked with him said that he did
who worked with him said that he did seem very stealing and he seemed to have
seem very stealing and he seemed to have
seem very stealing and he seemed to have that capacity he was being challenged
that capacity he was being challenged
that capacity he was being challenged many love challenges and he was going to
many love challenges and he was going to
many love challenges and he was going to stand up with them hence to just watch
stand up with them hence to just watch
stand up with them hence to just watch me in response to the CDC reporter it’s
me in response to the CDC reporter it’s
me in response to the CDC reporter it’s more important to keep law and order in
more important to keep law and order in
more important to keep law and order in the society than to be worried about
the society than to be worried about
the society than to be worried about weak-kneed people who don’t like the
weak-kneed people who don’t like the
weak-kneed people who don’t like the looks of Eddie no cost at any cost how
looks of Eddie no cost at any cost how
looks of Eddie no cost at any cost how far would you go with that how far would
far would you go with that how far would
far would you go with that how far would you extend that just watch me
you extend that just watch me
you extend that just watch me think in terms of weakness probably his
think in terms of weakness probably his
think in terms of weakness probably his relationships with women he couldn’t
relationships with women he couldn’t
relationships with women he couldn’t seem to establish the kind of intimacy
seem to establish the kind of intimacy
seem to establish the kind of intimacy that will lead to the partnership which
that will lead to the partnership which
that will lead to the partnership which represents marriage so in his later life
represents marriage so in his later life
represents marriage so in his later life he often described himself as unhappy
he often described himself as unhappy
he often described himself as unhappy the other thing he was unhappy with was
the other thing he was unhappy with was
the other thing he was unhappy with was the direction of Canada after he left
the direction of Canada after he left
the direction of Canada after he left office that’s probably true of every
office that’s probably true of every
office that’s probably true of every Prime Minister but he was unhappy that
Prime Minister but he was unhappy that
Prime Minister but he was unhappy that the government of Quebec Hunter Prasad
the government of Quebec Hunter Prasad
the government of Quebec Hunter Prasad particularly and Brian Mulroney went
particularly and Brian Mulroney went
particularly and Brian Mulroney went towards opening up as he called it the
towards opening up as he called it the
towards opening up as he called it the Constitution what surprised you most in
Constitution what surprised you most in
Constitution what surprised you most in all of your research and what’s going to
all of your research and what’s going to
all of your research and what’s going to surprise readers well how disciplined
surprise readers well how disciplined
surprise readers well how disciplined and hardworking he was as a prime
and hardworking he was as a prime
and hardworking he was as a prime minister you had the umber scheme as a
minister you had the umber scheme as a
minister you had the umber scheme as a bit of a Playboy and there were periods
bit of a Playboy and there were periods
bit of a Playboy and there were periods where he took off you know to a disco in
where he took off you know to a disco in
where he took off you know to a disco in New York you’re responsible ignored the
New York you’re responsible ignored the
New York you’re responsible ignored the party but in reality this is a very
party but in reality this is a very
party but in reality this is a very serious hardworking and smart politician
serious hardworking and smart politician
serious hardworking and smart politician they knew when to go for the jugular he
they knew when to go for the jugular he
they knew when to go for the jugular he was a pretty tough the other thing I
was a pretty tough the other thing I
was a pretty tough the other thing I think is his private life and the
think is his private life and the
think is his private life and the intersection of his private life in his
intersection of his private life in his
intersection of his private life in his public life he didn’t have an election
public life he didn’t have an election
public life he didn’t have an election in 1977 what he would have won
in 1977 what he would have won
in 1977 what he would have won overwhelmingly because of his marriage
overwhelmingly because of his marriage
overwhelmingly because of his marriage breakdown that’s why you did not write
breakdown that’s why you did not write
breakdown that’s why you did not write in your book about an affair with
in your book about an affair with
in your book about an affair with Jordan’s King Hussein it was written in
Jordan’s King Hussein it was written in
Jordan’s King Hussein it was written in there I never had an affair with her
there I never had an affair with her
there I never had an affair with her Jordan’s King Hussein similarly I think
Jordan’s King Hussein similarly I think
Jordan’s King Hussein similarly I think his closest confidants were his female
his closest confidants were his female
his closest confidants were his female companions and they tended in the 80s to
companions and they tended in the 80s to
companions and they tended in the 80s to be Eddie Reagan and Aunty Thatcher
be Eddie Reagan and Aunty Thatcher
be Eddie Reagan and Aunty Thatcher and I think it made him more determined
and I think it made him more determined
and I think it made him more determined to be so those instincts would’ve been
to be so those instincts would’ve been
to be so those instincts would’ve been in that direction in any event much was
in that direction in any event much was
in that direction in any event much was said when you published the first book
said when you published the first book
said when you published the first book about Trudeau’s relationship with
about Trudeau’s relationship with
about Trudeau’s relationship with Catholicism how did his religion affect
Catholicism how did his religion affect
Catholicism how did his religion affect him when he was prime minister and in
him when he was prime minister and in
him when he was prime minister and in his later years he remains what we would
his later years he remains what we would
his later years he remains what we would call a liberal Catholic and a political
call a liberal Catholic and a political
call a liberal Catholic and a political Catholic like Kennedy that although I am
Catholic like Kennedy that although I am
Catholic like Kennedy that although I am a believer I’m saying what they were
a believer I’m saying what they were
a believer I’m saying what they were saying and I am a Catholic that will not
saying and I am a Catholic that will not
saying and I am a Catholic that will not affect my approach to public policy
affect my approach to public policy
affect my approach to public policy where I’m going to be the prime minister
where I’m going to be the prime minister
where I’m going to be the prime minister of all Canadians aren’t simply Roman
of all Canadians aren’t simply Roman
of all Canadians aren’t simply Roman Catholic Canadians he was angry with the
Catholic Canadians he was angry with the
Catholic Canadians he was angry with the church for talking about about economic
church for talking about about economic
church for talking about about economic policy in the eighties when they were
policy in the eighties when they were
policy in the eighties when they were very critical of his policies we tended
very critical of his policies we tended
very critical of his policies we tended in some ways to be a little bit
in some ways to be a little bit
in some ways to be a little bit conservative but he he went to church
conservative but he he went to church
conservative but he he went to church and after he left office he took part in
and after he left office he took part in
and after he left office he took part in retreats and lost his faith it seems
retreats and lost his faith it seems
retreats and lost his faith it seems when Michelle died his father often
when Michelle died his father often
when Michelle died his father often would I think but then of course he died
would I think but then of course he died
would I think but then of course he died a Catholic in a ceremony that was fully
a Catholic in a ceremony that was fully
a Catholic in a ceremony that was fully within tradition of the Roman Catholic
within tradition of the Roman Catholic
within tradition of the Roman Catholic Church well thanks very much for your
Church well thanks very much for your
Church well thanks very much for your time thank you very much for having me
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