
this criminal organization has risen in power in recent years hi I’m Rebecca
power in recent years hi I’m Rebecca
power in recent years hi I’m Rebecca Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and
Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and
Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and today we’re speaking with journalist
today we’re speaking with journalist
today we’re speaking with journalist Jerry Langton about Mexican drug cartels
Jerry Langton about Mexican drug cartels
Jerry Langton about Mexican drug cartels and his book gangland what are the
and his book gangland what are the
and his book gangland what are the characteristics of a Mexican drug cartel
characteristics of a Mexican drug cartel
characteristics of a Mexican drug cartel there were always gangs in in in Mexico
there were always gangs in in in Mexico
there were always gangs in in in Mexico and they were never very powerful for
and they were never very powerful for
and they were never very powerful for decades they worked for the Colombians
decades they worked for the Colombians
decades they worked for the Colombians but then they got the idea that they
but then they got the idea that they
but then they got the idea that they could make more money selling the drugs
could make more money selling the drugs
could make more money selling the drugs than just ferrying them into North
than just ferrying them into North
than just ferrying them into North America and they took over and they have
America and they took over and they have
America and they took over and they have been unbelievably efficient from
been unbelievably efficient from
been unbelievably efficient from successful and brutally so in a large
successful and brutally so in a large
successful and brutally so in a large part because of the corruption of the
part because of the corruption of the
part because of the corruption of the Mexican government not only does that
Mexican government not only does that
Mexican government not only does that aid them in their tasks but it also
aid them in their tasks but it also
aid them in their tasks but it also keeps the public on their side for a
keeps the public on their side for a
keeps the public on their side for a great degree how did they first start to
great degree how did they first start to
great degree how did they first start to gain traction they gained traction when
gain traction they gained traction when
gain traction they gained traction when the Colombians sort of went down I mean
the Colombians sort of went down I mean
the Colombians sort of went down I mean everybody remembers the DEA and its
everybody remembers the DEA and its
everybody remembers the DEA and its allies pursuing Pablo Escobar finally
allies pursuing Pablo Escobar finally
allies pursuing Pablo Escobar finally killing him as the government says South
killing him as the government says South
killing him as the government says South America got serious about chasing down
America got serious about chasing down
America got serious about chasing down the cartels the focus moved to Mexico
the cartels the focus moved to Mexico
the cartels the focus moved to Mexico and the Mexicans tended to be more
and the Mexicans tended to be more
and the Mexicans tended to be more brutal and better marketers they sold
brutal and better marketers they sold
brutal and better marketers they sold for lower prices I mean there’s a
for lower prices I mean there’s a
for lower prices I mean there’s a recording of Italian mafia leaders
recording of Italian mafia leaders
recording of Italian mafia leaders saying that you know time has never been
saying that you know time has never been
saying that you know time has never been so good for them now that the Mafia’s
so good for them now that the Mafia’s
so good for them now that the Mafia’s are selling for a price if the
are selling for a price if the
are selling for a price if the Colombians could never match now you’ve
Colombians could never match now you’ve
Colombians could never match now you’ve mentioned drugs quite a bit what kind of
mentioned drugs quite a bit what kind of
mentioned drugs quite a bit what kind of crimes are they most commonly involved
crimes are they most commonly involved
crimes are they most commonly involved in they fight a lot you know in the last
in they fight a lot you know in the last
in they fight a lot you know in the last four years there have been about 45,000
four years there have been about 45,000
four years there have been about 45,000 deaths attributed to the Mexican drug
deaths attributed to the Mexican drug
deaths attributed to the Mexican drug war but ten more thousand people missing
war but ten more thousand people missing
war but ten more thousand people missing and at least a quarter million displaced
and at least a quarter million displaced
and at least a quarter million displaced from their homes and they use a lot of
from their homes and they use a lot of
from their homes and they use a lot of methods that we would consider
methods that we would consider
methods that we would consider terroristic bombs rocket-propelled
terroristic bombs rocket-propelled
terroristic bombs rocket-propelled grenades targeting civilians even more
grenades targeting civilians even more
grenades targeting civilians even more sort of psychologically terroristic
sort of psychologically terroristic
sort of psychologically terroristic concepts people have been hung from
concepts people have been hung from
concepts people have been hung from traffic bridges at rush hour
traffic bridges at rush hour
traffic bridges at rush hour coolers full of heads have been
coolers full of heads have been
coolers full of heads have been delivered to police stations that sort
delivered to police stations that sort
delivered to police stations that sort of thing they’re really trying to get
of thing they’re really trying to get
of thing they’re really trying to get into the hearts and minds of people how
into the hearts and minds of people how
into the hearts and minds of people how would you say they affect day-to-day
would you say they affect day-to-day
would you say they affect day-to-day life in Mexico to a huge degree and it
life in Mexico to a huge degree and it
life in Mexico to a huge degree and it depends on where in Mexico you are in
depends on where in Mexico you are in
depends on where in Mexico you are in northern Mexico largely it’s the
northern Mexico largely it’s the
northern Mexico largely it’s the violence like I say thousands of people
violence like I say thousands of people
violence like I say thousands of people are being killed
are being killed
are being killed over 3,000 murdered in Juarez last year
over 3,000 murdered in Juarez last year
over 3,000 murdered in Juarez last year alone but in the south it’s even bigger
alone but in the south it’s even bigger
alone but in the south it’s even bigger than that a lot of the people in the
than that a lot of the people in the
than that a lot of the people in the South they feel very alienated from the
South they feel very alienated from the
South they feel very alienated from the central government in Mexico City
central government in Mexico City
central government in Mexico City they’re poor Dauphin indigenous people
they’re poor Dauphin indigenous people
they’re poor Dauphin indigenous people who don’t speak Spanish don’t have
who don’t speak Spanish don’t have
who don’t speak Spanish don’t have running water or electricity
running water or electricity
running water or electricity and when a cartel like la familia
and when a cartel like la familia
and when a cartel like la familia provides them with education with health
provides them with education with health
provides them with education with health care it really makes a difference and it
care it really makes a difference and it
care it really makes a difference and it really can sway their allegiance and
really can sway their allegiance and
really can sway their allegiance and what about in the United States well in
what about in the United States well in
what about in the United States well in the United States the big difference is
the United States the big difference is
the United States the big difference is the volume of drugs that are available
the volume of drugs that are available
the volume of drugs that are available there’s very little violence in the u.s.
there’s very little violence in the u.s.
there’s very little violence in the u.s. right now related to the cartels because
right now related to the cartels because
right now related to the cartels because the cartels know better than to pick a
the cartels know better than to pick a
the cartels know better than to pick a fight with the US law enforcement or the
fight with the US law enforcement or the
fight with the US law enforcement or the military what violence there has been in
military what violence there has been in
military what violence there has been in the US has been limited mainly to
the US has been limited mainly to
the US has been limited mainly to illegal immigrants who are involved with
illegal immigrants who are involved with
illegal immigrants who are involved with the drug trade either not paying their
the drug trade either not paying their
the drug trade either not paying their bills not doing what they’re told there
bills not doing what they’re told there
bills not doing what they’re told there has been a spark of violence in Canada
has been a spark of violence in Canada
has been a spark of violence in Canada particularly British Columbia the
particularly British Columbia the
particularly British Columbia the marijuana they’re grown there is so
marijuana they’re grown there is so
marijuana they’re grown there is so potent that has attracted the cartels
potent that has attracted the cartels
potent that has attracted the cartels and they’re trading stimulant drugs
and they’re trading stimulant drugs
and they’re trading stimulant drugs cocaine and meth for marijuana which is
cocaine and meth for marijuana which is
cocaine and meth for marijuana which is bringing these kinds of drugs and their
bringing these kinds of drugs and their
bringing these kinds of drugs and their after-effects and the violence they
after-effects and the violence they
after-effects and the violence they caused to communities that had never
caused to communities that had never
caused to communities that had never seen that sort of thing before what kind
seen that sort of thing before what kind
seen that sort of thing before what kind of research did you have to undertake to
of research did you have to undertake to
of research did you have to undertake to get this book written a lot it was it
get this book written a lot it was it
get this book written a lot it was it was it was really intense but one of the
was it was really intense but one of the
was it was really intense but one of the things that has happened in Mexico is
things that has happened in Mexico is
things that has happened in Mexico is that the journalists from Mexico have
that the journalists from Mexico have
that the journalists from Mexico have been hunted and threatened and kidnapped
been hunted and threatened and kidnapped
been hunted and threatened and kidnapped and in some cases murdered and a lot of
and in some cases murdered and a lot of
and in some cases murdered and a lot of the events are not reported locally as a
the events are not reported locally as a
the events are not reported locally as a matter of fact the newspaper
matter of fact the newspaper
matter of fact the newspaper leading daily newspaper in Huaraz once
leading daily newspaper in Huaraz once
leading daily newspaper in Huaraz once dedicated its entire front page to an
dedicated its entire front page to an
dedicated its entire front page to an open letter to the cartels saying please
open letter to the cartels saying please
open letter to the cartels saying please don’t kill our people anymore just tell
don’t kill our people anymore just tell
don’t kill our people anymore just tell us what we’re allowed to write but the
us what we’re allowed to write but the
us what we’re allowed to write but the flip side of that is that foreign
flip side of that is that foreign
flip side of that is that foreign journalists particularly from North
journalists particularly from North
journalists particularly from North America are not targeted people from CNN
America are not targeted people from CNN
America are not targeted people from CNN and other you know big organizations can
and other you know big organizations can
and other you know big organizations can go down there with almost you know a
go down there with almost you know a
go down there with almost you know a level of impunity and a large part of
level of impunity and a large part of
level of impunity and a large part of that is because the cartels I believe in
that is because the cartels I believe in
that is because the cartels I believe in a large part that they are freedom
a large part that they are freedom
a large part that they are freedom fighters that they’re trying to
fighters that they’re trying to
fighters that they’re trying to overthrow a
overthrow a
overthrow a bad regime and that if they get enough
bad regime and that if they get enough
bad regime and that if they get enough exposure in Western media perhaps they
exposure in Western media perhaps they
exposure in Western media perhaps they may get the sympathies of the West thank
may get the sympathies of the West thank
may get the sympathies of the West thank you very much thank you
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