el salvador in the 1980s was embroiled in a brutal civil war a war which
in a brutal civil war a war which
in a brutal civil war a war which resulted in the vicious torture of
resulted in the vicious torture of
resulted in the vicious torture of countless prisoners hi I’m Rebecca
countless prisoners hi I’m Rebecca
countless prisoners hi I’m Rebecca Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and
Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and
Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and today we’re speaking with author Jol’s
today we’re speaking with author Jol’s
today we’re speaking with author Jol’s blunt whose novel breaking Lorca
blunt whose novel breaking Lorca
blunt whose novel breaking Lorca documents the emotional toll this
documents the emotional toll this
documents the emotional toll this torture takes on both detainee and
torture takes on both detainee and
torture takes on both detainee and soldier alike first of all can use a
soldier alike first of all can use a
soldier alike first of all can use a brief synopsis of breaking Lorca
brief synopsis of breaking Lorca
brief synopsis of breaking Lorca breaking loka tells the story of a young
breaking loka tells the story of a young
breaking loka tells the story of a young soldier in 1980s El Salvador who is
soldier in 1980s El Salvador who is
soldier in 1980s El Salvador who is basically dragooned into working for a
basically dragooned into working for a
basically dragooned into working for a clandestine a death squad torture squad
clandestine a death squad torture squad
clandestine a death squad torture squad who take captured detainees and
who take captured detainees and
who take captured detainees and brutalize them ostensibly for instance
brutalize them ostensibly for instance
brutalize them ostensibly for instance for information victor is a very
for information victor is a very
for information victor is a very cowardly soldier by his own estimation
cowardly soldier by his own estimation
cowardly soldier by his own estimation and by the estimation of many other
and by the estimation of many other
and by the estimation of many other people and he’s terrified by the
people and he’s terrified by the
people and he’s terrified by the situation he’s in along the way one of
situation he’s in along the way one of
situation he’s in along the way one of the prisoners they detained as he is a
the prisoners they detained as he is a
the prisoners they detained as he is a young woman and she is so brave and
young woman and she is so brave and
young woman and she is so brave and contrasted Victor’s cowardice that he’s
contrasted Victor’s cowardice that he’s
contrasted Victor’s cowardice that he’s tremendously moved by her and horrified
tremendously moved by her and horrified
tremendously moved by her and horrified by the brutality that he’s basically
by the brutality that he’s basically
by the brutality that he’s basically forced to take part in and then the the
forced to take part in and then the the
forced to take part in and then the the book skips forward a couple of years a
book skips forward a couple of years a
book skips forward a couple of years a totally different setting to 1980s New
totally different setting to 1980s New
totally different setting to 1980s New York where they have both managed to
York where they have both managed to
York where they have both managed to leave the war and
leave the war and
leave the war and in the second half of the book Victor
in the second half of the book Victor
in the second half of the book Victor tries some extent to make up for his
tries some extent to make up for his
tries some extent to make up for his horrible horrible history and whether or
horrible horrible history and whether or
horrible horrible history and whether or not he succeeds as I guess up to the
not he succeeds as I guess up to the
not he succeeds as I guess up to the reader good job and where did the
reader good job and where did the
reader good job and where did the inspiration for this novel derive I read
inspiration for this novel derive I read
inspiration for this novel derive I read in the New York Times about an institute
in the New York Times about an institute
in the New York Times about an institute in Minneapolis that was devoted to
in Minneapolis that was devoted to
in Minneapolis that was devoted to providing therapy for victims of torture
providing therapy for victims of torture
providing therapy for victims of torture and I thought wow that must be how does
and I thought wow that must be how does
and I thought wow that must be how does such people survive and how what would
such people survive and how what would
such people survive and how what would recovery from something like that be
recovery from something like that be
recovery from something like that be that look like what was the research
that look like what was the research
that look like what was the research like for something like this because the
like for something like this because the
like for something like this because the torture scenes are so vivid I read
torture scenes are so vivid I read
torture scenes are so vivid I read everything all the books I could on El
everything all the books I could on El
everything all the books I could on El Salvador there weren’t many there about
Salvador there weren’t many there about
Salvador there weren’t many there about eight at the time and I read as many
eight at the time and I read as many
eight at the time and I read as many books as I could about Central American
books as I could about Central American
books as I could about Central American politics at the time and particularly
politics at the time and particularly
politics at the time and particularly American foreign policy as it was down
American foreign policy as it was down
American foreign policy as it was down there and more specifically about
there and more specifically about
there and more specifically about torture the crimes against humanity that
torture the crimes against humanity that
torture the crimes against humanity that were committed down there and how that
were committed down there and how that
were committed down there and how that came to be and develop my story out of
came to be and develop my story out of
came to be and develop my story out of all that research now is this a
all that research now is this a
all that research now is this a historically accurate depiction of el
historically accurate depiction of el
historically accurate depiction of el celular at the time yes absolutely I
celular at the time yes absolutely I
celular at the time yes absolutely I don’t um I mean horrible as the stuff is
don’t um I mean horrible as the stuff is
don’t um I mean horrible as the stuff is that I tell in the in the book I left
that I tell in the in the book I left
that I tell in the in the book I left out the very worst of it because it
out the very worst of it because it
out the very worst of it because it truly nobody would be able to to read it
truly nobody would be able to to read it
truly nobody would be able to to read it would you say that this story translates
would you say that this story translates
would you say that this story translates to different times in different
to different times in different
to different times in different locations the paradigm remains the same
locations the paradigm remains the same
locations the paradigm remains the same people get tortured usually it’s usually
people get tortured usually it’s usually
people get tortured usually it’s usually not in prisons it’s usually in jails
not in prisons it’s usually in jails
not in prisons it’s usually in jails particularly when nobody knows that
particularly when nobody knows that
particularly when nobody knows that they’re being held or where they’re
they’re being held or where they’re
they’re being held or where they’re being held in other words it’s exactly
being held in other words it’s exactly
being held in other words it’s exactly like a place like Guantanamo or the
like a place like Guantanamo or the
like a place like Guantanamo or the CIA’s black sites as soon as you set up
CIA’s black sites as soon as you set up
CIA’s black sites as soon as you set up things like the jail in the book or a
things like the jail in the book or a
things like the jail in the book or a place like Guantanamo or black sites
place like Guantanamo or black sites
place like Guantanamo or black sites know that that people are going to be
know that that people are going to be
know that that people are going to be tortured that’s that’s what such places
tortured that’s that’s what such places
tortured that’s that’s what such places are for and it’s not about getting
are for and it’s not about getting
are for and it’s not about getting information
information
information it’s about brutalizing a population to
it’s about brutalizing a population to
it’s about brutalizing a population to terrorize thank you very much thank you
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