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How Billionaires Ruin Democracy


she has been called Canada’s Michael

she has been called Canada’s Michael Moore for her opposition to the

Moore for her opposition to the

Moore for her opposition to the establishment hi I’m Rebecca Brayton and

establishment hi I’m Rebecca Brayton and

establishment hi I’m Rebecca Brayton and welcome to watchmojo.com and today we’re

welcome to watchmojo.com and today we’re

welcome to watchmojo.com and today we’re speaking with journalist Linda mcquaig

speaking with journalist Linda mcquaig

speaking with journalist Linda mcquaig about her book the trouble with

about her book the trouble with

about her book the trouble with billionaires in the opening pages of

billionaires in the opening pages of

billionaires in the opening pages of your book you put into sharp focus just

your book you put into sharp focus just

your book you put into sharp focus just how much a billion dollars really is

how much a billion dollars really is

how much a billion dollars really is would you mind elaborating on this

would you mind elaborating on this

would you mind elaborating on this forest if you were to be given a dollar

forest if you were to be given a dollar

forest if you were to be given a dollar every second which is quite nice then

every second which is quite nice then

every second which is quite nice then after 60 seconds you’d have sixty

after 60 seconds you’d have sixty

after 60 seconds you’d have sixty dollars after an hour you’d have three

dollars after an hour you’d have three

dollars after an hour you’d have three thousand six hundred dollars and after

thousand six hundred dollars and after

thousand six hundred dollars and after 12 days at that rate all day and all

12 days at that rate all day and all

12 days at that rate all day and all night you’d have a million dollars

night you’d have a million dollars

night you’d have a million dollars twelve days but in order to become a

twelve days but in order to become a

twelve days but in order to become a billionaire you’d have to keep that rate

billionaire you’d have to keep that rate

billionaire you’d have to keep that rate up not just for 12 days but for 32 years

up not just for 12 days but for 32 years

up not just for 12 days but for 32 years so the book is called the trouble with

so the book is called the trouble with

so the book is called the trouble with billionaires what is the trouble with

billionaires what is the trouble with

billionaires what is the trouble with billionaires what’s happened is in the

billionaires what’s happened is in the

billionaires what’s happened is in the last few decades virtually all the

last few decades virtually all the

last few decades virtually all the income growth has gone to the top what

income growth has gone to the top what

income growth has gone to the top what problems stem from having super rich in

problems stem from having super rich in

problems stem from having super rich in society probably the most basic problem

society probably the most basic problem

society probably the most basic problem is it undermines democracy when you have

is it undermines democracy when you have

is it undermines democracy when you have a class people with that much economic

a class people with that much economic

a class people with that much economic clout that translates into enormous

clout that translates into enormous

clout that translates into enormous political clout in fact in terms of open

political clout in fact in terms of open

political clout in fact in terms of open mobility the United States has one of

mobility the United States has one of

mobility the United States has one of the worst rates of upward mobility among

the worst rates of upward mobility among

the worst rates of upward mobility among the developed nations the truth is you

the developed nations the truth is you

the developed nations the truth is you know if you want to get ahead if you

know if you want to get ahead if you

know if you want to get ahead if you want your children to have a chance at

want your children to have a chance at

want your children to have a chance at improving themselves in love you much

improving themselves in love you much

improving themselves in love you much better off to live in a Scandinavian

better off to live in a Scandinavian

better off to live in a Scandinavian country you know if you want to live the

country you know if you want to live the

country you know if you want to live the American dream move to sweden it turns

American dream move to sweden it turns

American dream move to sweden it turns out how is the problem solved I think

out how is the problem solved I think

out how is the problem solved I think one idea that really kind of captures

one idea that really kind of captures

one idea that really kind of captures sort of what what is possible is the

sort of what what is possible is the

sort of what what is possible is the idea of introducing an inheritance tax

idea of introducing an inheritance tax

idea of introducing an inheritance tax and it would only click in after someone

and it would only click in after someone

and it would only click in after someone had received 1.5 million dollars you

had received 1.5 million dollars you

had received 1.5 million dollars you could receive 1.5 million an inheritance

could receive 1.5 million an inheritance

could receive 1.5 million an inheritance tax free but above that you pay a small

tax free but above that you pay a small

tax free but above that you pay a small gradually rising tax would be enough

gradually rising tax would be enough

gradually rising tax would be enough revenue from that to fund educational

revenue from that to fund educational

revenue from that to fund educational trust funds for every Canadian child so

trust funds for every Canadian child so

trust funds for every Canadian child so that every Canadian child when they turn

that every Canadian child when they turn

that every Canadian child when they turn 16 would have sixteen thousand dollars

16 would have sixteen thousand dollars

16 would have sixteen thousand dollars deposit into this trust fund to be as

deposit into this trust fund to be as

deposit into this trust fund to be as exclusively for education or training

exclusively for education or training

exclusively for education or training think of what that would do to change

think of what that would do to change

think of what that would do to change the lives of Canadian Canadian young

the lives of Canadian Canadian young

the lives of Canadian Canadian young people how has wealth distribution

people how has wealth distribution

people how has wealth distribution changed in recent years the simple truth

changed in recent years the simple truth

changed in recent years the simple truth is we were paying our top people 10 20

is we were paying our top people 10 20

is we were paying our top people 10 20 30 times often more than they were

30 times often more than they were

30 times often more than they were getting decades ago then there are

getting decades ago then there are

getting decades ago then there are counterparts we’re getting decades but

counterparts we’re getting decades but

counterparts we’re getting decades but we’re not getting any improved

we’re not getting any improved

we’re not getting any improved performance I mean that that’s the

performance I mean that that’s the

performance I mean that that’s the striking pin and you actually can

striking pin and you actually can

striking pin and you actually can measure that quick quite easily i mean

measure that quick quite easily i mean

measure that quick quite easily i mean you know back in the 1970s Hank Aaron

you know back in the 1970s Hank Aaron

you know back in the 1970s Hank Aaron was the top baseball player and he made

was the top baseball player and he made

was the top baseball player and he made two hundred thousand which was the top

two hundred thousand which was the top

two hundred thousand which was the top baseball salary today the talk baseball

baseball salary today the talk baseball

baseball salary today the talk baseball player is Alex Rodriguez makes 28

player is Alex Rodriguez makes 28

player is Alex Rodriguez makes 28 million a year even if you adjust for

million a year even if you adjust for

million a year even if you adjust for inflation Rodriguez is making more than

inflation Rodriguez is making more than

inflation Rodriguez is making more than 30 times more than Hank Aaron mate he’s

30 times more than Hank Aaron mate he’s

30 times more than Hank Aaron mate he’s got 30 times the incentive but he’s not

got 30 times the incentive but he’s not

got 30 times the incentive but he’s not performing 30 times better in fact

performing 30 times better in fact

performing 30 times better in fact there’s no evidence he’s performing any

there’s no evidence he’s performing any

there’s no evidence he’s performing any better at all explain to us the

better at all explain to us the

better at all explain to us the discrepancy in taxes paid by the

discrepancy in taxes paid by the

discrepancy in taxes paid by the ultra-rich today versus yesterday in the

ultra-rich today versus yesterday in the

ultra-rich today versus yesterday in the pre-1980 period we had marginal tax

pre-1980 period we had marginal tax

pre-1980 period we had marginal tax rates both in Canada and the United

rates both in Canada and the United

rates both in Canada and the United States it went as high as eighty percent

States it went as high as eighty percent

States it went as high as eighty percent in fact for some years they were ninety

in fact for some years they were ninety

in fact for some years they were ninety percent now the top marginal tax rate in

percent now the top marginal tax rate in

percent now the top marginal tax rate in Canada is forty six percent so it’s like

Canada is forty six percent so it’s like

Canada is forty six percent so it’s like half what it was then one idea i’ve seen

half what it was then one idea i’ve seen

half what it was then one idea i’ve seen you discuss on this issue is the idea of

you discuss on this issue is the idea of

you discuss on this issue is the idea of philanthropy could you tell us you take

philanthropy could you tell us you take

philanthropy could you tell us you take on this the question is should the rich

on this the question is should the rich

on this the question is should the rich give money to the tax system or should

give money to the tax system or should

give money to the tax system or should they give it through philanthropy is it

they give it through philanthropy is it

they give it through philanthropy is it if they give it through philanthropy

if they give it through philanthropy

if they give it through philanthropy they call all the shots they determine

they call all the shots they determine

they call all the shots they determine where the money goes and they determined

where the money goes and they determined

where the money goes and they determined to a large extent how the money is spent

to a large extent how the money is spent

to a large extent how the money is spent what the priorities will be if we tax

what the priorities will be if we tax

what the priorities will be if we tax them and that money is collected then

them and that money is collected then

them and that money is collected then put into the public part then the

put into the public part then the

put into the public part then the Democratic electorate decides how that

Democratic electorate decides how that

Democratic electorate decides how that money is going to be spent and important

money is going to be spent and important

money is going to be spent and important democracy which we are that’s very

democracy which we are that’s very

democracy which we are that’s very important thank you very much thank you

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