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HipMojo 4B – Internet Company of Year 2002-2007


so welcome back to hit module in the

so welcome back to hit module in the first segment we looked at the companies

first segment we looked at the companies

first segment we looked at the companies who were most successful dating from

who were most successful dating from

who were most successful dating from 1994 2001 of course with the Nasdaq

1994 2001 of course with the Nasdaq

1994 2001 of course with the Nasdaq imploding in march of 2000 around 2002

imploding in march of 2000 around 2002

imploding in march of 2000 around 2002 was a pretty sort of nuclear winter kind

was a pretty sort of nuclear winter kind

was a pretty sort of nuclear winter kind of era in the online landscape but

of era in the online landscape but

of era in the online landscape but rising from the ashes was none other

rising from the ashes was none other

rising from the ashes was none other than the company that we chose for

than the company that we chose for

than the company that we chose for internet company of the year in 2002

internet company of the year in 2002

internet company of the year in 2002 which was google google so google we

which was google google so google we

which was google google so google we won’t bore you with the history but i

won’t bore you with the history but i

won’t bore you with the history but i mean in 2002 that was the last year that

mean in 2002 that was the last year that

mean in 2002 that was the last year that the company’s revenues were below a

the company’s revenues were below a

the company’s revenues were below a billion it was the last time it had less

billion it was the last time it had less

billion it was the last time it had less than a thousand employees it was also

than a thousand employees it was also

than a thousand employees it was also when Google shifted from being just a

when Google shifted from being just a

when Google shifted from being just a basically cute search destination with

basically cute search destination with

basically cute search destination with the i’m feeling lucky kind of button

the i’m feeling lucky kind of button

the i’m feeling lucky kind of button there to a real business that’s when

there to a real business that’s when

there to a real business that’s when adsense and adwords started to be either

adsense and adwords started to be either

adsense and adwords started to be either the revenue they developed a revenue

the revenue they developed a revenue

the revenue they developed a revenue model and it was the year after when

model and it was the year after when

model and it was the year after when they actually went out and bought

they actually went out and bought

they actually went out and bought applied semantics and that’s what gave

applied semantics and that’s what gave

applied semantics and that’s what gave them the search technology for adsense

them the search technology for adsense

them the search technology for adsense and adwords and that’s when they

and adwords and that’s when they

and adwords and that’s when they basically started to buy springs to get

basically started to buy springs to get

basically started to buy springs to get all that massive real estate on

all that massive real estate on

all that massive real estate on different websites to start monetizing

different websites to start monetizing

different websites to start monetizing and then in august two thousand four

and then in august two thousand four

and then in august two thousand four when they filed and went public I think

when they filed and went public I think

when they filed and went public I think that’s when analysts and critics and

that’s when analysts and critics and

that’s when analysts and critics and fans realized oh my god what a huge

fans realized oh my god what a huge

fans realized oh my god what a huge business is underneath this cute little

business is underneath this cute little

business is underneath this cute little search engine and cute little site so

search engine and cute little site so

search engine and cute little site so 2002 rising from the ashes was Google in

2002 rising from the ashes was Google in

2002 rising from the ashes was Google in 2003 you picked a company that’s a

2003 you picked a company that’s a

2003 you picked a company that’s a little bit less sexy in terms of media

little bit less sexy in terms of media

little bit less sexy in terms of media pio a Cisco yeah so why purposely Cisco

pio a Cisco yeah so why purposely Cisco

pio a Cisco yeah so why purposely Cisco is a company that basically built the

is a company that basically built the

is a company that basically built the backbone of the web either directly

backbone of the web either directly

backbone of the web either directly through investment or through

through investment or through

through investment or through acquisition the reason why we chose

acquisition the reason why we chose

acquisition the reason why we chose Cisco in 2003 it’s because in that 10

Cisco in 2003 it’s because in that 10

Cisco in 2003 it’s because in that 10 plus years span from 94 to 2007 it

plus years span from 94 to 2007 it

plus years span from 94 to 2007 it deserved a spot and ironically in 2003

deserved a spot and ironically in 2003

deserved a spot and ironically in 2003 most of the online space was the nuclear

most of the online space was the nuclear

most of the online space was the nuclear you know sort of winter but consumers

you know sort of winter but consumers

you know sort of winter but consumers were spending more and more time online

were spending more and more time online

were spending more and more time online and that benefited a company like Cisco

and that benefited a company like Cisco

and that benefited a company like Cisco that’s the year of the stock double

that’s the year of the stock double

that’s the year of the stock double right so even in a horrible landscape of

right so even in a horrible landscape of

right so even in a horrible landscape of 2003 the stock rules from $13 to 24 so

2003 the stock rules from $13 to 24 so

2003 the stock rules from $13 to 24 so with all the consumers still marching

with all the consumers still marching

with all the consumers still marching towards online the one company that

towards online the one company that

towards online the one company that benefit most was Cisco so they went with

benefit most was Cisco so they went with

benefit most was Cisco so they went with top company of the year in 2003-2004

top company of the year in 2003-2004

top company of the year in 2003-2004 your pic was a company that actually

your pic was a company that actually

your pic was a company that actually made some headlines this year skype why

made some headlines this year skype why

made some headlines this year skype why were they your main choice in 2004 well

were they your main choice in 2004 well

were they your main choice in 2004 well frankly I think that’s the year where

frankly I think that’s the year where

frankly I think that’s the year where they just really

they just really

they just really exploded it was one of the great viral

exploded it was one of the great viral

exploded it was one of the great viral stories it was founded by the

stories it was founded by the

stories it was founded by the entrepreneurs behind cos ah Nicholas

entrepreneurs behind cos ah Nicholas

entrepreneurs behind cos ah Nicholas Enstrom and jonna’s fris and 2002 is

Enstrom and jonna’s fris and 2002 is

Enstrom and jonna’s fris and 2002 is when Draper invested in them in 2003 is

when Draper invested in them in 2003 is

when Draper invested in them in 2003 is when the domains were registered in 2004

when the domains were registered in 2004

when the domains were registered in 2004 the company just blew up went viral and

the company just blew up went viral and

the company just blew up went viral and in october two thousand five is when

in october two thousand five is when

in october two thousand five is when ebay paid 4.1 billion dollars for the

ebay paid 4.1 billion dollars for the

ebay paid 4.1 billion dollars for the company and the big footnote to that

company and the big footnote to that

company and the big footnote to that story obviously is that they did not

story obviously is that they did not

story obviously is that they did not even secure the underlying IP the IP

even secure the underlying IP the IP

even secure the underlying IP the IP remained you know in the hands of the

remained you know in the hands of the

remained you know in the hands of the two entrepreneurs was under a company

two entrepreneurs was under a company

two entrepreneurs was under a company called jolted and that’s what led to a

called jolted and that’s what led to a

called jolted and that’s what led to a whole other you know drama last year

whole other you know drama last year

whole other you know drama last year when when basically you know new private

when when basically you know new private

when when basically you know new private equity firms came in bought the

equity firms came in bought the

equity firms came in bought the underlying IP and culminated it all on

underlying IP and culminated it all on

underlying IP and culminated it all on the sale to Microsoft this year for

the sale to Microsoft this year for

the sale to Microsoft this year for eight billion dollars so I mean skype

eight billion dollars so I mean skype

eight billion dollars so I mean skype somewhere someone is writing the

somewhere someone is writing the

somewhere someone is writing the screenplay to that Hollywood corporate

screenplay to that Hollywood corporate

screenplay to that Hollywood corporate Silicon Valley European drama fair

Silicon Valley European drama fair

Silicon Valley European drama fair enough 2005 a company that everyone

enough 2005 a company that everyone

enough 2005 a company that everyone likes to make fun of and that is making

likes to make fun of and that is making

likes to make fun of and that is making one last embarrassing attempt to be

one last embarrassing attempt to be

one last embarrassing attempt to be relevant again but they were really

relevant again but they were really

relevant again but they were really relevant that your myspace yeah so

relevant that your myspace yeah so

relevant that your myspace yeah so myspace was founded in July of 2003 it

myspace was founded in July of 2003 it

myspace was founded in July of 2003 it was incubated within intermix formerly

was incubated within intermix formerly

was incubated within intermix formerly known as ye universe it overtook

known as ye universe it overtook

known as ye universe it overtook friendster again we’re going to link to

friendster again we’re going to link to

friendster again we’re going to link to a story by one of the friendster

a story by one of the friendster

a story by one of the friendster insiders about how that company

insiders about how that company

insiders about how that company initially was the sexy poster child for

initially was the sexy poster child for

initially was the sexy poster child for social networking and it was overtaken

social networking and it was overtaken

social networking and it was overtaken by myspace in in summary basically

by myspace in in summary basically

by myspace in in summary basically friendster the board was you know trying

friendster the board was you know trying

friendster the board was you know trying to take on google and take over the

to take on google and take over the

to take on google and take over the world when its servers wouldn’t load up

world when its servers wouldn’t load up

world when its servers wouldn’t load up the sites kind of thing so it’s a good

the sites kind of thing so it’s a good

the sites kind of thing so it’s a good example of paying attention to the small

example of paying attention to the small

example of paying attention to the small details so i actually think that in 2005

details so i actually think that in 2005

details so i actually think that in 2005 when myspace sorry when myspace was

when myspace sorry when myspace was

when myspace sorry when myspace was acquired by news corp 46 hunt site for

acquired by news corp 46 hunt site for

acquired by news corp 46 hunt site for 580 million dollars News Corp bought

580 million dollars News Corp bought

580 million dollars News Corp bought intermix that was one of the two deals

intermix that was one of the two deals

intermix that was one of the two deals that News Corp’s Ross Levinsohn did the

that News Corp’s Ross Levinsohn did the

that News Corp’s Ross Levinsohn did the other one was when he bought IGN which

other one was when he bought IGN which

other one was when he bought IGN which was my old employer at the time I

was my old employer at the time I

was my old employer at the time I thought the I Jen deal would be better

thought the I Jen deal would be better

thought the I Jen deal would be better because professional content matters but

because professional content matters but

because professional content matters but the myspace wanted was the sexy one and

the myspace wanted was the sexy one and

the myspace wanted was the sexy one and i believe that word not for rupert

i believe that word not for rupert

i believe that word not for rupert murdoch to basically just get so

murdoch to basically just get so

murdoch to basically just get so distracted with the Dow Jones purchase I

distracted with the Dow Jones purchase I

distracted with the Dow Jones purchase I think myspace could have been a lot more

think myspace could have been a lot more

think myspace could have been a lot more it’s easy to criticize it and you can

it’s easy to criticize it and you can

it’s easy to criticize it and you can make fun of me for this and you should

make fun of me for this and you should

make fun of me for this and you should actually in 2006 I picked that deal as

actually in 2006 I picked that deal as

actually in 2006 I picked that deal as the best internet deal of all time

the best internet deal of all time

the best internet deal of all time because Google went out

because Google went out

because Google went out and paid nine hundred million dollars

and paid nine hundred million dollars

and paid nine hundred million dollars for the rights to run search ads and you

for the rights to run search ads and you

for the rights to run search ads and you know search listings in display banners

know search listings in display banners

know search listings in display banners so at the time it was a great deal the

so at the time it was a great deal the

so at the time it was a great deal the fact that you know the founders walk got

fact that you know the founders walk got

fact that you know the founders walk got distracted Rupert Murdoch got distracted

distracted Rupert Murdoch got distracted

distracted Rupert Murdoch got distracted and all of the other things I mean

and all of the other things I mean

and all of the other things I mean that’s after the think their focus

that’s after the think their focus

that’s after the think their focus became a greven new revenue in general

became a greven new revenue in general

became a greven new revenue in general rather than actual product development

rather than actual product development

rather than actual product development and no money went into the technology

and no money went into the technology

and no money went into the technology from the time you signed up to my space

from the time you signed up to my space

from the time you signed up to my space and time you quit it they were always

and time you quit it they were always

and time you quit it they were always telling you the live chat was coming but

telling you the live chat was coming but

telling you the live chat was coming but it never did and I think that’s where

it never did and I think that’s where

it never did and I think that’s where Facebook really so specific media this

Facebook really so specific media this

Facebook really so specific media this year bought them for 35 million they put

year bought them for 35 million they put

year bought them for 35 million they put up I think a small sum of that money

up I think a small sum of that money

up I think a small sum of that money mostly came from their PE firm Francisco

mostly came from their PE firm Francisco

mostly came from their PE firm Francisco partners I think that’s a great

partners I think that’s a great

partners I think that’s a great marketing when they go out to do the

marketing when they go out to do the

marketing when they go out to do the roadshow how much did I GM buy them for

roadshow how much did I GM buy them for

roadshow how much did I GM buy them for fun 580 million but that’s unfair I mean

fun 580 million but that’s unfair I mean

fun 580 million but that’s unfair I mean this is like accountants running wild

this is like accountants running wild

this is like accountants running wild and basically saying how could we

and basically saying how could we

and basically saying how could we maximize the tax loss game I mean you

maximize the tax loss game I mean you

maximize the tax loss game I mean you have to be somewhat just use common

have to be somewhat just use common

have to be somewhat just use common sense google paid newscorp nine hundred

sense google paid newscorp nine hundred

sense google paid newscorp nine hundred million dollars News Corp bought

million dollars News Corp bought

million dollars News Corp bought intermix for 580 million yes they poured

intermix for 580 million yes they poured

intermix for 580 million yes they poured in a lot of money but the fact that then

in a lot of money but the fact that then

in a lot of money but the fact that then they sort of yeah and they wanted 100 or

they sort of yeah and they wanted 100 or

they sort of yeah and they wanted 100 or 200 million but the 35 million dollars

200 million but the 35 million dollars

200 million but the 35 million dollars at specific media paid for them is

at specific media paid for them is

at specific media paid for them is actually just a great marketing expense

actually just a great marketing expense

actually just a great marketing expense when specific goes out and does its

when specific goes out and does its

when specific goes out and does its roadshow to institutional investors

roadshow to institutional investors

roadshow to institutional investors instead of being yet another ad network

instead of being yet another ad network

instead of being yet another ad network they’re going to be the guys who had you

they’re going to be the guys who had you

they’re going to be the guys who had you know the cojones to go out and buy

know the cojones to go out and buy

know the cojones to go out and buy myspace and sort of with Justin Timbers

myspace and sort of with Justin Timbers

myspace and sort of with Justin Timbers Justin Timberlake’s helping reposition

Justin Timberlake’s helping reposition

Justin Timberlake’s helping reposition it so we’re going to talk more about

it so we’re going to talk more about

it so we’re going to talk more about Justin in during the lightning round so

Justin in during the lightning round so

Justin in during the lightning round so point being 2005 we went with myspace

point being 2005 we went with myspace

point being 2005 we went with myspace 2006 2006 it was actually the your mojo

2006 2006 it was actually the your mojo

2006 2006 it was actually the your mojo is found it wasn’t it yes it was what

is found it wasn’t it yes it was what

is found it wasn’t it yes it was what holder was found in two thousand and

holder was found in two thousand and

holder was found in two thousand and your pic was YouTube which makes me

your pic was YouTube which makes me

your pic was YouTube which makes me wonder is did you find watchmojo because

wonder is did you find watchmojo because

wonder is did you find watchmojo because YouTube was one of your pics um okay so

YouTube was one of your pics um okay so

YouTube was one of your pics um okay so in the fall winter of 2005 when I was

in the fall winter of 2005 when I was

in the fall winter of 2005 when I was thinking of what am I going to do after

thinking of what am I going to do after

thinking of what am I going to do after askmen got acquired and I was basically

askmen got acquired and I was basically

askmen got acquired and I was basically you know wearing out my my tenure there

you know wearing out my my tenure there

you know wearing out my my tenure there I did see youtube growing phenomenal

I did see youtube growing phenomenal

I did see youtube growing phenomenal YouTube the URL was registered in May of

YouTube the URL was registered in May of

YouTube the URL was registered in May of 2005 and I got acquired less than 18

2005 and I got acquired less than 18

2005 and I got acquired less than 18 months later in October of 2006 I won’t

months later in October of 2006 I won’t

months later in October of 2006 I won’t say YouTube in particular but the fact

say YouTube in particular but the fact

say YouTube in particular but the fact that there were all these new

that there were all these new

that there were all these new distribution platforms like YouTube like

distribution platforms like YouTube like

distribution platforms like YouTube like dailymotion metacafe and whatnot was a

dailymotion metacafe and whatnot was a

dailymotion metacafe and whatnot was a big opportunity to create content so

big opportunity to create content so

big opportunity to create content so YouTube was founded by three paypal guys

YouTube was founded by three paypal guys

YouTube was founded by three paypal guys joette Kareem Steve Chen and chad hurley

joette Kareem Steve Chen and chad hurley

joette Kareem Steve Chen and chad hurley it was funded by one of their colleagues

it was funded by one of their colleagues

it was funded by one of their colleagues at PayPal who was like the controller or

at PayPal who was like the controller or

at PayPal who was like the controller or CFO

CFO

CFO roll off both who went to Sequoia and

roll off both who went to Sequoia and

roll off both who went to Sequoia and basically that company YouTube only only

basically that company YouTube only only

basically that company YouTube only only got 11.5 million and it sold for 1.65

got 11.5 million and it sold for 1.65

got 11.5 million and it sold for 1.65 billion that I would say right now is

billion that I would say right now is

billion that I would say right now is one of the better deals of all time

one of the better deals of all time

one of the better deals of all time online because now Google has number one

online because now Google has number one

online because now Google has number one in video number one in search it’s very

in video number one in search it’s very

in video number one in search it’s very dominating which takes us to 2007 2007

dominating which takes us to 2007 2007

dominating which takes us to 2007 2007 still a huge media darling today you

still a huge media darling today you

still a huge media darling today you chose facebook why did you choose them

chose facebook why did you choose them

chose facebook why did you choose them so early in the game well again we had

so early in the game well again we had

so early in the game well again we had to choose a company each year right and

to choose a company each year right and

to choose a company each year right and it had to be a different company so we

it had to be a different company so we

it had to be a different company so we went with Facebook in 2007 because even

went with Facebook in 2007 because even

went with Facebook in 2007 because even though was founded in 2004 it’s in 2007

though was founded in 2004 it’s in 2007

though was founded in 2004 it’s in 2007 that the paper valuation really started

that the paper valuation really started

that the paper valuation really started to grow so it went from like oh is this

to grow so it went from like oh is this

to grow so it went from like oh is this worth you know it turned down an 800

worth you know it turned down an 800

worth you know it turned down an 800 million dollar deal from Viacom and turn

million dollar deal from Viacom and turn

million dollar deal from Viacom and turn down a billion dollar deal at 1.6

down a billion dollar deal at 1.6

down a billion dollar deal at 1.6 billion dollar deal ultimately Microsoft

billion dollar deal ultimately Microsoft

billion dollar deal ultimately Microsoft came in and invested in a one point six

came in and invested in a one point six

came in and invested in a one point six percent stake at a 15 billion dollar

percent stake at a 15 billion dollar

percent stake at a 15 billion dollar valuation and at the time that seem

valuation and at the time that seem

valuation and at the time that seem crazy but you know the value has gone up

crazy but you know the value has gone up

crazy but you know the value has gone up in the secondary markets the 70 billion

in the secondary markets the 70 billion

in the secondary markets the 70 billion now Facebook has a lot to do to prove

now Facebook has a lot to do to prove

now Facebook has a lot to do to prove that value but long story short 2007 is

that value but long story short 2007 is

that value but long story short 2007 is when Facebook literally said we’re not

when Facebook literally said we’re not

when Facebook literally said we’re not going to be some kind of small

going to be some kind of small

going to be some kind of small acquisition in a company that might muck

acquisition in a company that might muck

acquisition in a company that might muck us up we’re going to want to be the next

us up we’re going to want to be the next

us up we’re going to want to be the next platform so I think now is a good time

platform so I think now is a good time

platform so I think now is a good time to take a break because that’s when we

to take a break because that’s when we

to take a break because that’s when we ended the list back in 2007 2008 2009

ended the list back in 2007 2008 2009

ended the list back in 2007 2008 2009 and 2010 we’ll discuss that next year

and 2010 we’ll discuss that next year

and 2010 we’ll discuss that next year and set the stage for the 2011 company

and set the stage for the 2011 company

and set the stage for the 2011 company of the year we’ll be right back

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