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HipMojo 20C: YouTube’s Trillion Views in 2011


welcome back this is segment 3 episode

welcome back this is segment 3 episode 20 of hip mojo we’re gonna hit the

20 of hip mojo we’re gonna hit the

20 of hip mojo we’re gonna hit the lightning round now so I got a question

lightning round now so I got a question

lightning round now so I got a question for you we’ll start off is an old median

for you we’ll start off is an old median

for you we’ll start off is an old median is an old media hookup overrated

is an old media hookup overrated

is an old media hookup overrated yeah the background here is what’s

yeah the background here is what’s

yeah the background here is what’s trending the show’s Shira Lazar that got

trending the show’s Shira Lazar that got

trending the show’s Shira Lazar that got dropped by CBS because somebody an

dropped by CBS because somebody an

dropped by CBS because somebody an intern tweeted that Steve Jobs had died

intern tweeted that Steve Jobs had died

intern tweeted that Steve Jobs had died before Steve Jobs actually passed away

before Steve Jobs actually passed away

before Steve Jobs actually passed away and what’s happened is since they’ve

and what’s happened is since they’ve

and what’s happened is since they’ve been released by CBS they continue doing

been released by CBS they continue doing

been released by CBS they continue doing the show and the rankings grew I think

the show and the rankings grew I think

the show and the rankings grew I think an old media hookup is great for

an old media hookup is great for

an old media hookup is great for validation and sounds really great we

validation and sounds really great we

validation and sounds really great we were always very proud whenever we sign

were always very proud whenever we sign

were always very proud whenever we sign a deal with like a Time Warner or like

a deal with like a Time Warner or like

a deal with like a Time Warner or like even Hulu but those deals as much as

even Hulu but those deals as much as

even Hulu but those deals as much as their great partners those deals tend to

their great partners those deals tend to

their great partners those deals tend to generate a lot less reach sometimes even

generate a lot less reach sometimes even

generate a lot less reach sometimes even revenue then a lot of the new media

revenue then a lot of the new media

revenue then a lot of the new media deals with less known partners so I

deals with less known partners so I

deals with less known partners so I think it is overrated but as a sort of

think it is overrated but as a sort of

think it is overrated but as a sort of you know ace in your pocket for PR

you know ace in your pocket for PR

you know ace in your pocket for PR purposes like your mother probably knows

purposes like your mother probably knows

purposes like your mother probably knows CBS does she really know YouTube which

CBS does she really know YouTube which

CBS does she really know YouTube which by the mainstream cred right to some

by the mainstream cred right to some

by the mainstream cred right to some extent but I’m not surprised that they

extent but I’m not surprised that they

extent but I’m not surprised that they did better I actually give them props

did better I actually give them props

did better I actually give them props for having the balls determination to

for having the balls determination to

for having the balls determination to keep charging ahead a lot of people

keep charging ahead a lot of people

keep charging ahead a lot of people after getting dropped by CBS would

after getting dropped by CBS would

after getting dropped by CBS would probably you know wake up a bit you know

probably you know wake up a bit you know

probably you know wake up a bit you know nervous which I’m sure they did but they

nervous which I’m sure they did but they

nervous which I’m sure they did but they kept trekking along and I’m not

kept trekking along and I’m not

kept trekking along and I’m not surprised and good to see that you’re

surprised and good to see that you’re

surprised and good to see that you’re doing well so Google renewed their

doing well so Google renewed their

doing well so Google renewed their Mozilla deal for three years but this

Mozilla deal for three years but this

Mozilla deal for three years but this mozilla really have a shot i mean here’s

mozilla really have a shot i mean here’s

mozilla really have a shot i mean here’s the thing chrome is now like the number

the thing chrome is now like the number

the thing chrome is now like the number one or number two biggest I think in the

one or number two biggest I think in the

one or number two biggest I think in the US chrome is number two after Internet

US chrome is number two after Internet

US chrome is number two after Internet Explorer but I think globally I saw a

Explorer but I think globally I saw a

Explorer but I think globally I saw a report that chrome is already number one

report that chrome is already number one

report that chrome is already number one in many places if not globally around

in many places if not globally around

in many places if not globally around the world so if Google basically pulls

the world so if Google basically pulls

the world so if Google basically pulls that deal in three years and removes 99%

that deal in three years and removes 99%

that deal in three years and removes 99% of the funding that mozilla firefox’

of the funding that mozilla firefox’

of the funding that mozilla firefox’ gets it’s Firefox dead does Firefox have

gets it’s Firefox dead does Firefox have

gets it’s Firefox dead does Firefox have a future is the question you know i

a future is the question you know i

a future is the question you know i firefox might have a future the same way

firefox might have a future the same way

firefox might have a future the same way Internet Explorer 6 still manages to

Internet Explorer 6 still manages to

Internet Explorer 6 still manages to exist somehow to this day in some

exist somehow to this day in some

exist somehow to this day in some manifestations I think they’re I think

manifestations I think they’re I think

manifestations I think they’re I think they’re on their way to I guess being

they’re on their way to I guess being

they’re on their way to I guess being obsolete or irrelevant at the end of the

obsolete or irrelevant at the end of the

obsolete or irrelevant at the end of the day this is my conspiracy theory that

day this is my conspiracy theory that

day this is my conspiracy theory that Google invested in them to kind

Google invested in them to kind

Google invested in them to kind you know get a better sense of where the

you know get a better sense of where the

you know get a better sense of where the browser thing was going and it kind of

browser thing was going and it kind of

browser thing was going and it kind of gave them the insight they needed to

gave them the insight they needed to

gave them the insight they needed to develop chrome I think they want to

develop chrome I think they want to

develop chrome I think they want to remain in bed with Mozilla because

remain in bed with Mozilla because

remain in bed with Mozilla because there’s still tons of Firefox users out

there’s still tons of Firefox users out

there’s still tons of Firefox users out there know what everyone has adopted

there know what everyone has adopted

there know what everyone has adopted chrome and that means there’s still this

chrome and that means there’s still this

chrome and that means there’s still this whole chunk of user data that they

whole chunk of user data that they

whole chunk of user data that they wouldn’t otherwise have access to I am

wouldn’t otherwise have access to I am

wouldn’t otherwise have access to I am gonna bet dollars to donuts that in

gonna bet dollars to donuts that in

gonna bet dollars to donuts that in three years when the deals up it doesn’t

three years when the deals up it doesn’t

three years when the deals up it doesn’t get renewed and that Microsoft’s gonna

get renewed and that Microsoft’s gonna

get renewed and that Microsoft’s gonna buy them possibly that could be

buy them possibly that could be

buy them possibly that could be interesting I don’t know though okay

interesting I don’t know though okay

interesting I don’t know though okay next question we’ve heard a lot about

next question we’ve heard a lot about

next question we’ve heard a lot about bloggers versus journalists right like

bloggers versus journalists right like

bloggers versus journalists right like some woman gets thrown into jail or it

some woman gets thrown into jail or it

some woman gets thrown into jail or it gets to pay a massive fee cuz she’s a

gets to pay a massive fee cuz she’s a

gets to pay a massive fee cuz she’s a blogger so she doesn’t have the same

blogger so she doesn’t have the same

blogger so she doesn’t have the same rights as a journalist or associations

rights as a journalist or associations

rights as a journalist or associations and just really if you’ve heard this

and just really if you’ve heard this

and just really if you’ve heard this theme it’s been going on for years

theme it’s been going on for years

theme it’s been going on for years going on for years yes so basically do

going on for years yes so basically do

going on for years yes so basically do you see there being a greater

you see there being a greater

you see there being a greater convergence and blurring of the lines

convergence and blurring of the lines

convergence and blurring of the lines next year or do you think that you’re

next year or do you think that you’re

next year or do you think that you’re gonna really see a difference where some

gonna really see a difference where some

gonna really see a difference where some bloggers are gonna become like

bloggers are gonna become like

bloggers are gonna become like journalists but you’re gonna basically

journalists but you’re gonna basically

journalists but you’re gonna basically you know be treated as first and

you know be treated as first and

you know be treated as first and second-class citizens

second-class citizens

second-class citizens well you know the lines I think have

well you know the lines I think have

well you know the lines I think have been continually blurring more and more

been continually blurring more and more

been continually blurring more and more for pretty much since blogging when

for pretty much since blogging when

for pretty much since blogging when mainstream so yeah I think that’s gonna

mainstream so yeah I think that’s gonna

mainstream so yeah I think that’s gonna continue to blur at the end of the day

continue to blur at the end of the day

continue to blur at the end of the day though you know if you want breaking

though you know if you want breaking

though you know if you want breaking tech news you don’t go to the New York

tech news you don’t go to the New York

tech news you don’t go to the New York Times or The Wall Street Journal you go

Times or The Wall Street Journal you go

Times or The Wall Street Journal you go to TechCrunch and some of those guys

to TechCrunch and some of those guys

to TechCrunch and some of those guys used to be journalists and some have it

used to be journalists and some have it

used to be journalists and some have it and some of the ones with journalist

and some of the ones with journalist

and some of the ones with journalist training still employ it a lot more

training still employ it a lot more

training still employ it a lot more others have gotten more gossipy and more

others have gotten more gossipy and more

others have gotten more gossipy and more opinionated okay but to be fair York

opinionated okay but to be fair York

opinionated okay but to be fair York Times The Wall Street Journal do break a

Times The Wall Street Journal do break a

Times The Wall Street Journal do break a lot of tech news yeah they do but I

lot of tech news yeah they do but I

lot of tech news yeah they do but I thought if you’re saying what they

thought if you’re saying what they

thought if you’re saying what they represent or this media I get that okay

represent or this media I get that okay

represent or this media I get that okay so um you know I think if anything’s on

so um you know I think if anything’s on

so um you know I think if anything’s on the line here it’s actually freedom of

the line here it’s actually freedom of

the line here it’s actually freedom of the press or freedom of speech because

the press or freedom of speech because

the press or freedom of speech because as more and more people blog they don’t

as more and more people blog they don’t

as more and more people blog they don’t have those same protections we really

have those same protections we really

have those same protections we really got a look at reevaluating I guess the

got a look at reevaluating I guess the

got a look at reevaluating I guess the lexicon of freedom of the press in

lexicon of freedom of the press in

lexicon of freedom of the press in general and try to substantiate what

general and try to substantiate what

general and try to substantiate what falls under freedom of speech when is

falls under freedom of speech when is

falls under freedom of speech when is that when are you protected as a member

that when are you protected as a member

that when are you protected as a member of the press and that kind of thing see

of the press and that kind of thing see

of the press and that kind of thing see I think they’ll continue to blur it’s

I think they’ll continue to blur it’s

I think they’ll continue to blur it’s funny because you took it from that

funny because you took it from that

funny because you took it from that angle I’m looking at it more as it all

angle I’m looking at it more as it all

angle I’m looking at it more as it all boils down I think more so is are you

boils down I think more so is are you

boils down I think more so is are you basically writing for yourself even if

basically writing for yourself even if

basically writing for yourself even if it’s a big blog or is there some kind of

it’s a big blog or is there some kind of

it’s a big blog or is there some kind of big publication I’m writing for all

big publication I’m writing for all

big publication I’m writing for all intents and purposes the same articles

intents and purposes the same articles

intents and purposes the same articles same themes that I wrote like three four

same themes that I wrote like three four

same themes that I wrote like three four years ago when it was okay it was honor

years ago when it was okay it was honor

years ago when it was okay it was honor to the WatchMojo blog but I was doing

to the WatchMojo blog but I was doing

to the WatchMojo blog but I was doing right on in the business blog of the

right on in the business blog of the

right on in the business blog of the company I’m writing this I’m covering

company I’m writing this I’m covering

company I’m writing this I’m covering the same stuff but now it’s for

the same stuff but now it’s for

the same stuff but now it’s for TechCrunch and media polls admittedly

TechCrunch and media polls admittedly

TechCrunch and media polls admittedly big well-known brands and now people are

big well-known brands and now people are

big well-known brands and now people are like well act like when we have like

like well act like when we have like

like well act like when we have like actual business talks some people are

actual business talks some people are

actual business talks some people are like well since you’re journalists we

like well since you’re journalists we

like well since you’re journalists we want to make sure this stays off the

want to make sure this stays off the

want to make sure this stays off the record and I’m like we’re talking about

record and I’m like we’re talking about

record and I’m like we’re talking about who’s a journalist but the perception I

who’s a journalist but the perception I

who’s a journalist but the perception I think is not so much bloggers versus

think is not so much bloggers versus

think is not so much bloggers versus journalists it’s more you do it could be

journalists it’s more you do it could be

journalists it’s more you do it could be a blog that has gone on to become a

a blog that has gone on to become a

a blog that has gone on to become a massive publication I think it just

massive publication I think it just

massive publication I think it just depends like basically are you writing

depends like basically are you writing

depends like basically are you writing for your own dinky sort of like blogger

for your own dinky sort of like blogger

for your own dinky sort of like blogger account or WordPress account who are you

account or WordPress account who are you

account or WordPress account who are you is there a publication there’s a lot

is there a publication there’s a lot

is there a publication there’s a lot more op-ed content now because of blogs

more op-ed content now because of blogs

more op-ed content now because of blogs and like you said you know you’ve got

and like you said you know you’ve got

and like you said you know you’ve got the big guys like TechCrunch or you got

the big guys like TechCrunch or you got

the big guys like TechCrunch or you got a dinky dinky blogspot okay yeah so

a dinky dinky blogspot okay yeah so

a dinky dinky blogspot okay yeah so could have a dick he account as well but

could have a dick he account as well but

could have a dick he account as well but that’s another show and other day guys

that’s another show and other day guys

that’s another show and other day guys all right next question um YouTube

all right next question um YouTube

all right next question um YouTube streamed a trillion videos a trillion

streamed a trillion videos a trillion

streamed a trillion videos a trillion the team yeah in 2020 yeah they’re gonna

the team yeah in 2020 yeah they’re gonna

the team yeah in 2020 yeah they’re gonna keep growing like this or do you think

keep growing like this or do you think

keep growing like this or do you think that they’re getting close to plateauing

that they’re getting close to plateauing

that they’re getting close to plateauing okay I know I just said that whole thing

okay I know I just said that whole thing

okay I know I just said that whole thing about off-the-record what I’m about to

about off-the-record what I’m about to

about off-the-record what I’m about to say is sort of past saying now that this

say is sort of past saying now that this

say is sort of past saying now that this was this has been announced but every

was this has been announced but every

was this has been announced but every time I run into a YouTube staffer at a

time I run into a YouTube staffer at a

time I run into a YouTube staffer at a conference or something and I’m like man

conference or something and I’m like man

conference or something and I’m like man you guys are there like I’ll watch won’t

you guys are there like I’ll watch won’t

you guys are there like I’ll watch won’t real great I read your articles whatever

real great I read your articles whatever

real great I read your articles whatever I’m like alright we’re like a little you

I’m like alright we’re like a little you

I’m like alright we’re like a little you know a fly on your ass basically as the

know a fly on your ass basically as the

know a fly on your ass basically as the saying goes and I’m like you guys are

saying goes and I’m like you guys are

saying goes and I’m like you guys are killing it you know I’m like 48 hours of

killing it you know I’m like 48 hours of

killing it you know I’m like 48 hours of content uploaded each minute they’re

content uploaded each minute they’re

content uploaded each minute they’re like man that was like six months ago

like man that was like six months ago

like man that was like six months ago now it’s and they throw out some crazy

now it’s and they throw out some crazy

now it’s and they throw out some crazy number but don’t tell anyone

number but don’t tell anyone

number but don’t tell anyone so you know they started the yeren with

so you know they started the yeren with

so you know they started the yeren with something like oh two billion streams a

something like oh two billion streams a

something like oh two billion streams a day and then like when I said man 2

day and then like when I said man 2

day and then like when I said man 2 billion streams a day they’re like I

billion streams a day they’re like I

billion streams a day they’re like I think it’s a three now like don’t quote

think it’s a three now like don’t quote

think it’s a three now like don’t quote me on that three but my point is they

me on that three but my point is they

me on that three but my point is they just keep growing I think they will

just keep growing I think they will

just keep growing I think they will probably keep growing and I’ve always

probably keep growing and I’ve always

probably keep growing and I’ve always said it you could go back to one of my

said it you could go back to one of my

said it you could go back to one of my crazy blog posts from 2006 and I or 2007

crazy blog posts from 2006 and I or 2007

crazy blog posts from 2006 and I or 2007 you listicle II and I said YouTube will

you listicle II and I said YouTube will

you listicle II and I said YouTube will be more dominant in video than Google is

be more dominant in video than Google is

be more dominant in video than Google is in search mark my words it will be you

in search mark my words it will be you

in search mark my words it will be you agree yeah it’s just gonna be the

agree yeah it’s just gonna be the

agree yeah it’s just gonna be the natural monopoly however I think they

natural monopoly however I think they

natural monopoly however I think they are smart to focus on quality and even

are smart to focus on quality and even

are smart to focus on quality and even if these hundred channels are gonna flop

if these hundred channels are gonna flop

if these hundred channels are gonna flop or or some will do well some will die

or or some will do well some will die

or or some will do well some will die some will live I think they are going to

some will live I think they are going to

some will live I think they are going to have challenges in terms of programming

have challenges in terms of programming

have challenges in terms of programming you know like think of it NBC for the if

you know like think of it NBC for the if

you know like think of it NBC for the if their life depended on it they couldn’t

their life depended on it they couldn’t

their life depended on it they couldn’t take two shows that are going to be

take two shows that are going to be

take two shows that are going to be successful

successful

successful spending you know fifty million dollars

spending you know fifty million dollars

spending you know fifty million dollars in production Google isn’t just gonna

in production Google isn’t just gonna

in production Google isn’t just gonna throw up 100 channels against the wall

throw up 100 channels against the wall

throw up 100 channels against the wall and they’re all gonna become hit shows

and they’re all gonna become hit shows

and they’re all gonna become hit shows so I think on that front

so I think on that front

so I think on that front YouTube has its work cut out for itself

YouTube has its work cut out for itself

YouTube has its work cut out for itself but in terms of sheer volume YouTube is

but in terms of sheer volume YouTube is

but in terms of sheer volume YouTube is going to be massive you know in terms of

going to be massive you know in terms of

going to be massive you know in terms of quality channels and I know VEVO was a

quality channels and I know VEVO was a

quality channels and I know VEVO was a way for the music industry to try to you

way for the music industry to try to you

way for the music industry to try to you know get some money back but the VEVO

know get some money back but the VEVO

know get some money back but the VEVO thing I think was a great way for them

thing I think was a great way for them

thing I think was a great way for them to launch a bunch of quality channels

to launch a bunch of quality channels

to launch a bunch of quality channels well granted it’s bite-sized content its

well granted it’s bite-sized content its

well granted it’s bite-sized content its music videos but if you’ve ever gone

music videos but if you’ve ever gone

music videos but if you’ve ever gone youtubing for a music video and you

youtubing for a music video and you

youtubing for a music video and you can’t find the official one like you’re

can’t find the official one like you’re

can’t find the official one like you’re getting people holding a shaky camera on

getting people holding a shaky camera on

getting people holding a shaky camera on their TV I wish they address that the

their TV I wish they address that the

their TV I wish they address that the number of times I want to like bring up

number of times I want to like bring up

number of times I want to like bring up a song let’s say special if it’s for one

a song let’s say special if it’s for one

a song let’s say special if it’s for one of my daughters and I got some crappy

of my daughters and I got some crappy

of my daughters and I got some crappy spoofer things yeah I would just rating

spoofer things yeah I would just rating

spoofer things yeah I would just rating alright question of the week Eric from

alright question of the week Eric from

alright question of the week Eric from Salt Lake City we’re going to both

Salt Lake City we’re going to both

Salt Lake City we’re going to both answer this you start off what was V V

answer this you start off what was V V

answer this you start off what was V V and caps it was t cap H cap ECAP capital

and caps it was t cap H cap ECAP capital

and caps it was t cap H cap ECAP capital letters what was the story in tech and

letters what was the story in tech and

letters what was the story in tech and media in 2011 and obviously let’s just

media in 2011 and obviously let’s just

media in 2011 and obviously let’s just give one each since okay okay I’m gonna

give one each since okay okay I’m gonna

give one each since okay okay I’m gonna be sappy sentimental and predictable I’m

be sappy sentimental and predictable I’m

be sappy sentimental and predictable I’m gonna say it’s the passing of Steve Jobs

gonna say it’s the passing of Steve Jobs

gonna say it’s the passing of Steve Jobs okay yeah I hate to say it I think I

okay yeah I hate to say it I think I

okay yeah I hate to say it I think I think it’s like I today I read that

think it’s like I today I read that

think it’s like I today I read that Bulgaria erected a statue for Steve Jobs

Bulgaria erected a statue for Steve Jobs

Bulgaria erected a statue for Steve Jobs and enemy Oh Gary Gary yeah I mean I

and enemy Oh Gary Gary yeah I mean I

and enemy Oh Gary Gary yeah I mean I would say that I’m sure a lot of CEOs

would say that I’m sure a lot of CEOs

would say that I’m sure a lot of CEOs inventors founders when Steve Jobs

inventors founders when Steve Jobs

inventors founders when Steve Jobs resigned but especially when he passed

resigned but especially when he passed

resigned but especially when he passed away I’m sure a lot of them felt like

away I’m sure a lot of them felt like

away I’m sure a lot of them felt like when I pass on people are gonna care

when I pass on people are gonna care

when I pass on people are gonna care like this and I think the clear answer

like this and I think the clear answer

like this and I think the clear answer is no people won’t I did that some

is no people won’t I did that some

is no people won’t I did that some personnel that’s it well I think he was

personnel that’s it well I think he was

personnel that’s it well I think he was also you know he was at the helm of a

also you know he was at the helm of a

also you know he was at the helm of a huge it not just an industry leader but

huge it not just an industry leader but

huge it not just an industry leader but an industry trip you know trend Center a

an industry trip you know trend Center a

an industry trip you know trend Center a talisman is as we brought up earlier and

talisman is as we brought up earlier and

talisman is as we brought up earlier and his passing got a lot of people asking a

his passing got a lot of people asking a

his passing got a lot of people asking a lot of questions including ourselves

lot of questions including ourselves

lot of questions including ourselves yeah I mean personally I’ll say this

yeah I mean personally I’ll say this

yeah I mean personally I’ll say this that I want to see a circus Olay or as I

that I want to see a circus Olay or as I

that I want to see a circus Olay or as I should say too salacious if to sell a

should say too salacious if to sell a

should say too salacious if to sell a show and I was thinking of ddotty

show and I was thinking of ddotty

show and I was thinking of ddotty birthday the founder know there’s hurt

birthday the founder know there’s hurt

birthday the founder know there’s hurt there’s I’m going somewhere with this

there’s I’m going somewhere with this

there’s I’m going somewhere with this and I was thinking of like you know how

and I was thinking of like you know how

and I was thinking of like you know how Agee daddy birthday he had the money to

Agee daddy birthday he had the money to

Agee daddy birthday he had the money to take his crazy troupe out to use with

take his crazy troupe out to use with

take his crazy troupe out to use with the West Coast when they start and he’s

the West Coast when they start and he’s

the West Coast when they start and he’s like you might not have money to come

like you might not have money to come

like you might not have money to come back and it’s like when he’s launched

back and it’s like when he’s launched

back and it’s like when he’s launched the circus he was like okay having

the circus he was like okay having

the circus he was like okay having animals is crazy

animals is crazy

animals is crazy it’s

it’s

it’s it’s inhumane and it doesn’t make any

it’s inhumane and it doesn’t make any

it’s inhumane and it doesn’t make any sense so I’m gonna basically get a bunch

sense so I’m gonna basically get a bunch

sense so I’m gonna basically get a bunch of people and do whatever I want to do

of people and do whatever I want to do

of people and do whatever I want to do no perhaps but but he built this massive

no perhaps but but he built this massive

no perhaps but but he built this massive thing and and I for some reason I was

thing and and I for some reason I was

thing and and I for some reason I was thinking of the show and this question

thinking of the show and this question

thinking of the show and this question because it came in that day and I was

because it came in that day and I was

because it came in that day and I was like it’s funny because Steve Jobs also

like it’s funny because Steve Jobs also

like it’s funny because Steve Jobs also like you know he didn’t really listen to

like you know he didn’t really listen to

like you know he didn’t really listen to what a lot of critics told him to do he

what a lot of critics told him to do he

what a lot of critics told him to do he stuck to his guns and and that usually

stuck to his guns and and that usually

stuck to his guns and and that usually is a surefire recipe – you know

is a surefire recipe – you know

is a surefire recipe – you know bankruptcy insanity in the books but he

bankruptcy insanity in the books but he

bankruptcy insanity in the books but he pulled it off so for me it was more than

pulled it off so for me it was more than

pulled it off so for me it was more than that I don’t really just get away with

that I don’t really just get away with

that I don’t really just get away with it he completely pulled it off but I’m

it he completely pulled it off but I’m

it he completely pulled it off but I’m gonna I want to finish off on this an

gonna I want to finish off on this an

gonna I want to finish off on this an amazing and amazing and amazing blog

amazing and amazing and amazing blog

amazing and amazing and amazing blog post and I’m gonna link to it when I

post and I’m gonna link to it when I

post and I’m gonna link to it when I post it except for god I just thought of

post it except for god I just thought of

post it except for god I just thought of this now it was this guy was like

this now it was this guy was like

this now it was this guy was like bashing design he’s like please drop the

bashing design he’s like please drop the

bashing design he’s like please drop the design thing and and you know he was

design thing and and you know he was

design thing and and you know he was like even though he said this he goes

like even though he said this he goes

like even though he said this he goes even though I’m a designer he’s like

even though I’m a designer he’s like

even though I’m a designer he’s like stop talking as a start-up about design

stop talking as a start-up about design

stop talking as a start-up about design it’s so not important compared to

it’s so not important compared to

it’s so not important compared to product and need and all that and of

product and need and all that and of

product and need and all that and of course a lot of like the fanboys came

course a lot of like the fanboys came

course a lot of like the fanboys came out well what about Apple what about

out well what about Apple what about

out well what about Apple what about Apple and he’s like well what about

Apple and he’s like well what about

Apple and he’s like well what about Apple Apple when they started they

Apple Apple when they started they

Apple Apple when they started they basically made computers in like you

basically made computers in like you

basically made computers in like you know in a wooden frame they didn’t care

know in a wooden frame they didn’t care

know in a wooden frame they didn’t care about design it’s once they had a

about design it’s once they had a

about design it’s once they had a product that’s once they did all this

product that’s once they did all this

product that’s once they did all this that so for me a lot of like little s

that so for me a lot of like little s

that so for me a lot of like little s and you know the one thing I couldn’t

and you know the one thing I couldn’t

and you know the one thing I couldn’t stand is how during even before he

stand is how during even before he

stand is how during even before he passed on everybody all of a sudden was

passed on everybody all of a sudden was

passed on everybody all of a sudden was like we are like apples a company

like we are like apples a company

like we are like apples a company because of this or we are like Steve

because of this or we are like Steve

because of this or we are like Steve Jobs that deal so when I think of like

Jobs that deal so when I think of like

Jobs that deal so when I think of like the story of the year it was like the

the story of the year it was like the

the story of the year it was like the tacky cynicism that okay this guy is now

tacky cynicism that okay this guy is now

tacky cynicism that okay this guy is now clearly like hot as whatever so

clearly like hot as whatever so

clearly like hot as whatever so everybody’s gonna so it wasn’t just what

everybody’s gonna so it wasn’t just what

everybody’s gonna so it wasn’t just what Steve Jobs did it’s also the machine

Steve Jobs did it’s also the machine

Steve Jobs did it’s also the machine design did sell a lot of Apple products

design did sell a lot of Apple products

design did sell a lot of Apple products but it wasn’t the design of the of the

but it wasn’t the design of the of the

but it wasn’t the design of the of the physical product so you think you’re

physical product so you think you’re

physical product so you think you’re together ok I was saying more of how

together ok I was saying more of how

together ok I was saying more of how things we’ve I know and I think that’s

things we’ve I know and I think that’s

things we’ve I know and I think that’s why they’re people get it they’re

why they’re people get it they’re

why they’re people get it they’re talking about different things when they

talking about different things when they

talking about different things when they start arguing about design in terms of

start arguing about design in terms of

start arguing about design in terms of Apple because you got the interface and

Apple because you got the interface and

Apple because you got the interface and you got that slick MacBook Air so my

you got that slick MacBook Air so my

you got that slick MacBook Air so my story like yours I guess is Steve Jobs I

story like yours I guess is Steve Jobs I

story like yours I guess is Steve Jobs I think was very profound I think like

think was very profound I think like

think was very profound I think like even at the office I think everybody in

even at the office I think everybody in

even at the office I think everybody in every setting the next day was a bit but

every setting the next day was a bit but

every setting the next day was a bit but but I don’t think it’s that superficial

but I don’t think it’s that superficial

but I don’t think it’s that superficial reason of just what Steve Jobs did in

reason of just what Steve Jobs did in

reason of just what Steve Jobs did in terms of media and everybody’s so

terms of media and everybody’s so

terms of media and everybody’s so passionate about songs and entertainment

passionate about songs and entertainment

passionate about songs and entertainment and sharing pictures with one another I

and sharing pictures with one another I

and sharing pictures with one another I think it was more like all you know

think it was more like all you know

think it was more like all you know remove the onion layers all the other

remove the onion layers all the other

remove the onion layers all the other sort of sub tangents stories that

sort of sub tangents stories that

sort of sub tangents stories that touched on Steve Jobs as life come back

touched on Steve Jobs as life come back

touched on Steve Jobs as life come back and passing that you’re like you know a

and passing that you’re like you know a

and passing that you’re like you know a lesson here there okay

lesson here there okay

lesson here there okay next week is going to be a special show

next week is going to be a special show

next week is going to be a special show of predictions so I don’t know the

of predictions so I don’t know the

of predictions so I don’t know the format I know it’s just going to be

format I know it’s just going to be

format I know it’s just going to be we’ll think of some format but it’ll be

we’ll think of some format but it’ll be

we’ll think of some format but it’ll be predictions for 2012 which is usually I

predictions for 2012 which is usually I

predictions for 2012 which is usually I guarantee that we don’t know what we’re

guarantee that we don’t know what we’re

guarantee that we don’t know what we’re talking about because like 90% of them

talking about because like 90% of them

talking about because like 90% of them don’t don’t pan out but it’ll be

don’t don’t pan out but it’ll be

don’t don’t pan out but it’ll be entertaining

entertaining

entertaining that’s that thank you very much so

that’s that thank you very much so

that’s that thank you very much so Twitter company of the Year well

Twitter company of the Year well

Twitter company of the Year well deserved see you next week

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