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Gender and Performance: The Sexual Paradox – Part 1


hi welcome to watchmojo.com

hi welcome to watchmojo.com I’m your host Leila I got to talk to

I’m your host Leila I got to talk to

I’m your host Leila I got to talk to psychologist Susan Pinker about her book

psychologist Susan Pinker about her book

psychologist Susan Pinker about her book the sexual paradox which reveals how

the sexual paradox which reveals how

the sexual paradox which reveals how learning and behavioral gaps between

learning and behavioral gaps between

learning and behavioral gaps between boys and girls in the classroom are

boys and girls in the classroom are

boys and girls in the classroom are reversed when they grow up and enter the

reversed when they grow up and enter the

reversed when they grow up and enter the workforce do you want to tell us how the

workforce do you want to tell us how the

workforce do you want to tell us how the sacrifices that women make in order to

sacrifices that women make in order to

sacrifices that women make in order to rise through the ranks and earn a lot of

rise through the ranks and earn a lot of

rise through the ranks and earn a lot of money are not sacrifices for men but

money are not sacrifices for men but

money are not sacrifices for men but more rewards there’s some women who are

more rewards there’s some women who are

more rewards there’s some women who are just as keenly competitive as men and

just as keenly competitive as men and

just as keenly competitive as men and will do anything to get that corner

will do anything to get that corner

will do anything to get that corner office and but I would say there are

office and but I would say there are

office and but I would say there are probably fewer women than there are men

probably fewer women than there are men

probably fewer women than there are men and some women who want who are

and some women who want who are

and some women who want who are ambitious and who want to succeed in

ambitious and who want to succeed in

ambitious and who want to succeed in very male oriented environments often do

very male oriented environments often do

very male oriented environments often do have to sacrifice their social networks

have to sacrifice their social networks

have to sacrifice their social networks or the time that they want to spend with

or the time that they want to spend with

or the time that they want to spend with their families whether this be with

their families whether this be with

their families whether this be with their children or with their parents

their children or with their parents

their children or with their parents how might nature and their there are the

how might nature and their there are the

how might nature and their there are the hormones that affect women interfere in

hormones that affect women interfere in

hormones that affect women interfere in their career ambitions I wouldn’t say

their career ambitions I wouldn’t say

their career ambitions I wouldn’t say that they interfere I would say that

that they interfere I would say that

that they interfere I would say that they interact more than interfere women

they interact more than interfere women

they interact more than interfere women who have small children at home will

who have small children at home will

who have small children at home will feel the desire to spend more time with

feel the desire to spend more time with

feel the desire to spend more time with them because it’s it’s agreeable and

them because it’s it’s agreeable and

them because it’s it’s agreeable and pleasing and it feels good

pleasing and it feels good

pleasing and it feels good so it’s not just an obligation and I

so it’s not just an obligation and I

so it’s not just an obligation and I talked about that in the sexual paradox

talked about that in the sexual paradox

talked about that in the sexual paradox that the hormone oxytocin which has been

that the hormone oxytocin which has been

that the hormone oxytocin which has been called the elixir of attachment it’s the

called the elixir of attachment it’s the

called the elixir of attachment it’s the hormone that’s involved it after when

hormone that’s involved it after when

hormone that’s involved it after when women not only when women reach out to

women not only when women reach out to

women not only when women reach out to other people to assist but it’s very

other people to assist but it’s very

other people to assist but it’s very much secreted during childbirth during

much secreted during childbirth during

much secreted during childbirth during sex during orgasm when women nurse their

sex during orgasm when women nurse their

sex during orgasm when women nurse their babies and when women take care of their

babies and when women take care of their

babies and when women take care of their babies and it has an analgesic effect

babies and it has an analgesic effect

babies and it has an analgesic effect it’s a painkiller makes women feel

it’s a painkiller makes women feel

it’s a painkiller makes women feel pretty good so it’s not just a question

pretty good so it’s not just a question

pretty good so it’s not just a question of the fact that they feel like they

of the fact that they feel like they

of the fact that they feel like they should do it but it feels good just

should do it but it feels good just

should do it but it feels good just understanding that men and women are

understanding that men and women are

understanding that men and women are not biologically equivalent what does

not biologically equivalent what does

not biologically equivalent what does that say about the workplace can we

that say about the workplace can we

that say about the workplace can we assume that it’s male oriented in terms

assume that it’s male oriented in terms

assume that it’s male oriented in terms of like if you have to have an extreme

of like if you have to have an extreme

of like if you have to have an extreme job to be considered productive or put

job to be considered productive or put

job to be considered productive or put in 80 to 100 hours of work to be up

in 80 to 100 hours of work to be up

in 80 to 100 hours of work to be up there this is more of a male oriented

there this is more of a male oriented

there this is more of a male oriented model well I would say a lot of

model well I would say a lot of

model well I would say a lot of workplaces were designed when there were

workplaces were designed when there were

workplaces were designed when there were no women at the bargaining table so they

no women at the bargaining table so they

no women at the bargaining table so they were designed when women weren’t there

were designed when women weren’t there

were designed when women weren’t there they weren’t designed for women’s career

they weren’t designed for women’s career

they weren’t designed for women’s career trajectories which tend to kind of have

trajectories which tend to kind of have

trajectories which tend to kind of have a ooh an up and down rhythm to them

a ooh an up and down rhythm to them

a ooh an up and down rhythm to them whereas men you know for the most part

whereas men you know for the most part

whereas men you know for the most part can pursue their goals without as many

can pursue their goals without as many

can pursue their goals without as many distractions and you know women are more

distractions and you know women are more

distractions and you know women are more likely to have kind of a patchwork

likely to have kind of a patchwork

likely to have kind of a patchwork resume and so I would say that not only

resume and so I would say that not only

resume and so I would say that not only are men some of these workplaces

are men some of these workplaces

are men some of these workplaces designed for the male model but it’s

designed for the male model but it’s

designed for the male model but it’s become even more so today which is a

become even more so today which is a

become even more so today which is a paradox because there are more women at

paradox because there are more women at

paradox because there are more women at work today than there used to be but the

work today than there used to be but the

work today than there used to be but the workplaces have become more extreme

workplaces have become more extreme

workplaces have become more extreme because the competition has become more

because the competition has become more

because the competition has become more extreme what can you tell us about the

extreme what can you tell us about the

extreme what can you tell us about the different approaches to competitions

different approaches to competitions

different approaches to competitions between the two sexes when experiments

between the two sexes when experiments

between the two sexes when experiments are done where we compare boys and girls

are done where we compare boys and girls

are done where we compare boys and girls for example in running races we find

for example in running races we find

for example in running races we find that when boys are paired against an

that when boys are paired against an

that when boys are paired against an opponent they run faster whereas when

opponent they run faster whereas when

opponent they run faster whereas when girls are paired against an opponent

girls are paired against an opponent

girls are paired against an opponent they run slower so competition Spurs

they run slower so competition Spurs

they run slower so competition Spurs boys on to perform better and

boys on to perform better and

boys on to perform better and competition has the opposite effect on

competition has the opposite effect on

competition has the opposite effect on most women once again we’re talking

most women once again we’re talking

most women once again we’re talking about averages and I found what was

about averages and I found what was

about averages and I found what was interesting about that study is that and

interesting about that study is that and

interesting about that study is that and the girls did best when they ran on the

the girls did best when they ran on the

the girls did best when they ran on the on their own they performed the best

on their own they performed the best

on their own they performed the best when they ran on their own and when they

when they ran on their own and when they

when they ran on their own and when they were paired against a boy who was of

were paired against a boy who was of

were paired against a boy who was of equal confidence could run just as fast

equal confidence could run just as fast

equal confidence could run just as fast they ran a bit slower but when they

they ran a bit slower but when they

they ran a bit slower but when they paired against another girl they ran the

paired against another girl they ran the

paired against another girl they ran the slowest of all

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