welcome to watchmojo.com i’m your host laila in our interview with the writers
laila in our interview with the writers
laila in our interview with the writers of transport revolutions moving people
of transport revolutions moving people
of transport revolutions moving people and freight without oil Anthony pearl
and freight without oil Anthony pearl
and freight without oil Anthony pearl and Richard Gilbert tell us about the
and Richard Gilbert tell us about the
and Richard Gilbert tell us about the relationship between transportation oil
relationship between transportation oil
relationship between transportation oil and conflict it’s not going to be a
and conflict it’s not going to be a
and conflict it’s not going to be a smooth curve in terms of escalating
smooth curve in terms of escalating
smooth curve in terms of escalating prices even though prices have been
prices even though prices have been
prices even though prices have been basically trending steadily upward over
basically trending steadily upward over
basically trending steadily upward over the last five years now at some point
the last five years now at some point
the last five years now at some point there could also be other political
there could also be other political
there could also be other political crises and that involves military
crises and that involves military
crises and that involves military conflict over the remaining oil
conflict over the remaining oil
conflict over the remaining oil resources at an international scale and
resources at an international scale and
resources at an international scale and at a local domestic scale that involves
at a local domestic scale that involves
at a local domestic scale that involves local conflict in competition for access
local conflict in competition for access
local conflict in competition for access to what might not be reliable supplies I
to what might not be reliable supplies I
to what might not be reliable supplies I mean when people’s SUVs become empty and
mean when people’s SUVs become empty and
mean when people’s SUVs become empty and they have to walk away from them or try
they have to walk away from them or try
they have to walk away from them or try and push them along the side of the road
and push them along the side of the road
and push them along the side of the road there’s going to be some potential for
there’s going to be some potential for
there’s going to be some potential for violence around filling stations people
violence around filling stations people
violence around filling stations people will try to push ahead in gas lines
will try to push ahead in gas lines
will try to push ahead in gas lines potentially as happened in the 1970s the
potentially as happened in the 1970s the
potentially as happened in the 1970s the difference today unfortunately in the
difference today unfortunately in the
difference today unfortunately in the United States is there’s a lot more
United States is there’s a lot more
United States is there’s a lot more weaponry out on the streets and that
weaponry out on the streets and that
weaponry out on the streets and that would prompt an adjustment by government
would prompt an adjustment by government
would prompt an adjustment by government away from just an open market I mean the
away from just an open market I mean the
away from just an open market I mean the idea of rationing can’t be ruled out
idea of rationing can’t be ruled out
idea of rationing can’t be ruled out under those kinds of circumstances once
under those kinds of circumstances once
under those kinds of circumstances once you put in rationing it can have some
you put in rationing it can have some
you put in rationing it can have some equity and give people basic aloft
equity and give people basic aloft
equity and give people basic aloft menaul of the innovation and efficiency
menaul of the innovation and efficiency
menaul of the innovation and efficiency that comes with a flexible pricing and
that comes with a flexible pricing and
that comes with a flexible pricing and market-based system is put on hold and
market-based system is put on hold and
market-based system is put on hold and it makes the adaptation to these
it makes the adaptation to these
it makes the adaptation to these transport revolutions even harder if we
transport revolutions even harder if we
transport revolutions even harder if we wait till we get to that crisis point we
wait till we get to that crisis point we
wait till we get to that crisis point we think about the United States being very
think about the United States being very
think about the United States being very dependent on Middle East oil and maybe
dependent on Middle East oil and maybe
dependent on Middle East oil and maybe have an even invaded Iraq because of
have an even invaded Iraq because of
have an even invaded Iraq because of that and suddenly being concerned about
that and suddenly being concerned about
that and suddenly being concerned about Iran because of that with China is
Iran because of that with China is
Iran because of that with China is actually more dependent on Middle East
actually more dependent on Middle East
actually more dependent on Middle East oil than the United States quite a bit
oil than the United States quite a bit
oil than the United States quite a bit more dependent in terms of getting
more dependent in terms of getting
more dependent in terms of getting imports from that part of the world also
imports from that part of the world also
imports from that part of the world also China which has historically had an
China which has historically had an
China which has historically had an armed forces that is very much focused
armed forces that is very much focused
armed forces that is very much focused on China and its borders is now very
on China and its borders is now very
on China and its borders is now very rapidly developing armed forces that
rapidly developing armed forces that
rapidly developing armed forces that have an international reach it is soon
have an international reach it is soon
have an international reach it is soon moving to have a navy as big as the
moving to have a navy as big as the
moving to have a navy as big as the United States Navy which is huge it is
United States Navy which is huge it is
United States Navy which is huge it is training its troops to operate in other
training its troops to operate in other
training its troops to operate in other parts of the world Africa and the Middle
parts of the world Africa and the Middle
parts of the world Africa and the Middle East the possibility of
East the possibility of
East the possibility of conflict over these resources that are
conflict over these resources that are
conflict over these resources that are vital both to China enter the u.s. is
vital both to China enter the u.s. is
vital both to China enter the u.s. is becoming increasingly high we’re not
becoming increasingly high we’re not
becoming increasingly high we’re not near there yet but the possibility is
near there yet but the possibility is
near there yet but the possibility is getting hired what we really need is
getting hired what we really need is
getting hired what we really need is this to come quite a way up on the
this to come quite a way up on the
this to come quite a way up on the international agenda so that there can
international agenda so that there can
international agenda so that there can be some rational discussion about it
be some rational discussion about it
be some rational discussion about it rather than it being the 800-pound
rather than it being the 800-pound
rather than it being the 800-pound gorilla in the corner that nobody’s
gorilla in the corner that nobody’s
gorilla in the corner that nobody’s talking about this matter of oil
talking about this matter of oil
talking about this matter of oil depletion the climate change agenda has
depletion the climate change agenda has
depletion the climate change agenda has taken over in Europe they’re just
taken over in Europe they’re just
taken over in Europe they’re just beginning to say the peak oil agenda
beginning to say the peak oil agenda
beginning to say the peak oil agenda should have equal time with the climate
should have equal time with the climate
should have equal time with the climate change agenda worldwide that needs to be
change agenda worldwide that needs to be
change agenda worldwide that needs to be done through we’ve put in some planning
done through we’ve put in some planning
done through we’ve put in some planning tools in the book that we think would be
tools in the book that we think would be
tools in the book that we think would be very valuable to redesign transportation
very valuable to redesign transportation
very valuable to redesign transportation systems based around energy right now
systems based around energy right now
systems based around energy right now the people who are being trained and
the people who are being trained and
the people who are being trained and coming out and we’re already practicing
coming out and we’re already practicing
coming out and we’re already practicing transport planning and policy analysis
transport planning and policy analysis
transport planning and policy analysis the ones who advised the politicians and
the ones who advised the politicians and
the ones who advised the politicians and gives them often we feel short-sighted
gives them often we feel short-sighted
gives them often we feel short-sighted or incorrect advice don’t really have
or incorrect advice don’t really have
or incorrect advice don’t really have the tools to understand the energy
the tools to understand the energy
the tools to understand the energy implications of oil depletion and what
implications of oil depletion and what
implications of oil depletion and what that means in terms of what has to
that means in terms of what has to
that means in terms of what has to change in the transport system
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