welcome to mojo at the movies I’m Eric and joining me today very special guest
and joining me today very special guest
and joining me today very special guest is actually a man who’s usually behind
is actually a man who’s usually behind
is actually a man who’s usually behind the camera
the camera
the camera it’s our esteemed director Mani he’s
it’s our esteemed director Mani he’s
it’s our esteemed director Mani he’s here with us he’s a huge huge comic book
here with us he’s a huge huge comic book
here with us he’s a huge huge comic book fan and a huge fan of superhero movies
fan and a huge fan of superhero movies
fan and a huge fan of superhero movies and well we’re talking about what movie
and well we’re talking about what movie
and well we’re talking about what movie today I’m talking about Black Panther
today I’m talking about Black Panther
today I’m talking about Black Panther movie I forced you to take me to I
movie I forced you to take me to I
movie I forced you to take me to I pretty much gave you kicking and
pretty much gave you kicking and
pretty much gave you kicking and screaming hands and the movie pretty
screaming hands and the movie pretty
screaming hands and the movie pretty good birthday pretty good it was pretty
good birthday pretty good it was pretty
good birthday pretty good it was pretty amazing actually
amazing actually
amazing actually so I mean you as a huge fan of comics
so I mean you as a huge fan of comics
so I mean you as a huge fan of comics and a huge fan of superheroes what did
and a huge fan of superheroes what did
and a huge fan of superheroes what did you think
you think
you think one thing I love when a you go into a
one thing I love when a you go into a
one thing I love when a you go into a comic book movie like this is when they
comic book movie like this is when they
comic book movie like this is when they get the lore and the world right and
get the lore and the world right and
get the lore and the world right and walking into this not knowing much about
walking into this not knowing much about
walking into this not knowing much about Black Panther I was completely immersed
Black Panther I was completely immersed
Black Panther I was completely immersed in a world and I kind of believed
in a world and I kind of believed
in a world and I kind of believed everything I loved him when he showed up
everything I loved him when he showed up
everything I loved him when he showed up in Civil War and I loved him in this I
in Civil War and I loved him in this I
in Civil War and I loved him in this I thought everything was really will
thought everything was really will
thought everything was really will handle Chadwick Boseman
handle Chadwick Boseman
handle Chadwick Boseman amazing performance is it my Panther and
amazing performance is it my Panther and
amazing performance is it my Panther and everybody in the overall movie all their
everybody in the overall movie all their
everybody in the overall movie all their characters everything was just spot-on
characters everything was just spot-on
characters everything was just spot-on amazing well credit has to go to Ryan
amazing well credit has to go to Ryan
amazing well credit has to go to Ryan Coogler the directors so here’s a guy
Coogler the directors so here’s a guy
Coogler the directors so here’s a guy who started he kind of came out of
who started he kind of came out of
who started he kind of came out of nowhere in Fruitvale station and then
nowhere in Fruitvale station and then
nowhere in Fruitvale station and then really cemented his you know his
really cemented his you know his
really cemented his you know his reputation as a go-to guy with Creed
reputation as a go-to guy with Creed
reputation as a go-to guy with Creed which was a great movie which was a
which was a great movie which was a
which was a great movie which was a great movie and also I’m pretty sure
great movie and also I’m pretty sure
great movie and also I’m pretty sure helped Michael B Jordan get the spot in
helped Michael B Jordan get the spot in
helped Michael B Jordan get the spot in this one
this one
this one yeah well Michael B Jordan has been in
yeah well Michael B Jordan has been in
yeah well Michael B Jordan has been in all those movies at this point yes yeah
all those movies at this point yes yeah
all those movies at this point yes yeah and so Ryan Coogler really created this
and so Ryan Coogler really created this
and so Ryan Coogler really created this this world that existed on paper in the
this world that existed on paper in the
this world that existed on paper in the comics but to you know to then translate
comics but to you know to then translate
comics but to you know to then translate that to the big screen and to work it
that to the big screen and to work it
that to the big screen and to work it such that it’s it works as a standalone
such that it’s it works as a standalone
such that it’s it works as a standalone movie but it also fits in the grander
movie but it also fits in the grander
movie but it also fits in the grander University in the Marvel Cinematic
University in the Marvel Cinematic
University in the Marvel Cinematic Universe and giving us like iconic
Universe and giving us like iconic
Universe and giving us like iconic locations from that world like warriors
locations from that world like warriors
locations from that world like warriors Falls which is where the King kind of
Falls which is where the King kind of
Falls which is where the King kind of does his trials and his challenges and
does his trials and his challenges and
does his trials and his challenges and just that was something really like
just that was something really like
just that was something really like really nice to see the way was set up
really nice to see the way was set up
really nice to see the way was set up the color palette in this movement was
the color palette in this movement was
the color palette in this movement was beautiful so different from like this
beautiful so different from like this
beautiful so different from like this all out of the Phase two Marvel movies
all out of the Phase two Marvel movies
all out of the Phase two Marvel movies had
had
had this dark gray kind of like depressive
this dark gray kind of like depressive
this dark gray kind of like depressive color palette and the first one was very
color palette and the first one was very
color palette and the first one was very comic book ii you know every movie had
comic book ii you know every movie had
comic book ii you know every movie had like a theme like we had a North’s
like a theme like we had a North’s
like a theme like we had a North’s mythology theme with the Thor we had the
mythology theme with the Thor we had the
mythology theme with the Thor we had the techy kind of like blue and teal color
techy kind of like blue and teal color
techy kind of like blue and teal color palette with Iron Man then we got this
palette with Iron Man then we got this
palette with Iron Man then we got this vibrant world war two epic with Captain
vibrant world war two epic with Captain
vibrant world war two epic with Captain America and then the guardians of the
America and then the guardians of the
America and then the guardians of the galaxy then guardians of the galaxy was
galaxy then guardians of the galaxy was
galaxy then guardians of the galaxy was just like attack on the senses with the
just like attack on the senses with the
just like attack on the senses with the music and in this movie too the music in
music and in this movie too the music in
music and in this movie too the music in this movie is well Kendrick Lamar I
this movie is well Kendrick Lamar I
this movie is well Kendrick Lamar I think was responsible for it’s not all
think was responsible for it’s not all
think was responsible for it’s not all his music but he kind of executive
his music but he kind of executive
his music but he kind of executive produced the the soundtrack great job
produced the the soundtrack great job
produced the the soundtrack great job and you know you mentioned the the look
and you know you mentioned the the look
and you know you mentioned the the look of the movie and especially that scene
of the movie and especially that scene
of the movie and especially that scene when they’re on the falls and yeah just
when they’re on the falls and yeah just
when they’re on the falls and yeah just you know you’re totally immersed in it I
you know you’re totally immersed in it I
you know you’re totally immersed in it I gotta also talk about the cast I mean
gotta also talk about the cast I mean
gotta also talk about the cast I mean not only chadwick boseman who does you
not only chadwick boseman who does you
not only chadwick boseman who does you know in my mind he is black panther
know in my mind he is black panther
know in my mind he is black panther nobody else could have ever been or will
nobody else could have ever been or will
nobody else could have ever been or will be a better black panther but I mean
be a better black panther but I mean
be a better black panther but I mean you’ve got a great cast you’ve got
you’ve got a great cast you’ve got
you’ve got a great cast you’ve got Angela Bassett you’ve got Michael B
Angela Bassett you’ve got Michael B
Angela Bassett you’ve got Michael B Jordan who we named who people are
Jordan who we named who people are
Jordan who we named who people are saying are or is the you know the the
saying are or is the you know the the
saying are or is the you know the the Ultimate Marvel villain yeah he plays a
Ultimate Marvel villain yeah he plays a
Ultimate Marvel villain yeah he plays a character called kill monger which is
character called kill monger which is
character called kill monger which is very important in the black panther lore
very important in the black panther lore
very important in the black panther lore and I find what they did with that
and I find what they did with that
and I find what they did with that character obviously like in all movies
character obviously like in all movies
character obviously like in all movies they took a few liberties with him but
they took a few liberties with him but
they took a few liberties with him but they really made him one of the most
they really made him one of the most
they really made him one of the most memorable characters and he’s kind of
memorable characters and he’s kind of
memorable characters and he’s kind of like all his actions are justified for
like all his actions are justified for
like all his actions are justified for him from his perspective and the way
him from his perspective and the way
him from his perspective and the way they do his character arc kind of really
they do his character arc kind of really
they do his character arc kind of really opens up this door that where you
opens up this door that where you
opens up this door that where you question is he really wrong or is he
question is he really wrong or is he
question is he really wrong or is he really right or is this the way it’s
really right or is this the way it’s
really right or is this the way it’s gotta go right there’s a lot of nuance
gotta go right there’s a lot of nuance
gotta go right there’s a lot of nuance there’s a lot of nuances in this movie
there’s a lot of nuances in this movie
there’s a lot of nuances in this movie it makes you think one thing is for sure
it makes you think one thing is for sure
it makes you think one thing is for sure this is a very important movie in that
this is a very important movie in that
this is a very important movie in that it’s empowering it’s a positive
it’s empowering it’s a positive
it’s empowering it’s a positive representation you know I came out of
representation you know I came out of
representation you know I came out of there feeling empowered and I felt good
there feeling empowered and I felt good
there feeling empowered and I felt good about it but I can only imagine what
about it but I can only imagine what
about it but I can only imagine what it’s like for for the black community to
it’s like for for the black community to
it’s like for for the black community to have this superhero character we’re not
have this superhero character we’re not
have this superhero character we’re not talking about blade who was a you know
talking about blade who was a you know
talking about blade who was a you know he was a vampire or spawn or espana
he was a vampire or spawn or espana
he was a vampire or spawn or espana these dark haired Lorne from hell this
these dark haired Lorne from hell this
these dark haired Lorne from hell this guy is basically you know he’s the king
guy is basically you know he’s the king
guy is basically you know he’s the king of an unconquered African nation and
of an unconquered African nation and
of an unconquered African nation and he’s more more skilled than Batman
he’s more more skilled than Batman
he’s more more skilled than Batman probably more technologically advanced
probably more technologically advanced
probably more technologically advanced than Iron Man and you know I I’m reading
than Iron Man and you know I I’m reading
than Iron Man and you know I I’m reading tweets by people who were saying finally
tweets by people who were saying finally
tweets by people who were saying finally I feel like I can identify with this
I feel like I can identify with this
I feel like I can identify with this character so this movie resonated very
character so this movie resonated very
character so this movie resonated very deeply with me and I’m sure it will with
deeply with me and I’m sure it will with
deeply with me and I’m sure it will with a general audience but for the black
a general audience but for the black
a general audience but for the black community I mean this is a huge moment
community I mean this is a huge moment
community I mean this is a huge moment because it’s it’s inspiring
because it’s it’s inspiring
because it’s it’s inspiring yeah and it’s it’s you know it’s it’s
yeah and it’s it’s you know it’s it’s
yeah and it’s it’s you know it’s it’s it’s a new wave of positive and it’s not
it’s a new wave of positive and it’s not
it’s a new wave of positive and it’s not banging you over the head with it I’m
banging you over the head with it I’m
banging you over the head with it I’m kind of like trying to get it in there
kind of like trying to get it in there
kind of like trying to get it in there it’s like it just exists and everything
it’s like it just exists and everything
it’s like it just exists and everything is and it’s amazing it’s the way the
is and it’s amazing it’s the way the
is and it’s amazing it’s the way the whole the holy the whole film was
whole the holy the whole film was
whole the holy the whole film was depicted in the way they interact with
depicted in the way they interact with
depicted in the way they interact with the rest of the world like Wakanda as a
the rest of the world like Wakanda as a
the rest of the world like Wakanda as a as such an amazing superpower as it the
as such an amazing superpower as it the
as such an amazing superpower as it the way it really interacts with everything
way it really interacts with everything
way it really interacts with everything else around it is pretty it’s very well
else around it is pretty it’s very well
else around it is pretty it’s very well executed
executed
executed I think you mentioned an interesting
I think you mentioned an interesting
I think you mentioned an interesting point that you know this was this was
point that you know this was this was
point that you know this was this was entertaining it was it didn’t hit you
entertaining it was it didn’t hit you
entertaining it was it didn’t hit you over the head
over the head
over the head it wasn’t cloaking its message in some
it wasn’t cloaking its message in some
it wasn’t cloaking its message in some kind of overwrought overdramatic thing
kind of overwrought overdramatic thing
kind of overwrought overdramatic thing it’s a blockbuster it’s fun and the
it’s a blockbuster it’s fun and the
it’s a blockbuster it’s fun and the message is the movie itself yes the fact
message is the movie itself yes the fact
message is the movie itself yes the fact that we can have fun and we can be
that we can have fun and we can be
that we can have fun and we can be positive and and everybody can feel
positive and and everybody can feel
positive and and everybody can feel represented and and you also you know
represented and and you also you know
represented and and you also you know when we were talking before you
when we were talking before you
when we were talking before you mentioned women and and the women are
mentioned women and and the women are
mentioned women and and the women are badass in this movie my favorite
badass in this movie my favorite
badass in this movie my favorite character is actually Ocoee who is the
character is actually Ocoee who is the
character is actually Ocoee who is the general of the dorinha lodge which is
general of the dorinha lodge which is
general of the dorinha lodge which is like Black Panthers personal bodyguard
like Black Panthers personal bodyguard
like Black Panthers personal bodyguard which he doesn’t need but it’s cool that
which he doesn’t need but it’s cool that
which he doesn’t need but it’s cool that he has it and she just every scene she’s
he has it and she just every scene she’s
he has it and she just every scene she’s in she owns it and I was blown away I
in she owns it and I was blown away I
in she owns it and I was blown away I think I was telling in the theater Mike
think I was telling in the theater Mike
think I was telling in the theater Mike that’s my favorite character he’s my
that’s my favorite character he’s my
that’s my favorite character he’s my favorite and Lupita Nyong’o she also I
favorite and Lupita Nyong’o she also I
favorite and Lupita Nyong’o she also I mean I’ll motion in this movie it’s
mean I’ll motion in this movie it’s
mean I’ll motion in this movie it’s almost like they were cooler than the
almost like they were cooler than the
almost like they were cooler than the guys that they actually were waiters
guys that they actually were waiters
guys that they actually were waiters sister Cherie was so smart which in my
sister Cherie was so smart which in my
sister Cherie was so smart which in my books I think she’s smarter than Tony
books I think she’s smarter than Tony
books I think she’s smarter than Tony Stark which I think I would love to see
Stark which I think I would love to see
Stark which I think I would love to see maybe in infinity war if we could see
maybe in infinity war if we could see
maybe in infinity war if we could see those two characters kind of talk tech
those two characters kind of talk tech
those two characters kind of talk tech compare the technology from Wakanda and
compare the technology from Wakanda and
compare the technology from Wakanda and what Steve Rogers Steve Rogers that’s
what Steve Rogers Steve Rogers that’s
what Steve Rogers Steve Rogers that’s Captain America Tony Stark has been
Captain America Tony Stark has been
Captain America Tony Stark has been doing I’m pretty excited for that
doing I’m pretty excited for that
doing I’m pretty excited for that well that’s the thing is that we don’t
well that’s the thing is that we don’t
well that’s the thing is that we don’t want to give away any spoilers right
want to give away any spoilers right
want to give away any spoilers right this is yes so there’s so much that we
this is yes so there’s so much that we
this is yes so there’s so much that we want to say this is so much boat again
want to say this is so much boat again
want to say this is so much boat again but I’m wondering how you think this
but I’m wondering how you think this
but I’m wondering how you think this fits into the larger Marvel Cinematic
fits into the larger Marvel Cinematic
fits into the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe because I mean essentially
Universe because I mean essentially
Universe because I mean essentially Black Panther was one of the original
Black Panther was one of the original
Black Panther was one of the original Avengers he’s one of the early
Avengers he’s one of the early
Avengers he’s one of the early not one of the originals but he’s one of
not one of the originals but he’s one of
not one of the originals but he’s one of the earlier ones and I just love the
the earlier ones and I just love the
the earlier ones and I just love the fact that now in Marvel were seeing
fact that now in Marvel were seeing
fact that now in Marvel were seeing Phase three and we’re kind of seeing
Phase three and we’re kind of seeing
Phase three and we’re kind of seeing which heroes will kind of like head and
which heroes will kind of like head and
which heroes will kind of like head and be in charge of Phase three and have
be in charge of Phase three and have
be in charge of Phase three and have bigger roles obviously phase one was the
bigger roles obviously phase one was the
bigger roles obviously phase one was the Iron Man Thor in Captain America and in
Iron Man Thor in Captain America and in
Iron Man Thor in Captain America and in this one we see that they’re putting a
this one we see that they’re putting a
this one we see that they’re putting a lot of concentration on ant-man is
lot of concentration on ant-man is
lot of concentration on ant-man is playing a bigger role obviously Black
playing a bigger role obviously Black
playing a bigger role obviously Black Panther is playing a bigger role the
Panther is playing a bigger role the
Panther is playing a bigger role the guardians are playing a bigger role and
guardians are playing a bigger role and
guardians are playing a bigger role and we’re getting Captain Marvel soon so I
we’re getting Captain Marvel soon so I
we’re getting Captain Marvel soon so I think that they’re they’re just
think that they’re they’re just
think that they’re they’re just expanding the universe and they’ve built
expanding the universe and they’ve built
expanding the universe and they’ve built us up these characters but they’ve given
us up these characters but they’ve given
us up these characters but they’ve given us such satisfying character arcs with
us such satisfying character arcs with
us such satisfying character arcs with the other ones that it’s not necessary
the other ones that it’s not necessary
the other ones that it’s not necessary for us to try to like hold on like I
for us to try to like hold on like I
for us to try to like hold on like I think we’re DC is kind of weak in that
think we’re DC is kind of weak in that
think we’re DC is kind of weak in that aspect is that Batman everything Batman
aspect is that Batman everything Batman
aspect is that Batman everything Batman has to be in everything if there’s no
has to be in everything if there’s no
has to be in everything if there’s no Batman there’s no DC Universe right
Batman there’s no DC Universe right
Batman there’s no DC Universe right right which I find is a bit silly and
right which I find is a bit silly and
right which I find is a bit silly and here it’s like here’s an amazing
here it’s like here’s an amazing
here it’s like here’s an amazing character here’s us taking care and
character here’s us taking care and
character here’s us taking care and giving this character what he deserves
giving this character what he deserves
giving this character what he deserves and he’s just as relatable as a Captain
and he’s just as relatable as a Captain
and he’s just as relatable as a Captain America or a Tony Stark or a Thor you
America or a Tony Stark or a Thor you
America or a Tony Stark or a Thor you know like it’s amazing and it fits into
know like it’s amazing and it fits into
know like it’s amazing and it fits into the Cinematic Universe perfectly it
the Cinematic Universe perfectly it
the Cinematic Universe perfectly it doesn’t bounce back in time it’s such a
doesn’t bounce back in time it’s such a
doesn’t bounce back in time it’s such a perfect little chapter and even if you
perfect little chapter and even if you
perfect little chapter and even if you cut out everything that we learned in
cut out everything that we learned in
cut out everything that we learned in Civil War and everything else the movie
Civil War and everything else the movie
Civil War and everything else the movie on its own it’s a standalone yes a very
on its own it’s a standalone yes a very
on its own it’s a standalone yes a very solid and it opens up to a sequel
solid and it opens up to a sequel
solid and it opens up to a sequel everything you know like obviously these
everything you know like obviously these
everything you know like obviously these movies are done in three it’s not a big
movies are done in three it’s not a big
movies are done in three it’s not a big surprise that oh there might be another
surprise that oh there might be another
surprise that oh there might be another one there’s gonna be another one yeah so
one there’s gonna be another one yeah so
one there’s gonna be another one yeah so you know if you think about it Marvel
you know if you think about it Marvel
you know if you think about it Marvel husband have been very smart because
husband have been very smart because
husband have been very smart because they could have as you said just gone
they could have as you said just gone
they could have as you said just gone with they’re a listers but they’ve
with they’re a listers but they’ve
with they’re a listers but they’ve managed to with guardians of the galaxy
managed to with guardians of the galaxy
managed to with guardians of the galaxy with ant-man with this movie they’ve
with ant-man with this movie they’ve
with ant-man with this movie they’ve created as as entertaining if not more
created as as entertaining if not more
created as as entertaining if not more entertaining you know these offshoots
entertaining you know these offshoots
entertaining you know these offshoots that I think are gonna expand the
that I think are gonna expand the
that I think are gonna expand the universe that much more yeah big-time I
universe that much more yeah big-time I
universe that much more yeah big-time I mean this is the next step than Marvel’s
mean this is the next step than Marvel’s
mean this is the next step than Marvel’s taking that is they’re pretty much
taking that is they’re pretty much
taking that is they’re pretty much saying like we understand our characters
saying like we understand our characters
saying like we understand our characters we believe in our characters and we
we believe in our characters and we
we believe in our characters and we believe in giving good stories good
believe in giving good stories good
believe in giving good stories good adventures just like when you pick up a
adventures just like when you pick up a
adventures just like when you pick up a comic book and you can connect with
comic book and you can connect with
comic book and you can connect with anyone that these movies and they’re
anyone that these movies and they’re
anyone that these movies and they’re gonna be just as entertaining as the
gonna be just as entertaining as the
gonna be just as entertaining as the last movie sometimes we’ll get a Thor
last movie sometimes we’ll get a Thor
last movie sometimes we’ll get a Thor the second Thor but I mean
the second Thor but I mean
the second Thor but I mean it’s forgivable because right they come
it’s forgivable because right they come
it’s forgivable because right they come back and then you get sore ragnarok and
back and then you get sore ragnarok and
back and then you get sore ragnarok and then we get neurotic or we get a Winter
then we get neurotic or we get a Winter
then we get neurotic or we get a Winter Soldier which is my favorite movie of
Soldier which is my favorite movie of
Soldier which is my favorite movie of every Marvel movie that was made is that
every Marvel movie that was made is that
every Marvel movie that was made is that one so where does this fit into Kida can
one so where does this fit into Kida can
one so where does this fit into Kida can I ask you that of Chef of all the Marvel
I ask you that of Chef of all the Marvel
I ask you that of Chef of all the Marvel movies where does Black Panther fit in
movies where does Black Panther fit in
movies where does Black Panther fit in for you I think it’s a strong like I
for you I think it’s a strong like I
for you I think it’s a strong like I think it’s like a second whoa I think
think it’s like a second whoa I think
think it’s like a second whoa I think it’s like a second as much as I enjoyed
it’s like a second as much as I enjoyed
it’s like a second as much as I enjoyed the entire like the whole I think it’s
the entire like the whole I think it’s
the entire like the whole I think it’s like a balance between this and age of
like a balance between this and age of
like a balance between this and age of Ultron for me was one of my favorites
Ultron for me was one of my favorites
Ultron for me was one of my favorites because Ultron is one of my favorite
because Ultron is one of my favorite
because Ultron is one of my favorite type of Marvel villains cuz he’s kind of
type of Marvel villains cuz he’s kind of
type of Marvel villains cuz he’s kind of like a mistake villain who just realized
like a mistake villain who just realized
like a mistake villain who just realized he’s better than everybody and he’s like
he’s better than everybody and he’s like
he’s better than everybody and he’s like you know what I’m just gonna take over
you know what I’m just gonna take over
you know what I’m just gonna take over you guys seem to be doing a horrible job
you guys seem to be doing a horrible job
you guys seem to be doing a horrible job at being mankind some take over I’m
at being mankind some take over I’m
at being mankind some take over I’m still waiting for them to get the Hulk
still waiting for them to get the Hulk
still waiting for them to get the Hulk right but listen there’s there’s so much
right but listen there’s there’s so much
right but listen there’s there’s so much stuff that we want to say but we don’t
stuff that we want to say but we don’t
stuff that we want to say but we don’t want to spoil anything so you know go
want to spoil anything so you know go
want to spoil anything so you know go check out the movie let us know what you
check out the movie let us know what you
check out the movie let us know what you think in the comments and we’ll be back
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think in the comments and we’ll be back with more thanks many thanks Eric thank
with more thanks many thanks Eric thank
with more thanks many thanks Eric thank you
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