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Why I Joined the Circus After Finishing my PhD | Chris Gatti | TEDxUofM


this one kid I knew when I was growing

this one kid I knew when I was growing up he’s one of those kids that was

up he’s one of those kids that was

up he’s one of those kids that was always following the straight normal

always following the straight normal

always following the straight normal never stepping out of line never trying

never stepping out of line never trying

never stepping out of line never trying to draw attention to himself he saw

to draw attention to himself he saw

to draw attention to himself he saw early on that you try hard in school you

early on that you try hard in school you

early on that you try hard in school you go to college find the major you like

go to college find the major you like

go to college find the major you like find a job you did it and you do that

find a job you did it and you do that

find a job you did it and you do that for 30-some odd years and that’s what he

for 30-some odd years and that’s what he

for 30-some odd years and that’s what he set out to do so he goes to college and

set out to do so he goes to college and

set out to do so he goes to college and liking math and science he decides to

liking math and science he decides to

liking math and science he decides to major in mechanical engineering and he

major in mechanical engineering and he

major in mechanical engineering and he likes it it’s interesting it’s engaging

likes it it’s interesting it’s engaging

likes it it’s interesting it’s engaging for a few years he’s about to graduate

for a few years he’s about to graduate

for a few years he’s about to graduate and he starts questioning himself he

and he starts questioning himself he

and he starts questioning himself he starts wondering if he went to that just

starts wondering if he went to that just

starts wondering if he went to that just because he was good in math and science

because he was good in math and science

because he was good in math and science he was wondering if maybe changing

he was wondering if maybe changing

he was wondering if maybe changing fields might help and so he went to

fields might help and so he went to

fields might help and so he went to research start working a lab doing

research start working a lab doing

research start working a lab doing computational biomechanics it was

computational biomechanics it was

computational biomechanics it was interesting it was new it was a new way

interesting it was new it was a new way

interesting it was new it was a new way of working and thinking he was engaged

of working and thinking he was engaged

of working and thinking he was engaged he was really productive if you worked

he was really productive if you worked

he was really productive if you worked on a whole bunch of projects he

on a whole bunch of projects he

on a whole bunch of projects he published a lot sometimes I’d ask him

published a lot sometimes I’d ask him

published a lot sometimes I’d ask him how’s the research going his response

how’s the research going his response

how’s the research going his response was it’s good

the past is the time and so I think to

the past is the time and so I think to myself like is that really what you want

myself like is that really what you want

myself like is that really what you want him doing but he’s stuck with it and so

him doing but he’s stuck with it and so

him doing but he’s stuck with it and so he was wondering if changing feels again

he was wondering if changing feels again

he was wondering if changing feels again would help sort of Jewry spark his

would help sort of Jewry spark his

would help sort of Jewry spark his interest

interest

interest this time he goes for a PhD and machine

this time he goes for a PhD and machine

this time he goes for a PhD and machine learning artificial intelligence and

learning artificial intelligence and

learning artificial intelligence and data analysis and again it’s interesting

data analysis and again it’s interesting

data analysis and again it’s interesting it’s new and he’s engaged again he’s

it’s new and he’s engaged again he’s

it’s new and he’s engaged again he’s super productive working on a whole

super productive working on a whole

super productive working on a whole bunch of projects in addition to his

bunch of projects in addition to his

bunch of projects in addition to his dissertation work he’s about to graduate

dissertation work he’s about to graduate

dissertation work he’s about to graduate and again his interest starts afaid

and again his interest starts afaid

and again his interest starts afaid doing that for so long that it’s sort of

doing that for so long that it’s sort of

doing that for so long that it’s sort of the norm it’s sort of the easy route

the norm it’s sort of the easy route

the norm it’s sort of the easy route he’s still wondering if he’s going down

he’s still wondering if he’s going down

he’s still wondering if he’s going down that route just because he likes math

that route just because he likes math

that route just because he likes math and science though this other kid I knew

and science though this other kid I knew

and science though this other kid I knew he was athletic and energetic and his

he was athletic and energetic and his

he was athletic and energetic and his parents put him into gymnastics around

parents put him into gymnastics around

parents put him into gymnastics around the age of four just like any other kid

the age of four just like any other kid

the age of four just like any other kid at that age he wanted to go to the

at that age he wanted to go to the

at that age he wanted to go to the Olympics he loved the gym but he loved

Olympics he loved the gym but he loved

Olympics he loved the gym but he loved the gym for a reason that was very

the gym for a reason that was very

the gym for a reason that was very different than many other kids see he

different than many other kids see he

different than many other kids see he had a stutter and the stutter was pretty

had a stutter and the stutter was pretty

had a stutter and the stutter was pretty bad he would get caught up on words and

bad he would get caught up on words and

bad he would get caught up on words and sounds he’d end up holding his breath

sounds he’d end up holding his breath

sounds he’d end up holding his breath exhaust himself and then have to start

exhaust himself and then have to start

exhaust himself and then have to start all over again he was embarrassed to

all over again he was embarrassed to

all over again he was embarrassed to speak in who’s embarrassed for anyone to

speak in who’s embarrassed for anyone to

speak in who’s embarrassed for anyone to listen to him speak and so the gym it

listen to him speak and so the gym it

listen to him speak and so the gym it was his place where he didn’t have to

was his place where he didn’t have to

was his place where he didn’t have to worry and he could be a kid in high

worry and he could be a kid in high

worry and he could be a kid in high school in college he was on his way to

school in college he was on his way to

school in college he was on his way to doing really good things in gymnastics

doing really good things in gymnastics

doing really good things in gymnastics in high school he was a national

in high school he was a national

in high school he was a national champion on rings in college he was well

champion on rings in college he was well

champion on rings in college he was well ranked in the country and his team like

ranked in the country and his team like

ranked in the country and his team like that him captain three years in a row he

that him captain three years in a row he

that him captain three years in a row he started to struggle though when he was

started to struggle though when he was

started to struggle though when he was competing

competing

competing he was inconsistent injuries he had

he was inconsistent injuries he had

he was inconsistent injuries he had about seven surgeries his love

about seven surgeries his love

about seven surgeries his love gymnastics started to fade a little bit

gymnastics started to fade a little bit

gymnastics started to fade a little bit except as long as you could get in the

except as long as you could get in the

except as long as you could get in the gym and just train he was happy

gym and just train he was happy

gym and just train he was happy now most cute most guys finish college

now most cute most guys finish college

now most cute most guys finish college and they’re happy to hang up their grips

and they’re happy to hang up their grips

and they’re happy to hang up their grips this guy he was happy to be done

this guy he was happy to be done

this guy he was happy to be done competing but he just stayed in the gym

competing but he just stayed in the gym

competing but he just stayed in the gym and trained that was still the place

and trained that was still the place

and trained that was still the place where he felt most comfortable and free

where he felt most comfortable and free

where he felt most comfortable and free and he could relax even after all those

and he could relax even after all those

and he could relax even after all those years those two stories are stories of

years those two stories are stories of

years those two stories are stories of two very different people one person he

two very different people one person he

two very different people one person he went down this path just because he was

went down this path just because he was

went down this path just because he was good at something not necessarily

good at something not necessarily

good at something not necessarily because he loved it

because he loved it

because he loved it felt like he didn’t have freedom when in

felt like he didn’t have freedom when in

felt like he didn’t have freedom when in fact he did and the other he did

fact he did and the other he did

fact he did and the other he did something that he didn’t care what

something that he didn’t care what

something that he didn’t care what anyone else thought and he was handed

anyone else thought and he was handed

anyone else thought and he was handed something that made him feel trapped and

something that made him feel trapped and

something that made him feel trapped and yet he found that freedom and something

yet he found that freedom and something

yet he found that freedom and something else and before I go on I should clarify

else and before I go on I should clarify

else and before I go on I should clarify some things those two stories I just

some things those two stories I just

some things those two stories I just told you are actually stories from my

told you are actually stories from my

told you are actually stories from my life where I was the person that felt

life where I was the person that felt

life where I was the person that felt pushed down the engineering track and I

pushed down the engineering track and I

pushed down the engineering track and I was also the kid who’s hiding from the

was also the kid who’s hiding from the

was also the kid who’s hiding from the world in the gym second thing is that I

world in the gym second thing is that I

world in the gym second thing is that I haven’t finished the stories see some

haven’t finished the stories see some

haven’t finished the stories see some kids don’t like school because it’s hard

kids don’t like school because it’s hard

kids don’t like school because it’s hard it’s not engaging me I didn’t like

it’s not engaging me I didn’t like

it’s not engaging me I didn’t like school because I had to speak and what

school because I had to speak and what

school because I had to speak and what does that do it made me love the gym I

does that do it made me love the gym I

does that do it made me love the gym I was at one place where I could feel like

was at one place where I could feel like

was at one place where I could feel like a kid I could relax and I didn’t feel

a kid I could relax and I didn’t feel

a kid I could relax and I didn’t feel limited those used after I graduated

limited those used after I graduated

limited those used after I graduated with my bachelor’s in mechanical

with my bachelor’s in mechanical

with my bachelor’s in mechanical engineering might’ve seemed like I

engineering might’ve seemed like I

engineering might’ve seemed like I wasn’t doing a whole lot maybe I was

wasn’t doing a whole lot maybe I was

wasn’t doing a whole lot maybe I was just going through the grind of research

just going through the grind of research

just going through the grind of research and work maybe I was just wasting my

and work maybe I was just wasting my

and work maybe I was just wasting my time in the gym after competing those

time in the gym after competing those

time in the gym after competing those years were actually really important

years were actually really important

years were actually really important though in that time I found a really

though in that time I found a really

though in that time I found a really important mentor and I wanted to love

important mentor and I wanted to love

important mentor and I wanted to love research I presented a whole lot and I

research I presented a whole lot and I

research I presented a whole lot and I interacted with a whole bunch of people

interacted with a whole bunch of people

interacted with a whole bunch of people and I got to the point where my speech

and I got to the point where my speech

and I got to the point where my speech was no longer limiting what I decided to

was no longer limiting what I decided to

was no longer limiting what I decided to do in life and in the gym and for

do in life and in the gym and for

do in life and in the gym and for after I finished competing I just

after I finished competing I just

after I finished competing I just trained on my own and I learned how to

trained on my own and I learned how to

trained on my own and I learned how to play and break free from the mould of

play and break free from the mould of

play and break free from the mould of gymnastics when I was about to finish my

gymnastics when I was about to finish my

gymnastics when I was about to finish my PhD I was still pulled in two directions

PhD I was still pulled in two directions

PhD I was still pulled in two directions one going down that path for something I

one going down that path for something I

one going down that path for something I was good at

was good at

was good at except I didn’t really love and then

except I didn’t really love and then

except I didn’t really love and then something that I actually did love and

something that I actually did love and

something that I actually did love and then at the age of 32 I started

then at the age of 32 I started

then at the age of 32 I started listening to myself I made a demo tape

listening to myself I made a demo tape

listening to myself I made a demo tape and then on a Monday afternoon I got a

and then on a Monday afternoon I got a

and then on a Monday afternoon I got a call from Cirque du Soleil offering me a

call from Cirque du Soleil offering me a

call from Cirque du Soleil offering me a contract for an artist on a Tony show in

contract for an artist on a Tony show in

contract for an artist on a Tony show in South America that Tuesday I defended my

South America that Tuesday I defended my

South America that Tuesday I defended my thesis that Friday is on the contract

thesis that Friday is on the contract

thesis that Friday is on the contract about two weeks later

about two weeks later

about two weeks later [Applause]

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[Music] [Applause]

[Applause]

[Applause] about two weeks later I was up in

about two weeks later I was up in

about two weeks later I was up in Montreal training and then seven weeks

Montreal training and then seven weeks

Montreal training and then seven weeks later I flew to Santiago Chile to start

later I flew to Santiago Chile to start

later I flew to Santiago Chile to start performing so I got to the circus after

performing so I got to the circus after

performing so I got to the circus after about 10 years in academia and I know

about 10 years in academia and I know

about 10 years in academia and I know there’s some things right off the bat

first is it no one cares about your

first is it no one cares about your credentials no one cares

credentials no one cares

credentials no one cares where you went to school what degrees

where you went to school what degrees

where you went to school what degrees you have or how many papers you

you have or how many papers you

you have or how many papers you published what matters is if you work

published what matters is if you work

published what matters is if you work hard if you’re good on stage and you’re

hard if you’re good on stage and you’re

hard if you’re good on stage and you’re a good person second thing is that for a

a good person second thing is that for a

a good person second thing is that for a little bit odd and not normal it’s a

little bit odd and not normal it’s a

little bit odd and not normal it’s a good thing third thing is that my mind

good thing third thing is that my mind

good thing third thing is that my mind still thought analytically and I started

still thought analytically and I started

still thought analytically and I started seeing all these problems where my

seeing all these problems where my

seeing all these problems where my background in biomechanics machine

background in biomechanics machine

background in biomechanics machine learning and data analysis that could be

learning and data analysis that could be

learning and data analysis that could be applied to contribute Iran was one of

applied to contribute Iran was one of

applied to contribute Iran was one of those problems where I was still

those problems where I was still

those problems where I was still performing had to developed an algorithm

performing had to developed an algorithm

performing had to developed an algorithm for automatically scheduling circus

for automatically scheduling circus

for automatically scheduling circus artists

circ has taught me something about the

circ has taught me something about the click is not working all right

click is not working all right

click is not working all right that’s right circus taught me about also

that’s right circus taught me about also

that’s right circus taught me about also being an athlete something that I didn’t

being an athlete something that I didn’t

being an athlete something that I didn’t expect when I was competing I could

expect when I was competing I could

expect when I was competing I could never get in the right headspace now I

never get in the right headspace now I

never get in the right headspace now I always psych myself out instead I

always psych myself out instead I

always psych myself out instead I psyched myself up a circus after I got

psyched myself up a circus after I got

psyched myself up a circus after I got over the initial jitters of being on

over the initial jitters of being on

over the initial jitters of being on stage my head was always in our minds of

stage my head was always in our minds of

stage my head was always in our minds of play and fun and not perfection and that

play and fun and not perfection and that

play and fun and not perfection and that whatever I did on stage it would be just

whatever I did on stage it would be just

whatever I did on stage it would be just fine and so what I could never figure

fine and so what I could never figure

fine and so what I could never figure out in 20 years of gymnastics in the

out in 20 years of gymnastics in the

out in 20 years of gymnastics in the circus I’ve figured out in just over one

circus I’ve figured out in just over one

circus I’ve figured out in just over one year this one time when we were

year this one time when we were

year this one time when we were performing we’re down in Mexico we had a

performing we’re down in Mexico we had a

performing we’re down in Mexico we had a break of about 10 days in between cities

break of about 10 days in between cities

break of about 10 days in between cities and a few of us went over to these

and a few of us went over to these

and a few of us went over to these coasts of the Yucatan and so a few of us

coasts of the Yucatan and so a few of us

coasts of the Yucatan and so a few of us are sitting on a beach and we started

are sitting on a beach and we started

are sitting on a beach and we started talking about what we would do later

talking about what we would do later

talking about what we would do later that year after the show closed and it

that year after the show closed and it

that year after the show closed and it wasn’t something I had really been

wasn’t something I had really been

wasn’t something I had really been thinking about at that time but at that

thinking about at that time but at that

thinking about at that time but at that moment sitting on the beach it was

moment sitting on the beach it was

moment sitting on the beach it was totally clear

handstands why handstands make people

handstands why handstands make people happy see it doesn’t matter if they’re

happy see it doesn’t matter if they’re

happy see it doesn’t matter if they’re doing handstands or they’re just

doing handstands or they’re just

doing handstands or they’re just watching me training apart it makes

watching me training apart it makes

watching me training apart it makes people happy and for me it’s much more

people happy and for me it’s much more

people happy and for me it’s much more than just helping people get upside down

than just helping people get upside down

than just helping people get upside down it’s about helping them achieve

it’s about helping them achieve

it’s about helping them achieve something that they didn’t think they

something that they didn’t think they

something that they didn’t think they can do or they don’t even know how to

can do or they don’t even know how to

can do or they don’t even know how to approach it’s about helping them achieve

approach it’s about helping them achieve

approach it’s about helping them achieve something that can be meditative for the

something that can be meditative for the

something that can be meditative for the mind and strengthening for the body it’s

mind and strengthening for the body it’s

mind and strengthening for the body it’s about passing on my knowledge and

about passing on my knowledge and

about passing on my knowledge and experience and most of all it’s about

experience and most of all it’s about

experience and most of all it’s about connecting with people which is

connecting with people which is

connecting with people which is basically what I tried to avoid for my

basically what I tried to avoid for my

basically what I tried to avoid for my entire life a lot of people ask me if

entire life a lot of people ask me if

entire life a lot of people ask me if I’m if I’m still using my background and

I’m if I’m still using my background and

I’m if I’m still using my background and research and I am just not in a

research and I am just not in a

research and I am just not in a traditional way

traditional way

traditional way now unfocused on handstands and circus

now unfocused on handstands and circus

now unfocused on handstands and circus problems and right now it’s totally out

problems and right now it’s totally out

problems and right now it’s totally out of my interests and unfunded but I’m

of my interests and unfunded but I’m

of my interests and unfunded but I’m certain it’s gonna lead to impactful

certain it’s gonna lead to impactful

certain it’s gonna lead to impactful work my freshman year in college I was I

work my freshman year in college I was I

work my freshman year in college I was I was asked what I wanted to be doing in

was asked what I wanted to be doing in

was asked what I wanted to be doing in 10 years and my answer was actually

10 years and my answer was actually

10 years and my answer was actually supposed to be a bit more comical than

supposed to be a bit more comical than

supposed to be a bit more comical than serious it was engineered by a circus

serious it was engineered by a circus

serious it was engineered by a circus performer by night and so it actually

performer by night and so it actually

performer by night and so it actually took me about 14 years but that’s

took me about 14 years but that’s

took me about 14 years but that’s basically where I ended up for a lot of

basically where I ended up for a lot of

basically where I ended up for a lot of my life I didn’t know exactly what I

my life I didn’t know exactly what I

my life I didn’t know exactly what I wanted to do I felt pulled down this

wanted to do I felt pulled down this

wanted to do I felt pulled down this path where maybe I should be doing

path where maybe I should be doing

path where maybe I should be doing something that I was good at instead of

something that I was good at instead of

something that I was good at instead of something that I totally loved along the

something that I totally loved along the

something that I totally loved along the way I had a lot of good experiences and

way I had a lot of good experiences and

way I had a lot of good experiences and a lot of bad experiences and each one of

a lot of bad experiences and each one of

a lot of bad experiences and each one of those taught me something has gotten you

those taught me something has gotten you

those taught me something has gotten you where I am today if you’re wondering

where I am today if you’re wondering

where I am today if you’re wondering what you should be doing with your life

so that I don’t have an answer what I

so that I don’t have an answer what I will say is that I think you should be

will say is that I think you should be

will say is that I think you should be questioning what you are doing and why

questioning what you are doing and why

questioning what you are doing and why and then you should be listening

and then you should be listening

and then you should be listening yourself and in the meantime if you

yourself and in the meantime if you

yourself and in the meantime if you don’t have answers to those things still

don’t have answers to those things still

don’t have answers to those things still stay productive and everything that you

stay productive and everything that you

stay productive and everything that you are doing is gonna be helping you

are doing is gonna be helping you

are doing is gonna be helping you handstands makes me happy maybe it’s

handstands makes me happy maybe it’s

handstands makes me happy maybe it’s just a matter of time until you find

just a matter of time until you find

just a matter of time until you find your hansteen thank you

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