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Why do we Hate Whistle-Blowers? | Kelly Richmond Pope | TEDxDePaulUniversity


how many of us have ever seen something

how many of us have ever seen something thought that we should report it but

thought that we should report it but

thought that we should report it but decided not to and not that I need to

decided not to and not that I need to

decided not to and not that I need to see a show of hands but I’m sure this

see a show of hands but I’m sure this

see a show of hands but I’m sure this has happened to someone in this room

has happened to someone in this room

has happened to someone in this room before

before

before in fact when this question was asked to

in fact when this question was asked to

in fact when this question was asked to a group of employees 46% of them

a group of employees 46% of them

a group of employees 46% of them responded by saying that they had seen

responded by saying that they had seen

responded by saying that they had seen something and decided not to report it

something and decided not to report it

something and decided not to report it so if you raised your hand or quietly

so if you raised your hand or quietly

so if you raised your hand or quietly raised your hand don’t feel bad you’re

raised your hand don’t feel bad you’re

raised your hand don’t feel bad you’re not alone this message of if you see

not alone this message of if you see

not alone this message of if you see something to say something it’s really

something to say something it’s really

something to say something it’s really all around us even when driving down the

all around us even when driving down the

all around us even when driving down the highway you see billboards like this

highway you see billboards like this

highway you see billboards like this encouraging us to report crime without

encouraging us to report crime without

encouraging us to report crime without revealing ourselves but I still feel

revealing ourselves but I still feel

revealing ourselves but I still feel like a lot of us are really

like a lot of us are really

like a lot of us are really uncomfortable coming forward in the name

uncomfortable coming forward in the name

uncomfortable coming forward in the name of the truth I’m an accounting professor

of the truth I’m an accounting professor

of the truth I’m an accounting professor and I do fraud research and in my class

and I do fraud research and in my class

and I do fraud research and in my class I encourage my students to come forward

I encourage my students to come forward

I encourage my students to come forward with information if they see it or in

with information if they see it or in

with information if they see it or in other words encouraging my students to

other words encouraging my students to

other words encouraging my students to become whistleblowers but if I’m being

become whistleblowers but if I’m being

become whistleblowers but if I’m being completely honest with myself I am

completely honest with myself I am

completely honest with myself I am really conflicted with this message that

really conflicted with this message that

really conflicted with this message that I’m sending to my students and here’s

I’m sending to my students and here’s

I’m sending to my students and here’s why whistleblowers are under attack

why whistleblowers are under attack

why whistleblowers are under attack headline after headline shows us this

headline after headline shows us this

headline after headline shows us this many people choose not to become

many people choose not to become

many people choose not to become whistleblowers due to the fear of

whistleblowers due to the fear of

whistleblowers due to the fear of retaliation from demotions

retaliation from demotions

retaliation from demotions to death threats to job loss perpetual

to death threats to job loss perpetual

to death threats to job loss perpetual job loss choosing to become a

job loss choosing to become a

job loss choosing to become a whistleblower is an uphill battle

whistleblower is an uphill battle

whistleblower is an uphill battle their loyalty becomes into question

their loyalty becomes into question

their loyalty becomes into question their motives their trustworthiness so

their motives their trustworthiness so

their motives their trustworthiness so how can I as a professor who really

how can I as a professor who really

how can I as a professor who really cares about her students encourage them

cares about her students encourage them

cares about her students encourage them to become whistleblowers when I know how

to become whistleblowers when I know how

to become whistleblowers when I know how the world truly feels about them so one

the world truly feels about them so one

the world truly feels about them so one day I was getting ready for my annual

day I was getting ready for my annual

day I was getting ready for my annual whistleblower lecture with my students

whistleblower lecture with my students

whistleblower lecture with my students and I was working on an article for

and I was working on an article for

and I was working on an article for Forbes entitled Wells Fargo and

Forbes entitled Wells Fargo and

Forbes entitled Wells Fargo and millennial whistleblowing what do we

millennial whistleblowing what do we

millennial whistleblowing what do we tell them now I was working on this

tell them now I was working on this

tell them now I was working on this piece and reading about the case I

piece and reading about the case I

piece and reading about the case I became outraged and what made me angry

became outraged and what made me angry

became outraged and what made me angry was when I came to the fact and realized

was when I came to the fact and realized

was when I came to the fact and realized that the employees that try to whistle

that the employees that try to whistle

that the employees that try to whistle blow were actually fired

blow were actually fired

blow were actually fired now this article is right after the 5300

now this article is right after the 5300

now this article is right after the 5300 employees at Wells Fargo being being

employees at Wells Fargo being being

employees at Wells Fargo being being fired due to opening customer accounts

fired due to opening customer accounts

fired due to opening customer accounts without their knowledge but the

without their knowledge but the

without their knowledge but the employees who tried to whistle blow were

employees who tried to whistle blow were

employees who tried to whistle blow were fired and it really made me think about

fired and it really made me think about

fired and it really made me think about the message that I was sharing with my

the message that I was sharing with my

the message that I was sharing with my students and it made me think what if my

students and it made me think what if my

students and it made me think what if my students have been Wells Fargo employees

students have been Wells Fargo employees

students have been Wells Fargo employees on the one hand if they whistle blew

on the one hand if they whistle blew

on the one hand if they whistle blew they would got fired would have gotten

they would got fired would have gotten

they would got fired would have gotten fired but on the other hand if they

fired but on the other hand if they

fired but on the other hand if they didn’t report the fraud that they knew

didn’t report the fraud that they knew

didn’t report the fraud that they knew the way current regulation is written

the way current regulation is written

the way current regulation is written employees are held responsible if they

employees are held responsible if they

employees are held responsible if they knew something and didn’t report it

knew something and didn’t report it

knew something and didn’t report it so criminal prosecution is a real option

so criminal prosecution is a real option

so criminal prosecution is a real option what’s a person opposed to do with those

what’s a person opposed to do with those

what’s a person opposed to do with those type of odds as conflicted as I am in

type of odds as conflicted as I am in

type of odds as conflicted as I am in the classroom I’m also conflicted at

the classroom I’m also conflicted at

the classroom I’m also conflicted at home I hear myself talking to my son and

home I hear myself talking to my son and

home I hear myself talking to my son and my daughter and I can hear myself

my daughter and I can hear myself

my daughter and I can hear myself telling Vivian now Vivian don’t

telling Vivian now Vivian don’t

telling Vivian now Vivian don’t tattletale on Evan and I know she

tattletale on Evan and I know she

tattletale on Evan and I know she probably has valuable and probably

probably has valuable and probably

probably has valuable and probably truthful information to share with me

truthful information to share with me

truthful information to share with me but instead I shut her down I of all

but instead I shut her down I of all

but instead I shut her down I of all people know the valuable contributions

people know the valuable contributions

people know the valuable contributions that whistleblowers make in fact most

that whistleblowers make in fact most

that whistleblowers make in fact most frauds are discovered by them 42% of

frauds are discovered by them 42% of

frauds are discovered by them 42% of frauds are discovered by whistleblower

frauds are discovered by whistleblower

frauds are discovered by whistleblower in comparison to other methods like

in comparison to other methods like

in comparison to other methods like management review and external audit and

management review and external audit and

management review and external audit and when you think about some of the more

when you think about some of the more

when you think about some of the more classic or historical fraud cases it

classic or historical fraud cases it

classic or historical fraud cases it always is around a whistleblower

always is around a whistleblower

always is around a whistleblower Vinc Watergate discovered by

Vinc Watergate discovered by

Vinc Watergate discovered by whistleblower Vinc Enron discovered by

whistleblower Vinc Enron discovered by

whistleblower Vinc Enron discovered by whistleblower and who can forget about

whistleblower and who can forget about

whistleblower and who can forget about Bernard Madoff discovered by a

Bernard Madoff discovered by a

Bernard Madoff discovered by a whistleblower it takes a tremendous

whistleblower it takes a tremendous

whistleblower it takes a tremendous amount of courage to come forward in the

amount of courage to come forward in the

amount of courage to come forward in the name of the truth as Winston Churchill

name of the truth as Winston Churchill

name of the truth as Winston Churchill stated courage is what it takes to stand

stated courage is what it takes to stand

stated courage is what it takes to stand up and speak courage is also what it

up and speak courage is also what it

up and speak courage is also what it takes to sit down and listen but when we

takes to sit down and listen but when we

takes to sit down and listen but when we think about the term whistleblower we

think about the term whistleblower we

think about the term whistleblower we often think of some very descriptive

often think of some very descriptive

often think of some very descriptive words rat snake traitor tattletale

words rat snake traitor tattletale

words rat snake traitor tattletale weasel and those are the nice words the

weasel and those are the nice words the

weasel and those are the nice words the ones I can say from the stage but

ones I can say from the stage but

ones I can say from the stage but instead of punished

instead of punished

instead of punished people that choose to come forward in

people that choose to come forward in

people that choose to come forward in the name of the truth we should embrace

the name of the truth we should embrace

the name of the truth we should embrace them and the best way to embrace them is

them and the best way to embrace them is

them and the best way to embrace them is to think about what it takes to become

to think about what it takes to become

to think about what it takes to become one so I’m always looking for ways to

one so I’m always looking for ways to

one so I’m always looking for ways to develop better whistle blowers within my

develop better whistle blowers within my

develop better whistle blowers within my students and with my kids and so when

students and with my kids and so when

students and with my kids and so when I’m not in class I go around the country

I’m not in class I go around the country

I’m not in class I go around the country and I interview white collar felons

and I interview white collar felons

and I interview white collar felons whistleblowers and victims of fraud

whistleblowers and victims of fraud

whistleblowers and victims of fraud because really I’m trying to understand

because really I’m trying to understand

because really I’m trying to understand what makes them tick and to bring those

what makes them tick and to bring those

what makes them tick and to bring those experiences back into the classroom but

experiences back into the classroom but

experiences back into the classroom but it’s my interviews with whistleblowers

it’s my interviews with whistleblowers

it’s my interviews with whistleblowers that really stick with me and they stick

that really stick with me and they stick

that really stick with me and they stick with me because they make me question my

with me because they make me question my

with me because they make me question my own courage when given the opportunity

own courage when given the opportunity

own courage when given the opportunity what I actually speak up

what I actually speak up

what I actually speak up I asked this of my students I want to

I asked this of my students I want to

I asked this of my students I want to ask it of my kids but can I actually do

ask it of my kids but can I actually do

ask it of my kids but can I actually do it and there have been some

it and there have been some

it and there have been some whistleblowers that I’ve met that have

whistleblowers that I’ve met that have

whistleblowers that I’ve met that have really had an impact on my life as well

really had an impact on my life as well

really had an impact on my life as well as my students experience and so this is

as my students experience and so this is

as my students experience and so this is a couple stories that I want to share

a couple stories that I want to share

a couple stories that I want to share with you this is Mary Mary Willingham is

with you this is Mary Mary Willingham is

with you this is Mary Mary Willingham is the whistleblower from the University of

the whistleblower from the University of

the whistleblower from the University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill academic

North Carolina at Chapel Hill academic

North Carolina at Chapel Hill academic fraud case and Mary was a learning

fraud case and Mary was a learning

fraud case and Mary was a learning specialist at the University and she

specialist at the University and she

specialist at the University and she worked with students primarily student

worked with students primarily student

worked with students primarily student athletes and what she noticed when she

athletes and what she noticed when she

athletes and what she noticed when she was working with students is they had

was working with students is they had

was working with students is they had they were turning in term papers that

they were turning in term papers that

they were turning in term papers that seemed well beyond their reading levels

seemed well beyond their reading levels

seemed well beyond their reading levels she started to ask a couple questions

she started to ask a couple questions

she started to ask a couple questions and she found out that there was a

and she found out that there was a

and she found out that there was a database where the student athletes

database where the student athletes

database where the student athletes could retrieve papers and turn them in

could retrieve papers and turn them in

could retrieve papers and turn them in and then she found out that some of her

and then she found out that some of her

and then she found out that some of her colleagues were funneling students into

colleagues were funneling students into

colleagues were funneling students into fake classes just to keep them eligible

fake classes just to keep them eligible

fake classes just to keep them eligible to play now when Mary found this out she

to play now when Mary found this out she

to play now when Mary found this out she was outraged and so what she tried to do

was outraged and so what she tried to do

was outraged and so what she tried to do was go to her direct supervisor but they

was go to her direct supervisor but they

was go to her direct supervisor but they didn’t do anything and then Mary tried

didn’t do anything and then Mary tried

didn’t do anything and then Mary tried to go to some internal university

to go to some internal university

to go to some internal university administrators and they didn’t do

administrators and they didn’t do

administrators and they didn’t do anything so what happens when nobody

anything so what happens when nobody

anything so what happens when nobody listens you blog so mary decided to

listens you blog so mary decided to

listens you blog so mary decided to develop a blog her blog went viral

develop a blog her blog went viral

develop a blog her blog went viral within 4 to 24 hours and she was

within 4 to 24 hours and she was

within 4 to 24 hours and she was contacted by a reporter now when she was

contacted by a reporter now when she was

contacted by a reporter now when she was contacted by this reporter her identity

contacted by this reporter her identity

contacted by this reporter her identity was known she was exposed and when she

was known she was exposed and when she

was known she was exposed and when she was exposed

was exposed

was exposed she received a demotion death threats

she received a demotion death threats

she received a demotion death threats over collegiate sports Mary didn’t do

over collegiate sports Mary didn’t do

over collegiate sports Mary didn’t do anything wrong

anything wrong

anything wrong she didn’t participate in the

she didn’t participate in the

she didn’t participate in the fraud she really thought that she was

fraud she really thought that she was

fraud she really thought that she was giving voice to students that were

giving voice to students that were

giving voice to students that were voiceless

voiceless

voiceless but her loyalty was questioned her

but her loyalty was questioned her

but her loyalty was questioned her trustworthiness and her motives now

trustworthiness and her motives now

trustworthiness and her motives now whistle blowing doesn’t always have to

whistle blowing doesn’t always have to

whistle blowing doesn’t always have to end in two motions or death threats

end in two motions or death threats

end in two motions or death threats actually in 2002 this was the cover of

actually in 2002 this was the cover of

actually in 2002 this was the cover of Time magazine where we were actually

Time magazine where we were actually

Time magazine where we were actually honoring three brave whistleblowers for

honoring three brave whistleblowers for

honoring three brave whistleblowers for their decision to come forward in the

their decision to come forward in the

their decision to come forward in the name of the truth

name of the truth

name of the truth and when you look at the research 22% of

and when you look at the research 22% of

and when you look at the research 22% of whistleblowers actually report

whistleblowers actually report

whistleblowers actually report retaliation so there is a huge

retaliation so there is a huge

retaliation so there is a huge population of people that report and are

population of people that report and are

population of people that report and are not retaliated against and that gives me

not retaliated against and that gives me

not retaliated against and that gives me hope so this is Kathy Kathy Swanson is a

hope so this is Kathy Kathy Swanson is a

hope so this is Kathy Kathy Swanson is a retired city clerk from the city of

retired city clerk from the city of

retired city clerk from the city of Dickson and one day Kathy was doing her

Dickson and one day Kathy was doing her

Dickson and one day Kathy was doing her job just like she always did and she

job just like she always did and she

job just like she always did and she stumbled upon a pretty interesting case

stumbled upon a pretty interesting case

stumbled upon a pretty interesting case see Kathy was at the end of the month

see Kathy was at the end of the month

see Kathy was at the end of the month and she was doing her treasurer’s report

and she was doing her treasurer’s report

and she was doing her treasurer’s report for the city and typically her boss

for the city and typically her boss

for the city and typically her boss Rita Kronwall gave her a list of

Rita Kronwall gave her a list of

Rita Kronwall gave her a list of accounts and said Kathy called the bank

accounts and said Kathy called the bank

accounts and said Kathy called the bank and get these specific accounts and

and get these specific accounts and

and get these specific accounts and Kathy did her job but this particular

Kathy did her job but this particular

Kathy did her job but this particular day Rita was out of town and Kathy was

day Rita was out of town and Kathy was

day Rita was out of town and Kathy was busy she picks up the phone she calls

busy she picks up the phone she calls

busy she picks up the phone she calls the bank and says fax me all of the

the bank and says fax me all of the

the bank and says fax me all of the accounts and when she gets the fax she

accounts and when she gets the fax she

accounts and when she gets the fax she sees that there was an account to have

sees that there was an account to have

sees that there was an account to have some withdrawals and deposits in it that

some withdrawals and deposits in it that

some withdrawals and deposits in it that she did not know about it was an account

she did not know about it was an account

she did not know about it was an account controlled only by Rita so Kathy looked

controlled only by Rita so Kathy looked

controlled only by Rita so Kathy looked at the information she reported it to

at the information she reported it to

at the information she reported it to her direct supervisor which was then

her direct supervisor which was then

her direct supervisor which was then mayor Burke and this led into a huge

mayor Burke and this led into a huge

mayor Burke and this led into a huge investigation a six-month investigation

investigation a six-month investigation

investigation a six-month investigation come to find out Kathy’s boss Rita cron

come to find out Kathy’s boss Rita cron

come to find out Kathy’s boss Rita cron well was embezzling money Rita was

well was embezzling money Rita was

well was embezzling money Rita was embezzling fifty three million dollars

embezzling fifty three million dollars

embezzling fifty three million dollars over a 20-year period and Kathy just

over a 20-year period and Kathy just

over a 20-year period and Kathy just happened to stumble upon it Kathy is a

happened to stumble upon it Kathy is a

happened to stumble upon it Kathy is a hero and actually I had the opportunity

hero and actually I had the opportunity

hero and actually I had the opportunity of interviewing Kathy for my documentary

of interviewing Kathy for my documentary

of interviewing Kathy for my documentary all the Queen’s horses and Kathy wasn’t

all the Queen’s horses and Kathy wasn’t

all the Queen’s horses and Kathy wasn’t seeking fame in fact she really didn’t

seeking fame in fact she really didn’t

seeking fame in fact she really didn’t want to talk to me for a really long

want to talk to me for a really long

want to talk to me for a really long time but through strategic stalking she

time but through strategic stalking she

time but through strategic stalking she ended up doing the interview but she was

ended up doing the interview but she was

ended up doing the interview but she was seeking fairness not fame and if it

seeking fairness not fame and if it

seeking fairness not fame and if it wasn’t for Kathy

wasn’t for Kathy

wasn’t for Kathy who’s to say this fraud would have ever

who’s to say this fraud would have ever

who’s to say this fraud would have ever been discovered so remember that Forbes

been discovered so remember that Forbes

been discovered so remember that Forbes article I was talking about that I was

article I was talking about that I was

article I was talking about that I was working on before my lecture

working on before my lecture

working on before my lecture well I posted it and something really

well I posted it and something really

well I posted it and something really fantastic happened I started receiving

fantastic happened I started receiving

fantastic happened I started receiving emails from whistleblowers all over the

emails from whistleblowers all over the

emails from whistleblowers all over the world and as I was receiving these

world and as I was receiving these

world and as I was receiving these emails and responding back to them there

emails and responding back to them there

emails and responding back to them there was a common theme in the message that I

was a common theme in the message that I

was a common theme in the message that I received and this is what it was they

received and this is what it was they

received and this is what it was they all said this I blew the whistle people

all said this I blew the whistle people

all said this I blew the whistle people really hate me now I got fired but guess

really hate me now I got fired but guess

really hate me now I got fired but guess what I would do it all over again if I

what I would do it all over again if I

what I would do it all over again if I could and so as I kept reading this

could and so as I kept reading this

could and so as I kept reading this message these all of these messages I

message these all of these messages I

message these all of these messages I wanted to think what could I share with

wanted to think what could I share with

wanted to think what could I share with my students and so I pulled it all

my students and so I pulled it all

my students and so I pulled it all together and this is what I learned it’s

together and this is what I learned it’s

together and this is what I learned it’s important for us to cultivate hope

important for us to cultivate hope

important for us to cultivate hope whistleblowers are hopeful despite

whistleblowers are hopeful despite

whistleblowers are hopeful despite popular belief they’re not all

popular belief they’re not all

popular belief they’re not all disgruntled pool employees that have a

disgruntled pool employees that have a

disgruntled pool employees that have a beef with the company their hopefulness

beef with the company their hopefulness

beef with the company their hopefulness really is what drives them to come

really is what drives them to come

really is what drives them to come forward we also have to cultivate

forward we also have to cultivate

forward we also have to cultivate commitment whistleblowers are committed

commitment whistleblowers are committed

commitment whistleblowers are committed and it’s that passion to that

and it’s that passion to that

and it’s that passion to that organization that makes them want to

organization that makes them want to

organization that makes them want to come forward we also need to cultivate

come forward we also need to cultivate

come forward we also need to cultivate humility and the way that we live now

humility and the way that we live now

humility and the way that we live now completely on social media documenting

completely on social media documenting

completely on social media documenting every minute

every minute

every minute we actually need to cultivate humility

we actually need to cultivate humility

we actually need to cultivate humility whistleblowers are humble again they’re

whistleblowers are humble again they’re

whistleblowers are humble again they’re not seeking fame but they are seeking

not seeking fame but they are seeking

not seeking fame but they are seeking fairness and we need to continue to

fairness and we need to continue to

fairness and we need to continue to cultivate bravery whistleblowers are

cultivate bravery whistleblowers are

cultivate bravery whistleblowers are brave often they didn’t they

brave often they didn’t they

brave often they didn’t they underestimated the impact whistleblowing

underestimated the impact whistleblowing

underestimated the impact whistleblowing had on their family but what they

had on their family but what they

had on their family but what they continued to comment on is how hard it

continued to comment on is how hard it

continued to comment on is how hard it is to withhold the truth with that I

is to withhold the truth with that I

is to withhold the truth with that I want to leave you with one additional

want to leave you with one additional

want to leave you with one additional name Peter

name Peter

name Peter Buxton Peter Buxton was a 27 year old

Buxton Peter Buxton was a 27 year old

Buxton Peter Buxton was a 27 year old employee for the US Public Public Health

employee for the US Public Public Health

employee for the US Public Public Health Service and he was he was hired to

Service and he was he was hired to

Service and he was he was hired to interview people that had sexually

interview people that had sexually

interview people that had sexually transmitted diseases and through the

transmitted diseases and through the

transmitted diseases and through the course of his work he noticed a clinical

course of his work he noticed a clinical

course of his work he noticed a clinical study that was going on within the

study that was going on within the

study that was going on within the organization and it was a study that was

organization and it was a study that was

organization and it was a study that was looking at the progression of untreated

looking at the progression of untreated

looking at the progression of untreated syphilis and so there were 600 African

syphilis and so there were 600 African

syphilis and so there were 600 African American males that were in this study

American males that were in this study

American males that were in this study and they

and they

and they we didn’t know what was happening to

we didn’t know what was happening to

we didn’t know what was happening to them they were enticed into the study

them they were enticed into the study

them they were enticed into the study through being given free medical exams

through being given free medical exams

through being given free medical exams burial insurance and they just didn’t

burial insurance and they just didn’t

burial insurance and they just didn’t know what was happening and so what

know what was happening and so what

know what was happening and so what happened through the course of this

happened through the course of this

happened through the course of this study is penicillin was discovered to

study is penicillin was discovered to

study is penicillin was discovered to help treat syphilis and what Peter

help treat syphilis and what Peter

help treat syphilis and what Peter noticed was the participants in this

noticed was the participants in this

noticed was the participants in this study were not given the penicillin to

study were not given the penicillin to

study were not given the penicillin to treat their syphilis and the

treat their syphilis and the

treat their syphilis and the participants didn’t know so similar to

participants didn’t know so similar to

participants didn’t know so similar to Mary

Mary

Mary Peter tried to report and talked to his

Peter tried to report and talked to his

Peter tried to report and talked to his internal supervisors but no one listened

internal supervisors but no one listened

internal supervisors but no one listened and so Peter thought this was completely

and so Peter thought this was completely

and so Peter thought this was completely unfair and he tried to report again and

unfair and he tried to report again and

unfair and he tried to report again and finally talked to a reporter very

finally talked to a reporter very

finally talked to a reporter very similar to Mary and in 1972 this was a

similar to Mary and in 1972 this was a

similar to Mary and in 1972 this was a front page of the New York Times

front page of the New York Times

front page of the New York Times syphilis victims in us study went

syphilis victims in us study went

syphilis victims in us study went untreated for 40 years this is known to

untreated for 40 years this is known to

untreated for 40 years this is known to us today as a Tuskegee syphilis

us today as a Tuskegee syphilis

us today as a Tuskegee syphilis experiment and Peter was the

experiment and Peter was the

experiment and Peter was the whistleblower what happened to the 600

whistleblower what happened to the 600

whistleblower what happened to the 600 man you may wonder the 600 original men

man you may wonder the 600 original men

man you may wonder the 600 original men 28 men died from syphilis 100 died from

28 men died from syphilis 100 died from

28 men died from syphilis 100 died from syphilis complications 40 wives were

syphilis complications 40 wives were

syphilis complications 40 wives were infected and 10 children were born with

infected and 10 children were born with

infected and 10 children were born with congenital syphilis who’s to say what

congenital syphilis who’s to say what

congenital syphilis who’s to say what these numbers would be if it wasn’t for

these numbers would be if it wasn’t for

these numbers would be if it wasn’t for the brave courageous act of Peter we’re

the brave courageous act of Peter we’re

the brave courageous act of Peter we’re all connected to Peter actually if you

all connected to Peter actually if you

all connected to Peter actually if you know anybody that’s in a clinical trial

know anybody that’s in a clinical trial

know anybody that’s in a clinical trial the reason why we have informed consent

the reason why we have informed consent

the reason why we have informed consent today is because of Peters courageous

today is because of Peters courageous

today is because of Peters courageous act so let me ask you a question that

act so let me ask you a question that

act so let me ask you a question that original question a variation of the

original question a variation of the

original question a variation of the original question how many of us have

original question how many of us have

original question how many of us have ever used the term snitch rat tattletale

ever used the term snitch rat tattletale

ever used the term snitch rat tattletale snake weasel leak anybody before you get

snake weasel leak anybody before you get

snake weasel leak anybody before you get the urge to do that again I want you to

the urge to do that again I want you to

the urge to do that again I want you to think a little bit it might be the Mary

think a little bit it might be the Mary

think a little bit it might be the Mary the Peter the Kathy’s of the world you

the Peter the Kathy’s of the world you

the Peter the Kathy’s of the world you might be the person that could shape

might be the person that could shape

might be the person that could shape history or they could be the person that

history or they could be the person that

history or they could be the person that shapes yours thank you

shapes yours thank you

shapes yours thank you you

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