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Why Conflict is a Good Thing | Dale Feinauer | TEDxOshkosh


I understand why people clap before you

I understand why people clap before you did anything seems to be clapping should

did anything seems to be clapping should

did anything seems to be clapping should only happen if you’re good

only happen if you’re good

only happen if you’re good conflict so we’re gonna start off this

conflict so we’re gonna start off this

conflict so we’re gonna start off this whole process with conflict and thinking

whole process with conflict and thinking

whole process with conflict and thinking about conflict well let’s start with the

about conflict well let’s start with the

about conflict well let’s start with the question do you like conflict do you not

question do you like conflict do you not

question do you like conflict do you not like conflict so if we put this into

like conflict so if we put this into

like conflict so if we put this into three boxes people who would say I

three boxes people who would say I

three boxes people who would say I really don’t like conflict like to avoid

really don’t like conflict like to avoid

really don’t like conflict like to avoid it

it

it yeah conflict is okay and conflict is

yeah conflict is okay and conflict is

yeah conflict is okay and conflict is something that I just love I just can’t

something that I just love I just can’t

something that I just love I just can’t wait to have conflict how many of you

wait to have conflict how many of you

wait to have conflict how many of you would be in the I love to have conflict

would be in the I love to have conflict

would be in the I love to have conflict mode I’m noting my boss’s boss put his

mode I’m noting my boss’s boss put his

mode I’m noting my boss’s boss put his hand up I don’t know that that’s

hand up I don’t know that that’s

hand up I don’t know that that’s reassuring how many of you would be in

reassuring how many of you would be in

reassuring how many of you would be in the mode of yeah I can handle conflict

the mode of yeah I can handle conflict

the mode of yeah I can handle conflict it’s okay and how many of you in the I

it’s okay and how many of you in the I

it’s okay and how many of you in the I really don’t like conflict so clean

really don’t like conflict so clean

really don’t like conflict so clean somebody’s got two hands up I don’t like

somebody’s got two hands up I don’t like

somebody’s got two hands up I don’t like conflict I don’t like my spouse they

conflict I don’t like my spouse they

conflict I don’t like my spouse they have conflict let’s think about that for

have conflict let’s think about that for

have conflict let’s think about that for a minute

a minute

a minute most folks say they really don’t like

most folks say they really don’t like

most folks say they really don’t like conflict is that true what do you watch

conflict is that true what do you watch

conflict is that true what do you watch on TV come on anybody what do you watch

you watch the news is there a little bit

you watch the news is there a little bit of conflict in the news these days yep

of conflict in the news these days yep

of conflict in the news these days yep what but the entire political process is

what but the entire political process is

what but the entire political process is nothing but conflict you watch dramas on

nothing but conflict you watch dramas on

nothing but conflict you watch dramas on TV it’s about conflict you watch

TV it’s about conflict you watch

TV it’s about conflict you watch comedies on TV it’s about conflict you

comedies on TV it’s about conflict you

comedies on TV it’s about conflict you watch sports on TV it’s about conflict I

watch sports on TV it’s about conflict I

watch sports on TV it’s about conflict I would contend that the I don’t like

would contend that the I don’t like

would contend that the I don’t like conflict is a little little marginal you

conflict is a little little marginal you

conflict is a little little marginal you go home the neighbors are fighting you

go home the neighbors are fighting you

go home the neighbors are fighting you could go to one side of the house open a

could go to one side of the house open a

could go to one side of the house open a beer sit there listen to TV and you will

beer sit there listen to TV and you will

beer sit there listen to TV and you will not hear the neighbors you could go to

not hear the neighbors you could go to

not hear the neighbors you could go to the front porch and listen to the

the front porch and listen to the

the front porch and listen to the neighbors fight no one’s throwing

neighbors fight no one’s throwing

neighbors fight no one’s throwing punches it’s not out of control how many

punches it’s not out of control how many

punches it’s not out of control how many of you are joining me on the porch

of you are joining me on the porch

of you are joining me on the porch listening to the neighbors fight

and you just said you didn’t like

and you just said you didn’t like conflict so do we like conflict do we

conflict so do we like conflict do we

conflict so do we like conflict do we not like conflict maybe what the answer

not like conflict maybe what the answer

not like conflict maybe what the answer is is we like conflict as long as we’re

is is we like conflict as long as we’re

is is we like conflict as long as we’re not in it conflict it’s involving other

not in it conflict it’s involving other

not in it conflict it’s involving other people but my basic point here is the

people but my basic point here is the

people but my basic point here is the conflict can I would underline the word

conflict can I would underline the word

conflict can I would underline the word can can be a wonderful thing when it

can can be a wonderful thing when it

can can be a wonderful thing when it comes to decision-making in

comes to decision-making in

comes to decision-making in organizations that’s my primary area of

organizations that’s my primary area of

organizations that’s my primary area of expertise also in your personal life

expertise also in your personal life

expertise also in your personal life I’ll deal with that much more gingerly

I’ll deal with that much more gingerly

I’ll deal with that much more gingerly but conflict can be a wonderful thing in

but conflict can be a wonderful thing in

but conflict can be a wonderful thing in decision-making that’s the basic premise

decision-making that’s the basic premise

decision-making that’s the basic premise now I will admit the conflict can be a

now I will admit the conflict can be a

now I will admit the conflict can be a terrible thing in decision-making

terrible thing in decision-making

terrible thing in decision-making typically we would define this as

typically we would define this as

typically we would define this as dysfunctional conflict conflict that

dysfunctional conflict conflict that

dysfunctional conflict conflict that gets personal is sort of the textbook

gets personal is sort of the textbook

gets personal is sort of the textbook definition of conflict that gets to be

definition of conflict that gets to be

definition of conflict that gets to be bad and and what happens when we have

bad and and what happens when we have

bad and and what happens when we have dysfunctional conflict we have

dysfunctional conflict we have

dysfunctional conflict we have dysfunctional conflict we lose

dysfunctional conflict we lose

dysfunctional conflict we lose collaboration instead of people sitting

collaboration instead of people sitting

collaboration instead of people sitting down collaboratively and figuring out

down collaboratively and figuring out

down collaboratively and figuring out how can we work together and make

how can we work together and make

how can we work together and make something good happen what we have is

something good happen what we have is

something good happen what we have is individuals that involve engage in what

individuals that involve engage in what

individuals that involve engage in what we often think of as win lose

we often think of as win lose

we often think of as win lose negotiation win lose decision-making I

negotiation win lose decision-making I

negotiation win lose decision-making I want to win I really don’t want you to

want to win I really don’t want you to

want to win I really don’t want you to necessarily get what you want at most I

necessarily get what you want at most I

necessarily get what you want at most I don’t care if you get what you want and

don’t care if you get what you want and

don’t care if you get what you want and if you lose that’s just as good and I

if you lose that’s just as good and I

if you lose that’s just as good and I would contend that many of you and I

would contend that many of you and I

would contend that many of you and I will not ask for a show of hands have

will not ask for a show of hands have

will not ask for a show of hands have engaged in what I would describe as

engaged in what I would describe as

engaged in what I would describe as lose-lose conflict that you’ve gotten

lose-lose conflict that you’ve gotten

lose-lose conflict that you’ve gotten into conflict where I want the other

into conflict where I want the other

into conflict where I want the other person to lose that my motivation is

person to lose that my motivation is

person to lose that my motivation is more the pound of flesh out of the other

more the pound of flesh out of the other

more the pound of flesh out of the other person because they’ve aggravated me so

person because they’ve aggravated me so

person because they’ve aggravated me so much then it is that I want to get

much then it is that I want to get

much then it is that I want to get something that I want and in fact again

something that I want and in fact again

something that I want and in fact again no show of hands many of us have been in

no show of hands many of us have been in

no show of hands many of us have been in a scenario where I don’t mind if I lose

a scenario where I don’t mind if I lose

a scenario where I don’t mind if I lose a little as long as I can make the other

a little as long as I can make the other

a little as long as I can make the other person lose a lot this is clearly not

person lose a lot this is clearly not

person lose a lot this is clearly not good in organ

good in organ

good in organ but we do this we get aggravated we get

but we do this we get aggravated we get

but we do this we get aggravated we get frustrated with other people and we get

frustrated with other people and we get

frustrated with other people and we get aggravated the point we want to see them

aggravated the point we want to see them

aggravated the point we want to see them lose this is clearly a bad thing

lose this is clearly a bad thing

lose this is clearly a bad thing in addition conflict can result in

in addition conflict can result in

in addition conflict can result in emotional harm people say things to each

emotional harm people say things to each

emotional harm people say things to each other that is hurtful and individuals

other that is hurtful and individuals

other that is hurtful and individuals become diminished in terms of their self

become diminished in terms of their self

become diminished in terms of their self esteem because of the nature of the

esteem because of the nature of the

esteem because of the nature of the conflict in addition there can be

conflict in addition there can be

conflict in addition there can be physical harm as we know conflict can

physical harm as we know conflict can

physical harm as we know conflict can get so far out of control that people

get so far out of control that people

get so far out of control that people shoot each other that people do do bad

shoot each other that people do do bad

shoot each other that people do do bad things what’s the argument that conflict

things what’s the argument that conflict

things what’s the argument that conflict can be a good thing conflict can be a

can be a good thing conflict can be a

can be a good thing conflict can be a wonderful thing in decision-making

wonderful thing in decision-making

wonderful thing in decision-making because it helps us to better analyze a

because it helps us to better analyze a

because it helps us to better analyze a question it avoids groupthink I mean

question it avoids groupthink I mean

question it avoids groupthink I mean getting an example of where we had

getting an example of where we had

getting an example of where we had groupthink and it did not work out well

groupthink and it did not work out well

groupthink and it did not work out well the invasion of Cuba the the Bay of Pigs

the invasion of Cuba the the Bay of Pigs

the invasion of Cuba the the Bay of Pigs it looks like most of the audience is

it looks like most of the audience is

it looks like most of the audience is young enough that you may very well not

young enough that you may very well not

young enough that you may very well not have remembered the Bay of Pigs invasion

have remembered the Bay of Pigs invasion

have remembered the Bay of Pigs invasion so just very quickly in terms of the

so just very quickly in terms of the

so just very quickly in terms of the history you’ve got President Kennedy new

history you’ve got President Kennedy new

history you’ve got President Kennedy new young president height to the Cold War

young president height to the Cold War

young president height to the Cold War Khrushchev has been being very

Khrushchev has been being very

Khrushchev has been being very belligerent there’s a felt need for a

belligerent there’s a felt need for a

belligerent there’s a felt need for a president can do something to show the

president can do something to show the

president can do something to show the Soviets that he’ll stand up to them the

Soviets that he’ll stand up to them the

Soviets that he’ll stand up to them the invasion actually been planned during

invasion actually been planned during

invasion actually been planned during the Eisenhower administration Kennedy

the Eisenhower administration Kennedy

the Eisenhower administration Kennedy gets his advisers together the best and

gets his advisers together the best and

gets his advisers together the best and the brightest all of these geniuses gets

the brightest all of these geniuses gets

the brightest all of these geniuses gets him in the room and says should we do

him in the room and says should we do

him in the room and says should we do the invasion of Cuba yes or no and to a

the invasion of Cuba yes or no and to a

the invasion of Cuba yes or no and to a person to a man and in those days it was

person to a man and in those days it was

person to a man and in those days it was men to a man they all said we should do

men to a man they all said we should do

men to a man they all said we should do the invasion of Cuba and then they did

the invasion of Cuba and then they did

the invasion of Cuba and then they did the invasion of Cuba and it was a

the invasion of Cuba and it was a

the invasion of Cuba and it was a disaster for a variety of reasons

disaster for a variety of reasons

disaster for a variety of reasons pulling the air support etc but

pulling the air support etc but

pulling the air support etc but fundamentally it turned out to have been

fundamentally it turned out to have been

fundamentally it turned out to have been a very very bad idea and a terrible

a very very bad idea and a terrible

a very very bad idea and a terrible start for the Kennedy administration so

start for the Kennedy administration so

start for the Kennedy administration so Kennedy brings his best and brightest

Kennedy brings his best and brightest

Kennedy brings his best and brightest together in a room and says what the

together in a room and says what the

together in a room and says what the heck happened how did this go from we

heck happened how did this go from we

heck happened how did this go from we were making great decisions because I’ve

were making great decisions because I’ve

were making great decisions because I’ve got them the best and the brightest who

got them the best and the brightest who

got them the best and the brightest who we made a terrible decision how do we

we made a terrible decision how do we

we made a terrible decision how do we decide to do this and they went around

decide to do this and they went around

decide to do this and they went around the room again and everybody said well

the room again and everybody said well

the room again and everybody said well you know I had some hesitancy I wasn’t

you know I had some hesitancy I wasn’t

you know I had some hesitancy I wasn’t sure it was the right idea but I wanted

sure it was the right idea but I wanted

sure it was the right idea but I wanted to be a

to be a

to be a team player I wanted to be part of the

team player I wanted to be part of the

team player I wanted to be part of the group I didn’t want to be divisive I

group I didn’t want to be divisive I

group I didn’t want to be divisive I didn’t want to create conflict in the

didn’t want to create conflict in the

didn’t want to create conflict in the interest of avoiding conflict we made a

interest of avoiding conflict we made a

interest of avoiding conflict we made a very bad decision if each one of those

very bad decision if each one of those

very bad decision if each one of those people would have spoken up would have

people would have spoken up would have

people would have spoken up would have talked about their hesitancy very likely

talked about their hesitancy very likely

talked about their hesitancy very likely that wouldn’t have happened or it

that wouldn’t have happened or it

that wouldn’t have happened or it wouldn’t have happened that way

wouldn’t have happened that way

wouldn’t have happened that way good conflict in a decision-making

good conflict in a decision-making

good conflict in a decision-making process will result in much better

process will result in much better

process will result in much better analysis much deeper thinking beyond

analysis much deeper thinking beyond

analysis much deeper thinking beyond that conflict can be a great source of

that conflict can be a great source of

that conflict can be a great source of motivation we all think about the great

motivation we all think about the great

motivation we all think about the great raw raw speech that you give a halftime

raw raw speech that you give a halftime

raw raw speech that you give a halftime of football game you don’t have to give

of football game you don’t have to give

of football game you don’t have to give speeches and if you play sports know

speeches and if you play sports know

speeches and if you play sports know that anytime you go into any kind of

that anytime you go into any kind of

that anytime you go into any kind of conflict arena there’s plenty of

conflict arena there’s plenty of

conflict arena there’s plenty of adrenaline in addition it’s great for

adrenaline in addition it’s great for

adrenaline in addition it’s great for personal growth and development great

personal growth and development great

personal growth and development great for organizational growth and

for organizational growth and

for organizational growth and development the concept that we develop

development the concept that we develop

development the concept that we develop sitting on the beach drinking a mai tai

sitting on the beach drinking a mai tai

sitting on the beach drinking a mai tai chanting our mantra it’s never really

chanting our mantra it’s never really

chanting our mantra it’s never really the way it works I think if you think

the way it works I think if you think

the way it works I think if you think about when your personal growth has

about when your personal growth has

about when your personal growth has occurred it’s been in periods of

occurred it’s been in periods of

occurred it’s been in periods of conflict it’s been when your life wasn’t

conflict it’s been when your life wasn’t

conflict it’s been when your life wasn’t going great when there were issues when

going great when there were issues when

going great when there were issues when there were challenges so conflict can be

there were challenges so conflict can be

there were challenges so conflict can be a great thing and conflict in

a great thing and conflict in

a great thing and conflict in decision-making is embedded into the

decision-making is embedded into the

decision-making is embedded into the most important decisions we make as our

most important decisions we make as our

most important decisions we make as our society I would contend the most

society I would contend the most

society I would contend the most important decisions we make are about

important decisions we make are about

important decisions we make are about who goes to jail who owns what and when

who goes to jail who owns what and when

who goes to jail who owns what and when we go to war if we don’t get those right

we go to war if we don’t get those right

we go to war if we don’t get those right our society does not hang together we

our society does not hang together we

our society does not hang together we have embedded conflict into all of those

have embedded conflict into all of those

have embedded conflict into all of those who goes to jail the criminal justice

who goes to jail the criminal justice

who goes to jail the criminal justice system and thus in the social justice

system and thus in the social justice

system and thus in the social justice system the property rights process are

system the property rights process are

system the property rights process are all embedded with conflict I think I own

all embedded with conflict I think I own

all embedded with conflict I think I own something you think you own something we

something you think you own something we

something you think you own something we disagree about this contract whatever

disagree about this contract whatever

disagree about this contract whatever you get an attorney I get an attorney we

you get an attorney I get an attorney we

you get an attorney I get an attorney we pay people to do what we pay them to

pay people to do what we pay them to

pay people to do what we pay them to fight we pay them to have conflict the

fight we pay them to have conflict the

fight we pay them to have conflict the system is predicated on my attorney and

system is predicated on my attorney and

system is predicated on my attorney and your attorney going fight before a judge

your attorney going fight before a judge

your attorney going fight before a judge and out of that conflict the judge can

and out of that conflict the judge can

and out of that conflict the judge can make the best decision it’s true in the

make the best decision it’s true in the

make the best decision it’s true in the legal system

legal system

legal system it is now true in the national defense

it is now true in the national defense

it is now true in the national defense arena no longer does the president of

arena no longer does the president of

arena no longer does the president of United States ever

United States ever

United States ever yeah consistent advice unanimous support

yeah consistent advice unanimous support

yeah consistent advice unanimous support everybody agrees we should do X it never

everybody agrees we should do X it never

everybody agrees we should do X it never happens the National Security Adviser

happens the National Security Adviser

happens the National Security Adviser now says you folks make the argument

now says you folks make the argument

now says you folks make the argument that we should invade Syria you make the

that we should invade Syria you make the

that we should invade Syria you make the argument for a no-fly zone you make the

argument for a no-fly zone you make the

argument for a no-fly zone you make the argument for additional sanctions you

argument for additional sanctions you

argument for additional sanctions you folks come up with something else and I

folks come up with something else and I

folks come up with something else and I don’t care what you really think that’s

don’t care what you really think that’s

don’t care what you really think that’s irrelevant you go before the president

irrelevant you go before the president

irrelevant you go before the president United States and make the best argument

United States and make the best argument

United States and make the best argument you can for a for not a for B for not B

you can for a for not a for B for not B

you can for a for not a for B for not B because we have learned that we make

because we have learned that we make

because we have learned that we make better decisions if we first fight about

better decisions if we first fight about

better decisions if we first fight about them so premise is we make better

them so premise is we make better

them so premise is we make better decisions when we have conflict raising

decisions when we have conflict raising

decisions when we have conflict raising the question how do we do this

the question how do we do this

the question how do we do this how do we have good functional conflict

how do we have good functional conflict

how do we have good functional conflict that is focused on the outcome and avoid

that is focused on the outcome and avoid

that is focused on the outcome and avoid the dysfunctional conflict which is

the dysfunctional conflict which is

the dysfunctional conflict which is where it gets personal where we get mad

where it gets personal where we get mad

where it gets personal where we get mad at each other well where do we do it

at each other well where do we do it

at each other well where do we do it right I would contend we do conflict

right I would contend we do conflict

right I would contend we do conflict right in our society in two arenas

right in our society in two arenas

right in our society in two arenas sports and the law I know we like to

sports and the law I know we like to

sports and the law I know we like to pick on attorneys but I think they get

pick on attorneys but I think they get

pick on attorneys but I think they get this one largely right and what’s true

this one largely right and what’s true

this one largely right and what’s true about the conflict that occurs in both

about the conflict that occurs in both

about the conflict that occurs in both the sports arena and in the legal arena

the sports arena and in the legal arena

the sports arena and in the legal arena in both of those arenas conflict has a

in both of those arenas conflict has a

in both of those arenas conflict has a very clear beginning the game starts the

very clear beginning the game starts the

very clear beginning the game starts the umpire says go and you throw out the

umpire says go and you throw out the

umpire says go and you throw out the first pitch there’s a wind-up clock

first pitch there’s a wind-up clock

first pitch there’s a wind-up clock there’s a whistle and the game starts

there’s a whistle and the game starts

there’s a whistle and the game starts there’s a clear middle there’s a clear

there’s a clear middle there’s a clear

there’s a clear middle there’s a clear management of the conflict process there

management of the conflict process there

management of the conflict process there are rules in a way to enforce the rules

are rules in a way to enforce the rules

are rules in a way to enforce the rules attorneys go to court they can’t just

attorneys go to court they can’t just

attorneys go to court they can’t just say anything they want and do anything

say anything they want and do anything

say anything they want and do anything they want there are rules of evidence

they want there are rules of evidence

they want there are rules of evidence there’s things that the judge does to

there’s things that the judge does to

there’s things that the judge does to manage the process and if you don’t do

manage the process and if you don’t do

manage the process and if you don’t do what the judge tells you to do in court

what the judge tells you to do in court

what the judge tells you to do in court bad things can happen to you and there

bad things can happen to you and there

bad things can happen to you and there is a clear ending conflict that drags on

is a clear ending conflict that drags on

is a clear ending conflict that drags on conflict that goes on and on and on

conflict that goes on and on and on

conflict that goes on and on and on tends to become dysfunctional we have

tends to become dysfunctional we have

tends to become dysfunctional we have this argument again and people get

this argument again and people get

this argument again and people get annoyed by the fact that once again I’m

annoyed by the fact that once again I’m

annoyed by the fact that once again I’m going to have to have the same debate

going to have to have the same debate

going to have to have the same debate over and over the key to having good

over and over the key to having good

over and over the key to having good conflict and decision-making a clear

conflict and decision-making a clear

conflict and decision-making a clear beginning

beginning

beginning well-managed middle and a clear end so

well-managed middle and a clear end so

well-managed middle and a clear end so let’s think about how we do those three

let’s think about how we do those three

let’s think about how we do those three things clean beginning well-managed

things clean beginning well-managed

things clean beginning well-managed middle and a clean end how do we do a

middle and a clean end how do we do a

middle and a clean end how do we do a clean beginning we expect conflict to

clean beginning we expect conflict to

clean beginning we expect conflict to happen conflict shouldn’t break out in

happen conflict shouldn’t break out in

happen conflict shouldn’t break out in decision-making you’re not in a process

decision-making you’re not in a process

decision-making you’re not in a process of trying to decide should we do a or B

of trying to decide should we do a or B

of trying to decide should we do a or B some important decision in life and

some important decision in life and

some important decision in life and conflict breaks out you should schedule

conflict breaks out you should schedule

conflict breaks out you should schedule it into the process we know that next

it into the process we know that next

it into the process we know that next Tuesday at 8 we’re going to engage in a

Tuesday at 8 we’re going to engage in a

Tuesday at 8 we’re going to engage in a discussion about whether your

discussion about whether your

discussion about whether your organization should grow this way or

organization should grow this way or

organization should grow this way or that way

that way

that way a couple’s about the decision so we buy

a couple’s about the decision so we buy

a couple’s about the decision so we buy a new house should we remodel this house

a new house should we remodel this house

a new house should we remodel this house well let’s fight about it let’s have

well let’s fight about it let’s have

well let’s fight about it let’s have conflict let’s think about what are the

conflict let’s think about what are the

conflict let’s think about what are the pros and cons of a what are the pros and

pros and cons of a what are the pros and

pros and cons of a what are the pros and cons of B we’re about ready to make the

cons of B we’re about ready to make the

cons of B we’re about ready to make the decision to do something one of the

decision to do something one of the

decision to do something one of the questions I love to ask when I’m ready

questions I love to ask when I’m ready

questions I love to ask when I’m ready to make a decision is why might this be

to make a decision is why might this be

to make a decision is why might this be a really dumb decision because I’ve made

a really dumb decision because I’ve made

a really dumb decision because I’ve made decisions in life that were really dumb

decisions in life that were really dumb

decisions in life that were really dumb decisions but I figured that out all too

decisions but I figured that out all too

decisions but I figured that out all too often after I made the decision asking

often after I made the decision asking

often after I made the decision asking the question why might this be a really

the question why might this be a really

the question why might this be a really dumb decision and encouraging conflict

dumb decision and encouraging conflict

dumb decision and encouraging conflict before it blows up is the way you want

before it blows up is the way you want

before it blows up is the way you want to do this thing you schedule conflict

to do this thing you schedule conflict

to do this thing you schedule conflict into the process and then you manage the

into the process and then you manage the

into the process and then you manage the middle just as in sports there are rules

middle just as in sports there are rules

middle just as in sports there are rules and there’s consequences for violating

and there’s consequences for violating

and there’s consequences for violating rules you have a code of conduct in this

rules you have a code of conduct in this

rules you have a code of conduct in this organization in this relationship this

organization in this relationship this

organization in this relationship this is how we’re going to manage conflict

is how we’re going to manage conflict

is how we’re going to manage conflict when we have conflict it won’t get

when we have conflict it won’t get

when we have conflict it won’t get personal you’re not allowed to call each

personal you’re not allowed to call each

personal you’re not allowed to call each other people other people’s names you

other people other people’s names you

other people other people’s names you have to give people timeouts if they

have to give people timeouts if they

have to give people timeouts if they want whatever your rules are but you

want whatever your rules are but you

want whatever your rules are but you have a code of conduct and you have a

have a code of conduct and you have a

have a code of conduct and you have a way to enforce it one of the

way to enforce it one of the

way to enforce it one of the organization’s I work with they have a

organization’s I work with they have a

organization’s I work with they have a bunch of stuff fish in all their meeting

bunch of stuff fish in all their meeting

bunch of stuff fish in all their meeting rooms a little plush ones not the you

rooms a little plush ones not the you

rooms a little plush ones not the you know I caught this trophy fish thing and

know I caught this trophy fish thing and

know I caught this trophy fish thing and if I think you violated the code of

if I think you violated the code of

if I think you violated the code of conduct I pick up one of these fish and

conduct I pick up one of these fish and

conduct I pick up one of these fish and throw it at you but first of all can you

throw it at you but first of all can you

throw it at you but first of all can you really get mad at somebody for throwing

really get mad at somebody for throwing

really get mad at somebody for throwing a stuffed fish at you I mean you’d this

a stuffed fish at you I mean you’d this

a stuffed fish at you I mean you’d this should lighten the mood a bit and the

should lighten the mood a bit and the

should lighten the mood a bit and the concept is you just did something fishy

concept is you just did something fishy

concept is you just did something fishy and so then the meeting stops we move

and so then the meeting stops we move

and so then the meeting stops we move from having debate about this

from having debate about this

from having debate about this – how do we deal with this violation of

– how do we deal with this violation of

– how do we deal with this violation of the code of conduct you need some

the code of conduct you need some

the code of conduct you need some methodology that says these are rules

methodology that says these are rules

methodology that says these are rules when we have conflict this is how we’re

when we have conflict this is how we’re

when we have conflict this is how we’re going to do it and if you play outside

going to do it and if you play outside

going to do it and if you play outside of those rules there are consequences

of those rules there are consequences

of those rules there are consequences you need to manage the conflict you need

you need to manage the conflict you need

you need to manage the conflict you need to recognize that some people think fast

to recognize that some people think fast

to recognize that some people think fast I’m a fast thinker put me into a debate

I’m a fast thinker put me into a debate

I’m a fast thinker put me into a debate I can come up with an analysis right

I can come up with an analysis right

I can come up with an analysis right away go my wife is a slow I used to say

away go my wife is a slow I used to say

away go my wife is a slow I used to say thinker she objects to that she it’s

thinker she objects to that she it’s

thinker she objects to that she it’s she’s a slow processor I do want to be

she’s a slow processor I do want to be

she’s a slow processor I do want to be clear I’m not standing in front of a

clear I’m not standing in front of a

clear I’m not standing in front of a group of folks saying my wife is a slow

group of folks saying my wife is a slow

group of folks saying my wife is a slow thinker

thinker

thinker some people think fast some think slow

some people think fast some think slow

some people think fast some think slow if I’m managing conflict now I’ve got

if I’m managing conflict now I’ve got

if I’m managing conflict now I’ve got fast thinkers and slow processors and I

fast thinkers and slow processors and I

fast thinkers and slow processors and I put them in a room and say go make the

put them in a room and say go make the

put them in a room and say go make the decision now the fast thinkers are fine

decision now the fast thinkers are fine

decision now the fast thinkers are fine the slow process are frustrated because

the slow process are frustrated because

the slow process are frustrated because they didn’t get time to think about it

they didn’t get time to think about it

they didn’t get time to think about it so the conflict breaks down we need to

so the conflict breaks down we need to

so the conflict breaks down we need to manage the conflict in such a way that

manage the conflict in such a way that

manage the conflict in such a way that the fast thinkers and the slow

the fast thinkers and the slow

the fast thinkers and the slow processors all get their turn we need to

processors all get their turn we need to

processors all get their turn we need to keep a motion out of it have you ever

keep a motion out of it have you ever

keep a motion out of it have you ever been in conflict where you said

been in conflict where you said

been in conflict where you said something that you knew had no shot of

something that you knew had no shot of

something that you knew had no shot of helping to resolve the issue no shot at

helping to resolve the issue no shot at

helping to resolve the issue no shot at making this all get better and instead

making this all get better and instead

making this all get better and instead what it was gonna do is make it worse

what it was gonna do is make it worse

what it was gonna do is make it worse but it was gonna feel really good to say

but it was gonna feel really good to say

but it was gonna feel really good to say it again I do not need a show of you but

it again I do not need a show of you but

it again I do not need a show of you but and somebody’s got two hands up again on

and somebody’s got two hands up again on

and somebody’s got two hands up again on that one no don’t do that that does not

that one no don’t do that that does not

that one no don’t do that that does not help you have to find a way to control

help you have to find a way to control

help you have to find a way to control your emotions you have to find a way to

your emotions you have to find a way to

your emotions you have to find a way to control the emotions of other

control the emotions of other

control the emotions of other individuals so that we can have conflict

individuals so that we can have conflict

individuals so that we can have conflict without it getting emotional loads of

without it getting emotional loads of

without it getting emotional loads of ways to do that and that would be a

ways to do that and that would be a

ways to do that and that would be a whole nother talk but fundamentally

whole nother talk but fundamentally

whole nother talk but fundamentally remind yourself that it doesn’t matter

remind yourself that it doesn’t matter

remind yourself that it doesn’t matter in the big picture of life so why most

in the big picture of life so why most

in the big picture of life so why most of things we have conflict over laying

of things we have conflict over laying

of things we have conflict over laying on your deathbed are you gonna care

on your deathbed are you gonna care

on your deathbed are you gonna care laying on your deathbed I’m gonna think

laying on your deathbed I’m gonna think

laying on your deathbed I’m gonna think about my spouse and my children maybe a

about my spouse and my children maybe a

about my spouse and my children maybe a little bit else most of stuff we have

little bit else most of stuff we have

little bit else most of stuff we have conflict on the big picture it doesn’t

conflict on the big picture it doesn’t

conflict on the big picture it doesn’t matter

matter

matter don’t let yourself get emotionally upset

don’t let yourself get emotionally upset

don’t let yourself get emotionally upset and it’s not going to help

and it’s not going to help

and it’s not going to help well manage middles

well manage middles

well manage middles and a clean ending you need a clean end

and a clean ending you need a clean end

and a clean ending you need a clean end conflict cannot drag on and on it it

conflict cannot drag on and on it it

conflict cannot drag on and on it it paralysis by analysis we never make a

paralysis by analysis we never make a

paralysis by analysis we never make a decision the organization a couple of

decision the organization a couple of

decision the organization a couple of whoever don’t move forward but beyond

whoever don’t move forward but beyond

whoever don’t move forward but beyond that the conflict that drags on and on

that the conflict that drags on and on

that the conflict that drags on and on and on inevitably becomes dysfunctional

and on inevitably becomes dysfunctional

and on inevitably becomes dysfunctional so what you want to do is have a clean

so what you want to do is have a clean

so what you want to do is have a clean end and what we love in organizations is

end and what we love in organizations is

end and what we love in organizations is we have consensus so we got everybody in

we have consensus so we got everybody in

we have consensus so we got everybody in the room we had a discussion we had a

the room we had a discussion we had a

the room we had a discussion we had a debate side a side B we had the

debate side a side B we had the

debate side a side B we had the discussion we had a nice debate okay

discussion we had a nice debate okay

discussion we had a nice debate okay what does everybody really think and now

what does everybody really think and now

what does everybody really think and now we’ve all agreed that we want to do a

we’ve all agreed that we want to do a

we’ve all agreed that we want to do a I’m an HR person by training the

I’m an HR person by training the

I’m an HR person by training the accusation against us is we can’t make a

accusation against us is we can’t make a

accusation against us is we can’t make a decision unless we first all hold hands

decision unless we first all hold hands

decision unless we first all hold hands sing Kumbaya and make sure everybody

sing Kumbaya and make sure everybody

sing Kumbaya and make sure everybody feels good which is kind of true about

feels good which is kind of true about

feels good which is kind of true about HR types but sometimes we can’t get to

HR types but sometimes we can’t get to

HR types but sometimes we can’t get to consensus sometimes in organization

consensus sometimes in organization

consensus sometimes in organization somebody needs to stand up I do a lot of

somebody needs to stand up I do a lot of

somebody needs to stand up I do a lot of work in family businesses and say look

work in family businesses and say look

work in family businesses and say look I’ve heard sigh day I’ve heard side B it

I’ve heard sigh day I’ve heard side B it

I’ve heard sigh day I’ve heard side B it turns out my name is on the building and

turns out my name is on the building and

turns out my name is on the building and I’ve decided the answer is a I love

I’ve decided the answer is a I love

I’ve decided the answer is a I love consensus but don’t be afraid to have a

consensus but don’t be afraid to have a

consensus but don’t be afraid to have a methodology that says this is how we

methodology that says this is how we

methodology that says this is how we will end the debate we will not let this

will end the debate we will not let this

will end the debate we will not let this thing drag on and on somebody will end

thing drag on and on somebody will end

thing drag on and on somebody will end it and my experience has been even if I

it and my experience has been even if I

it and my experience has been even if I quote lose I the decision is made not

quote lose I the decision is made not

quote lose I the decision is made not the direction I wanted that’s okay I

the direction I wanted that’s okay I

the direction I wanted that’s okay I don’t get mad at that as long as I felt

don’t get mad at that as long as I felt

don’t get mad at that as long as I felt like I was heard as long as I felt like

like I was heard as long as I felt like

like I was heard as long as I felt like my opinion was considered you never ask

my opinion was considered you never ask

my opinion was considered you never ask somebody their opinion unless you really

somebody their opinion unless you really

somebody their opinion unless you really want it but if you listen to it you hear

want it but if you listen to it you hear

want it but if you listen to it you hear it in the debate you recognize it echo

it in the debate you recognize it echo

it in the debate you recognize it echo it back and then make a decision to go

it back and then make a decision to go

it back and then make a decision to go another direction my experience has been

another direction my experience has been

another direction my experience has been in organizations people’s like all right

in organizations people’s like all right

in organizations people’s like all right that’s fine fundamentally the argument

that’s fine fundamentally the argument

that’s fine fundamentally the argument is conflict is a wonderful thing in

is conflict is a wonderful thing in

is conflict is a wonderful thing in decision-making if done right your job

decision-making if done right your job

decision-making if done right your job in decision-making is to be a thermostat

in decision-making is to be a thermostat

in decision-making is to be a thermostat if there’s not enough conflict you need

if there’s not enough conflict you need

if there’s not enough conflict you need to turn it up if there’s too much

to turn it up if there’s too much

to turn it up if there’s too much conflict you got to turn it down you’ve

conflict you got to turn it down you’ve

conflict you got to turn it down you’ve got to keep conflict in the functional

got to keep conflict in the functional

got to keep conflict in the functional non personal focusing on the outcome

non personal focusing on the outcome

non personal focusing on the outcome you’ve got to have a process that avoids

you’ve got to have a process that avoids

you’ve got to have a process that avoids conflict moving into the dysfunctional

conflict moving into the dysfunctional

conflict moving into the dysfunctional becoming

becoming

becoming personal and if you do that I am

personal and if you do that I am

personal and if you do that I am confident that you will have better

confident that you will have better

confident that you will have better decisions thank you and have a good day

decisions thank you and have a good day

decisions thank you and have a good day [Applause]

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