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Why cities should house the farms of the future | Claire Hubbard | TEDxLondonSalon


I’m here talk to you about growing up in

I’m here talk to you about growing up in the countryside being surrounded by

the countryside being surrounded by

the countryside being surrounded by farmland be watching crops grow

farmland be watching crops grow

farmland be watching crops grow harvested and being able to buy direct

harvested and being able to buy direct

harvested and being able to buy direct from farm shops but then the other day

from farm shops but then the other day

from farm shops but then the other day in London I was watching a van unload

in London I was watching a van unload

in London I was watching a van unload now to slogan on the side and it said as

now to slogan on the side and it said as

now to slogan on the side and it said as fresh as it can get and it was unloading

fresh as it can get and it was unloading

fresh as it can get and it was unloading strawberries into a restaurant and then

strawberries into a restaurant and then

strawberries into a restaurant and then it made me wonder do we believe slogans

it made me wonder do we believe slogans

it made me wonder do we believe slogans do we ever ask the question especially

do we ever ask the question especially

do we ever ask the question especially when eating out where has our food

when eating out where has our food

when eating out where has our food actually come from was it part of last

actually come from was it part of last

actually come from was it part of last year’s bumper crop stored it just the

year’s bumper crop stored it just the

year’s bumper crop stored it just the perfect conditions to now be available

perfect conditions to now be available

perfect conditions to now be available still was it imported or is their

still was it imported or is their

still was it imported or is their technology available that’s allowing a

technology available that’s allowing a

technology available that’s allowing a farmer to grow strawberries here in

farmer to grow strawberries here in

farmer to grow strawberries here in March how many of you here want to eat

March how many of you here want to eat

March how many of you here want to eat seasonally by UK produce foods support

seasonally by UK produce foods support

seasonally by UK produce foods support the British farming industry or buy

the British farming industry or buy

the British farming industry or buy local produce in order to reduce your

local produce in order to reduce your

local produce in order to reduce your food miles in your carbon footprint but

food miles in your carbon footprint but

food miles in your carbon footprint but baby work full time and that local green

baby work full time and that local green

baby work full time and that local green grocers on the way home closes at five

grocers on the way home closes at five

grocers on the way home closes at five o’clock so you rarely make it there on

o’clock so you rarely make it there on

o’clock so you rarely make it there on time or baby of a busy social life

time or baby of a busy social life

time or baby of a busy social life planned for your week ahead and you

planned for your week ahead and you

planned for your week ahead and you don’t want to buy things in that you

don’t want to buy things in that you

don’t want to buy things in that you probably won’t get round to eating

probably won’t get round to eating

probably won’t get round to eating before they pass their best or a family

before they pass their best or a family

before they pass their best or a family to juggle and that local weekly Sunday

to juggle and that local weekly Sunday

to juggle and that local weekly Sunday farmers market just isn’t sufficient for

farmers market just isn’t sufficient for

farmers market just isn’t sufficient for that big shop and so if you’re anything

that big shop and so if you’re anything

that big shop and so if you’re anything like me if it’s not being ordered online

like me if it’s not being ordered online

like me if it’s not being ordered online then it’s a trip to the local

then it’s a trip to the local

then it’s a trip to the local supermarket it’s easy it’s convenient

supermarket it’s easy it’s convenient

supermarket it’s easy it’s convenient and it’s what we’ve become accustomed to

and it’s what we’ve become accustomed to

and it’s what we’ve become accustomed to over the past 30 years it’s a place

over the past 30 years it’s a place

over the past 30 years it’s a place where seduced into to quote a phrase

where seduced into to quote a phrase

where seduced into to quote a phrase coined by food writer Johanna Blythe

coined by food writer Johanna Blythe

coined by food writer Johanna Blythe Minh was seduced into shopping in a

Minh was seduced into shopping in a

Minh was seduced into shopping in a permanent global summertime aisles a

permanent global summertime aisles a

permanent global summertime aisles a freshly colored produce readily

freshly colored produce readily

freshly colored produce readily available with very little seasonality

available with very little seasonality

available with very little seasonality do we ever question that we might pay

do we ever question that we might pay

do we ever question that we might pay attention to the country of our

attention to the country of our

attention to the country of our virgin that bag of baby spinach arrived

virgin that bag of baby spinach arrived

virgin that bag of baby spinach arrived here from Morocco but maybe you watched

here from Morocco but maybe you watched

here from Morocco but maybe you watched a recipe video on social media earlier

a recipe video on social media earlier

a recipe video on social media earlier and you have to make it now before you

and you have to make it now before you

and you have to make it now before you forget about it forever I’m sure I’m not

forget about it forever I’m sure I’m not

forget about it forever I’m sure I’m not the only person here who’s seen a recipe

the only person here who’s seen a recipe

the only person here who’s seen a recipe online and then rushed out and purchase

online and then rushed out and purchase

online and then rushed out and purchase an ingredient that they’d never even

an ingredient that they’d never even

an ingredient that they’d never even heard of before but living this way when

heard of before but living this way when

heard of before but living this way when we’re in the city it can’t remain the

we’re in the city it can’t remain the

we’re in the city it can’t remain the norm in the 1980’s the global population

norm in the 1980’s the global population

norm in the 1980’s the global population stood at 4.5 billion today that figure

stood at 4.5 billion today that figure

stood at 4.5 billion today that figure is 7 billion people with around half

is 7 billion people with around half

is 7 billion people with around half living in an urban area and it’s a

living in an urban area and it’s a

living in an urban area and it’s a widely accepted prediction that by 2050

widely accepted prediction that by 2050

widely accepted prediction that by 2050 that figure is going to be 10 billion

that figure is going to be 10 billion

that figure is going to be 10 billion for the most half living in an urban

for the most half living in an urban

for the most half living in an urban area and put some kind of context on

area and put some kind of context on

area and put some kind of context on that growth from now until 2050 that’s

that growth from now until 2050 that’s

that growth from now until 2050 that’s taking the entire population of China

taking the entire population of China

taking the entire population of China and India plus a few million more and

and India plus a few million more and

and India plus a few million more and adding it together or to bring it closer

adding it together or to bring it closer

adding it together or to bring it closer to home is the current population of the

to home is the current population of the

to home is the current population of the United Kingdom x a hundred and fifty

United Kingdom x a hundred and fifty

United Kingdom x a hundred and fifty three that’s a lot more people to feed

three that’s a lot more people to feed

three that’s a lot more people to feed and a lot more people being totally

and a lot more people being totally

and a lot more people being totally disconnected from their food supply

disconnected from their food supply

disconnected from their food supply chain consider the pressure will replace

chain consider the pressure will replace

chain consider the pressure will replace more natural resources currently seventy

more natural resources currently seventy

more natural resources currently seventy percent of fresh water consumption is

percent of fresh water consumption is

percent of fresh water consumption is used in agriculture all of that water

used in agriculture all of that water

used in agriculture all of that water that we pour into the land with only

that we pour into the land with only

that we pour into the land with only small amount being taken up by the plant

small amount being taken up by the plant

small amount being taken up by the plant itself but what about when there’s a

itself but what about when there’s a

itself but what about when there’s a flood or a drought as we’ve seen in

flood or a drought as we’ve seen in

flood or a drought as we’ve seen in recent months food rationing is

recent months food rationing is

recent months food rationing is introduced and yes some of us may have

introduced and yes some of us may have

introduced and yes some of us may have found the food rationing slightly

found the food rationing slightly

found the food rationing slightly amusing on the ice web lettuces because

amusing on the ice web lettuces because

amusing on the ice web lettuces because has anyone ever purchased three iceberg

has anyone ever purchased three iceberg

has anyone ever purchased three iceberg lettuce at one time it’s served to

lettuce at one time it’s served to

lettuce at one time it’s served to highlight the fragility of our food

highlight the fragility of our food

highlight the fragility of our food supply chain and food security in

supply chain and food security in

supply chain and food security in general both the topics we need to

general both the topics we need to

general both the topics we need to seriously start thinking about the salad

seriously start thinking about the salad

seriously start thinking about the salad shortage of 2017 may seem like they’ve

shortage of 2017 may seem like they’ve

shortage of 2017 may seem like they’ve passed this now but that’s only because

passed this now but that’s only because

passed this now but that’s only because supermarkets have source of produce from

supermarkets have source of produce from

supermarkets have source of produce from further afield and discussions indicate

further afield and discussions indicate

further afield and discussions indicate that this

that this

that this in a blip but the potentially the start

in a blip but the potentially the start

in a blip but the potentially the start of things to come country should be

of things to come country should be

of things to come country should be looking after their own population

looking after their own population

looking after their own population before exporting so is the answer to

before exporting so is the answer to

before exporting so is the answer to only eat UK produce when it’s in season

only eat UK produce when it’s in season

only eat UK produce when it’s in season well not necessarily as the University

well not necessarily as the University

well not necessarily as the University of Sheffield carried out research that

of Sheffield carried out research that

of Sheffield carried out research that showed some of the UK’s countryside has

showed some of the UK’s countryside has

showed some of the UK’s countryside has only a hundred harvest left in it with

only a hundred harvest left in it with

only a hundred harvest left in it with some urban plots of soil being richer in

some urban plots of soil being richer in

some urban plots of soil being richer in nutrients than some farmland so that’s

nutrients than some farmland so that’s

nutrients than some farmland so that’s more reason for us all to go out and

more reason for us all to go out and

more reason for us all to go out and grow our own on the Fertile rich soil of

grow our own on the Fertile rich soil of

grow our own on the Fertile rich soil of the city or good luck because my local

the city or good luck because my local

the city or good luck because my local London allotment closed our waiting list

London allotment closed our waiting list

London allotment closed our waiting list five years ago and that list still has

five years ago and that list still has

five years ago and that list still has 200 people on it so maybe we need to

200 people on it so maybe we need to

200 people on it so maybe we need to stop looking out onto the horizon for

stop looking out onto the horizon for

stop looking out onto the horizon for better growing methods maybe we need to

better growing methods maybe we need to

better growing methods maybe we need to look up maybe we need to look for a

look up maybe we need to look for a

look up maybe we need to look for a vertical growing revolution and that’s

vertical growing revolution and that’s

vertical growing revolution and that’s what we’re doing at grub urban farms

what we’re doing at grub urban farms

what we’re doing at grub urban farms we’re the uk’s first commercial

we’re the uk’s first commercial

we’re the uk’s first commercial aquaponic vertical farm and we’re doing

aquaponic vertical farm and we’re doing

aquaponic vertical farm and we’re doing it all from a warehouse in East London

it all from a warehouse in East London

it all from a warehouse in East London so we have fish and the fish we use take

so we have fish and the fish we use take

so we have fish and the fish we use take their waste and we store the

their waste and we store the

their waste and we store the nutrient-rich water until it’s required

nutrient-rich water until it’s required

nutrient-rich water until it’s required by the plants in which turn we flood the

by the plants in which turn we flood the

by the plants in which turn we flood the benches or irrigate the plants and the

benches or irrigate the plants and the

benches or irrigate the plants and the roots filter the water that then get

roots filter the water that then get

roots filter the water that then get recirculated back to the fish and we’re

recirculated back to the fish and we’re

recirculated back to the fish and we’re growing salad greens micro green salad

growing salad greens micro green salad

growing salad greens micro green salad leaves micro greens and herbs and these

leaves micro greens and herbs and these

leaves micro greens and herbs and these are some of the most perishable of all

are some of the most perishable of all

are some of the most perishable of all produce if you’re flying it in how long

produce if you’re flying it in how long

produce if you’re flying it in how long has it taken to get from the farm to

has it taken to get from the farm to

has it taken to get from the farm to your plate and we’ll use it with not

your plate and we’ll use it with not

your plate and we’ll use it with not using soil with sowing seeds by hand on

using soil with sowing seeds by hand on

using soil with sowing seeds by hand on recycled carpet with seeding harvesting

recycled carpet with seeding harvesting

recycled carpet with seeding harvesting and packaging by real humans we’ve

and packaging by real humans we’ve

and packaging by real humans we’ve created permanent jobs in an industry

created permanent jobs in an industry

created permanent jobs in an industry mostly associated with seasonal workers

mostly associated with seasonal workers

mostly associated with seasonal workers and we’re paying a London living wage a

and we’re paying a London living wage a

and we’re paying a London living wage a regular salary in an industry being

regular salary in an industry being

regular salary in an industry being propped up by us as consumers are

propped up by us as consumers are

propped up by us as consumers are constant desire to buy cheaper foods and

constant desire to buy cheaper foods and

constant desire to buy cheaper foods and also what we’re doing isn’t new

also what we’re doing isn’t new

also what we’re doing isn’t new technology traditional farmers in China

technology traditional farmers in China

technology traditional farmers in China would quite often add fish to their

would quite often add fish to their

would quite often add fish to their flooded rice paddy fields and when the

flooded rice paddy fields and when the

flooded rice paddy fields and when the harvest when it was ready to harvest

harvest when it was ready to harvest

harvest when it was ready to harvest then the farmer had fish and rice but on

then the farmer had fish and rice but on

then the farmer had fish and rice but on the farm we are also reducing delivery

the farm we are also reducing delivery

the farm we are also reducing delivery times we can harvest package and deliver

times we can harvest package and deliver

times we can harvest package and deliver all on the same day so if you’re talking

all on the same day so if you’re talking

all on the same day so if you’re talking about solids that’s an extra three to

about solids that’s an extra three to

about solids that’s an extra three to five days of shelf life so hopefully

five days of shelf life so hopefully

five days of shelf life so hopefully going some way to reduce your food waste

going some way to reduce your food waste

going some way to reduce your food waste so our farm we have 12 fish tanks and

so our farm we have 12 fish tanks and

so our farm we have 12 fish tanks and they contain to lapeer and these are a

they contain to lapeer and these are a

they contain to lapeer and these are a fresh white water fish and if you’ve had

fresh white water fish and if you’ve had

fresh white water fish and if you’ve had a fish curry recently then you’ve most

a fish curry recently then you’ve most

a fish curry recently then you’ve most likely eaten tilapia and they’re great

likely eaten tilapia and they’re great

likely eaten tilapia and they’re great fish for farming due to their feed

fish for farming due to their feed

fish for farming due to their feed conversion ratio it takes around 1.2

conversion ratio it takes around 1.2

conversion ratio it takes around 1.2 kilos of feed to enable a fish to grow

kilos of feed to enable a fish to grow

kilos of feed to enable a fish to grow one kilo in size now if you compare that

one kilo in size now if you compare that

one kilo in size now if you compare that to cattle that requires eight kilos of

to cattle that requires eight kilos of

to cattle that requires eight kilos of feed in order to obtain one kilo of meat

feed in order to obtain one kilo of meat

feed in order to obtain one kilo of meat so it’s a sustainable source of protein

so it’s a sustainable source of protein

so it’s a sustainable source of protein and then our grow room we have eight

and then our grow room we have eight

and then our grow room we have eight benches which are all ten floors high

benches which are all ten floors high

benches which are all ten floors high and that’s 16 square meters of floor

and that’s 16 square meters of floor

and that’s 16 square meters of floor space converted into a hundred and sixty

space converted into a hundred and sixty

space converted into a hundred and sixty square metres of actual growing space

square metres of actual growing space

square metres of actual growing space but that one hundred and square 160

but that one hundred and square 160

but that one hundred and square 160 square meters will get you around

square meters will get you around

square meters will get you around 200,000 bags of salad a year that’s a

200,000 bags of salad a year that’s a

200,000 bags of salad a year that’s a 3800 people a bag of salad a week so

3800 people a bag of salad a week so

3800 people a bag of salad a week so we’re going to be a little short if we

we’re going to be a little short if we

we’re going to be a little short if we want to feed the city so let’s not end

want to feed the city so let’s not end

want to feed the city so let’s not end it here let’s dream big if you go to the

it here let’s dream big if you go to the

it here let’s dream big if you go to the outskirts of any city you’ll find

outskirts of any city you’ll find

outskirts of any city you’ll find industrial parks empty warehouses once

industrial parks empty warehouses once

industrial parks empty warehouses once home to businesses that have now gone

home to businesses that have now gone

home to businesses that have now gone overseas to cheaper locations we can

overseas to cheaper locations we can

overseas to cheaper locations we can turn them into farms we could put 10

turn them into farms we could put 10

turn them into farms we could put 10 times the number of fish tanks that

times the number of fish tanks that

times the number of fish tanks that would then be the ability to produce

would then be the ability to produce

would then be the ability to produce 48,000 fish year and if we’re going ten

48,000 fish year and if we’re going ten

48,000 fish year and if we’re going ten times the size let’s go ten times of

times the size let’s go ten times of

times the size let’s go ten times of floor space in the grow room and then go

floor space in the grow room and then go

floor space in the grow room and then go twice the height that would then be the

twice the height that would then be the

twice the height that would then be the ability to produce four million bags of

ability to produce four million bags of

ability to produce four million bags of salad a year that’s 80,000 people a week

salad a year that’s 80,000 people a week

salad a year that’s 80,000 people a week but we’re only limited by our size so

but we’re only limited by our size so

but we’re only limited by our size so let’s go Depot size and if we’re going

let’s go Depot size and if we’re going

let’s go Depot size and if we’re going deep oh sorry

deep oh sorry

deep oh sorry we could diversify the crop range if we

we could diversify the crop range if we

we could diversify the crop range if we wanted to they might need more height to

wanted to they might need more height to

wanted to they might need more height to grow or maybe the plants would need more

grow or maybe the plants would need more

grow or maybe the plants would need more time than the salad leaves we currently

time than the salad leaves we currently

time than the salad leaves we currently grow well maybe they need more lighting

grow well maybe they need more lighting

grow well maybe they need more lighting but if we’re obtaining it from a

but if we’re obtaining it from a

but if we’re obtaining it from a renewable energy source then why not and

renewable energy source then why not and

renewable energy source then why not and then the next mission we want to reduce

then the next mission we want to reduce

then the next mission we want to reduce food miles and every city every major

food miles and every city every major

food miles and every city every major town has empty warehouses let’s turn

town has empty warehouses let’s turn

town has empty warehouses let’s turn them into farms let’s bring food and

them into farms let’s bring food and

them into farms let’s bring food and employment to each city and then let’s

employment to each city and then let’s

employment to each city and then let’s look at closing the circuit even more we

look at closing the circuit even more we

look at closing the circuit even more we could feed the fish insects or but a

could feed the fish insects or but a

could feed the fish insects or but a farm near to an energy source say a

farm near to an energy source say a

farm near to an energy source say a manufacturing plant here instead of

manufacturing plant here instead of

manufacturing plant here instead of releasing all of their heat into the

releasing all of their heat into the

releasing all of their heat into the atmosphere we could use it to power the

atmosphere we could use it to power the

atmosphere we could use it to power the farm let’s look at ways to console let’s

farm let’s look at ways to console let’s

farm let’s look at ways to console let’s keep looking at way to constantly close

keep looking at way to constantly close

keep looking at way to constantly close down that circuit let’s ensure we keep a

down that circuit let’s ensure we keep a

down that circuit let’s ensure we keep a level of food security for future

level of food security for future

level of food security for future generations that we have been so lucky

generations that we have been so lucky

generations that we have been so lucky enough to enjoy let’s make sure we keep

enough to enjoy let’s make sure we keep

enough to enjoy let’s make sure we keep food diversity to which we’ve become so

food diversity to which we’ve become so

food diversity to which we’ve become so accustomed to without having to search

accustomed to without having to search

accustomed to without having to search for it from further and further afield

for it from further and further afield

for it from further and further afield let’s make sure we don’t eat a way off

let’s make sure we don’t eat a way off

let’s make sure we don’t eat a way off this planet

this planet

this planet [Applause]

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