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What’s progress? | Cristina Gabetti | TEDxBolognaSalon


I have roots in two countries in Italy

I have roots in two countries in Italy and in the United States I have roots on

and in the United States I have roots on

and in the United States I have roots on this planet and I feel deeply connected

this planet and I feel deeply connected

this planet and I feel deeply connected to nature and I love it some might call

to nature and I love it some might call

to nature and I love it some might call me a tree hugger but I don’t really hug

me a tree hugger but I don’t really hug

me a tree hugger but I don’t really hug trees it goes more like this

trees it goes more like this

trees it goes more like this put your hands delicately on a trunk

put your hands delicately on a trunk

put your hands delicately on a trunk feel the temperature feel the texture of

feel the temperature feel the texture of

feel the temperature feel the texture of the bark you might not get much energy

the bark you might not get much energy

the bark you might not get much energy first but if you couple what we know

first but if you couple what we know

first but if you couple what we know trees breathe right and you imagine the

trees breathe right and you imagine the

trees breathe right and you imagine the lymph flowing after a while scepticism

lymph flowing after a while scepticism

lymph flowing after a while scepticism gives way to something quite powerful

gives way to something quite powerful

gives way to something quite powerful and regenerating in fact when we’re in

and regenerating in fact when we’re in

and regenerating in fact when we’re in forests chemicals named Fito cyanides

forests chemicals named Fito cyanides

forests chemicals named Fito cyanides pour upon us they balance our immune

pour upon us they balance our immune

pour upon us they balance our immune systems they balance our entire

systems they balance our entire

systems they balance our entire well-being I’m rooted in the communities

well-being I’m rooted in the communities

well-being I’m rooted in the communities that have shaped me and that continue to

that have shaped me and that continue to

that have shaped me and that continue to forge new relations in fact in our

forge new relations in fact in our

forge new relations in fact in our communities in our places we are tribal

communities in our places we are tribal

communities in our places we are tribal by nature we strive to evolve but when

by nature we strive to evolve but when

by nature we strive to evolve but when we pan out the picture gets messy

we pan out the picture gets messy

we pan out the picture gets messy collectively we forget one we’re one big

collectively we forget one we’re one big

collectively we forget one we’re one big family we forget we share this home but

family we forget we share this home but

family we forget we share this home but we have a tool embedded in us that

we have a tool embedded in us that

we have a tool embedded in us that allows us to feel with others that tool

allows us to feel with others that tool

allows us to feel with others that tool is empathy and while it’s easy to get

is empathy and while it’s easy to get

is empathy and while it’s easy to get lost in what we know for example in the

lost in what we know for example in the

lost in what we know for example in the span of my lifetime the population the

span of my lifetime the population the

span of my lifetime the population the human population is more than doubled

human population is more than doubled

human population is more than doubled and we’ve lost 50,000 species it’s

and we’ve lost 50,000 species it’s

and we’ve lost 50,000 species it’s difficult to ignore how we feel so

difficult to ignore how we feel so

difficult to ignore how we feel so please allow yourself to feel while I

please allow yourself to feel while I

please allow yourself to feel while I ask you to come with me on a journey to

ask you to come with me on a journey to

ask you to come with me on a journey to the Mergui archipelago 800 Islands

the Mergui archipelago 800 Islands

the Mergui archipelago 800 Islands largely unexplored in the Andaman

largely unexplored in the Andaman

largely unexplored in the Andaman see off the southern coast of Myanmar

see off the southern coast of Myanmar

see off the southern coast of Myanmar near Thailand the indigenous people

near Thailand the indigenous people

near Thailand the indigenous people Mogens

Mogens

Mogens are sea gypsies only about 2,000

are sea gypsies only about 2,000

are sea gypsies only about 2,000 individuals survived today their

individuals survived today their

individuals survived today their lifestyle nomadic lifestyle is based on

lifestyle nomadic lifestyle is based on

lifestyle nomadic lifestyle is based on trade and it’s threatened by meager

trade and it’s threatened by meager

trade and it’s threatened by meager catches and by their uncertain legal

catches and by their uncertain legal

catches and by their uncertain legal status so that when they encounter

status so that when they encounter

status so that when they encounter police on the water they can’t prove

police on the water they can’t prove

police on the water they can’t prove where they were born so they’re taken to

where they were born so they’re taken to

where they were born so they’re taken to land they’re given identity cards in

land they’re given identity cards in

land they’re given identity cards in they’re forced to settle which for a

they’re forced to settle which for a

they’re forced to settle which for a nomad equals prison we were told during

nomad equals prison we were told during

nomad equals prison we were told during a trip which was a sailing expedition it

a trip which was a sailing expedition it

a trip which was a sailing expedition it was unlikely that we would encounter

was unlikely that we would encounter

was unlikely that we would encounter these people so when we saw this

these people so when we saw this

these people so when we saw this flotilla we were very happy the next day

flotilla we were very happy the next day

flotilla we were very happy the next day we approached this island and while we

we approached this island and while we

we approached this island and while we were drawn by the houses on stilts we

were drawn by the houses on stilts we

were drawn by the houses on stilts we rather questioned that large cement

rather questioned that large cement

rather questioned that large cement structure but there was not enough time

structure but there was not enough time

structure but there was not enough time to dwell because these children were

to dwell because these children were

to dwell because these children were rowing towards us on their little cabins

rowing towards us on their little cabins

rowing towards us on their little cabins their traditional log boats Moke and

their traditional log boats Moke and

their traditional log boats Moke and children learn to swim before they walk

children learn to swim before they walk

children learn to swim before they walk in fact the name of these people means

in fact the name of these people means

in fact the name of these people means immersed in water and in their natural

immersed in water and in their natural

immersed in water and in their natural element under water they have

element under water they have

element under water they have exceptional eyesight ana lund from the

exceptional eyesight ana lund from the

exceptional eyesight ana lund from the University and a Ghislaine from the

University and a Ghislaine from the

University and a Ghislaine from the University of London Sweden studied this

University of London Sweden studied this

University of London Sweden studied this remarkable trade and she found that in

remarkable trade and she found that in

remarkable trade and she found that in their natural element they see twice as

their natural element they see twice as

their natural element they see twice as well as Western children because they

well as Western children because they

well as Western children because they can shrink their pupils more than any

can shrink their pupils more than any

can shrink their pupils more than any other known human ethnicity and shape

other known human ethnicity and shape

other known human ethnicity and shape the lens in a way similar to seals and

the lens in a way similar to seals and

the lens in a way similar to seals and dolphins so they are basically the

dolphins so they are basically the

dolphins so they are basically the Mogens people who live most intimately

Mogens people who live most intimately

Mogens people who live most intimately with the oceans and you might have heard

with the oceans and you might have heard

with the oceans and you might have heard about them because in December 2004 they

about them because in December 2004 they

about them because in December 2004 they escaped the tsunami they predicted it

escaped the tsunami they predicted it

escaped the tsunami they predicted it the wave that devastated coastal

the wave that devastated coastal

the wave that devastated coastal communities in 12 countries and took an

communities in 12 countries and took an

communities in 12 countries and took an estimated 230,000 lives because

estimated 230,000 lives because

estimated 230,000 lives because generation after generation for

generation after generation for

generation after generation for centuries they kept a story going about

centuries they kept a story going about

centuries they kept a story going about the seventh wave or Laboon according to

the seventh wave or Laboon according to

the seventh wave or Laboon according to the legend a wave that would sweep away

the legend a wave that would sweep away

the legend a wave that would sweep away all evil and make room for new life

all evil and make room for new life

all evil and make room for new life along with the prophecy came the

along with the prophecy came the

along with the prophecy came the knowledge how to detect signs of the

knowledge how to detect signs of the

knowledge how to detect signs of the lagoon through wave patterns and how to

lagoon through wave patterns and how to

lagoon through wave patterns and how to seek Harbor by escaping to the mountains

seek Harbor by escaping to the mountains

seek Harbor by escaping to the mountains or deep in water so when young boys saw

or deep in water so when young boys saw

or deep in water so when young boys saw the tide pull away all of a sudden they

the tide pull away all of a sudden they

the tide pull away all of a sudden they ran to tell the elders only their

ran to tell the elders only their

ran to tell the elders only their villages were destroyed the population

villages were destroyed the population

villages were destroyed the population survived and their story went around the

survived and their story went around the

survived and their story went around the world what I didn’t know at the time was

world what I didn’t know at the time was

world what I didn’t know at the time was that after the tragedy many Mogens were

that after the tragedy many Mogens were

that after the tragedy many Mogens were forced to settle away from the water

forced to settle away from the water

forced to settle away from the water inland they were joined in large

inland they were joined in large

inland they were joined in large communities without ever having shared

communities without ever having shared

communities without ever having shared living grounds before their home was the

living grounds before their home was the

living grounds before their home was the ocean they were given modern facilities

ocean they were given modern facilities

ocean they were given modern facilities such as running water sewage systems

such as running water sewage systems

such as running water sewage systems electricity that they didn’t know how to

electricity that they didn’t know how to

electricity that they didn’t know how to manage while we know everything about

manage while we know everything about

manage while we know everything about what foods are good for us we eat seeds

what foods are good for us we eat seeds

what foods are good for us we eat seeds and wild berries which we call

and wild berries which we call

and wild berries which we call superfoods they were put on fast food as

superfoods they were put on fast food as

superfoods they were put on fast food as their diets shifted to saturated sugars

their diets shifted to saturated sugars

their diets shifted to saturated sugars and fats they developed diseases they

and fats they developed diseases they

and fats they developed diseases they knew nothing about so with the purpose

knew nothing about so with the purpose

knew nothing about so with the purpose of protecting them centuries of

of protecting them centuries of

of protecting them centuries of traditions were erased in a matter of

traditions were erased in a matter of

traditions were erased in a matter of months building techniques and daily

months building techniques and daily

months building techniques and daily rituals how to harvest for food so is

rituals how to harvest for food so is

rituals how to harvest for food so is this progress well let’s go and see

this progress well let’s go and see

this progress well let’s go and see together these children greeting us are

together these children greeting us are

together these children greeting us are graceful and beautiful these are the

graceful and beautiful these are the

graceful and beautiful these are the kids that see like dolphins

we approach the island treading softly

we approach the island treading softly entering the protected sanctuary and

entering the protected sanctuary and

entering the protected sanctuary and there’s no Westerners in sight we’re in

there’s no Westerners in sight we’re in

there’s no Westerners in sight we’re in a prime travellers experience and this

a prime travellers experience and this

a prime travellers experience and this is what we see now what does a Mogan

is what we see now what does a Mogan

is what we see now what does a Mogan village look like from the inside it

village look like from the inside it

village look like from the inside it looks like that how long does it take

looks like that how long does it take

looks like that how long does it take you to see the plastic can you count it

you to see the plastic can you count it

you to see the plastic can you count it because our brains don’t want to go

because our brains don’t want to go

because our brains don’t want to go there we move on to the island and we’re

there we move on to the island and we’re

there we move on to the island and we’re attracted by a rainbow of colors in the

attracted by a rainbow of colors in the

attracted by a rainbow of colors in the Little Shop and we approach it full of

Little Shop and we approach it full of

Little Shop and we approach it full of expectations handicrafts made of cedar

expectations handicrafts made of cedar

expectations handicrafts made of cedar bark but when we pop our heads in this

bark but when we pop our heads in this

bark but when we pop our heads in this is what we see the Cascade of colors is

is what we see the Cascade of colors is

is what we see the Cascade of colors is all made of plastic mono doses of candy

all made of plastic mono doses of candy

all made of plastic mono doses of candy toys joy gives way to a million

toys joy gives way to a million

toys joy gives way to a million questions about the consequences the hut

questions about the consequences the hut

questions about the consequences the hut is quiet children which you can see

is quiet children which you can see

is quiet children which you can see there are staring up at a muted TV set

there are staring up at a muted TV set

there are staring up at a muted TV set the candy in their shop is advertised on

the candy in their shop is advertised on

the candy in their shop is advertised on television all they have to do is reach

television all they have to do is reach

television all they have to do is reach up and grab it and those crunchy

up and grab it and those crunchy

up and grab it and those crunchy colorful wrappers slip out of their

colorful wrappers slip out of their

colorful wrappers slip out of their hands as they unveil sweet saturated

hands as they unveil sweet saturated

hands as they unveil sweet saturated flavors the garbage is everywhere it’s

flavors the garbage is everywhere it’s

flavors the garbage is everywhere it’s on the path it’s in the water

on the path it’s in the water

on the path it’s in the water nobody told these people that plastic

nobody told these people that plastic

nobody told these people that plastic doesn’t go away nobody told them that

doesn’t go away nobody told them that

doesn’t go away nobody told them that it’s one of nature’s biggest enemies so

it’s one of nature’s biggest enemies so

it’s one of nature’s biggest enemies so is this progress

we can think no and we’re doomed or we

we can think no and we’re doomed or we can think this isn’t progress but I know

can think this isn’t progress but I know

can think this isn’t progress but I know what progress is we see it every day

what progress is we see it every day

what progress is we see it every day we’re exploring space deeper and deeper

we’re exploring space deeper and deeper

we’re exploring space deeper and deeper we’re editing DNA were designing

we’re editing DNA were designing

we’re editing DNA were designing artificial leaves so how can we deal

artificial leaves so how can we deal

artificial leaves so how can we deal with this if we look at it collectively

with this if we look at it collectively

with this if we look at it collectively we think there’s just no way out but

we think there’s just no way out but

we think there’s just no way out but let’s shift perspective for a moment

let’s shift perspective for a moment

let’s shift perspective for a moment let’s break things down and bring them

let’s break things down and bring them

let’s break things down and bring them to a human level and let’s stick to

to a human level and let’s stick to

to a human level and let’s stick to plastic for a moment there are many

plastic for a moment there are many

plastic for a moment there are many people who are taking plastic too big

people who are taking plastic too big

people who are taking plastic too big concern we just heard a wonderful story

concern we just heard a wonderful story

concern we just heard a wonderful story earlier or what about Boyan slat a 19

earlier or what about Boyan slat a 19

earlier or what about Boyan slat a 19 year old at the time who thought let’s

year old at the time who thought let’s

year old at the time who thought let’s design nets to collect plastic from the

design nets to collect plastic from the

design nets to collect plastic from the oceans

oceans

oceans well his idea and his organization ocean

well his idea and his organization ocean

well his idea and his organization ocean cleanup is making way quite well in

cleanup is making way quite well in

cleanup is making way quite well in quite rapidly of course that can only be

quite rapidly of course that can only be

quite rapidly of course that can only be one piece of the puzzle or what about

one piece of the puzzle or what about

one piece of the puzzle or what about the biggest online platform for

the biggest online platform for

the biggest online platform for petitions called ava’s a community forty

petitions called ava’s a community forty

petitions called ava’s a community forty four million people strong they have

four million people strong they have

four million people strong they have just put out a new campaign to push

just put out a new campaign to push

just put out a new campaign to push countries to ban mono use plastics

countries to ban mono use plastics

countries to ban mono use plastics because a hundred million bottles of

because a hundred million bottles of

because a hundred million bottles of plastic are thrown away every day it’s a

plastic are thrown away every day it’s a

plastic are thrown away every day it’s a big number more than we can fathom more

big number more than we can fathom more

big number more than we can fathom more than all the recycling centers in the

than all the recycling centers in the

than all the recycling centers in the world could deal with so that could be

world could deal with so that could be

world could deal with so that could be another piece of the puzzle what about

another piece of the puzzle what about

another piece of the puzzle what about Federica Berto kini the Italian

Federica Berto kini the Italian

Federica Berto kini the Italian researcher who made headlines all over

researcher who made headlines all over

researcher who made headlines all over the world with her serendipitous

the world with her serendipitous

the world with her serendipitous discovery of plastic eating worms a worm

discovery of plastic eating worms a worm

discovery of plastic eating worms a worm that by the way we used as long as we

that by the way we used as long as we

that by the way we used as long as we know as bait to fish all of a sudden

know as bait to fish all of a sudden

know as bait to fish all of a sudden we’re discovering that it has an enzyme

we’re discovering that it has an enzyme

we’re discovering that it has an enzyme that can digest polyethylene that is

that can digest polyethylene that is

that can digest polyethylene that is huge what a revolution for that creature

huge what a revolution for that creature

huge what a revolution for that creature to pull a 360 like that so we need to

to pull a 360 like that so we need to

to pull a 360 like that so we need to string together many solutions to our

string together many solutions to our

string together many solutions to our big problems unlike last century where

big problems unlike last century where

big problems unlike last century where we had one big solution for many many

we had one big solution for many many

we had one big solution for many many things which was oil we can no longer

things which was oil we can no longer

things which was oil we can no longer seek one solution for each problem and

seek one solution for each problem and

seek one solution for each problem and we need to fuel our hope and these great

we need to fuel our hope and these great

we need to fuel our hope and these great ideas I don’t know about you but they

ideas I don’t know about you but they

ideas I don’t know about you but they give me a lot of hope my seed of hope on

give me a lot of hope my seed of hope on

give me a lot of hope my seed of hope on this journey was when we visited this

this journey was when we visited this

this journey was when we visited this mangrove pristine and pure nothing

mangrove pristine and pure nothing

mangrove pristine and pure nothing man-made in sight we were told that it

man-made in sight we were told that it

man-made in sight we were told that it was protected by an Italian organization

was protected by an Italian organization

was protected by an Italian organization Yukos dedicated to protecting natural

Yukos dedicated to protecting natural

Yukos dedicated to protecting natural environments and promoting sustainable

environments and promoting sustainable

environments and promoting sustainable development thank you very much

development thank you very much

development thank you very much and when I got home I found

and when I got home I found

and when I got home I found organizations who have taken the Mogens

organizations who have taken the Mogens

organizations who have taken the Mogens to heart so maybe there is hope that

to heart so maybe there is hope that

to heart so maybe there is hope that their heritage might survive it’s

their heritage might survive it’s

their heritage might survive it’s complicated but unlike them oaken’s we

complicated but unlike them oaken’s we

complicated but unlike them oaken’s we can choose we can buy local food sourced

can choose we can buy local food sourced

can choose we can buy local food sourced by community systems we can buy clothes

by community systems we can buy clothes

by community systems we can buy clothes from responsible chains we can recycle

from responsible chains we can recycle

from responsible chains we can recycle everything and use our imagination and

everything and use our imagination and

everything and use our imagination and make new things we can filter our water

make new things we can filter our water

make new things we can filter our water and free ourselves from plastic we have

and free ourselves from plastic we have

and free ourselves from plastic we have an infinite host of solutions of course

an infinite host of solutions of course

an infinite host of solutions of course again that we need to combine and why

again that we need to combine and why

again that we need to combine and why would you say it’s relevant to scale

would you say it’s relevant to scale

would you say it’s relevant to scale this well wouldn’t we rather export

this well wouldn’t we rather export

this well wouldn’t we rather export models of progress that we’re proud of

models of progress that we’re proud of

models of progress that we’re proud of unlike what we did to the poor Mogens

unlike what we did to the poor Mogens

unlike what we did to the poor Mogens where we sent them a model of progress

where we sent them a model of progress

where we sent them a model of progress that’s half a century outdated when

that’s half a century outdated when

that’s half a century outdated when disposable goods and fast food were the

disposable goods and fast food were the

disposable goods and fast food were the big new thing or isn’t it important to

big new thing or isn’t it important to

big new thing or isn’t it important to scale best practices from one city to

scale best practices from one city to

scale best practices from one city to the other in my home in Milan we recycle

the other in my home in Milan we recycle

the other in my home in Milan we recycle everything 53% of the

everything 53% of the

everything 53% of the household waste becomes something new

household waste becomes something new

household waste becomes something new its regenerated my other home New York

its regenerated my other home New York

its regenerated my other home New York one of the most advanced cities in the

one of the most advanced cities in the

one of the most advanced cities in the world ships out every day 12,000 tons of

world ships out every day 12,000 tons of

world ships out every day 12,000 tons of waste of garbage and only 17% gets

waste of garbage and only 17% gets

waste of garbage and only 17% gets recycled so where do we go from here we

recycled so where do we go from here we

recycled so where do we go from here we don’t like being told what to do or how

don’t like being told what to do or how

don’t like being told what to do or how to do things though I rather enjoy it

to do things though I rather enjoy it

to do things though I rather enjoy it and I have to watch myself because I

and I have to watch myself because I

and I have to watch myself because I sometimes turn lights off in people’s

sometimes turn lights off in people’s

sometimes turn lights off in people’s homes or close the faucet when it’s

homes or close the faucet when it’s

homes or close the faucet when it’s running too much fortunately my friends

running too much fortunately my friends

running too much fortunately my friends and family don’t think I’m a freak at

and family don’t think I’m a freak at

and family don’t think I’m a freak at least not too much and they forgive me

least not too much and they forgive me

least not too much and they forgive me but collectively we don’t like being

but collectively we don’t like being

but collectively we don’t like being told what to do so remember empathy that

told what to do so remember empathy that

told what to do so remember empathy that tool that we have our brains are wired

tool that we have our brains are wired

tool that we have our brains are wired that way well it’s what you feel for

that way well it’s what you feel for

that way well it’s what you feel for example when you see Oh sign bolt

example when you see Oh sign bolt

example when you see Oh sign bolt reaching the finish line that surge of

reaching the finish line that surge of

reaching the finish line that surge of emotions where you’re taking part of his

emotions where you’re taking part of his

emotions where you’re taking part of his victory well let’s practice a moment of

victory well let’s practice a moment of

victory well let’s practice a moment of empathy together would you love diving

empathy together would you love diving

empathy together would you love diving in that fresh clear blue water right now

in that fresh clear blue water right now

in that fresh clear blue water right now feel it just rise feel that pleasure

feel it just rise feel that pleasure

feel it just rise feel that pleasure take you over and hold on to that

take you over and hold on to that

take you over and hold on to that pleasure for a moment while I ask you to

pleasure for a moment while I ask you to

pleasure for a moment while I ask you to come with me on another journey let’s

come with me on another journey let’s

come with me on another journey let’s imagine going back to that Moken village

imagine going back to that Moken village

imagine going back to that Moken village together in this sense of belonging who

together in this sense of belonging who

together in this sense of belonging who would you like to take with you who

would you like to take with you who

would you like to take with you who would you like to help the Moken people

would you like to help the Moken people

would you like to help the Moken people clean up and understand what trashes

clean up and understand what trashes

clean up and understand what trashes researchers or anthropologists who would

researchers or anthropologists who would

researchers or anthropologists who would like to learn from the Mogens how to

like to learn from the Mogens how to

like to learn from the Mogens how to seek refuge how to escape a tsunami or

seek refuge how to escape a tsunami or

seek refuge how to escape a tsunami or inspired corporations who would like to

inspired corporations who would like to

inspired corporations who would like to ship nutritious foods in biodegradable

ship nutritious foods in biodegradable

ship nutritious foods in biodegradable packages there feel the power of this

packages there feel the power of this

packages there feel the power of this human Tecna

human Tecna

human Tecna at work which we still have not learned

at work which we still have not learned

at work which we still have not learned to use at its full potential coupling

to use at its full potential coupling

to use at its full potential coupling information imagination heart a lot of

information imagination heart a lot of

information imagination heart a lot of heart

heart

heart creativity imagine putting all the

creativity imagine putting all the

creativity imagine putting all the intelligence at work in our ecosystems

intelligence at work in our ecosystems

intelligence at work in our ecosystems which again we don’t know enough about

which again we don’t know enough about

which again we don’t know enough about thank you stefano Mancuso for finally

thank you stefano Mancuso for finally

thank you stefano Mancuso for finally saying that plants are intelligent and

saying that plants are intelligent and

saying that plants are intelligent and please go and seek contact with trees so

please go and seek contact with trees so

please go and seek contact with trees so could we conclude that progress is

could we conclude that progress is

could we conclude that progress is keeping an eye to where we come from

keeping an eye to where we come from

keeping an eye to where we come from honoring our home while looking forward

honoring our home while looking forward

honoring our home while looking forward because if we don’t keep this double

because if we don’t keep this double

because if we don’t keep this double perspective we risk getting so enamored

perspective we risk getting so enamored

perspective we risk getting so enamored with all these technologies that we’re

with all these technologies that we’re

with all these technologies that we’re inventing so fast that we might forget

inventing so fast that we might forget

inventing so fast that we might forget who we are thank you

who we are thank you

who we are thank you [Applause]

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