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What’s in YOUR file? From Prejudice to Understanding | Dr. Mark Benn | TEDxCSU


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[Applause] my parents met his teenagers their birth

my parents met his teenagers their birth

my parents met his teenagers their birth working really hard to emancipate from

working really hard to emancipate from

working really hard to emancipate from their families of origin they’re working

their families of origin they’re working

their families of origin they’re working really hard to emancipate from those

really hard to emancipate from those

really hard to emancipate from those families for two very different reasons

families for two very different reasons

families for two very different reasons they found each other

they found each other

they found each other probably in the backseat of a Chevy and

probably in the backseat of a Chevy and

probably in the backseat of a Chevy and it’s 16 years old they got pregnant with

it’s 16 years old they got pregnant with

it’s 16 years old they got pregnant with my brother he promptly dropped out of

my brother he promptly dropped out of

my brother he promptly dropped out of high school got married moved in

high school got married moved in

high school got married moved in together and took the kind of low-paying

together and took the kind of low-paying

together and took the kind of low-paying jobs that high school dropouts get to

jobs that high school dropouts get to

jobs that high school dropouts get to take ten months after my brother was

take ten months after my brother was

take ten months after my brother was born I was born ten months after my

born I was born ten months after my

born I was born ten months after my brother was born the joke in my family

brother was born the joke in my family

brother was born the joke in my family growing up was that after my brother

growing up was that after my brother

growing up was that after my brother came out my dad went right back in on

came out my dad went right back in on

came out my dad went right back in on the eve of my fourth birthday my parents

the eve of my fourth birthday my parents

the eve of my fourth birthday my parents separate and divorced all for my

separate and divorced all for my

separate and divorced all for my grandparents sir Ashkenazi Jews making

grandparents sir Ashkenazi Jews making

grandparents sir Ashkenazi Jews making obviously my parents Ashkenazi Jews

obviously my parents Ashkenazi Jews

obviously my parents Ashkenazi Jews making me 96.2% Ashkenazi Jew I did one

making me 96.2% Ashkenazi Jew I did one

making me 96.2% Ashkenazi Jew I did one of those DNA tests you can find on

of those DNA tests you can find on

of those DNA tests you can find on Facebook

both my parents remarried by the time I

both my parents remarried by the time I was seven my father he remarried another

was seven my father he remarried another

was seven my father he remarried another Ashkenazi Jew my mother she remarried an

Ashkenazi Jew my mother she remarried an

Ashkenazi Jew my mother she remarried an Irish Catholic man this was problematic

Irish Catholic man this was problematic

Irish Catholic man this was problematic for both of them for a couple different

for both of them for a couple different

for both of them for a couple different reasons it was a problem for my mother

reasons it was a problem for my mother

reasons it was a problem for my mother because she married a guy who wasn’t

because she married a guy who wasn’t

because she married a guy who wasn’t Jewish they gonna remember this is the

Jewish they gonna remember this is the

Jewish they gonna remember this is the 1960s the early 1960s nobody broke that

1960s the early 1960s nobody broke that

1960s the early 1960s nobody broke that chain back then you didn’t marry out of

chain back then you didn’t marry out of

chain back then you didn’t marry out of your race or out of your religion

your race or out of your religion

your race or out of your religion especially if you were a Hodgkin ozzie

especially if you were a Hodgkin ozzie

especially if you were a Hodgkin ozzie jew there aren’t that many of us it was

jew there aren’t that many of us it was

jew there aren’t that many of us it was a problem for my stepfather because he

a problem for my stepfather because he

a problem for my stepfather because he was a Catholic man and he was marrying a

was a Catholic man and he was marrying a

was a Catholic man and he was marrying a woman who was divorced they moved us to

woman who was divorced they moved us to

woman who was divorced they moved us to a very white working-class neighborhood

a very white working-class neighborhood

a very white working-class neighborhood in Northeast Philadelphia that’s where I

in Northeast Philadelphia that’s where I

in Northeast Philadelphia that’s where I got my first taste of prejudice kids in

got my first taste of prejudice kids in

got my first taste of prejudice kids in the neighborhood made fun of me for the

the neighborhood made fun of me for the

the neighborhood made fun of me for the shape and the size of my nose they

shape and the size of my nose they

shape and the size of my nose they teased me for being short they teased me

teased me for being short they teased me

teased me for being short they teased me for having big ears I remember one time

for having big ears I remember one time

for having big ears I remember one time the kids came home from Catholic school

the kids came home from Catholic school

the kids came home from Catholic school and they formed a circle around me on

and they formed a circle around me on

and they formed a circle around me on their uniforms and said let’s beat up

their uniforms and said let’s beat up

their uniforms and said let’s beat up the Jew they they called me a rich Jew

the Jew they they called me a rich Jew

the Jew they they called me a rich Jew and they called me a dirty Jew and I was

and they called me a dirty Jew and I was

and they called me a dirty Jew and I was confused by all this sometimes they

confused by all this sometimes they

confused by all this sometimes they called me a kike I didn’t know that word

called me a kike I didn’t know that word

called me a kike I didn’t know that word I thought they were calling me a kite I

I thought they were calling me a kite I

I thought they were calling me a kite I didn’t know why they’re calling me a

didn’t know why they’re calling me a

didn’t know why they’re calling me a kite I didn’t feel like a kite the rich

kite I didn’t feel like a kite the rich

kite I didn’t feel like a kite the rich Jew thing was really confusing that you

Jew thing was really confusing that you

Jew thing was really confusing that you know these rich Jews I don’t know where

know these rich Jews I don’t know where

know these rich Jews I don’t know where they are they’re not in my family all my

they are they’re not in my family all my

they are they’re not in my family all my parents are high school dropouts I keep

parents are high school dropouts I keep

parents are high school dropouts I keep looking for these rich Jews I hope they

looking for these rich Jews I hope they

looking for these rich Jews I hope they show up sometime I want them to send me

show up sometime I want them to send me

show up sometime I want them to send me their money I’ll do good things with

their money I’ll do good things with

their money I’ll do good things with their money but there were no rich Jews

their money but there were no rich Jews

their money but there were no rich Jews in my family and the dirty Jew thing was

in my family and the dirty Jew thing was

in my family and the dirty Jew thing was also confusing to me I mean after I was

also confusing to me I mean after I was

also confusing to me I mean after I was a 7 year old boy growing up in a city I

a 7 year old boy growing up in a city I

a 7 year old boy growing up in a city I was probably pretty dirty but my am my

was probably pretty dirty but my am my

was probably pretty dirty but my am my family was not and my house was not in

family was not and my house was not in

family was not and my house was not in my house you didn’t you didn’t have

my house you didn’t you didn’t have

my house you didn’t you didn’t have trash and trash cans in my house because

trash and trash cans in my house because

trash and trash cans in my house because if somebody came over to your house and

if somebody came over to your house and

if somebody came over to your house and he’s all trash in the trash can they

he’s all trash in the trash can they

he’s all trash in the trash can they might think you were dirty so my house

might think you were dirty so my house

might think you were dirty so my house never had trash in the trash cans in my

never had trash in the trash cans in my

never had trash in the trash cans in my house if you were watching a TV show and

house if you were watching a TV show and

house if you were watching a TV show and you had a drink and you got up to leave

you had a drink and you got up to leave

you had a drink and you got up to leave for any reason anyone in your family

for any reason anyone in your family

for any reason anyone in your family anyone in the family might have picked

anyone in the family might have picked

anyone in the family might have picked up that glass and taking it wash it and

up that glass and taking it wash it and

up that glass and taking it wash it and put it away my house was not dirty we

put it away my house was not dirty we

put it away my house was not dirty we were not dirty Jews

were not dirty Jews

were not dirty Jews my stepfather and mother then moved us

my stepfather and mother then moved us

my stepfather and mother then moved us to a even more segregated neighborhood

to a even more segregated neighborhood

to a even more segregated neighborhood outside of Philadelphia called Levittown

outside of Philadelphia called Levittown

outside of Philadelphia called Levittown Pennsylvania in Levittown was

Pennsylvania in Levittown was

Pennsylvania in Levittown was deliberately segregated in Levittown

deliberately segregated in Levittown

deliberately segregated in Levittown they loved it was a bigot and he made a

they loved it was a bigot and he made a

they loved it was a bigot and he made a neighborhood that was just for the black

neighborhood that was just for the black

neighborhood that was just for the black folks and was called Bloomsdale and

folks and was called Bloomsdale and

folks and was called Bloomsdale and that’s where the black folks lived and

that’s where the black folks lived and

that’s where the black folks lived and the black folks didn’t go where the

the black folks didn’t go where the

the black folks didn’t go where the white folks lived and the white folks

white folks lived and the white folks

white folks lived and the white folks didn’t go where the black folks live

didn’t go where the black folks live

didn’t go where the black folks live that’s just how it was busing was a big

that’s just how it was busing was a big

that’s just how it was busing was a big thing when I was a kid and so it was the

thing when I was a kid and so it was the

thing when I was a kid and so it was the early 1970s who people started getting

early 1970s who people started getting

early 1970s who people started getting bused to achieve racial integration and

bused to achieve racial integration and

bused to achieve racial integration and so I was bused past one school it was

so I was bused past one school it was

so I was bused past one school it was five minutes from my house to another

five minutes from my house to another

five minutes from my house to another school that was a half hour from my

school that was a half hour from my

school that was a half hour from my house to achieve racial integration my

house to achieve racial integration my

house to achieve racial integration my black friends often remind me that the

black friends often remind me that the

black friends often remind me that the only time we ever started talking about

only time we ever started talking about

only time we ever started talking about busing is when white people started to

busing is when white people started to

busing is when white people started to get bussed I think this is true with a

get bussed I think this is true with a

get bussed I think this is true with a lot of things in this country we don’t

lot of things in this country we don’t

lot of things in this country we don’t start talking about this stuff until it

start talking about this stuff until it

start talking about this stuff until it happens to white people when I was a

happens to white people when I was a

happens to white people when I was a senior in high school I had an

senior in high school I had an

senior in high school I had an opportunity to take black history or

opportunity to take black history or

opportunity to take black history or American history it was interesting to

American history it was interesting to

American history it was interesting to me that they gave us an option of these

me that they gave us an option of these

me that they gave us an option of these two things as if they were different

two things as if they were different

two things as if they were different three of my white friends and I we took

three of my white friends and I we took

three of my white friends and I we took black history and I again felt like

black history and I again felt like

black history and I again felt like other in that classroom as one of the

other in that classroom as one of the

other in that classroom as one of the few white kids in a class of all black

few white kids in a class of all black

few white kids in a class of all black people but I felt welcome there I felt

people but I felt welcome there I felt

people but I felt welcome there I felt at home I felt accepted I felt nurtured

at home I felt accepted I felt nurtured

at home I felt accepted I felt nurtured I felt loved you see I grew up in a

I felt loved you see I grew up in a

I felt loved you see I grew up in a house where language was big words were

house where language was big words were

house where language was big words were big I grew up in a house where curse

big I grew up in a house where curse

big I grew up in a house where curse words weren’t the regular curse words

words weren’t the regular curse words

words weren’t the regular curse words George Carlin used to say that there are

George Carlin used to say that there are

George Carlin used to say that there are seven words you shouldn’t say on

seven words you shouldn’t say on

seven words you shouldn’t say on television

television

television curse words in my house weren’t words

curse words in my house weren’t words

curse words in my house weren’t words like the f-word I grew up in a house

like the f-word I grew up in a house

like the f-word I grew up in a house where the F word was used all the time I

where the F word was used all the time I

where the F word was used all the time I thought the F word had to be used in

thought the F word had to be used in

thought the F word had to be used in every sentence I didn’t know I mean I I

every sentence I didn’t know I mean I I

every sentence I didn’t know I mean I I loved looking out and seeing college

loved looking out and seeing college

loved looking out and seeing college students because y’all have you say the

students because y’all have you say the

students because y’all have you say the F word walking across campuses in all

F word walking across campuses in all

F word walking across campuses in all your songs I feel like I’m at home when

your songs I feel like I’m at home when

your songs I feel like I’m at home when I’m with you you know in my house curse

I’m with you you know in my house curse

I’m with you you know in my house curse words were words like the N word

words were words like the N word

words were words like the N word couldn’t say the N word in my house you

couldn’t say the N word in my house you

couldn’t say the N word in my house you couldn’t say the B word of the C word

couldn’t say the B word of the C word

couldn’t say the B word of the C word for women there were curse words for

for women there were curse words for

for women there were curse words for every group the Italians had curse words

every group the Italians had curse words

every group the Italians had curse words we couldn’t say those words you couldn’t

we couldn’t say those words you couldn’t

we couldn’t say those words you couldn’t say the words that we say for gays

say the words that we say for gays

say the words that we say for gays lesbians and bisexuals that you still

lesbians and bisexuals that you still

lesbians and bisexuals that you still here use you couldn’t say those words in

here use you couldn’t say those words in

here use you couldn’t say those words in my

my

my house you’d be in trouble there are

house you’d be in trouble there are

house you’d be in trouble there are curse words for people with disabilities

curse words for people with disabilities

curse words for people with disabilities that still get used regularly we use the

that still get used regularly we use the

that still get used regularly we use the R word like it’s nothing

R word like it’s nothing

R word like it’s nothing we still call people with disabilities

we still call people with disabilities

we still call people with disabilities invalids listen to the word we’re

invalids listen to the word we’re

invalids listen to the word we’re calling people invalid these words were

calling people invalid these words were

calling people invalid these words were powerful in my house and I grew up

powerful in my house and I grew up

powerful in my house and I grew up learning that these are not words you

learning that these are not words you

learning that these are not words you use those other ones be careful where

use those other ones be careful where

use those other ones be careful where you use them but you can use them here I

you use them but you can use them here I

you use them but you can use them here I also learned that a bigot is a bigot as

also learned that a bigot is a bigot as

also learned that a bigot is a bigot as a bigot and so that if you hear somebody

a bigot and so that if you hear somebody

a bigot and so that if you hear somebody saying the n-word when there’s no black

saying the n-word when there’s no black

saying the n-word when there’s no black folks around or the B word of the C word

folks around or the B word of the C word

folks around or the B word of the C word when there’s no women around you can bet

when there’s no women around you can bet

when there’s no women around you can bet damn sure mark that they’re saying dirty

damn sure mark that they’re saying dirty

damn sure mark that they’re saying dirty Jew when you’re not around you can bet

Jew when you’re not around you can bet

Jew when you’re not around you can bet damn sure they’re calling kike when

damn sure they’re calling kike when

damn sure they’re calling kike when you’re not around because a bigot is a

you’re not around because a bigot is a

you’re not around because a bigot is a bigot is a bigot and so I grew up about

bigot is a bigot and so I grew up about

bigot is a bigot and so I grew up about prejudice in a very different way than

prejudice in a very different way than

prejudice in a very different way than most people when I got to college I I

most people when I got to college I I

most people when I got to college I I wanted to study this thing about

wanted to study this thing about

wanted to study this thing about prejudice because it confused the hell

prejudice because it confused the hell

prejudice because it confused the hell out of me it really did it confuse me I

out of me it really did it confuse me I

out of me it really did it confuse me I didn’t understand it I passed for weight

didn’t understand it I passed for weight

didn’t understand it I passed for weight so I would hear prejudice all the time

so I would hear prejudice all the time

so I would hear prejudice all the time so I read this book it was written in

so I read this book it was written in

so I read this book it was written in 1954 by a guy named Gordon Allport when

1954 by a guy named Gordon Allport when

1954 by a guy named Gordon Allport when I first got to college and he talks

I first got to college and he talks

I first got to college and he talks about a couple different things in this

about a couple different things in this

about a couple different things in this book but but three that I’ll highlight

book but but three that I’ll highlight

book but but three that I’ll highlight here he talks about the idea that

here he talks about the idea that

here he talks about the idea that prejudice is normal it’s natural it’s

prejudice is normal it’s natural it’s

prejudice is normal it’s natural it’s it’s to be accepted we’re gonna have

it’s to be accepted we’re gonna have

it’s to be accepted we’re gonna have prejudice we’re gonna have stereotypes

prejudice we’re gonna have stereotypes

prejudice we’re gonna have stereotypes because we can’t meet every one of any

because we can’t meet every one of any

because we can’t meet every one of any certain group so you’re gonna have

certain group so you’re gonna have

certain group so you’re gonna have stereotypes and Prejudice based on

stereotypes and Prejudice based on

stereotypes and Prejudice based on certain things hell if I’m the first Jew

certain things hell if I’m the first Jew

certain things hell if I’m the first Jew you ever saw you might think this is

you ever saw you might think this is

you ever saw you might think this is what Jews are like and you know what

what Jews are like and you know what

what Jews are like and you know what we’re kind of like this this is how we

we’re kind of like this this is how we

we’re kind of like this this is how we look he says that many stereotypes are

look he says that many stereotypes are

look he says that many stereotypes are based in kernels of truth they don’t

based in kernels of truth they don’t

based in kernels of truth they don’t come from nowhere they come from

come from nowhere they come from

come from nowhere they come from somewhere and he says not only is

somewhere and he says not only is

somewhere and he says not only is prejudice between groups but prejudice

prejudice between groups but prejudice

prejudice between groups but prejudice is also within certain groups groups

is also within certain groups groups

is also within certain groups groups also have prejudice within them not just

also have prejudice within them not just

also have prejudice within them not just between them now I know about this

between them now I know about this

between them now I know about this because as a Jew when people would ask

because as a Jew when people would ask

because as a Jew when people would ask me if I was Jewish I would apologize and

me if I was Jewish I would apologize and

me if I was Jewish I would apologize and I would say well yes almost as as if I

I would say well yes almost as as if I

I would say well yes almost as as if I felt bad about it which I did I say yes

felt bad about it which I did I say yes

felt bad about it which I did I say yes I am but but my stepfather is Catholic

I am but but my stepfather is Catholic

I am but but my stepfather is Catholic and it wasn’t so much later in my life

and it wasn’t so much later in my life

and it wasn’t so much later in my life that I realized that being Catholic was

that I realized that being Catholic was

that I realized that being Catholic was just as bad as being Jewish I didn’t

just as bad as being Jewish I didn’t

just as bad as being Jewish I didn’t know as a little kid I wouldn’t let you

know as a little kid I wouldn’t let you

know as a little kid I wouldn’t let you look at me from the side when I was in

look at me from the side when I was in

look at me from the side when I was in school I would want to sit in a way that

school I would want to sit in a way that

school I would want to sit in a way that you would never see me from my profile I

you would never see me from my profile I

you would never see me from my profile I wasn’t

wasn’t

wasn’t ashamed and scared that you would see

ashamed and scared that you would see

ashamed and scared that you would see how Jewish I was when I got to graduate

how Jewish I was when I got to graduate

how Jewish I was when I got to graduate school I studied this guy named Carl

school I studied this guy named Carl

school I studied this guy named Carl Rogers and Carl Roger says that the

Rogers and Carl Roger says that the

Rogers and Carl Roger says that the distance between who you are and who you

distance between who you are and who you

distance between who you are and who you dream yourself to be the greater the gap

dream yourself to be the greater the gap

dream yourself to be the greater the gap those two things are the more

those two things are the more

those two things are the more psychologically impaired you probably

psychologically impaired you probably

psychologically impaired you probably are so I started to apply this to

are so I started to apply this to

are so I started to apply this to prejudice and I thought well I can’t

prejudice and I thought well I can’t

prejudice and I thought well I can’t apply this to me because I’m not

apply this to me because I’m not

apply this to me because I’m not prejudiced I grew up in a house where

prejudiced I grew up in a house where

prejudiced I grew up in a house where you couldn’t say the n-word I grew up in

you couldn’t say the n-word I grew up in

you couldn’t say the n-word I grew up in Houston didn’t have prejudice I learned

Houston didn’t have prejudice I learned

Houston didn’t have prejudice I learned from my mother that a bigot is a bigot

from my mother that a bigot is a bigot

from my mother that a bigot is a bigot is a bigot and then I realized oh no

is a bigot and then I realized oh no

is a bigot and then I realized oh no mark until you can look at your own

mark until you can look at your own

mark until you can look at your own prejudice and you can look at the fact

prejudice and you can look at the fact

prejudice and you can look at the fact that you have pressures and you can

that you have pressures and you can

that you have pressures and you can start to examine that like an alcoholic

start to examine that like an alcoholic

start to examine that like an alcoholic or an addict has a problem with

or an addict has a problem with

or an addict has a problem with addiction before they can do anything

addiction before they can do anything

addiction before they can do anything about it I have to realize that I am

about it I have to realize that I am

about it I have to realize that I am prejudiced and so I’m gonna stand here

prejudiced and so I’m gonna stand here

prejudiced and so I’m gonna stand here I’m gonna say something you might sound

I’m gonna say something you might sound

I’m gonna say something you might sound a little crazy I am a racist sexist

a little crazy I am a racist sexist

a little crazy I am a racist sexist ageist classist homophobic heterosexist

ageist classist homophobic heterosexist

ageist classist homophobic heterosexist able biased and lookest person and with

able biased and lookest person and with

able biased and lookest person and with all due respect so are you so are you

all due respect so are you so are you

all due respect so are you so are you and until you can admit it until we can

and until you can admit it until we can

and until you can admit it until we can admit as a society we will not move

admit as a society we will not move

admit as a society we will not move anywhere because in our culture what we

anywhere because in our culture what we

anywhere because in our culture what we do is we keep trying to convince each

do is we keep trying to convince each

do is we keep trying to convince each other how cool we are we say stupid

other how cool we are we say stupid

other how cool we are we say stupid things like I don’t see color or all one

things like I don’t see color or all one

things like I don’t see color or all one race or that all lives matter it’s crazy

race or that all lives matter it’s crazy

race or that all lives matter it’s crazy talk I can’t stand here pretend I don’t

talk I can’t stand here pretend I don’t

talk I can’t stand here pretend I don’t see your age I can’t pretend I don’t see

see your age I can’t pretend I don’t see

see your age I can’t pretend I don’t see that your skin is black in – white I

that your skin is black in – white I

that your skin is black in – white I can’t pretend that I can’t pretend that

can’t pretend that I can’t pretend that

can’t pretend that I can’t pretend that I’ll notice some of your eyes are shaped

I’ll notice some of your eyes are shaped

I’ll notice some of your eyes are shaped differently than mine I can’t pretend

differently than mine I can’t pretend

differently than mine I can’t pretend that I’ll see your hair sometimes purple

that I’ll see your hair sometimes purple

that I’ll see your hair sometimes purple I can’t pretend that I don’t see these

I can’t pretend that I don’t see these

I can’t pretend that I don’t see these things and I can’t pretend that it

things and I can’t pretend that it

things and I can’t pretend that it doesn’t impact our relationship because

doesn’t impact our relationship because

doesn’t impact our relationship because it does and until we can come to grips

it does and until we can come to grips

it does and until we can come to grips with recognizing that the way we see

with recognizing that the way we see

with recognizing that the way we see each other just based on very limited

each other just based on very limited

each other just based on very limited information impacts who we are and how

information impacts who we are and how

information impacts who we are and how we like to relate to each other we will

we like to relate to each other we will

we like to relate to each other we will do nothing about this problems we’ve got

do nothing about this problems we’ve got

do nothing about this problems we’ve got to stop pretending that we don’t have

to stop pretending that we don’t have

to stop pretending that we don’t have prejudice it’s absurd so I started do

prejudice it’s absurd so I started do

prejudice it’s absurd so I started do some research to find out who’s done

some research to find out who’s done

some research to find out who’s done work on this prejudice thing and I was

work on this prejudice thing and I was

work on this prejudice thing and I was surprised as heck to find out that the

surprised as heck to find out that the

surprised as heck to find out that the group that did some of the earliest

group that did some of the earliest

group that did some of the earliest research on prejudice was the US

research on prejudice was the US

research on prejudice was the US military because then they in before

military because then they in before

military because then they in before World War two the US military has

World War two the US military has

World War two the US military has separate barracks they had enlisted men

separate barracks they had enlisted men

separate barracks they had enlisted men showers that were for white folks and

showers that were for white folks and

showers that were for white folks and enlisted men showers there for colored

enlisted men showers there for colored

enlisted men showers there for colored folks and they had barracks that were

folks and they had barracks that were

folks and they had barracks that were separate and showers that were separate

separate and showers that were separate

separate and showers that were separate and so what they did is they they did

and so what they did is they they did

and so what they did is they they did sensitivity training to try and reduce

sensitivity training to try and reduce

sensitivity training to try and reduce prey

prey

prey so they put these people in a room and

so they put these people in a room and

so they put these people in a room and they did this sensitivity training

they did this sensitivity training

they did this sensitivity training something like what I’m talking to you

something like what I’m talking to you

something like what I’m talking to you about right now sort of and what they

about right now sort of and what they

about right now sort of and what they found out is that prejudice did not go

found out is that prejudice did not go

found out is that prejudice did not go down it didn’t go down all the

down it didn’t go down all the

down it didn’t go down all the sensitivity training in the world didn’t

sensitivity training in the world didn’t

sensitivity training in the world didn’t decrease prejudice so finally they said

decrease prejudice so finally they said

decrease prejudice so finally they said the hell with this you know what let’s

the hell with this you know what let’s

the hell with this you know what let’s just move these dudes in with each other

just move these dudes in with each other

just move these dudes in with each other let’s just move them all in together

let’s just move them all in together

let’s just move them all in together guess what happened to prejudice it went

guess what happened to prejudice it went

guess what happened to prejudice it went down it went down dramatically and then

down it went down dramatically and then

down it went down dramatically and then researchers have to say what the heck

researchers have to say what the heck

researchers have to say what the heck happened here how did prejudice go down

happened here how did prejudice go down

happened here how did prejudice go down what did we do and so they found that

what did we do and so they found that

what did we do and so they found that when they met for specific conditions

when they met for specific conditions

when they met for specific conditions when people share intimate beliefs in an

when people share intimate beliefs in an

when people share intimate beliefs in an atmosphere of cooperation and they are

atmosphere of cooperation and they are

atmosphere of cooperation and they are equal status sanctioned by some

equal status sanctioned by some

equal status sanctioned by some Authority when we do those things

Authority when we do those things

Authority when we do those things prejudice almost always goes down it

prejudice almost always goes down it

prejudice almost always goes down it almost always goes down so how do we

almost always goes down so how do we

almost always goes down so how do we keep prejudice in our head how does it

keep prejudice in our head how does it

keep prejudice in our head how does it stay in our head what happens to us so

stay in our head what happens to us so

stay in our head what happens to us so I’m driving on a very nice day from Los

I’m driving on a very nice day from Los

I’m driving on a very nice day from Los Angeles to San Diego with my two

Angeles to San Diego with my two

Angeles to San Diego with my two favorite bigots my my biological father

favorite bigots my my biological father

favorite bigots my my biological father and my stepmother you know the other

and my stepmother you know the other

and my stepmother you know the other kind of bigots that are bigoted in a way

kind of bigots that are bigoted in a way

kind of bigots that are bigoted in a way that they don’t um

that they don’t um

that they don’t um they don’t they pretend they’re not

they don’t they pretend they’re not

they don’t they pretend they’re not bigoted but they are they use all those

bigoted but they are they use all those

bigoted but they are they use all those words when no one’s around but they tell

words when no one’s around but they tell

words when no one’s around but they tell you how cool they are when they are

you how cool they are when they are

you how cool they are when they are around and so on this day we’re driving

around and so on this day we’re driving

around and so on this day we’re driving from Los Angeles San Diego and as we’re

from Los Angeles San Diego and as we’re

from Los Angeles San Diego and as we’re driving down there and there’s a car

driving down there and there’s a car

driving down there and there’s a car driving erratically sure enough my

driving erratically sure enough my

driving erratically sure enough my stepmother leans over to my father when

stepmother leans over to my father when

stepmother leans over to my father when she sees this car driving erratically

she sees this car driving erratically

she sees this car driving erratically and she says I knew it and I mean

and she says I knew it and I mean

and she says I knew it and I mean forward I say what is it that you knew

forward I say what is it that you knew

forward I say what is it that you knew and she said never mind I’m probably not

and she said never mind I’m probably not

and she said never mind I’m probably not supposed to say this to you and I said

supposed to say this to you and I said

supposed to say this to you and I said my guess is you’re probably not supposed

my guess is you’re probably not supposed

my guess is you’re probably not supposed to say this to anyone

to say this to anyone

to say this to anyone but tell me anyhow so she told me she

but tell me anyhow so she told me she

but tell me anyhow so she told me she said okay I’ll tell you I knew would be

said okay I’ll tell you I knew would be

said okay I’ll tell you I knew would be an oriental driver now my first thought

an oriental driver now my first thought

an oriental driver now my first thought was oriental refers to food and rugs not

was oriental refers to food and rugs not

was oriental refers to food and rugs not people but I don’t correct her just yet

people but I don’t correct her just yet

people but I don’t correct her just yet I am capable of that

I am capable of that

I am capable of that she says you wouldn’t know you live in

she says you wouldn’t know you live in

she says you wouldn’t know you live in Colorado there are no Orientals in

Colorado there are no Orientals in

Colorado there are no Orientals in Colorado you wouldn’t know so I say

Colorado you wouldn’t know so I say

Colorado you wouldn’t know so I say let’s do a survey we got two hours to

let’s do a survey we got two hours to

let’s do a survey we got two hours to sit in the car I’d rather do this and

sit in the car I’d rather do this and

sit in the car I’d rather do this and talk to you let’s do a survey from Los

talk to you let’s do a survey from Los

talk to you let’s do a survey from Los Angeles to San Diego on this given day

Angeles to San Diego on this given day

Angeles to San Diego on this given day let’s see how many Asian folks or

let’s see how many Asian folks or

let’s see how many Asian folks or Pacific Islanders are bad drivers and we

Pacific Islanders are bad drivers and we

Pacific Islanders are bad drivers and we find out on this given day Asian and

find out on this given day Asian and

find out on this given day Asian and Pacific Islanders do not have a monopoly

Pacific Islanders do not have a monopoly

Pacific Islanders do not have a monopoly on driving poorly we know who the worst

on driving poorly we know who the worst

on driving poorly we know who the worst drivers are in this country we know

drivers are in this country we know

drivers are in this country we know where they are they’re 16 to 17 year old

where they are they’re 16 to 17 year old

where they are they’re 16 to 17 year old boys so how does my stepmother hold in

boys so how does my stepmother hold in

boys so how does my stepmother hold in her head that Asian and Pacific

her head that Asian and Pacific

her head that Asian and Pacific Islanders are the worst driver she holds

Islanders are the worst driver she holds

Islanders are the worst driver she holds in her head the same way I hold it in my

in her head the same way I hold it in my

in her head the same way I hold it in my head the same way you hold in your head

head the same way you hold in your head

head the same way you hold in your head she has a file a file in her head that

she has a file a file in her head that

she has a file a file in her head that says bad Asian driver so when she sees a

says bad Asian driver so when she sees a

says bad Asian driver so when she sees a bad driver that’s not Asian no file when

bad driver that’s not Asian no file when

bad driver that’s not Asian no file when she sees a bad driver that is Asian boom

she sees a bad driver that is Asian boom

she sees a bad driver that is Asian boom she files it so what’s in your file

she files it so what’s in your file

she files it so what’s in your file what’s in your file I have a file I will

what’s in your file I have a file I will

what’s in your file I have a file I will file for black folks I have a file for

file for black folks I have a file for

file for black folks I have a file for brown folks I have a file for

brown folks I have a file for

brown folks I have a file for Republicans I have a file for people

Republicans I have a file for people

Republicans I have a file for people from Nebraska okay I have now I have a

from Nebraska okay I have now I have a

from Nebraska okay I have now I have a file and so do you and you need to look

file and so do you and you need to look

file and so do you and you need to look at your file so I started to examine

at your file so I started to examine

at your file so I started to examine like has anybody in current events done

like has anybody in current events done

like has anybody in current events done anything that’s reduced prejudice or

anything that’s reduced prejudice or

anything that’s reduced prejudice or showing the presence to be reduced by

showing the presence to be reduced by

showing the presence to be reduced by meeting those four conditions and sure

meeting those four conditions and sure

meeting those four conditions and sure enough I get online and I find this guy

enough I get online and I find this guy

enough I get online and I find this guy named Darryl Davis and Darryl Davis has

named Darryl Davis and Darryl Davis has

named Darryl Davis and Darryl Davis has a african-american musician who plays in

a african-american musician who plays in

a african-american musician who plays in a white band and he ends up playing at

a white band and he ends up playing at

a white band and he ends up playing at Ku Klux Klan rallies he stands around

Ku Klux Klan rallies he stands around

Ku Klux Klan rallies he stands around and he talks to people and they share

and he talks to people and they share

and he talks to people and they share intimate beliefs and that mystery of

intimate beliefs and that mystery of

intimate beliefs and that mystery of cooperation and they’re of equal status

cooperation and they’re of equal status

cooperation and they’re of equal status and Prejudice Goes Down and Darrell

and Prejudice Goes Down and Darrell

and Prejudice Goes Down and Darrell Davis gave me permission to use this

Davis gave me permission to use this

Davis gave me permission to use this photographs and you can read about them

photographs and you can read about them

photographs and you can read about them online if you like Darrell Davis will go

online if you like Darrell Davis will go

online if you like Darrell Davis will go to these places and talk to these folks

to these places and talk to these folks

to these places and talk to these folks and Wilson Shave wrote a book called

and Wilson Shave wrote a book called

and Wilson Shave wrote a book called women’s reality and in her book she says

women’s reality and in her book she says

women’s reality and in her book she says that prejudice is like air pollution

that prejudice is like air pollution

that prejudice is like air pollution when you’re in the air that stinks

when you’re in the air that stinks

when you’re in the air that stinks really really bad for a really long time

really really bad for a really long time

really really bad for a really long time you stopped smelling this think of the

you stopped smelling this think of the

you stopped smelling this think of the air it’s just

air it’s just

air it’s just we the air smells and so the air as a

we the air smells and so the air as a

we the air smells and so the air as a white male heterosexual temporarily

white male heterosexual temporarily

white male heterosexual temporarily able-bodied man is almost always – over

able-bodied man is almost always – over

able-bodied man is almost always – over my black friends tell me that a place

my black friends tell me that a place

my black friends tell me that a place feels racist when my women friends say

feels racist when my women friends say

feels racist when my women friends say it doesn’t feel safe to walk through the

it doesn’t feel safe to walk through the

it doesn’t feel safe to walk through the parking garage or their workplace feels

parking garage or their workplace feels

parking garage or their workplace feels like there’s a creeper working there I

like there’s a creeper working there I

like there’s a creeper working there I go like this I don’t smell that because

go like this I don’t smell that because

go like this I don’t smell that because it’s not my air and so my job is to

it’s not my air and so my job is to

it’s not my air and so my job is to smell the air when it stinks especially

smell the air when it stinks especially

smell the air when it stinks especially when it doesn’t stink for me white

when it doesn’t stink for me white

when it doesn’t stink for me white people I’m talking to you white male

people I’m talking to you white male

people I’m talking to you white male heterosexual temporarily able-bodied

heterosexual temporarily able-bodied

heterosexual temporarily able-bodied folks I’m talking to you smell dear when

folks I’m talking to you smell dear when

folks I’m talking to you smell dear when it stinks especially when it doesn’t

it stinks especially when it doesn’t

it stinks especially when it doesn’t sink for you so let’s bring this to a

sink for you so let’s bring this to a

sink for you so let’s bring this to a close here okay I’ve been to the some of

close here okay I’ve been to the some of

close here okay I’ve been to the some of the richest places on the planet and the

the richest places on the planet and the

the richest places on the planet and the poorest places on the planet we all want

poorest places on the planet we all want

poorest places on the planet we all want the same stuff we want a safe place to

the same stuff we want a safe place to

the same stuff we want a safe place to sleep at night we want water to drink

sleep at night we want water to drink

sleep at night we want water to drink that’s good for us we want clean air to

that’s good for us we want clean air to

that’s good for us we want clean air to breathe we want our other kids of the

breathe we want our other kids of the

breathe we want our other kids of the world to have a chance of the life we

world to have a chance of the life we

world to have a chance of the life we might want health care we might want an

might want health care we might want an

might want health care we might want an education and what we want to do is we

education and what we want to do is we

education and what we want to do is we want to connect so in the 60s when I had

want to connect so in the 60s when I had

want to connect so in the 60s when I had a Volkswagen Beetle we would ride by

a Volkswagen Beetle we would ride by

a Volkswagen Beetle we would ride by other Volkswagen Beetles and we would do

other Volkswagen Beetles and we would do

other Volkswagen Beetles and we would do this ask your parents young folks and it

this ask your parents young folks and it

this ask your parents young folks and it felt good I had a Harley Davidson for 25

felt good I had a Harley Davidson for 25

felt good I had a Harley Davidson for 25 years and I don’t know if I like driving

years and I don’t know if I like driving

years and I don’t know if I like driving the Harley as much as I like getting the

the Harley as much as I like getting the

the Harley as much as I like getting the wave from other Harley riders I go to

wave from other Harley riders I go to

wave from other Harley riders I go to football games and I’m a football fan

football games and I’m a football fan

football games and I’m a football fan and I see people raise their hands and

and I see people raise their hands and

and I see people raise their hands and everything all crap I don’t want to do

everything all crap I don’t want to do

everything all crap I don’t want to do the frequent wave and everybody starts

the frequent wave and everybody starts

the frequent wave and everybody starts doing the wave and then I start doing

doing the wave and then I start doing

doing the wave and then I start doing the wave and I look across the stadium I

the wave and I look across the stadium I

the wave and I look across the stadium I see that even the team I’m fighting

see that even the team I’m fighting

see that even the team I’m fighting against is doing the wave you see we

against is doing the wave you see we

against is doing the wave you see we want to connect the desire to connect is

want to connect the desire to connect is

want to connect the desire to connect is great something’s in the way of that so

great something’s in the way of that so

great something’s in the way of that so maybe if we smell the air when it stinks

maybe if we smell the air when it stinks

maybe if we smell the air when it stinks when it doesn’t speak stink for us maybe

when it doesn’t speak stink for us maybe

when it doesn’t speak stink for us maybe if we can come to grips with looking at

if we can come to grips with looking at

if we can come to grips with looking at what’s in our file maybe if we can start

what’s in our file maybe if we can start

what’s in our file maybe if we can start to look at the words we use and how

to look at the words we use and how

to look at the words we use and how powerful they are

maybe then maybe then the divide that

maybe then maybe then the divide that you see in the United States in the

you see in the United States in the

you see in the United States in the world right now maybe then we’ll

world right now maybe then we’ll

world right now maybe then we’ll actually find out that we can all come

actually find out that we can all come

actually find out that we can all come together and and fix this stuff that’s

together and and fix this stuff that’s

together and and fix this stuff that’s going on right now Thanks

going on right now Thanks

going on right now Thanks [Applause]

[Applause]

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