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WHAT MAKES FOR MEMORABLE GUEST EXPERIENCES? | James Keppel | TEDxEAEBusinessSchool


we talked about the creation of public

we talked about the creation of public places and experiences and and guest

places and experiences and and guest

places and experiences and and guest experience in general what we’re really

experience in general what we’re really

experience in general what we’re really talking about is a orchestration of many

talking about is a orchestration of many

talking about is a orchestration of many pieces that have to come together and is

pieces that have to come together and is

pieces that have to come together and is something that’s completely seamless and

something that’s completely seamless and

something that’s completely seamless and that orchestration is really the magic

that orchestration is really the magic

that orchestration is really the magic when one part falls apart the chain

when one part falls apart the chain

when one part falls apart the chain falls apart and where’s the clicker

falls apart and where’s the clicker

falls apart and where’s the clicker [Laughter]

minor technical difficulties talk

minor technical difficulties talk amongst ourselves Oh got it sorry about

amongst ourselves Oh got it sorry about

amongst ourselves Oh got it sorry about that

that

that so why two guest experiences matter they

so why two guest experiences matter they

so why two guest experiences matter they affect who we are who we were who we

affect who we are who we were who we

affect who we are who we were who we will be they affect our families our

will be they affect our families our

will be they affect our families our friendships our aspirations our

friendships our aspirations our

friendships our aspirations our inspirations and at the end of the day

inspirations and at the end of the day

inspirations and at the end of the day guest experiences are actually a

guest experiences are actually a

guest experiences are actually a business decision how do they affect our

business decision how do they affect our

business decision how do they affect our lives well when we think about who we

lives well when we think about who we

lives well when we think about who we were who he could be whether we know it

were who he could be whether we know it

were who he could be whether we know it or not the experiences that we’ve had or

or not the experiences that we’ve had or

or not the experiences that we’ve had or adding up in our head and we’re going

adding up in our head and we’re going

adding up in our head and we’re going back to them constantly when you have a

back to them constantly when you have a

back to them constantly when you have a bad experience you may or may not

bad experience you may or may not

bad experience you may or may not remember it you have a good experience

remember it you have a good experience

remember it you have a good experience the same but there’s an effect up here

the same but there’s an effect up here

the same but there’s an effect up here and in here

and in here

and in here that sort of never goes away so how do

that sort of never goes away so how do

that sort of never goes away so how do we humanize places and experiences this

we humanize places and experiences this

we humanize places and experiences this is one of my favorite topics flying here

is one of my favorite topics flying here

is one of my favorite topics flying here on a certain airline was a wonderful

on a certain airline was a wonderful

on a certain airline was a wonderful experience because they didn’t treat you

experience because they didn’t treat you

experience because they didn’t treat you like livestock in the United States

like livestock in the United States

like livestock in the United States domestic air travel is terrible it’s get

domestic air travel is terrible it’s get

domestic air travel is terrible it’s get them on get them off and hopefully they

them on get them off and hopefully they

them on get them off and hopefully they don’t ask for anything so guest

don’t ask for anything so guest

don’t ask for anything so guest experience design is a core element of

experience design is a core element of

experience design is a core element of the creation of public spaces it’s not a

the creation of public spaces it’s not a

the creation of public spaces it’s not a nice to have it’s not going to happen

nice to have it’s not going to happen

nice to have it’s not going to happen organically it’s something that you have

organically it’s something that you have

organically it’s something that you have to engineer how

to engineer how

to engineer how you have to make happen so this these

you have to make happen so this these

you have to make happen so this these concepts that we’re going to talk about

concepts that we’re going to talk about

concepts that we’re going to talk about apply to many different types of

apply to many different types of

apply to many different types of facilities sports and entertainment it’s

facilities sports and entertainment it’s

facilities sports and entertainment it’s kind of where I’ve done most of my work

kind of where I’ve done most of my work

kind of where I’ve done most of my work and it’s that’s real laboratory for how

and it’s that’s real laboratory for how

and it’s that’s real laboratory for how you take all those systems and

you take all those systems and

you take all those systems and subsystems and put them together and how

subsystems and put them together and how

subsystems and put them together and how do you deal with a lot of people but

do you deal with a lot of people but

do you deal with a lot of people but this applies to casinos this applies for

this applies to casinos this applies for

this applies to casinos this applies for retail streets and plazas this is a

retail streets and plazas this is a

retail streets and plazas this is a museum in San Francisco called the

museum in San Francisco called the

museum in San Francisco called the Exploratorium people love this place

Exploratorium people love this place

Exploratorium people love this place it’s a science and innovation museum

it’s a science and innovation museum

it’s a science and innovation museum mainly aimed at children it’s sort of a

mainly aimed at children it’s sort of a

mainly aimed at children it’s sort of a living museum where they build the

living museum where they build the

living museum where they build the exhibits some things come some things go

exhibits some things come some things go

exhibits some things come some things go a lot of stuff is built by artists but

a lot of stuff is built by artists but

a lot of stuff is built by artists but the reason that people love this place

the reason that people love this place

the reason that people love this place is that the experience of going there is

is that the experience of going there is

is that the experience of going there is really wonderful

really wonderful

really wonderful it’s a 900 foot long pure building on

it’s a 900 foot long pure building on

it’s a 900 foot long pure building on the Embarcadero

the Embarcadero

the Embarcadero San Francisco Bay it’s very easy to

San Francisco Bay it’s very easy to

San Francisco Bay it’s very easy to navigate there are imperfections of

navigate there are imperfections of

navigate there are imperfections of course but the one thing that I’ve

course but the one thing that I’ve

course but the one thing that I’ve always noticed about it is when it’s

always noticed about it is when it’s

always noticed about it is when it’s crowded

crowded

crowded it doesn’t feel crowded and that’s a

it doesn’t feel crowded and that’s a

it doesn’t feel crowded and that’s a really wonderful thing this applies to

really wonderful thing this applies to

really wonderful thing this applies to the things we’re going to talk to about

the things we’re going to talk to about

the things we’re going to talk to about apply to performance spaces airports

apply to performance spaces airports

apply to performance spaces airports parking structures hospitals corporate

parking structures hospitals corporate

parking structures hospitals corporate environments so literally everything so

environments so literally everything so

environments so literally everything so what I’m going to show you today you

what I’m going to show you today you

what I’m going to show you today you could put on any kind of project and if

could put on any kind of project and if

could put on any kind of project and if anybody can find one that they can’t do

anybody can find one that they can’t do

anybody can find one that they can’t do it

it

it call me so the challenge especially in

call me so the challenge especially in

call me so the challenge especially in sports and entertainment is how do you

sports and entertainment is how do you

sports and entertainment is how do you take these concepts and apply them to a

take these concepts and apply them to a

take these concepts and apply them to a place that has you know 10,000 people

place that has you know 10,000 people

place that has you know 10,000 people 12,000 people 60,000 people a hundred

12,000 people 60,000 people a hundred

12,000 people 60,000 people a hundred thousand people or how do you do it in a

thousand people or how do you do it in a

thousand people or how do you do it in a smaller environment where there are 10

smaller environment where there are 10

smaller environment where there are 10 people or a hundred people again it all

people or a hundred people again it all

people or a hundred people again it all works the same the execution is

works the same the execution is

works the same the execution is different but the thinking is the same

different but the thinking is the same

different but the thinking is the same what I’m gonna talk about today is not a

what I’m gonna talk about today is not a

what I’m gonna talk about today is not a how-to this isn’t a handbook this is a

how-to this isn’t a handbook this is a

how-to this isn’t a handbook this is a mindset this is how you how you can

mindset this is how you how you can

mindset this is how you how you can think about things and everybody’s gonna

think about things and everybody’s gonna

think about things and everybody’s gonna come up with their own way to apply it

come up with their own way to apply it

come up with their own way to apply it but and I encourage that but this

but and I encourage that but this

but and I encourage that but this framework to work for him so the guest

framework to work for him so the guest

framework to work for him so the guest experience cycle this is this a way to

experience cycle this is this a way to

experience cycle this is this a way to look at when somebody comes into a place

look at when somebody comes into a place

look at when somebody comes into a place what it what happens ok first B first

what it what happens ok first B first

what it what happens ok first B first off they become aware of a place and of

off they become aware of a place and of

off they become aware of a place and of course we’ve got a million channels now

course we’ve got a million channels now

course we’ve got a million channels now to become aware of the place or the

to become aware of the place or the

to become aware of the place or the experience or the whatever you’re going

experience or the whatever you’re going

experience or the whatever you’re going for and then there’s the entry sitting

for and then there’s the entry sitting

for and then there’s the entry sitting in a line for an hour waiting for train

in a line for an hour waiting for train

in a line for an hour waiting for train this morning there was an accident

this morning there was an accident

this morning there was an accident so I’ll give him that that credit but

so I’ll give him that that credit but

so I’ll give him that that credit but the entry into that experience was

the entry into that experience was

the entry into that experience was terrible because there was absolutely

terrible because there was absolutely

terrible because there was absolutely nothing to do except standing in the

nothing to do except standing in the

nothing to do except standing in the line those days need to be over number

line those days need to be over number

line those days need to be over number one there shouldn’t be a line and number

one there shouldn’t be a line and number

one there shouldn’t be a line and number two if there is there needs to be

two if there is there needs to be

two if there is there needs to be something to do to kind of take your

something to do to kind of take your

something to do to kind of take your mind off the fact that you are standing

mind off the fact that you are standing

mind off the fact that you are standing in line for an hour waiting and then

in line for an hour waiting and then

in line for an hour waiting and then here’s where the rubber hits the road

here’s where the rubber hits the road

here’s where the rubber hits the road you’re in the experience you’re in the

you’re in the experience you’re in the

you’re in the experience you’re in the place and the place has to engage you it

place and the place has to engage you it

place and the place has to engage you it has to be dynamic it has to talk to you

has to be dynamic it has to talk to you

has to be dynamic it has to talk to you and you have to talk to it the exit is

and you have to talk to it the exit is

and you have to talk to it the exit is another place where things tend to fall

another place where things tend to fall

another place where things tend to fall apart especially in sports facilities

apart especially in sports facilities

apart especially in sports facilities they open the doors and tell everybody

they open the doors and tell everybody

they open the doors and tell everybody you get out there’s nothing to to say

you get out there’s nothing to to say

you get out there’s nothing to to say that we appreciate that you’ve been here

that we appreciate that you’ve been here

that we appreciate that you’ve been here there’s nothing to say that here’s

there’s nothing to say that here’s

there’s nothing to say that here’s something to do while you’re on your way

something to do while you’re on your way

something to do while you’re on your way out and then you create advocates so

out and then you create advocates so

out and then you create advocates so these are the people who’ve gone through

these are the people who’ve gone through

these are the people who’ve gone through that experience and now hopefully you’ve

that experience and now hopefully you’ve

that experience and now hopefully you’ve really delighted them and they want to

really delighted them and they want to

really delighted them and they want to go out and tell everybody what happens

go out and tell everybody what happens

go out and tell everybody what happens and this line is where the cycle happens

and this line is where the cycle happens

and this line is where the cycle happens because how they’ve told people and

because how they’ve told people and

because how they’ve told people and those people are going to come and do

those people are going to come and do

those people are going to come and do the same thing now if you’ve created a

the same thing now if you’ve created a

the same thing now if you’ve created a bad experience then they’re probably

bad experience then they’re probably

bad experience then they’re probably going to tell more people than if you

going to tell more people than if you

going to tell more people than if you created a good one so I’m gonna give you

created a good one so I’m gonna give you

created a good one so I’m gonna give you six essential elements that you can

six essential elements that you can

six essential elements that you can apply to to how you think about the

apply to to how you think about the

apply to to how you think about the design and I should say this could apply

design and I should say this could apply

design and I should say this could apply to software I mean this is not not just

to software I mean this is not not just

to software I mean this is not not just physical spaces I happen to live in the

physical spaces I happen to live in the

physical spaces I happen to live in the architecture built environment world but

architecture built environment world but

architecture built environment world but this applies many other ways

this applies many other ways

this applies many other ways number one physical am i comfortable

number one physical am i comfortable

number one physical am i comfortable here so if you go to a sports arena for

here so if you go to a sports arena for

here so if you go to a sports arena for example are the seats wide enough is

example are the seats wide enough is

example are the seats wide enough is there enough room to move in the

there enough room to move in the

there enough room to move in the corridor when you’ve got 17,000 people

corridor when you’ve got 17,000 people

corridor when you’ve got 17,000 people you know what’s my general level of

you know what’s my general level of

you know what’s my general level of comfort being in there this is not the

comfort being in there this is not the

comfort being in there this is not the fun stuff but it is very important the

fun stuff but it is very important the

fun stuff but it is very important the functional side how do I park how do I

functional side how do I park how do I

functional side how do I park how do I get my tickets how do I get in

get my tickets how do I get in

get my tickets how do I get in are there enough restrooms how do I get

are there enough restrooms how do I get

are there enough restrooms how do I get my food and there are a million systems

my food and there are a million systems

my food and there are a million systems out there right now to try and address

out there right now to try and address

out there right now to try and address that none of them are perfect but people

that none of them are perfect but people

that none of them are perfect but people are trying sensory this is really an

are trying sensory this is really an

are trying sensory this is really an interesting I think part of the

interesting I think part of the

interesting I think part of the experience does the place engage all of

experience does the place engage all of

experience does the place engage all of my senses so touch I could be in there

my senses so touch I could be in there

my senses so touch I could be in there and there’s an interactive sort of

and there’s an interactive sort of

and there’s an interactive sort of environment that I’m involved in smell

environment that I’m involved in smell

environment that I’m involved in smell think about you go to a park or a plaza

think about you go to a park or a plaza

think about you go to a park or a plaza and you smell flowers instead of the

and you smell flowers instead of the

and you smell flowers instead of the other things that you might smell in a

other things that you might smell in a

other things that you might smell in a park or plus in the city sound is one

park or plus in the city sound is one

park or plus in the city sound is one that is very very important and you’re

that is very very important and you’re

that is very very important and you’re going to hear more later about that you

going to hear more later about that you

going to hear more later about that you know the the perception that you know

know the the perception that you know

know the the perception that you know sound can be overwhelming sound can be

sound can be overwhelming sound can be

sound can be overwhelming sound can be underwhelming sound can be effective and

underwhelming sound can be effective and

underwhelming sound can be effective and sound could be nothing so sound is a way

sound could be nothing so sound is a way

sound could be nothing so sound is a way to engage people in the event in the

to engage people in the event in the

to engage people in the event in the experience in the place in a way that a

experience in the place in a way that a

experience in the place in a way that a lot of people don’t think about and then

we move on we sort of cross a line right

we move on we sort of cross a line right here so that’s all the stuff that you

here so that’s all the stuff that you

here so that’s all the stuff that you sort of have to do now we get to the

sort of have to do now we get to the

sort of have to do now we get to the stuff that you really should do how do

stuff that you really should do how do

stuff that you really should do how do you make the place memorable and we’re

you make the place memorable and we’re

you make the place memorable and we’re leading up to the end of the book here

leading up to the end of the book here

leading up to the end of the book here the memory is the engagement how did I

the memory is the engagement how did I

the memory is the engagement how did I interact with the place and I always

interact with the place and I always

interact with the place and I always tell all my clients you have to create a

tell all my clients you have to create a

tell all my clients you have to create a photo opportunity now luckily here there

photo opportunity now luckily here there

photo opportunity now luckily here there are photo opportunities everywhere we

are photo opportunities everywhere we

are photo opportunities everywhere we have to manufacture them and I showed

have to manufacture them and I showed

have to manufacture them and I showed you this photo earlier people loved the

you this photo earlier people loved the

you this photo earlier people loved the Exploratorium they’ve got these

Exploratorium they’ve got these

Exploratorium they’ve got these exteriors

exteriors

exteriors and there’s signs at the entry the logo

and there’s signs at the entry the logo

and there’s signs at the entry the logo kind of led to this idea of cutting a

kind of led to this idea of cutting a

kind of led to this idea of cutting a hole in it and that’s great that’s the

hole in it and that’s great that’s the

hole in it and that’s great that’s the picture everybody wants everybody wants

picture everybody wants everybody wants

picture everybody wants everybody wants except the facilities guys who have to

except the facilities guys who have to

except the facilities guys who have to keep fixing this because people are

keep fixing this because people are

keep fixing this because people are doing this this is my daughter and this

doing this this is my daughter and this

doing this this is my daughter and this is the first time that we visited and

is the first time that we visited and

is the first time that we visited and both both my daughter’s got this picture

both both my daughter’s got this picture

both both my daughter’s got this picture taken but if you go on any image search

taken but if you go on any image search

taken but if you go on any image search you will find thousands and thousands

you will find thousands and thousands

you will find thousands and thousands and thousands of pictures of people

and thousands of pictures of people

and thousands of pictures of people stick in their face and that getting

stick in their face and that getting

stick in their face and that getting their photo taken it costs nothing to do

their photo taken it costs nothing to do

their photo taken it costs nothing to do that the folks at the Museum wanted to

that the folks at the Museum wanted to

that the folks at the Museum wanted to put you know something around it so

put you know something around it so

put you know something around it so people couldn’t get at it I said no you

people couldn’t get at it I said no you

people couldn’t get at it I said no you just have to get used to fixing it

just have to get used to fixing it

just have to get used to fixing it that’s the way it is I was standing

that’s the way it is I was standing

that’s the way it is I was standing there one day and a skateboarder was

there one day and a skateboarder was

there one day and a skateboarder was shooting through there and he did it

shooting through there and he did it

shooting through there and he did it over and over again but he could pull it

over and over again but he could pull it

over and over again but he could pull it off so now we’ve crossed kind of another

off so now we’ve crossed kind of another

off so now we’ve crossed kind of another line into the intellectual how does this

line into the intellectual how does this

line into the intellectual how does this place make me feel everybody is creating

place make me feel everybody is creating

place make me feel everybody is creating a list in their head whether they know

a list in their head whether they know

a list in their head whether they know it or not about the feelings that they

it or not about the feelings that they

it or not about the feelings that they have toward whatever the experience is

have toward whatever the experience is

have toward whatever the experience is and at some point they might come back

and at some point they might come back

and at some point they might come back and analyze it at another point they may

and analyze it at another point they may

and analyze it at another point they may never analyze it but it’s always there

never analyze it but it’s always there

never analyze it but it’s always there there’s a there’s an intellectual

there’s a there’s an intellectual

there’s a there’s an intellectual reaction to all the experiences that we

reaction to all the experiences that we

reaction to all the experiences that we have that then gets us to the magic that

have that then gets us to the magic that

have that then gets us to the magic that we’re looking for which is the emotional

we’re looking for which is the emotional

we’re looking for which is the emotional connection why do I love this place and

connection why do I love this place and

connection why do I love this place and I’ll give you a quick example with my

I’ll give you a quick example with my

I’ll give you a quick example with my family there’s a retail center that we

family there’s a retail center that we

family there’s a retail center that we had been going to for 20 years I have

had been going to for 20 years I have

had been going to for 20 years I have identical twin 17 year old daughters now

identical twin 17 year old daughters now

identical twin 17 year old daughters now and when they were born two things had

and when they were born two things had

and when they were born two things had to happen I had to get my wife the hell

to happen I had to get my wife the hell

to happen I had to get my wife the hell out of the house because he was going

out of the house because he was going

out of the house because he was going crazy and when you need a place to go to

crazy and when you need a place to go to

crazy and when you need a place to go to just hang out now this is a retail

just hang out now this is a retail

just hang out now this is a retail shopping center it’s since been

shopping center it’s since been

shopping center it’s since been renovated it’s better than ever but we

renovated it’s better than ever but we

renovated it’s better than ever but we went there not necessarily to shop but

went there not necessarily to shop but

went there not necessarily to shop but we did we went there not necessarily

we did we went there not necessarily

we did we went there not necessarily have a meal but we did we just went

have a meal but we did we just went

have a meal but we did we just went there to hang out and there was this

there to hang out and there was this

there to hang out and there was this fountain and you know we just would go

fountain and you know we just would go

fountain and you know we just would go and you walk around with a double-wide

and you walk around with a double-wide

and you walk around with a double-wide stroller and everybody’s cursing cursing

stroller and everybody’s cursing cursing

stroller and everybody’s cursing cursing at you because you’re getting in their

at you because you’re getting in their

at you because you’re getting in their way but that that’s the magic of it when

way but that that’s the magic of it when

way but that that’s the magic of it when you create places that people love they

you create places that people love they

you create places that people love they will return and I said earlier that

will return and I said earlier that

will return and I said earlier that design and this you know guest

design and this you know guest

design and this you know guest experience cyant is a business decision

experience cyant is a business decision

experience cyant is a business decision that’s because you need people to return

that’s because you need people to return

that’s because you need people to return to sustain the business right so the

to sustain the business right so the

to sustain the business right so the theme of the day here is owning your

theme of the day here is owning your

theme of the day here is owning your future I’d suggest that we not only on

future I’d suggest that we not only on

future I’d suggest that we not only on our future but we own everybody’s future

our future but we own everybody’s future

our future but we own everybody’s future and in the creation of public space

and in the creation of public space

and in the creation of public space great public spaces great experiences

great public spaces great experiences

great public spaces great experiences great places to go we’re sort of giving

great places to go we’re sort of giving

great places to go we’re sort of giving the world something that it doesn’t

the world something that it doesn’t

the world something that it doesn’t necessarily have on an everyday basis

necessarily have on an everyday basis

necessarily have on an everyday basis thank you

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